Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations

I'm waiting for some honest sensible person to come along who has the means to try out the experiment for their proof. I don't trust any of you lot to give factual answers.
Anyone with a vacuum chamber and pump, let me know and I'll tell you what you need to do to prove that communication does not work in space.
It basically renders ALL space vehicles, a no go.

Quote from: Starman on April 25, 2014, 06:09:17 AM

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Either way the call is not hard to do. To say HE did not talk to them is not the issue. The issue is did they that really go the moon. It has nothing to do with Nixon. Your argument about Nixon is not proof the moon mission does not exist.

What about the actornauts talking to each other on the moon? Is that not evidence either. Hahahahaha.
Not evidence, lol. I think it damning evidence that they didn't go. If you can't communicate, then the mission is dead, don't you think. 

Have you ever used a walkie talkie when you were young?

Yep, I sure have.

you real question is was there a medium on the moon?

No, it isn't just that. It's all communication from Earth to moon, to Earth and on the moon between astronauts supposedly walking upon it.

Think about this, folks. Apart from communication being rendered pathetic in a vacuum, picture this scenario.

The astronauts had a back pack with a small aerial on it. Nixon was supposedly talking to them on the moon and they recieved his call through thos aerial on their back packs, then communicated back.
Has anyone ever seen a solider in a field, communicating back to base and losing signal?
Out of range, yet these goons are talking to Nixon with their little aerials and radios, all the while the Earth is spinning at over 1000 mph, with no loss of signal, even if they were in fresh air on the frigging moon. Hahahahaha.

Can people not see how ridiculous this all is?

Did you notice that the astronaut on the moon was talking to Huston? Their low power radio is making connection to the LEM and the LEM is relaying the signal to a huge dish on the earth. You should be smart enough to figure out that the astronaut did not connect DIRECTLY to Nixon.

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 25, 2014, 06:19:29 AM

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Quote from: Starman on April 25, 2014, 05:58:41 AM

Either way the call is not hard to do. To say HE did not talk to them is not the issue. The issue is did they that really go the moon. It has nothing to do with Nixon. Your argument about Nixon is not proof the moon mission does not exist.

What about the actornauts talking to each other on the moon? Is that not evidence either. Hahahahaha.
Not evidence, lol. I think it damning evidence that they didn't go. If you can't communicate, then the mission is dead, don't you think. 

Have you ever used a walkie talkie when you were young?

Yep, I sure have.

you real question is was there a medium on the moon?

No, it isn't just that. It's all communication from Earth to moon, to Earth and on the moon between astronauts supposedly walking upon it.

Think about this, folks. Apart from communication being rendered pathetic in a vacuum, picture this scenario.

The astronauts had a back pack with a small aerial on it. Nixon was supposedly talking to them on the moon and they recieved his call through thos aerial on their back packs, then communicated back.
Has anyone ever seen a solider in a field, communicating back to base and losing signal?
Out of range, yet these goons are talking to Nixon with their little aerials and radios, all the while the Earth is spinning at over 1000 mph, with no loss of signal, even if they were in fresh air on the frigging moon. Hahahahaha.

Can people not see how ridiculous this all is?

Did you notice that the astronaut on the moon was talking to Huston? Their low power radio is making connection to the LEM and the LEM is relaying the signal to a huge dish on the earth. You should be smart enough to figure out that the astronaut did not connect DIRECTLY to Nixon.

I don't care if the astronaut communicated with a big moon Alien holding a big dish who bounced it off  the LEM and a relay of 200, 000 fake satellites to a dish 10 miles wide. It's not happening and never will and never has.

Quote from: Starman on April 25, 2014, 06:45:24 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 25, 2014, 06:19:29 AM

Quote from: Starman on April 25, 2014, 06:09:17 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 25, 2014, 06:07:49 AM

Quote from: Starman on April 25, 2014, 06:04:15 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 25, 2014, 06:01:47 AM

Quote from: Starman on April 25, 2014, 05:58:41 AM

Either way the call is not hard to do. To say HE did not talk to them is not the issue. The issue is did they that really go the moon. It has nothing to do with Nixon. Your argument about Nixon is not proof the moon mission does not exist.

What about the actornauts talking to each other on the moon? Is that not evidence either. Hahahahaha.
Not evidence, lol. I think it damning evidence that they didn't go. If you can't communicate, then the mission is dead, don't you think. 

Have you ever used a walkie talkie when you were young?

Yep, I sure have.

you real question is was there a medium on the moon?

No, it isn't just that. It's all communication from Earth to moon, to Earth and on the moon between astronauts supposedly walking upon it.

Think about this, folks. Apart from communication being rendered pathetic in a vacuum, picture this scenario.

The astronauts had a back pack with a small aerial on it. Nixon was supposedly talking to them on the moon and they recieved his call through thos aerial on their back packs, then communicated back.
Has anyone ever seen a solider in a field, communicating back to base and losing signal?
Out of range, yet these goons are talking to Nixon with their little aerials and radios, all the while the Earth is spinning at over 1000 mph, with no loss of signal, even if they were in fresh air on the frigging moon. Hahahahaha.

Can people not see how ridiculous this all is?

Did you notice that the astronaut on the moon was talking to Huston? Their low power radio is making connection to the LEM and the LEM is relaying the signal to a huge dish on the earth. You should be smart enough to figure out that the astronaut did not connect DIRECTLY to Nixon.

I don't care if the astronaut communicated with a big moon Alien holding a big dish who bounced it off  the LEM and a relay of 200, 000 fake satellites to a dish 10 miles wide. It's not happening and never will and never has.

When someone realized they are wrong they usually respond with "I don't care.... " That is how that did it and it is not hard to do in that situation. The first rule of a conspiracy theorist is:"I am never wrong".

When someone realized they are wrong they usually respond with "I don't care.... " That is how that did it and it is not hard to do in that situation. The first rule of a conspiracy theorist is:"I am never wrong".

The very fact that you can physically verify for yourself, as anyone can, is proof that I am correct. I've done the experiment.
What puzzles me is all you so called scientists and not one of you has a frigging vacuum chamber. 

Quote from: Starman on April 25, 2014, 06:54:57 AM

When someone realized they are wrong they usually respond with "I don't care.... " That is how that did it and it is not hard to do in that situation. The first rule of a conspiracy theorist is:"I am never wrong".

The very fact that you can physically verify for yourself, as anyone can, is proof that I am correct. I've done the experiment.
What puzzles me is all you so called scientists and not one of you has a frigging vacuum chamber. 

Are you replying to the wrong post?

Quote from: Starman on April 25, 2014, 06:54:57 AM

When someone realized they are wrong they usually respond with "I don't care.... " That is how that did it and it is not hard to do in that situation. The first rule of a conspiracy theorist is:"I am never wrong".

The very fact that you can physically verify for yourself, as anyone can, is proof that I am correct. I've done the experiment.
What puzzles me is all you so called scientists and not one of you has a frigging vacuum chamber. 

Then why so hesitant on describing the experiment?

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Quote from: Donk3y on April 25, 2014, 05:54:22 AM

LOL I THINK I FOUND OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS!!! IT'S HILARIOUS!!! XD
So this is basically what goes on in his mind:
"Derp herp herp, they talk in radio but they hear sound so it mean they no talk with radio but with sound. I DEBUNKED IT DERP!" xD

He's most probably too stupid to know how they code/decode information in radio waves xD

Decode? Oops, have I messed up. I didn't realise they were communicating in morse code. 

Actually today's communication is a form of morse code. It is called digital encoding.

What about 1969 from an old dial up ph9one from the whitehouse? Is that the same?

Decode or no decode, it still has to get to it's destination and it can't. There is no medium. I've proved it and you know it. You can do it yourself and so can anyone with a few gadgets and an evacuation chamber.

Oh you mean the experiment you told nobody about?
Hey I made an experiment where I PROVED that you have an IQ of 15. Anybody can do the experiment, you only need access to the internet. I'm not going to tell anybody how I made it though.

I'm waiting for some honest sensible person to come along who has the means to try out the experiment for their proof. I don't trust any of you lot to give factual answers.
Anyone with a vacuum chamber and pump, let me know and I'll tell you what you need to do to prove that communication does not work in space.
It basically renders ALL space vehicles, a no go.

Okay, tell me, I've got access to all of that at my university. Or are you going to pull out now? xD

He will not believe this is a vacuum chamber. You have to put him inside and then turn on the pump...

He will not believe this is a vacuum chamber. You have to put him inside and then turn on the pump...

Just put a small flask of water and watch it boil it away.

Simple question...

Why are you guys STILL wasting so much time responding to the resident troll sceptimatic?
 

Simple question...

Why are you guys STILL wasting so much time responding to the resident troll sceptimatic?

Stop crying Geoff, you had your go against me and cried like a baby. Let the others try. 

A working power plant is generating a lot of power to the grid. It has to be used or excess heat will build up and start destroying things.

You never answered me earlier, but why doesn't my portable generator overheat when it's running without a load on it? There's nowhere for all that "excess power" to go to, so surely it would get hot? Yet, I can put my hand on the generator while it's running, and it's not even warm.

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 23, 2014, 05:24:42 AM

A working power plant is generating a lot of power to the grid. It has to be used or excess heat will build up and start destroying things.

You never answered me earlier, but why doesn't my portable generator overheat when it's running without a load on it? There's nowhere for all that "excess power" to go to, so surely it would get hot? Yet, I can put my hand on the generator while it's running, and it's not even warm.

There is no excesss power if it's not under load. Only a ticking over power that is easily dealt with by the atmosphere taking away the heat put out  which is minor.

You do feel heat but you feel minor heat to your touch. It's still getting dumped, only in small amounts which is only by the running generator motor.

It's all about friction. The slower it goes, the less friction of molecules and the less heat. Under load, you compress that friction, which heats up.
That's all electricity is, it's friction of molecules/matter.

Quote from: Scintific Method on April 27, 2014, 04:59:03 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 23, 2014, 05:24:42 AM

A working power plant is generating a lot of power to the grid. It has to be used or excess heat will build up and start destroying things.

You never answered me earlier, but why doesn't my portable generator overheat when it's running without a load on it? There's nowhere for all that "excess power" to go to, so surely it would get hot? Yet, I can put my hand on the generator while it's running, and it's not even warm.

There is no excesss power if it's not under load. Only a ticking over power that is easily dealt with by the atmosphere taking away the heat put out  which is minor.

You do feel heat but you feel minor heat to your touch. It's still getting dumped, only in small amounts which is only by the running generator motor.

It's all about friction. The slower it goes, the less friction of molecules and the less heat. Under load, you compress that friction, which heats up.
That's all electricity is, it's friction of molecules/matter.

The generator is on a governor to keep the speed constant. The generator speed stays the same.

Quote from: Scintific Method on April 27, 2014, 04:59:03 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 23, 2014, 05:24:42 AM

A working power plant is generating a lot of power to the grid. It has to be used or excess heat will build up and start destroying things.

You never answered me earlier, but why doesn't my portable generator overheat when it's running without a load on it? There's nowhere for all that "excess power" to go to, so surely it would get hot? Yet, I can put my hand on the generator while it's running, and it's not even warm.

There is no excesss power if it's not under load. Only a ticking over power that is easily dealt with by the atmosphere taking away the heat put out  which is minor.

You do feel heat but you feel minor heat to your touch. It's still getting dumped, only in small amounts which is only by the running generator motor.

It's all about friction. The slower it goes, the less friction of molecules and the less heat. Under load, you compress that friction, which heats up.
That's all electricity is, it's friction of molecules/matter.

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it? 

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 07:18:44 AM

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it?

I have a generator and there is no such thing as extra power. In the end power(watts) is equal to voltage(volt) times current(amperes) P=V x I. If there is no load then there is no current then no power generated. It is not complicated. Glad yo understand.

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 07:18:44 AM

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it?

Et tu, jroa?

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 07:18:44 AM

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it?

Not sure why you replied to my post and asked that question.  You should be replying to Scepti as he has now claimed that extra power needs to be dumped yet that there is no extra power when not under a load.

Quote from: jroa on April 27, 2014, 08:12:48 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 07:18:44 AM

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it?

Not sure why you replied to my post and asked that question.  You should be replying to Scepti as he has now claimed that extra power needs to be dumped yet that there is no extra power when not under a load.

Do you know why motors have fans on them?

I think people might be confusing power factor for real power.  Power factor is the difference between apparent power and real power and corrected using (usually) captive banks, and/or inductive banks.  This is not dumping power.  You are simply shifting the phase imbalance. 

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Quote from: jroa on April 27, 2014, 08:12:48 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 07:18:44 AM

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it?

Not sure why you replied to my post and asked that question.  You should be replying to Scepti as he has now claimed that extra power needs to be dumped yet that there is no extra power when not under a load.

Do you know why motors have fans on them?

Yes.

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 09:25:31 AM

Quote from: jroa on April 27, 2014, 08:12:48 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 07:18:44 AM

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it?

Not sure why you replied to my post and asked that question.  You should be replying to Scepti as he has now claimed that extra power needs to be dumped yet that there is no extra power when not under a load.

Do you know why motors have fans on them?

We are discussing generators, not motors.  Fans are to cool the components and increase their life.

Please explain in detail how a power station dumps power.

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 27, 2014, 09:28:24 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 09:25:31 AM

Quote from: jroa on April 27, 2014, 08:12:48 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 07:18:44 AM

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it?

Not sure why you replied to my post and asked that question.  You should be replying to Scepti as he has now claimed that extra power needs to be dumped yet that there is no extra power when not under a load.

Do you know why motors have fans on them?

Yes.

Good. Now you know where the heat is dissipated on an idling motor.

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 27, 2014, 09:28:24 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 09:25:31 AM

Quote from: jroa on April 27, 2014, 08:12:48 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 07:18:44 AM

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it?

Not sure why you replied to my post and asked that question.  You should be replying to Scepti as he has now claimed that extra power needs to be dumped yet that there is no extra power when not under a load.

Do you know why motors have fans on them?

We are discussing generators, not motors.  Fans are to cool the components and increase their life.

Please explain in detail how a power station dumps power.

There's various ways. Large resistors, flywheels, street lights, heating elements...all kinds of ways.

Quote from: inquisitive on April 27, 2014, 09:43:54 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 27, 2014, 09:28:24 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 09:25:31 AM

Quote from: jroa on April 27, 2014, 08:12:48 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 07:18:44 AM

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it?

Not sure why you replied to my post and asked that question.  You should be replying to Scepti as he has now claimed that extra power needs to be dumped yet that there is no extra power when not under a load.

Do you know why motors have fans on them?

We are discussing generators, not motors.  Fans are to cool the components and increase their life.

Please explain in detail how a power station dumps power.

There's various ways. Large resistors, flywheels, street lights, heating elements...all kinds of ways.

Please provide a link to documentation on this.

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Quote from: inquisitive on April 27, 2014, 09:43:54 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on April 27, 2014, 09:28:24 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 09:25:31 AM

Quote from: jroa on April 27, 2014, 08:12:48 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 07:18:44 AM

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it?

Not sure why you replied to my post and asked that question.  You should be replying to Scepti as he has now claimed that extra power needs to be dumped yet that there is no extra power when not under a load.

Do you know why motors have fans on them?

We are discussing generators, not motors.  Fans are to cool the components and increase their life.

Please explain in detail how a power station dumps power.

There's various ways. Large resistors, flywheels, street lights, heating elements...all kinds of ways.

Please provide a link to documentation on this.

I'll do better than that. Come and visit me and I'll provide a nice place for your head down my smelly underpants as I'm wearing them.

I'll do better than that. Come and visit me and I'll provide a nice place for your head down my smelly underpants as I'm wearing them.

You're getting kinda weird now...

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Quote from: sceptimatic on April 27, 2014, 09:28:24 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 09:25:31 AM

Quote from: jroa on April 27, 2014, 08:12:48 AM

Quote from: BJ1234 on April 27, 2014, 07:18:44 AM

If power generators don't produce extra excess power when there is no load, why would they need to "dump" excess power when not under load?  Do you not see the contradiction of your statements?

I own a portable generator.  Why do I not need to dump excess power when nothing is plugged into it?

Not sure why you replied to my post and asked that question.  You should be replying to Scepti as he has now claimed that extra power needs to be dumped yet that there is no extra power when not under a load.

Do you know why motors have fans on them?

Yes.

Good. Now you know where the heat is dissipated on an idling motor.

But it isn't to "dump" excess electricity as you are saying.