Quote from: General Patton on February 22, 2015, 08:52:29 AMSorry guys, most of the replies were made when I was asleep.So jroa, what do you think about what I said towards the end of my post? How can it be day in one place, but night in another?Light can not travel infinitely through air.
Sorry guys, most of the replies were made when I was asleep.So jroa, what do you think about what I said towards the end of my post? How can it be day in one place, but night in another?
I am pompous, self-righteous, thin skinned, and smug.
It doesn't have to be convincing.
Do I need to post pictures of mountains again to show that light diffuses with distance through air?
Quote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:31:28 PMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:27:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:23:07 PMSo how fast does light go from visible to not visible because of the air? That would depend on the conditions of the air, would it not? So you are saying conditions in the air can vary so wildly as to make you unable to give an answer to how quickly a star would go from visible and not visible?Yes. Some days, there is a lot of pollen or dust in the air. Some days, there are profound temperature differences. Some days, there is very little moisture in the air. Is all of this new to you?
Quote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:27:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:23:07 PMSo how fast does light go from visible to not visible because of the air? That would depend on the conditions of the air, would it not? So you are saying conditions in the air can vary so wildly as to make you unable to give an answer to how quickly a star would go from visible and not visible?
Quote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:23:07 PMSo how fast does light go from visible to not visible because of the air? That would depend on the conditions of the air, would it not?
So how fast does light go from visible to not visible because of the air?
Fading does not mean something is turning black, markjo.
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.
Quote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:34:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:31:28 PMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:27:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:23:07 PMSo how fast does light go from visible to not visible because of the air? That would depend on the conditions of the air, would it not? So you are saying conditions in the air can vary so wildly as to make you unable to give an answer to how quickly a star would go from visible and not visible?Yes. Some days, there is a lot of pollen or dust in the air. Some days, there are profound temperature differences. Some days, there is very little moisture in the air. Is all of this new to you? If the Sun was not visable at night because of distance then why is it always the exact same aperent size and why does it apear to go behind the horizon? Also, FET suggests that the Sun would rise in the north-east and set in the north-west. Just think about where the Sun would be during those times.
Atmoplanic lensing.
Quote from: jroa on February 22, 2015, 11:53:04 AMAtmoplanic lensing. Since when are lenses flat?
Quote from: mikeman7918 on February 22, 2015, 10:41:04 AMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:34:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:31:28 PMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:27:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:23:07 PMSo how fast does light go from visible to not visible because of the air? That would depend on the conditions of the air, would it not? So you are saying conditions in the air can vary so wildly as to make you unable to give an answer to how quickly a star would go from visible and not visible?Yes. Some days, there is a lot of pollen or dust in the air. Some days, there are profound temperature differences. Some days, there is very little moisture in the air. Is all of this new to you? If the Sun was not visable at night because of distance then why is it always the exact same aperent size and why does it apear to go behind the horizon? Also, FET suggests that the Sun would rise in the north-east and set in the north-west. Just think about where the Sun would be during those times.Atmoplanic lensing. And, what makes you claim that the sun should rise and set in the north east and west in FET? I don't understand how you came up with that.
It's no slur if it's fact.
Quote from: jroa on February 22, 2015, 11:53:04 AMQuote from: mikeman7918 on February 22, 2015, 10:41:04 AMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:34:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:31:28 PMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:27:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:23:07 PMSo how fast does light go from visible to not visible because of the air? That would depend on the conditions of the air, would it not? So you are saying conditions in the air can vary so wildly as to make you unable to give an answer to how quickly a star would go from visible and not visible?Yes. Some days, there is a lot of pollen or dust in the air. Some days, there are profound temperature differences. Some days, there is very little moisture in the air. Is all of this new to you? If the Sun was not visable at night because of distance then why is it always the exact same aperent size and why does it apear to go behind the horizon? Also, FET suggests that the Sun would rise in the north-east and set in the north-west. Just think about where the Sun would be during those times.Atmoplanic lensing. And, what makes you claim that the sun should rise and set in the north east and west in FET? I don't understand how you came up with that. Why does it only effect the sun and noon? Why has no one ever noticed it but people on this website?
Quote from: sokarul on February 22, 2015, 12:16:42 PMQuote from: jroa on February 22, 2015, 11:53:04 AMQuote from: mikeman7918 on February 22, 2015, 10:41:04 AMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:34:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:31:28 PMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:27:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:23:07 PMSo how fast does light go from visible to not visible because of the air? That would depend on the conditions of the air, would it not? So you are saying conditions in the air can vary so wildly as to make you unable to give an answer to how quickly a star would go from visible and not visible?Yes. Some days, there is a lot of pollen or dust in the air. Some days, there are profound temperature differences. Some days, there is very little moisture in the air. Is all of this new to you? If the Sun was not visable at night because of distance then why is it always the exact same aperent size and why does it apear to go behind the horizon? Also, FET suggests that the Sun would rise in the north-east and set in the north-west. Just think about where the Sun would be during those times.Atmoplanic lensing. And, what makes you claim that the sun should rise and set in the north east and west in FET? I don't understand how you came up with that. Why does it only effect the sun and noon? Why has no one ever noticed it but people on this website? Why do some trees lose their leaves every fall, while others stay green all year round? They just do.
[USA TODAY and NPR] are probaley just a bunch of flippin wite sapremist websites you RASCIST
i don't understand what you are saying=therfore you are liar
Quote from: jroa on February 22, 2015, 12:22:37 PMQuote from: sokarul on February 22, 2015, 12:16:42 PMQuote from: jroa on February 22, 2015, 11:53:04 AMQuote from: mikeman7918 on February 22, 2015, 10:41:04 AMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:34:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:31:28 PMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:27:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:23:07 PMSo how fast does light go from visible to not visible because of the air? That would depend on the conditions of the air, would it not? So you are saying conditions in the air can vary so wildly as to make you unable to give an answer to how quickly a star would go from visible and not visible?Yes. Some days, there is a lot of pollen or dust in the air. Some days, there are profound temperature differences. Some days, there is very little moisture in the air. Is all of this new to you? If the Sun was not visable at night because of distance then why is it always the exact same aperent size and why does it apear to go behind the horizon? Also, FET suggests that the Sun would rise in the north-east and set in the north-west. Just think about where the Sun would be during those times.Atmoplanic lensing. And, what makes you claim that the sun should rise and set in the north east and west in FET? I don't understand how you came up with that. Why does it only effect the sun and noon? Why has no one ever noticed it but people on this website? Why do some trees lose their leaves every fall, while others stay green all year round? They just do. You're making arbitrary comparisons again Jroa. Deciduous/Non-deciduous trees are well understood.
If they are so well understood, then surely, one of your great scientists has reproduced this in a lab. Or, are you just making stuff up again?
We all know deep in our hearts that Jane is the last face we'll see before we're choked to death!
Quote from: markjo on February 22, 2015, 11:54:30 AMQuote from: jroa on February 22, 2015, 11:53:04 AMAtmoplanic lensing. Since when are lenses flat?
Jroa, do you seriously think that we don't understand how trees work? Here are several links explaining the process. They have some big boy words, but I think you can figure it out.http://www.wisegeek.org/why-do-some-trees-lose-their-leaves.htmhttp://earthsky.org/earth/why-do-trees-shed-their-leaveshttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114288700
Quote from: kman on February 22, 2015, 12:37:07 PMJroa, do you seriously think that we don't understand how trees work? Here are several links explaining the process. They have some big boy words, but I think you can figure it out.http://www.wisegeek.org/why-do-some-trees-lose-their-leaves.htmhttp://earthsky.org/earth/why-do-trees-shed-their-leaveshttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114288700When was this Empirically proven?
Why are the distant mountains in this picture disappearing? I'll give you a hint; it is not because the Earth is round.
Quote from: jroa on February 22, 2015, 11:53:04 AMQuote from: mikeman7918 on February 22, 2015, 10:41:04 AMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:34:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:31:28 PMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:27:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:23:07 PMSo how fast does light go from visible to not visible because of the air? That would depend on the conditions of the air, would it not? So you are saying conditions in the air can vary so wildly as to make you unable to give an answer to how quickly a star would go from visible and not visible?Yes. Some days, there is a lot of pollen or dust in the air. Some days, there are profound temperature differences. Some days, there is very little moisture in the air. Is all of this new to you? If the Sun was not visable at night because of distance then why is it always the exact same aperent size and why does it apear to go behind the horizon? Also, FET suggests that the Sun would rise in the north-east and set in the north-west. Just think about where the Sun would be during those times.Atmoplanic lensing. And, what makes you claim that the sun should rise and set in the north east and west in FET? I don't understand how you came up with that. If 'atmoplanic lensing' is responsible for the Sun's angular size remaining the same between the zenith of it's arc and low on the horizon, how come the Moon's angular diameter gets smaller?
I have 13 [academic qualifications] actually. I'll leave it up to you to guess which, or simply call me a liar. Either is fine.
Quote from: dephelis on February 22, 2015, 05:00:03 PMQuote from: jroa on February 22, 2015, 11:53:04 AMQuote from: mikeman7918 on February 22, 2015, 10:41:04 AMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:34:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:31:28 PMQuote from: jroa on February 21, 2015, 09:27:42 PMQuote from: Lemmiwinks on February 21, 2015, 09:23:07 PMSo how fast does light go from visible to not visible because of the air? That would depend on the conditions of the air, would it not? So you are saying conditions in the air can vary so wildly as to make you unable to give an answer to how quickly a star would go from visible and not visible?Yes. Some days, there is a lot of pollen or dust in the air. Some days, there are profound temperature differences. Some days, there is very little moisture in the air. Is all of this new to you? If the Sun was not visable at night because of distance then why is it always the exact same aperent size and why does it apear to go behind the horizon? Also, FET suggests that the Sun would rise in the north-east and set in the north-west. Just think about where the Sun would be during those times.Atmoplanic lensing. And, what makes you claim that the sun should rise and set in the north east and west in FET? I don't understand how you came up with that. If 'atmoplanic lensing' is responsible for the Sun's angular size remaining the same between the zenith of it's arc and low on the horizon, how come the Moon's angular diameter gets smaller?Why does one thing have to equal something else? What is with this obsetion that some of you people have about everything having to equal everything else?
Neil, you are really doing a good job at getting yourself on the ban list. Is there a goal you are aiming for, like getting banned within 2 days or something? Let me know what your goal is and I will try to help you achive it.
Just because I'm a genius doesn't mean I know everything.