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Shadow Differences
« on: January 06, 2010, 01:42:20 PM »
Qutoed from: http://www.smarterthanthat.com/astronomy/top-10-ways-to-know-the-earth-is-not-flat/

(4) SHADOWS AND STICKS
If you stick a stick in the [sticky] ground, it will produce a shadow. The shadow moves as time passes (which is the principle for ancient Shadow Clocks). If the world had been flat, then two sticks in different locations would produce the same shadow:



But they don’t. This is because the earth is round, and not flat:



Eratosthenes (276-194 BCE) used this principle to calculate the circumference of the Earth quite accurately. To see this demonstrated, refer to my experiment video about Eratosthenes and the circumference of the earth – “The Earth’s curvature is tasty!“.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2010, 01:55:42 PM »
And what if the light doesn't hit the earth in parallel lines?
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2010, 02:05:27 PM »
Quote from: SupahLovah on January 06, 2010, 01:55:42 PM
And what if the light doesn't hit the earth in parallel lines?

The next step would be to explain the deviations.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2010, 09:13:06 PM »
Quote from: Canadark on January 06, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: SupahLovah on January 06, 2010, 01:55:42 PM
And what if the light doesn't hit the earth in parallel lines?

The next step would be to explain the deviations.

The deviations are explained by the fact that the sun is close to the earth.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2010, 09:15:10 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 06, 2010, 09:13:06 PM
The deviations are explained by the fact that the sun is close to the earth.


Close enough that to produce a 20minute freefall Vomit-rocket recording in one shot, that you would fly over it?

The cow Vomit-rocket jumped flew over the Moon Sun.

Sounds like a nursery rhyme
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 06:18:40 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 06, 2010, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: Canadark on January 06, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: SupahLovah on January 06, 2010, 01:55:42 PM
And what if the light doesn't hit the earth in parallel lines?

The next step would be to explain the deviations.

The deviations are explained by the fact that the sun is close to the earth.

And yet, strangely enough, the brightness and heat at these two points are more or less equal. If the shadows are longer because of how much closer the sun is, wouldn't that mean an increase in brightness and radiant heat as well?
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 09:17:57 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 06, 2010, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: Canadark on January 06, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: SupahLovah on January 06, 2010, 01:55:42 PM
And what if the light doesn't hit the earth in parallel lines?

The next step would be to explain the deviations.

The deviations are explained by the fact that the sun is close to the earth.

But the scientific consensus is that the sun is much much further away.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2010, 09:35:34 AM »
Quote from: Canadark on January 07, 2010, 09:17:57 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 06, 2010, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: Canadark on January 06, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: SupahLovah on January 06, 2010, 01:55:42 PM
And what if the light doesn't hit the earth in parallel lines?

The next step would be to explain the deviations.

The deviations are explained by the fact that the sun is close to the earth.

But the scientific consensus is that the sun is much much further away.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Sun
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 10:28:47 AM »
Quote from: Canadark on January 07, 2010, 09:17:57 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 06, 2010, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: Canadark on January 06, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: SupahLovah on January 06, 2010, 01:55:42 PM
And what if the light doesn't hit the earth in parallel lines?

The next step would be to explain the deviations.

The deviations are explained by the fact that the sun is close to the earth.

But the scientific consensus is that the sun is much much further away.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2010, 10:47:18 AM »
Tom you never cease to give me an awesome laugh.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2010, 10:47:27 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 07, 2010, 09:35:34 AM
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Sun

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Constant Speed
The sun moves constant speed into the horizon at sunset because it is at such a height that already beyond the apex of perspective lines. It has maximized the possible broadness of the lines of perspective in relation to the earth. It is intersecting the earth at a near 45 degree angle. Any greater than that and it would actually appear to accelerate into the horizon.

???  WTF?  Does that make the least bit of sense to anyone at all?
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2010, 12:09:34 PM »
Quote from: markjo on January 07, 2010, 10:47:27 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 07, 2010, 09:35:34 AM
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Sun

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Constant Speed
The sun moves constant speed into the horizon at sunset because it is at such a height that already beyond the apex of perspective lines. It has maximized the possible broadness of the lines of perspective in relation to the earth. It is intersecting the earth at a near 45 degree angle. Any greater than that and it would actually appear to accelerate into the horizon.

???  WTF?  Does that make the least bit of sense to anyone at all?

Explained in depth here:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Constant+Speed+of+the+Sun
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2010, 02:07:52 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 07, 2010, 09:35:34 AM
Quote from: Canadark on January 07, 2010, 09:17:57 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on January 06, 2010, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: Canadark on January 06, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: SupahLovah on January 06, 2010, 01:55:42 PM
And what if the light doesn't hit the earth in parallel lines?

The next step would be to explain the deviations.

The deviations are explained by the fact that the sun is close to the earth.

But the scientific consensus is that the sun is much much further away.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Sun

This link is not peer reviewed.
...did you write it yourself?
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2010, 01:47:56 AM »
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2010, 05:37:41 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop is a failure on January 06, 2010, 01:42:20 PM
Qutoed from: http://www.smarterthanthat.com/astronomy/top-10-ways-to-know-the-earth-is-not-flat/

(4) SHADOWS AND STICKS
If you stick a stick in the [sticky] ground, it will produce a shadow. The shadow moves as time passes (which is the principle for ancient Shadow Clocks). If the world had been flat, then two sticks in different locations would produce the same shadow:



But they don’t. This is because the earth is round, and not flat:



Eratosthenes (276-194 BCE) used this principle to calculate the circumference of the Earth quite accurately. To see this demonstrated, refer to my experiment video about Eratosthenes and the circumference of the earth – “The Earth’s curvature is tasty!“.

that is a nice website, and I am wondering why you didn't post on all topics.  The timezone one would be interesting to hear and see responses.CBF myself.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2010, 05:39:22 AM »
This is easily explained by the Electromagnetic Accelerator hypothesis, which suggests that sunlight (and all other light, too) curves upwards as it travels. In fact, it is evidence for it.

Edit: Also, I have already debunked all ten of the proofs on the page you linked to. See this post: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=32431.msg810399#msg810399
« Last Edit: January 10, 2010, 05:41:44 AM by Parsifal »
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2010, 07:08:39 AM »
Quote from: Parsifal on January 10, 2010, 05:39:22 AM
This is easily explained by the Electromagnetic Accelerator hypothesis, which suggests that sunlight (and all other light, too) curves upwards as it travels. In fact, it is evidence for it.

Edit: Also, I have already debunked all ten of the proofs on the page you linked to. See this post: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=32431.msg810399#msg810399

Two sentence answers will kill you on this forum.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2010, 08:31:26 AM »
Explain GPS then. Go read the geostationary satellite thread. For FE psuedolittes to work, light must bend down as well, even though we know radio waves don't bend.


Speaking of that, radio waves don't bend as radar is accurate. How does visible light bend? They are the same thing you know.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2010, 06:15:55 PM »
Quote from: ugaboga313 on January 10, 2010, 08:31:26 AM
Explain GPS then. Go read the geostationary satellite thread. For FE psuedolittes to work, light must bend down as well, even though we know radio waves don't bend.


Speaking of that, radio waves don't bend as radar is accurate. How does visible light bend? They are the same thing you know.

Radio waves do bend according to EA theory, by the same unknown mechanism as visible light.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2010, 06:57:25 PM »
Sorry, radar works. Thus it does not bend as it would mess up a good bit of stuff. Try again.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2010, 07:03:44 PM »
Quote from: ugaboga313 on January 10, 2010, 06:57:25 PM
Thus it does not bend as it would mess up a good bit of stuff.

Why?
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2010, 11:28:32 PM »
Like what?
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2010, 04:01:11 PM »
If radio waves bended, radio wouldn't really work. Radar does work and so radio waves which are the same thing as light waves do not bend.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2010, 04:09:31 PM »
Quote from: ugaboga313 on January 11, 2010, 04:01:11 PM
If radio waves bended, radio wouldn't really work.
Why?
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2010, 04:26:01 PM »
I meant to say radar. If waves bended, radar wouldn't really work.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2010, 04:32:57 PM »
Quote from: ugaboga313 on January 11, 2010, 04:26:01 PM
I meant to say radar. If waves bended, radar wouldn't really work.
Why?
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2010, 04:41:53 PM »
http://www.howstuffworks.com/radar.htm

Otherwise, radar wouldn't work on planes which are far enough away to invoke bending I assume. Radar does work on planes and accurately, thus light does not bend.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2010, 04:46:35 PM »
From the link you provided:
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NASA uses radar to map the Earth and other planets, to track satellites and space debris and to help with things like docking and maneuvering.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2010, 04:48:32 PM »
In two thread you throw out information based on the charge NASA is lying. What about every other organization that uses radar? So what that one crooked organization (according to you) uses it? You have yet to attack my argument, merely misdirect it. Further attempts will be met with the appropriate warning from mods.
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Re: Shadow Differences
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2010, 04:49:47 PM »
Please show what other uses of the radar would be impossible if EM waves did not travel along a straight line.
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