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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Autumnal equinox experiment will proove (again) that the Earth is round.

« on: September 21, 2009, 04:17:23 PM »

There's a round Earth society?

Yessir. I just realized that also. O.o

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Recomend me a good movie that no one has ever heard of....

« on: September 21, 2009, 03:56:28 PM »

Waking Ned Devine.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The Conspiracy.

« on: September 21, 2009, 02:07:04 PM »

Ambrosiah, Thermal Detonator, and markjo, in all honesty, I don't disagree with any of you.  I believe there might be a couple of FE'ers on this site who will argue that there is some outside evidence of cover-ups, but I don't think there really is anything concrete on that.  The conspiracy section of FET is almost certainly the weakest part we have, and we are thinking of more plausible or elaborate answers than "The government is lying to us".

You can't think up answers for a matter like this. This is a matter of true or false. Not a matter of thinking of a way to support your conspiracy theory, you need show a way to support it.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Whats in it for the government to hide the fact that the earth is flat?(it isnt

« on: September 21, 2009, 01:51:16 PM »

The conspiracy you described in that thread is illogical, yes.  However, that conspiracy and the one that we believe exists are completely different.  No one here has ever suggested that planes are being shot down, or that the governments of 195 countries are all secretly working together.

You have totally missed my point in that thread.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Whats in it for the government to hide the fact that the earth is flat?(it isnt

« on: September 21, 2009, 01:32:43 PM »

Please read the FAQ and use the search feature. This question has been asked before ad nauseam.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=32449.0

That's just proving his point.  That question has been asked before, dozens of times.  Search for the answer.

I never asked anything. O.o
I simply stated how illogical the conspiracy is.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: $150 proof the earth isn't flat.

« on: September 21, 2009, 12:52:13 PM »

Fantastic photography of the rounded view created by curved light.

If you happen to be wrong about a flat earth, and you were taken into space and saw the earth as a sphere, what excuse would you use then?

Curved glass in the windows of the space-ship.

I lol'd.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Whats in it for the government to hide the fact that the earth is flat?(it isnt

« on: September 21, 2009, 12:47:37 PM »

Please read the FAQ and use the search feature. This question has been asked before ad nauseam.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=32449.0

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: $150 proof the earth isn't flat.

« on: September 21, 2009, 11:58:12 AM »

Fantastic photography of the rounded view created by curved light.

If you happen to be wrong about a flat earth, and you were taken into space and saw the earth as a sphere, what excuse would you use then?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The Conspiracy.

« on: September 21, 2009, 11:28:02 AM »

If you guys expect to spread your knowledge about a flat earth to more people, I'd highly suggest working out your conspiracy. The logic behind it just doesn't make any sense. Yes, the conspiracy is highly possible, but it is rather improbable because nothing proves it to be probable. It's shady; just made up to use as an excuse to prove NASA and other space agencies are wrong so you guys can feel good about yourselves and tell us about your scientific theories and crap. In all reality, think about this, your scientific "discoveries" will mean absolutely nothing unless you can prove NASA, 165 other country governments, 23 other space agencies, and the 98% of the population that believes the earth is a sphere, wrong. We need documents that show NASA workers doing the dirty work  you speak of. We need documents and testaments of different governments telling each other to hide the truth of a so -called flat earth. You can't believe a conspiracy exists unless you know it does with true evidence.

Until that day, the day you provide the world with proof that everyone is in on the conspiracy for a little dough, then I will consider the earth being flat.
The bottom of your pyramid of false belief will crumble; it is inevitable.


Btw, I would like to hear from more intellectual FET believers on this issue. 

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Explain this if you will.

« on: September 21, 2009, 08:28:21 AM »

Assuming you are referring to the alleged ice wall guards, probably non existent.

Ice wall guards, sounds like something out The Neverending Story or Zelda.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The Conspiracy.

« on: September 21, 2009, 08:24:21 AM »

As of right now, the most compelling piece of evidence for the conspiracy is the fact that the Earth is flat, yet NASA is claiming to have put men on the moon, taken pictures of a RE, etc.  If the Earth is indeed flat, then NASA must be lying when they say it isn't.

But where's the compelling evidence that the earth is flat? I'd take a claim of someone actually being in space rather than a claim of someone who hasn't and just wants to simply rebel against at supposed system that is corrupt and doesn't even exist.

There's not compelling evidence of NASA never being in space nor is there any compelling evidence of people at NASA grouped together photo-shopping a few pictures to make the earth look like a sphere.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The Conspiracy.

« on: September 21, 2009, 08:17:36 AM »

It isn't specifically one government and there would be only few needed to carry out the conspiracy. It's not like every single government official or employee would have to be involved.

International Space Station partners:
United States of America
Russia
Canada
Japan
European Space Agency member states:
United Kingdom
Germany
Italy
France
Belgium
Spain
Switzerland
Netherlands
Sweden
Austria
Norway
Denmark
Finland
Ireland
Portugal
Greece
Luxembourg

Other nations that have orbited satellites:
China
India
Israel


I counted 24. That's quite a bit more than "a few".

?

That isn't a few, he's making a statement on how fickle the argument of a conspiracy existing is.
If you say only a few need to be involved in such a conspiracy, then why are 24 countries undertaking space exploration?

How do you expect a conspiracy (which has a main goal of staying hidden) to be proven?

Follow the money.

Even if you follow the money in ends up where SEB's actually believe we've been in space and have taken photos of earth and have been to the moon. So it's just a dead end and doesn't help with your argument of a conspiracy existing because it still doesn't represent evidence and such.

It's funny how you guys can pile everything up in scientific evidence in trying the prove the FET is correct. But you don't realize you're just piling it all on top of your nonsense conspiracy theory that has nothing to back it up! At the end of the day, even with tons of scientific "proofs", it all comes down to whether NASA is lying to us or not,  and I have yet to see any evidence proving that they are.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The Conspiracy.

« on: September 20, 2009, 07:50:41 PM »

It isn't specifically one government and there would be only few needed to carry out the conspiracy. It's not like every single government official or employee would have to be involved.

Proof of such conspiracy please.

Scientific laws cannot even be proved. How do you expect a conspiracy (which has a main goal of staying hidden) to be proven?

This isn't a sense of science. But a sense of logic. How can you say a conspiracy exists, when there's no evidence that it does?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The Conspiracy.

« on: September 20, 2009, 07:37:40 PM »

It isn't specifically one government and there would be only few needed to carry out the conspiracy. It's not like every single government official or employee would have to be involved.

Proof of such conspiracy please.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Explain this if you will.

« on: September 20, 2009, 07:01:17 PM »

Part One.




Part Two.









Where's the said snow patrol and their AA guns and missiles?

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Flat Earth Q&A / The Conspiracy.

« on: September 20, 2009, 05:27:45 PM »

Ok ok. Apparently, there's a massive conspiracy in telling the world lies of there being a spherical earth. Even though you can stick the word conspiracy on anything and everything that occurs in everyday life and come up with made up facts and fool a few of your friends and family for some shits and giggles; you cannot fool a population of 6 billion+ people with one single conspiracy. Instead of taking a scientific stance, I'm going to take a more logical approach; common sense if you will. 

Firstly I would like to mention one argument someone makes against one who does not believe a conspiracy exists or wonders who is behind it. The answer is always "the government".  In all likely-hood, it always seems like the government is a very easy target to blame for everything. I mean come on, at the end of the day, it's them who determines how good of a life we live. So why the hell not blame a powerful institution that, at some degree, controls our lives? We can also blame them for not reaching a mystical "ice wall"! Which brings me to my second point.

An ice wall that circles the entire earth and keeps everything in side, just like a big bowl of soup, has never been reached to in the 21 century. Even though there's a plethora of technology and plenty of ways to travel the earth, there hasn't been anyone able to get solid evidence of an ice wall. Why? "LOL TEH GOVERNMENT SHOT THEM DOWN TO THA GROUND!" What government is doing this? What is there to hide? Why spend so much money to tell the people of earth that the planet they live on is a sphere? What is the motive of "the government"? In order to do something, you need an end result. I don't see what the government is winning here by telling us we live on a sphere, what are they gaining? What's in it for them? Why try to fool a world population of 6 billion people?

One question I have asked above annoys me the most. The lack of common sense is really sad. According to a FET believer, the government and NASA are working together to fool the population of earth. Where's the plural form of government? If it's a typo, (If not, and if you actually believe the United States government is the only one in on this, then that's just sad) why would the governments of 195 different countries, of different likes and dislikes, actually work together on this one thing and fool, let me say again, 6 billion people?

One would argue; its NASA. (Even though proof of a spherical can be made without going into space) The United States is one of the few countries that can actually send something high into the sky. Last time I checked, China is in space. They have satellites circling the moon and earth! Notice how after this happened, President Obama spoke publicly on how he wants the United States to get back in space? The competition in space is evident! So why believe we've never been? The SEB (Spherical Earth Believers) don't blindly follow, we see fact and reasoning, not strong denial! It's common sense that drives us to believe a spherical earth, not a blind theory!

You can come up with all of the most scientific "proofs" to try and convince yourself the earth is flat. Whatever it is FETists argue with: Bendy Light, It's magic that a sphere can be made without a "seeable" force, John Davis, James McIntyre or whatever. But there is NO solid proof, not a shred of it, on this conspiracy, the one excuse used by everyone who believes a flat earth. And don't bother saying financial gain, please, the lack of common sense in that is astounding. (If there was a huge financial gain from this conspiracy, why is the world's economy struggling? Or is that another conspiracy, oh goodness.)



"Denial is a powerful thing. You can tell someone that their hair is on fire and they wouldn't believe you."

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: If the world is flat

« on: September 19, 2009, 07:31:07 PM »

Light only travels one speed..300,000 Kilometers per hour.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Ice Wall Coverage

« on: September 18, 2009, 09:08:59 PM »

No that's just how God made it.

Oh goodness...God? Really?

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The Lounge / Re: Post an image of yourself!

« on: September 18, 2009, 06:20:42 PM »

I'm the one in the center. (Joker)

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The Lounge / Re: So I was walking down the street...

« on: September 18, 2009, 06:11:00 PM »

Okay, so I'm kidding. I do like you, you show promise as an entertaining member of the forum. But still, get with the times.

Need time to get with them!

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The Lounge / Re: So I was walking down the street...

« on: September 18, 2009, 06:01:57 PM »

Indeed I do. I don't drink coffee, so I would have gone with tea and a biscuit or something. Score!

Oh come on. We all know you have an inner desire for that woman.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Who are you?

« on: September 18, 2009, 05:59:34 PM »

I plan to have as many kids as I possibly can because each child is a blessing and the more flat earthers there are in the world, the better.

Ahh I see. You're going to shove ideas down your kids' throats instead of let them learn by themselves? Sounds familiar *cough*religion*cough*

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The Lounge / Re: So I was walking down the street...

« on: September 18, 2009, 05:54:07 PM »

And I found a dollar. It was an actual dollar too, which is sort of unusual seeing as how it's not our national currency over here. I picked it up, and contemplated for a moment how absurdly improbable it was that I had found this large gilded coin. I almost lol'd when I turned it around to see an embossed picture of a native American woman with the word LIBERTY stamped over it in bold lettering. So while I'm standing in the middle of the sidewalk obstructing traffic and looking like an idiot, I hear a voice shouting out "did you find my coin?" This was also in English, which I found rather odd. A girl who looked about my age approached me, and I asked "was it a silver dollar?" when she said yes I jokingly answered that this couldn't be hers since it wasn't silver. She laughed and looked strangely relieved as I gave her the coin back. Turns out she was a coin collector from the states, and that one was only minted for a year or so. I wished her good luck with the hunt for moar coinage, and went on my merry way. I still regret not asking her to have coffee with me or something. I wonder how her day was.

"Coffee". Hmmm..someone has other things on his mind.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Ice Wall Coverage

« on: September 18, 2009, 05:47:05 PM »

Mk..why doesn't the ice and snow melt?

Why would it?

And why would there be a random mountain range happening to circle to entire flat earth? The geography of the flat earth doesn't back up the idea of a mountain range.

Huh?

How can there be a mountain range perfectly circling the earth? Is there tectonic plates involved?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Ok ok, if the earth IS flat, then why...

« on: September 18, 2009, 05:46:01 PM »

are we being taught that the earth is a sphere? What's wrong with the myth of a flat earth being massively publicized?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Willing to thwart you

« on: September 18, 2009, 05:36:16 PM »

The launch is in early 2009

Problem 1.

Sarcasm doesn't seem to appeal.

Problem 1.

Mindlessly following a belief.

Problem 2.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Time Zones

« on: September 18, 2009, 05:34:29 PM »

Even if the earth is flat, how can the sun shine in one particular spot when it's 1,000,000 times larger than earth itself?

It's not.

Oh and you can prove this, can you Tom? If you can prove it without inferences drawn from the earth having to be flat, then I'll let you off. Otherwise, tune in next week for another episode of Bashing The Bishop.

Do you have any proof of your size claim?

There's much more evidence that the earth is a sphere than flat or disc or whatever you want to call it.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!

« on: September 18, 2009, 02:48:39 PM »

Nahh, that doesn't convince me - if that were the case the sailors would have realised that there was something odd going on as they'd have to be steering in the opposite direction in order to follow the Ice wall in the FE theory around the edge of the world.

Vivian Fuchs and his team crossed the Antarctica in 1958, if the Antarctica was merely a wall of ice, then this wouldn't have been possible, Vivian Fuchs and his team would have fallen of the edge of the world.

Lots of people get lost in deserts and snowstorms.

And lots of people don't.  What's your point?

Can you prove he crossed Antarctica?

You all are the ones trying to convince a world full of 6 billion people...most of which do believe the Earth is round, that it is not.  The burden of proof is on you.  If you provide none you all are nothing more than nutcase air bags, that just like to hear yourself talk.

Most people believe in God, yet the burden of proof is still on them to justify it. RET is no different than religion. It takes just as much faith to believe that the earth is a globe as it does to believe that God exists and Mary is His mother.

I see more of a connection between the believing in god and the FET. I mean come on, the people who wrote the damn bible were the ones who believed the earth was flat.
 

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Willing to thwart you

« on: September 18, 2009, 02:44:35 PM »

What's so true about this is most of these flat earth believers are the types of people who won't believe something until they see. Maybe they need the kick in the ass and be sent into space to see our spherical earth.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Ice Wall Coverage

« on: September 18, 2009, 02:43:09 PM »

The Ice Wall is a mountain range covered in ice and snow.

Mk..why doesn't the ice and snow melt? And why would there be a random mountain range happening to circle to entire flat earth? The geography of the flat earth doesn't back up the idea of a mountain range.