So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed

Oh, I'm 100% sure no man has been to the moon. I can say 100% that the Earth is flat...

If that's truly the case, then you're more of a fool than I'd first imagined.  End of story.

He's all mouth, no trousers.

And that's being generous of spirit LOL.

What I do know is, they did not go to the moon and I'm 100% sure of that - nor will anyone ever go there, because it's a fantasy place. A visual effect turned into something solid and real to those that are gullible enough to buy into it, which was about 99% of us at one time, including myself.

Time and the ability to think critically can change all of that.

 

Buzz and Armstrong were a great 5 ***** show!
Taught me to think critically.

Quote from: sceptimatic on October 03, 2014, 07:08:24 AM

What I do know is, they did not go to the moon and I'm 100% sure of that - nor will anyone ever go there, because it's a fantasy place. A visual effect turned into something solid and real to those that are gullible enough to buy into it, which was about 99% of us at one time, including myself.

Time and the ability to think critically can change all of that.

 

Buzz and Armstrong were a great 5 ***** show!
Taught me to think critically.

Eh, too factual for my tastes. 

EDIT: Problems with quoting

I just got back after a few days in the forest and I upon reading this thread, I can honestly say this is the dumbest fucking thing scepti has ever tried. 

If he is a genius, the only thing left for me is to await Morpheus waking me from my machine induced slumber.

Buzz and Armstrong were a great 5 ***** show!
Taught me to think critically.

In that case they did a truly crappy job LOL.  Although, I'm getting the distinct impression that you're secretly envious of Aldrin's and Armstrong's legitimate Bachelors and Masters degrees as compared to your imaginary and non-existent ones.

From what I've seen of the veritable tsunami of bullshit on your farcical web pages, your powers of critical thinking struggle to match those of Bozo the clown.  And I'm not trying to insult Bozo by saying that. 

     

Found a few more bullshiters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_travelers_by_name

All this lot are sucked in as well.

Lance Armstrong is not happy with this thread. 

Quote from: Heiwa on October 04, 2014, 01:24:59 PM

Buzz and Armstrong were a great 5 ***** show!
Taught me to think critically.

In that case they did a truly crappy job LOL.  Although, I'm getting the distinct impression that you're secretly envious of Aldrin's and Armstrong's legitimate Bachelors and Masters degrees as compared to your imaginary and non-existent ones.

From what I've seen of the veritable tsunami of bullshit on your farcical web pages, your powers of critical thinking struggle to match those of Bozo the clown.  And I'm not trying to insult Bozo by saying that. 

     

Thanks for mentioning my popular, serious web pages about, i.a. pseudo science in space, in the military and in various accident investigations. It is quite easy to fool people, especially Australians down under seeing everything upside down. You find my impressive cv at http://heiwaco.com/cv.htm .

Thanks for mentioning my popular, serious web pages about, i.a. pseudo science in space, in the military and in various accident investigations.

No problems Anders.   

The more people of true intellect who read through your numerous pages of amateur science-fiction the better it is as far as I'm concerned.

Your intellectual shortcomings are apparently still blinding you to the fact that your pages get so many views simply because people just can't believe that somebody can write so much absolute bullshit and keep a straight face.  They're laughing at you.

One of the first giveaways that your site is not serious is the sheer number of exclamation marks (!) you use, plus all the large, bolded and brightly coloured fonts LOL.  All script kiddies make that mistake, and it shows with your unprofessional pages.

You need to try a lot harder with your next favourite manufactured conspiracy site my friend, or the interwebs will continue to treat you with the derision you deserve.

—Think about it.

Quote from: Heiwa on October 07, 2014, 12:30:57 AM

Thanks for mentioning my popular, serious web pages about, i.a. pseudo science in space, in the military and in various accident investigations.

No problems Anders.   

The more people of true intellect who read through your numerous pages of amateur science-fiction the better it is as far as I'm concerned.

Your intellectual shortcomings are apparently still blinding you to the fact that your pages get so many views simply because people just can't believe that somebody can write so much absolute bullshit and keep a straight face.  They're laughing at you.

One of the first giveaways that your site is not serious is the sheer number of exclamation marks (!) you use, plus all the large, bolded and brightly coloured fonts LOL.  All script kiddies make that mistake, and it shows with your unprofessional pages.

You need to try a lot harder with your next favourite manufactured conspiracy site my friend, or the interwebs will continue to treat you with the derision you deserve.

—Think about it.

Thanks!!!!!!  As the Earth, flat or not, is upside down at your place (?), it seems what is left in your empty head is in the wrong location (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), so you can at least wake up, switch on your PC, etc. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The button in the middle!!!!?!!! Do not forget to take a shower, brush your teeth, put on your underwear (the clean one ... not the one used the past three monthes), clean your nose and have a good day.

I feel sorry for your neighbors. 

Thanks!!!!!!  As the Earth, flat or not, is upside down at your place (?), it seems what is left in your empty head is in the wrong location (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), so you can at least wake up, switch on your PC, etc. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The button in the middle!!!!?!!! Do not forget to take a shower, brush your teeth, put on your underwear (the clean one ... not the one used the past three monthes), clean your nose and have a good day.

I feel sorry for your neighbors.

It never ceases to amuse me that when someone with more than dubious scientific "qualifications" is backed into a corner without any answers, they invariably fall back to the good ol' tried and trusted ad hominem.  Well done Anders!

I have to say though the above comments look as though they were written by an 8-year-old LOL.  I don't mind being on the receiving end of well-crafted, clever put-downs—they're actually often quite funny—but poor old Anders just ain't capable of anything like that.

At least this type of dross is indicative of the sort of "standards" of his web pages—that is, pretty childish, so it'll save a lot of people wasting their time trawling through his Loony Tunes notions.

I'm also glad to see that I've touched a raw nerve in this guy's tiny brain though;  he's taken a lot of time to respond to my ongoing comments about him, whereas most people would've just ignored me.

(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

macrohard, that is considered low content posting in the upper fora.  Please refrain from doing that.  Thanks. 

I will provide you with calculations and explanations starting from the ground up. The whole lot, in time.

Any progress on solving a = v/t with v = 17,000 mi/hr and t = 8 minutes and getting 5 mi/sec² yet?

For that matter, getting anything other than about 1.6g would be interesting enough.

Quote from: sceptimatic on October 02, 2014, 03:40:46 PM

I will provide you with calculations and explanations starting from the ground up. The whole lot, in time.

Any progress on solving a = v/t with v = 17,000 mi/hr and t = 8 minutes and getting 5 mi/sec² yet?

For that matter, getting anything other than about 1.6g would be interesting enough.

Yeah, I have all of the calculations. It makes hilarious reading. I'll be sure to put them out once you lot have done your homework on it. I'll mark you all on how well you do in getting right what you have blatantly done wrong. Don't argue this point, just put up the right calculations for the acceleration to 17,000 mph from a standing start, up to 8 minutes flight.
Oh and I'll just kick a little clue into this as well, as I'm feeling a little generous.
The clue is working out how many miles it is to get into orbit for your shuttle in the 8 minutes we are told it takes.

Good luck. 

Thanks for the clue. The answer is: You don't know what you are talking about.

The clue is working out how many miles it is to get into orbit for your shuttle in the 8 minutes we are told it takes.

What difference does the distance make? 

More stalling. No math. No surprise.

Yeah, I have all of the calculations. It makes hilarious reading. I'll be sure to put them out once you lot have done your homework on it. I'll mark you all on how well you do in getting right what you have blatantly done wrong. Don't argue this point, just put up the right calculations for the acceleration to 17,000 mph from a standing start, up to 8 minutes flight.
Oh and I'll just kick a little clue into this as well, as I'm feeling a little generous.
The clue is working out how many miles it is to get into orbit for your shuttle in the 8 minutes we are told it takes.

Good luck. 

Let's see if we can parse the sceptalk* and see if sceptimatic might have actually said anything here.

I'll be sure to put them out once you lot have done your homework on it. I'll mark you all on how well you do in getting right what you have blatantly done wrong.

You seem to be weaseling here. What does "I'll mark you" mean? Does it mean you'll actually tell us where you think a mistake is, acknowledge to us if you find none, or just reply with something like "nope, wrong!" regardless if it's correct or not.

Don't argue this point

Weasel words.

just put up the right calculations for the acceleration to 17,000 mph from a standing start, up to 8 minutes flight.

Emphasis added.

Already been done. You've seen the formula used and the answer. We're supposed to jump through hoops again and you'll laugh because we do what you ask?

The "gotcha", of course, is the word "right". Are you the one who decides what's "right", whether it really is or not? Sounds like an excuse.

The clue is working out how many miles it is to get into orbit for your shuttle in the 8 minutes we are told it takes."

If you think the distance traveled is needed to calculate acceleration given delta-v and t, then we're don't have a clue how you think this should be done. We admit it. So show us.

Yeah, I have all of the calculations. It makes hilarious reading.

I'll bet!

* "It means what sceptimatic thinks it means, not necessarily what it says."

Like I said. Don't keep arguing it, it's pointless. Do the calculations and get back to me. I'm patient.

They've been done. You just look like you are stalling. If you had a reputation to protect, this would matter.

Like I said. Don't keep arguing it, it's pointless. Do the calculations and get back to me. I'm patient.

We've already done the calculations. You haven't or you'd be showing them.

You're right about it being pointless in one sense; you'll never show them because it would be an admission that you're all talk. However, you're hoping everyone will just forget that, so maybe reminding you every now and then will help others remember the kind of things you claim but can't back up, and that your promises mean nothing. That's something at least.

It should be pretty obvious to you that a shuttle launching into so called space, supposedly attaining a speed of 17,000 mph, would have to accelerate at a 5 miles per second per second to attain this 17,000 mph speed.

Do you under stand what this means?

You're still wrong.

480 seconds in 8 minutes. 35.4 mph/sec=17000 mph.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragstrip#Typical_quarter_mile_times

Dead easy.

480 seconds in 8 minutes. 35.4 mph/sec=17000 mph.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragstrip#Typical_quarter_mile_times

Dead easy.

Can you go through this very carefully and explain what you are saying. Also can you tell me how many miles up into the atmosphere you would be by going along with your calculations.

Quote from: guv on October 10, 2014, 04:38:00 PM

480 seconds in 8 minutes. 35.4 mph/sec=17000 mph.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragstrip#Typical_quarter_mile_times

Dead easy.

Can you go through this very carefully and explain what you are saying. Also can you tell me how many miles up into the atmosphere you would be by going along with your calculations.

Please provide your calculations.

Quote from: guv on October 10, 2014, 04:38:00 PM

480 seconds in 8 minutes. 35.4 mph/sec=17000 mph.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragstrip#Typical_quarter_mile_times

Dead easy.

Can you go through this very carefully and explain what you are saying. Also can you tell me how many miles up into the atmosphere you would be by going along with your calculations.

The distance travelled over the 8 minutes would be approximately 1,130 miles. You are a genius with an Internet connection, surely you know how these numbers were derived.

Just in case you are curious Scepti the 35.4 mph/sec answer is the same as 0.001 miles/s² answer I gave a few pages ago.

Quote from: sceptimatic on October 11, 2014, 02:52:36 AM

Quote from: guv on October 10, 2014, 04:38:00 PM

480 seconds in 8 minutes. 35.4 mph/sec=17000 mph.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragstrip#Typical_quarter_mile_times

Dead easy.

Can you go through this very carefully and explain what you are saying. Also can you tell me how many miles up into the atmosphere you would be by going along with your calculations.

The distance travelled over the 8 minutes would be approximately 1,130 miles. You are a genius with an Internet connection, surely you know how these numbers were derived.

It doesn't quite work out, does it.

Quote from: Rama Set on October 11, 2014, 06:04:46 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on October 11, 2014, 02:52:36 AM

Quote from: guv on October 10, 2014, 04:38:00 PM

480 seconds in 8 minutes. 35.4 mph/sec=17000 mph.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragstrip#Typical_quarter_mile_times

Dead easy.

Can you go through this very carefully and explain what you are saying. Also can you tell me how many miles up into the atmosphere you would be by going along with your calculations.

The distance travelled over the 8 minutes would be approximately 1,130 miles. You are a genius with an Internet connection, surely you know how these numbers were derived.

It doesn't quite work out, does it.

if you have something to say you should just say it. This is not a film noire and you are not a femme fatale.

Quote from: Rama Set on October 11, 2014, 06:04:46 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on October 11, 2014, 02:52:36 AM

Quote from: guv on October 10, 2014, 04:38:00 PM

480 seconds in 8 minutes. 35.4 mph/sec=17000 mph.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragstrip#Typical_quarter_mile_times

Dead easy.

Can you go through this very carefully and explain what you are saying. Also can you tell me how many miles up into the atmosphere you would be by going along with your calculations.

The distance travelled over the 8 minutes would be approximately 1,130 miles. You are a genius with an Internet connection, surely you know how these numbers were derived.

It doesn't quite work out, does it.

And how does it not work out?

Quote from: sceptimatic on October 11, 2014, 06:06:50 AM

Quote from: Rama Set on October 11, 2014, 06:04:46 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on October 11, 2014, 02:52:36 AM

Quote from: guv on October 10, 2014, 04:38:00 PM

480 seconds in 8 minutes. 35.4 mph/sec=17000 mph.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragstrip#Typical_quarter_mile_times

Dead easy.

Can you go through this very carefully and explain what you are saying. Also can you tell me how many miles up into the atmosphere you would be by going along with your calculations.

The distance travelled over the 8 minutes would be approximately 1,130 miles. You are a genius with an Internet connection, surely you know how these numbers were derived.

It doesn't quite work out, does it.

if you have something to say you should just say it. This is not a film noire and you are not a femme fatale.

I've already shown you how your calculations are wrong. You've just worked it out for yourself as to why they are wrong, so I'll wait and see if you or anyone else can crunch the numbers to make it look more realistic. If you can't - fair enough.