People on skateboards.

You think your smart, lol.

You think your smart, lol.

I'm known as a genius.

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Quote from: Empirical on January 12, 2016, 06:52:31 AM

No because electrons are very small.

So how do you know that what you're saying is true?

Use a battery.

Now, what evidence can you provide to show us you are correct.

How does a battery work ? Let me see what you got without looking it up and then I'll tell you how a battery really works. It's simple and fascinating to think what really happens.

An electron flow from cathode to anode.

You're going to have to explain it in your own words. You're explaining nothing here. Show me an electron and then explain how and what the power is that comes from the positive to the appliance, let's say a bulb and then back to the negative.
Tell me what's happening .

If you want to pay me I can teach you chemistry.  Until then, we are still waiting for your evidence.

I can make my own fruit juice drinks by adding water. I could easily transfer pills to a bottle. I don't need your help. I'm sure you're a good help to your pharmacist  but you're never going to be able to help me. You're just not in my league. I deal in the simplicity of the science world, instead of filling blackboards up with meaningless crap.

One day when you're old enough to graduate from making coffee for your pharmacist and are allowed to decipher prescription notes, then show the ability to actually understand things; then I'll take you a bit more serious and may take a chance on helping you out on the very basics of life to start with. Ease you in a little.

That's about the best I can offer you. Take it or leave it but be nice about it.

When did I turn into a pharmacist assistant? I'm a bench chemist for a mining research company.
I use chemistry every day. None of it would work if what you said was true.

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Quote from: Empirical on January 12, 2016, 06:52:31 AM

No because electrons are very small.

So how do you know that what you're saying is true?

Use a battery.

Now, what evidence can you provide to show us you are correct.

How does a battery work ? Let me see what you got without looking it up and then I'll tell you how a battery really works. It's simple and fascinating to think what really happens.

An electron flow from cathode to anode.

You're going to have to explain it in your own words. You're explaining nothing here. Show me an electron and then explain how and what the power is that comes from the positive to the appliance, let's say a bulb and then back to the negative.
Tell me what's happening .

If you want to pay me I can teach you chemistry.  Until then, we are still waiting for your evidence.

I can make my own fruit juice drinks by adding water. I could easily transfer pills to a bottle. I don't need your help. I'm sure you're a good help to your pharmacist  but you're never going to be able to help me. You're just not in my league. I deal in the simplicity of the science world, instead of filling blackboards up with meaningless crap.

One day when you're old enough to graduate from making coffee for your pharmacist and are allowed to decipher prescription notes, then show the ability to actually understand things; then I'll take you a bit more serious and may take a chance on helping you out on the very basics of life to start with. Ease you in a little.

That's about the best I can offer you. Take it or leave it but be nice about it.

When did I turn into a pharmacist assistant? I'm a bench chemist for a mining research company.
I use chemistry every day. None of it would work if what you said was true.

I'm sure they'll bring you on at some stage if you keep up the training and doing as your told.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Here we go again with the personal insults...

He doesn't have anything else.

expansion and compression of matter.

just to be clear, do u think that molecules and atoms themselves expand and compress?

Delusion at it's greatest.

Then...

And btw, you are completely wrong about EVERYTHING.

Then...

You think your smart, lol.

Then...

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Free Expansion of gas in a vacuum is a scientific Fact.

No it's not.

LOL!!!

You are slapstick gold.

And you are also sokarul.

What's the penalty for sock-puppeting again?

How do you clown derfers get away with this shit?

Toodle-pip, multiple-personality-disorder multiple-Losers!

Oh, & Hypnopoodle too!

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 12, 2016, 08:29:51 AM

expansion and compression of matter.

just to be clear, do u think that molecules and atoms themselves expand and compress?

Absolutely.

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Quote from: sceptimatic on January 12, 2016, 08:29:51 AM

expansion and compression of matter.

just to be clear, do u think that molecules and atoms themselves expand and compress?

Absolutely.

aboslutely yes?

He thinks something measured in the nanometer range can expand to meters.

He thinks something measured in the nanometer range can expand to meters.

No, that's your own thought process. You decide to make up my answers because I generally bypass a lot of your child like shenanigans, like the old, " I'm  undefeated global kid" and such like.

so explain expanding atoms... is the core that expands or the orbits of the electrons? how much it would expand?

A particle expanding would make it take in energy, not release it. Unless atoms aren't made of protons and neutrons, and if they aren't, explain the results of the Rutherford gold foil experiment.

so explain expanding atoms... is the core that expands or the orbits of the electrons? how much it would expand?

We need to do this slowly. Let's see if you have any rational thought and logic.
This is one super dense molecule of matter. We will use this word, molecule for the sake of clarity as we go on.

See if you can guess where I'm going with this.

This gobstopper represents a super dense underground molecule of matter.

first of all which are the limits?
how far can a molecule be compressed or expanded?

no matter what molecule are we talking about they are all spherical?

Except atoms are mainly empty space. Look up Rutherford gold foil experiment
And how are the positive and negative charges distributed in your model of the atom.

first of all which are the limits?
how far can a molecule be compressed or expanded?

no matter what molecule are we talking about they are all spherical?

In their natural state they would be but they're never in their natural state. Think washing up bubbles.

Except atoms are mainly empty space. Look up Rutherford gold foil experiment
And how are the positive and negative charges distributed in your model of the atom.

Positive and negative are simply expansion and contraction in many different states of density.

Quote from: Empirical on January 12, 2016, 10:28:58 AM

Except atoms are mainly empty space. Look up Rutherford gold foil experiment
And how are the positive and negative charges distributed in your model of the atom.

Positive and negative are simply expansion and contraction in many different states of density.

Oh my fucking life this is going strait on youtube! I haven't laughed so damn hard in ages.  Friction is Everything man 

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Quote from: Empirical on January 12, 2016, 10:28:58 AM

Except atoms are mainly empty space. Look up Rutherford gold foil experiment
And how are the positive and negative charges distributed in your model of the atom.

Positive and negative are simply expansion and contraction in many different states of density.

Oh my fucking life this is going strait on youtube! I haven't laughed so damn hard in ages.  Friction is Everything man 

When you wake up to the realisation of things,, you might just get to grips with why everything is friction. No friction and you get nothing. We become nothing. Earth becomes nothing. We cease to exist as energy in any form.
Grasp this and you might start to grasp a lot more. Especially things like, rocket's  not working in your supposed space.

ok, but how far can they expand and compress?

Quote from: Empirical on January 12, 2016, 10:28:58 AM

Except atoms are mainly empty space. Look up Rutherford gold foil experiment
And how are the positive and negative charges distributed in your model of the atom.

Positive and negative are simply expansion and contraction in many different states of density.

I'm talking about the electric charges. I'm guess you didn't research the experiment I mentioned. Heard of alpha particles. You can easily show they have a positive charge by moving them through an magnetic field, their interactions with atoms show they also have positive charges within them, and the net charge of an atom is neutral.
Where are the positive and negative charges of an atom located in your model.

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Quote from: Empirical on January 12, 2016, 10:28:58 AM

Except atoms are mainly empty space. Look up Rutherford gold foil experiment
And how are the positive and negative charges distributed in your model of the atom.

Positive and negative are simply expansion and contraction in many different states of density.

Oh my fucking life this is going strait on youtube! I haven't laughed so damn hard in ages.  Friction is Everything man 

When you wake up to the realisation of things,, you might just get to grips with why everything is friction. No friction and you get nothing. We become nothing. Earth becomes nothing. We cease to exist as energy in any form.
Grasp this and you might start to grasp a lot more. Especially things like, rocket's  not working in your supposed space.

Any evidence yet?

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Free Expansion of gas in a vacuum is a scientific Fact.

No it's not.

This deserves framing; the moment the clown derfers went full shpayze-retard.

As does this.

For different reasons.

The combustion chamber of a rocket is open to the near-infinite vacuum of space.

Therefore, no gas can even be meaningfully said to exist within it, let alone combust.

Any gas introduced therein when the pressurised fuel tank leading to the combustion chamber is opened will simply expand freely into the enormous, zero-pressure vacuum, following the path of least resistance & doing no work whatsoever.

This will continue for as long as the fuel tank & chamber are open to the vacuum, until both exterior & interior pressures are equalised at zero.

It is a beautifully simple concept, fully supported by All the laws of physics, yet you 'round earthers' (lol!) just can't seem to grasp it...


Plus this:

You all claim that the recoil of a gun is a valid analogy for how a rocket works in a vacuum.

Here is why it is not:

With a gun you have object A, the mass of the gun; the expanding propellant, P, the gunpowder, sited between them; and object B, the mass of the bullet.

But with a rocket you ONLY have object A, the mass of the rocket,  & the expanding propellant, P, the fuel.

No object B, see?

Thus, you have removed the necessary recoil mass required to produce motion.

But we know a rocket DOES produce motion, don't we?

Ergo, some other mass MUST be taking the place of object B.

& the ONLY possibility for that other mass is the Atmosphere.

Ergo, NO atmosphere, NO motion; rockets CANNOT function in a vacuum.

Q.E.D.

No matter how hard you try to spin it, cultists, every child knows that You cannot Push on Nothing.

No maths required; only common sense.


Then there's the fact that you are all trying desperately to confine this 'debate' to the wrong branch of physics, i.e. Solid Mechanics rather than Fluid Mechanics...

Kinda dishonest of you, dontcha think?

Pressure-Gradient Forces, Gas Laws, Fluid Mechanics, Continuum Assumption & Joules Expansion are the areas I suggest neutral readers research.

Here's a combustion chamber to laugh at too:



Ooh - vacuum-proof!

And another.

I know it's pointless, FEers don't understand big words.

Also, your still completely wrong.

Also, your still completely wrong.

And you can't spell 'you're'.

Just like sokarul can't...

What a coincidence!

One word wrong compare to a whole post, I'm still doing better than you.

Quote from: Empirical on January 12, 2016, 11:45:46 AM

Also, your still completely wrong.

And you can't spell 'you're'.

Just like sokarul can't...

What a coincidence!

It's a grammar error, not a spelling error. Like when you capitalize random words. Nice try though.