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I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« on: September 06, 2009, 06:47:57 AM »
I'm willing to be open-minded, but would you please explain :-

Man kind has sailed around the Antarctica, explain to me how this has been achieved if the Antarctica is as you say it is "a wall of ice"

 
 
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2009, 08:50:19 AM »
Thats just retarded!!  If the user  shiteatfan   is not removed then I'm out of here
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2009, 09:44:14 AM »
They're actually sailing around the edge of the world. I think...?
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2009, 11:32:53 AM »
Quote from: Round_Earth(No, flat) on September 06, 2009, 09:44:14 AM
They're actually sailing around the edge of the world. I think...?
Correct.
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lee_2009

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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2009, 01:51:41 PM »
Nahh, that doesn't convince me - if that were the case the sailors would have realised that there was something odd going on as they'd have to be steering in the opposite direction in order to follow the Ice wall in the FE theory around the edge of the world.

Vivian Fuchs and his team crossed the Antarctica in 1958, if the Antarctica was merely a wall of ice, then this wouldn't have been possible, Vivian Fuchs and his team would have fallen of the edge of the world.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2009, 02:32:22 PM »
Quote from: lee_2009 on September 06, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
Nahh, that doesn't convince me - if that were the case the sailors would have realised that there was something odd going on as they'd have to be steering in the opposite direction in order to follow the Ice wall in the FE theory around the edge of the world.

Vivian Fuchs and his team crossed the Antarctica in 1958, if the Antarctica was merely a wall of ice, then this wouldn't have been possible, Vivian Fuchs and his team would have fallen of the edge of the world.
Lots of people get lost in deserts and snowstorms.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2009, 02:46:30 PM »
Really he got lost is the best defense you have of this one?


Come on people give it up already.  Do something productive with your lives.  Read a book....study some science....HA.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2009, 04:56:42 PM »
Quote from: Johannes Kepler on September 06, 2009, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: lee_2009 on September 06, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
Nahh, that doesn't convince me - if that were the case the sailors would have realised that there was something odd going on as they'd have to be steering in the opposite direction in order to follow the Ice wall in the FE theory around the edge of the world.

Vivian Fuchs and his team crossed the Antarctica in 1958, if the Antarctica was merely a wall of ice, then this wouldn't have been possible, Vivian Fuchs and his team would have fallen of the edge of the world.
Lots of people get lost in deserts and snowstorms.
And lots of people don't.  What's your point?
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2009, 08:05:21 PM »
Quote from: markjo on September 06, 2009, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: Johannes Kepler on September 06, 2009, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: lee_2009 on September 06, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
Nahh, that doesn't convince me - if that were the case the sailors would have realised that there was something odd going on as they'd have to be steering in the opposite direction in order to follow the Ice wall in the FE theory around the edge of the world.

Vivian Fuchs and his team crossed the Antarctica in 1958, if the Antarctica was merely a wall of ice, then this wouldn't have been possible, Vivian Fuchs and his team would have fallen of the edge of the world.
Lots of people get lost in deserts and snowstorms.
And lots of people don't.  What's your point?

Can you prove he crossed Antarctica?
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2009, 08:12:49 PM »
Quote from: Abstainee on September 06, 2009, 08:05:21 PM
Quote from: markjo on September 06, 2009, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: Johannes Kepler on September 06, 2009, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: lee_2009 on September 06, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
Nahh, that doesn't convince me - if that were the case the sailors would have realised that there was something odd going on as they'd have to be steering in the opposite direction in order to follow the Ice wall in the FE theory around the edge of the world.

Vivian Fuchs and his team crossed the Antarctica in 1958, if the Antarctica was merely a wall of ice, then this wouldn't have been possible, Vivian Fuchs and his team would have fallen of the edge of the world.
Lots of people get lost in deserts and snowstorms.
And lots of people don't.  What's your point?

Can you prove he crossed Antarctica?

You all are the ones trying to convince a world full of 6 billion people...most of which do believe the Earth is round, that it is not.  The burden of proof is on you.  If you provide none you all are nothing more than nutcase air bags, that just like to hear yourself talk.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2009, 08:26:51 PM »
Quote from: Abstainee on September 06, 2009, 08:05:21 PM
Quote from: markjo on September 06, 2009, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: Johannes Kepler on September 06, 2009, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: lee_2009 on September 06, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
Nahh, that doesn't convince me - if that were the case the sailors would have realised that there was something odd going on as they'd have to be steering in the opposite direction in order to follow the Ice wall in the FE theory around the edge of the world.

Vivian Fuchs and his team crossed the Antarctica in 1958, if the Antarctica was merely a wall of ice, then this wouldn't have been possible, Vivian Fuchs and his team would have fallen of the edge of the world.
Lots of people get lost in deserts and snowstorms.
And lots of people don't.  What's your point?

Can you prove he crossed Antarctica?

Is there any such thing as evidence that cannot be faked and/or denied?  Can anyone prove anything to someone who chooses not to convinced?
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2009, 08:37:30 PM »
Quote from: bobofett on September 06, 2009, 08:12:49 PM
Quote from: Abstainee on September 06, 2009, 08:05:21 PM
Quote from: markjo on September 06, 2009, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: Johannes Kepler on September 06, 2009, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: lee_2009 on September 06, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
Nahh, that doesn't convince me - if that were the case the sailors would have realised that there was something odd going on as they'd have to be steering in the opposite direction in order to follow the Ice wall in the FE theory around the edge of the world.

Vivian Fuchs and his team crossed the Antarctica in 1958, if the Antarctica was merely a wall of ice, then this wouldn't have been possible, Vivian Fuchs and his team would have fallen of the edge of the world.
Lots of people get lost in deserts and snowstorms.
And lots of people don't.  What's your point?

Can you prove he crossed Antarctica?

You all are the ones trying to convince a world full of 6 billion people...most of which do believe the Earth is round, that it is not.  The burden of proof is on you.  If you provide none you all are nothing more than nutcase air bags, that just like to hear yourself talk.
Most people believe in God, yet the burden of proof is still on them to justify it. RET is no different than religion. It takes just as much faith to believe that the earth is a globe as it does to believe that God exists and Mary is His mother.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2009, 08:47:16 PM »
Quote from: Proleg on September 06, 2009, 08:37:30 PM
Quote from: bobofett on September 06, 2009, 08:12:49 PM
Quote from: Abstainee on September 06, 2009, 08:05:21 PM
Quote from: markjo on September 06, 2009, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: Johannes Kepler on September 06, 2009, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: lee_2009 on September 06, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
Nahh, that doesn't convince me - if that were the case the sailors would have realised that there was something odd going on as they'd have to be steering in the opposite direction in order to follow the Ice wall in the FE theory around the edge of the world.

Vivian Fuchs and his team crossed the Antarctica in 1958, if the Antarctica was merely a wall of ice, then this wouldn't have been possible, Vivian Fuchs and his team would have fallen of the edge of the world.
Lots of people get lost in deserts and snowstorms.
And lots of people don't.  What's your point?

Can you prove he crossed Antarctica?

You all are the ones trying to convince a world full of 6 billion people...most of which do believe the Earth is round, that it is not.  The burden of proof is on you.  If you provide none you all are nothing more than nutcase air bags, that just like to hear yourself talk.
Most people believe in God, yet the burden of proof is still on them to justify it. RET is no different than religion. It takes just as much faith to believe that the earth is a globe as it does to believe that God exists and Mary is His mother.

There is no evidence that God or Jesus or Mary or any of that crap ever existed.  Just like you all, religions can provide only stories, beliefs.  There is no empirical evidence, only what people feel more comfortable believing.  Mostly because they don't want to believe that when they die the lights just go out.

There is a mountain of evidence observed by people all over the world for countless years, which support the Earth being round.  Religion and the FE theory have no evidence a all!

So the burden of proof is indeed firmly on the FEers.  Especially since we have given the evidence of all of us being able to see the shape of ISS with our own eyes, and the Shuttle.  So where is your easily testable empirical evidence of that nature?
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2009, 08:49:20 PM »
bobafett, I honestly and sincerely believe that if you just read Earth Not a Globe you will see your issues with this site competently addressed.  We do have evidence the Earth is flat; it's REers without an ounce of tangible evidence that the Earth is round.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2009, 09:01:58 PM »
Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 06, 2009, 08:49:20 PM
bobafett, I honestly and sincerely believe that if you just read Earth Not a Globe you will see your issues with this site competently addressed.  We do have evidence the Earth is flat; it's REers without an ounce of tangible evidence that the Earth is round.

So then I see this site is for him.  Not sure if the guy is still alive or not...but this would be a brilliant marketing scheme to get out a book, and make some moola.  If he's dead it then kind of feels like you all are just worshiping the guy like L. Ron Hubbard.

You have one guy...ONE GUY.  A single human being that spewed some stuff out onto paper once, and you all are now taking that one thing as bible truth.  Do you go and buy the first car you see at the first dealership you go to?  Does he provide any empirical evidence?  Can I read the book online or somewhere for free.  Be happy to read it...I completely reject giving him or this cause one cent though.  So if I can read the text somewhere online...please direct me to it, and I'll be more than happy to read it.

If I have to spend money to read it, then you have basically convinced me that ultimately this is all about money.
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Proleg

Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2009, 09:04:19 PM »
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/

Free your mind, brother.
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bobofett

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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2009, 09:15:59 PM »
Quote from: Proleg on September 06, 2009, 09:04:19 PM
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/

Free your mind, brother.

Ok very cool thanks for the quick link.  I will indeed take a look over the next few days.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2009, 01:01:25 AM »
Quote from: Johannes Kepler on September 06, 2009, 11:32:53 AM
Quote from: Round_Earth(No, flat) on September 06, 2009, 09:44:14 AM
They're actually sailing around the edge of the world. I think...?
Correct.

wrong.

The earth is round; anyone who says otherwise delusional.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2009, 01:09:19 AM »
Quote from: mrsym0r on September 07, 2009, 01:01:25 AM
The earth is round; anyone who says otherwise delusional.

The Earth is flat; anyone who says otherwise is delusional.

See, I can spew unfounded dogma too!
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2009, 01:21:22 AM »
Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 06, 2009, 08:49:20 PM
bobafett, I honestly and sincerely believe that if you just read Earth Not a Globe you will see your issues with this site competently addressed.  We do have evidence the Earth is flat; it's REers without an ounce of tangible evidence that the Earth is round.

soooo... where is it?
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2009, 02:23:45 AM »
Quote from: Proleg on September 06, 2009, 09:04:19 PM
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/

Free your mind, brother.


Let A B represent the arc of water 6 miles long, and A C the line of sight. The point of contact with the arc would be at T, a distance of one mile from the observer at A.  From T to the bridge at B would be 5 miles, and the curvature from T to B would be 16 feet 8 inches. The top of the flag on the boat (which was 5 feet high) would have been 11 feet 8 inches below the horizon T, and altogether out of sight.

These two points are six statute miles apart.

Lets do some math: 5 statue mile = 8.04672 km - distance from T to B
And curvature:       16 feet 8 inches = 5.08 m

Let's do some math with Circle calculator: http://www.1728.com/circsect.htm
And we see that if we take 8 km of earh ( 6370 km radius ) the curvature is 1.25 m!
If we take 8 km and curvature of 5.08 m we see that earth has 1590 km diamater  !!!

So in the Expiriment 1 calculations are completely wrong !

Do some math Brother !
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2009, 11:27:31 AM »
Quote from: mrsym0r on September 07, 2009, 01:21:22 AM
Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 06, 2009, 08:49:20 PM
bobafett, I honestly and sincerely believe that if you just read Earth Not a Globe you will see your issues with this site competently addressed.  We do have evidence the Earth is flat; it's REers without an ounce of tangible evidence that the Earth is round.

soooo... where is it?

http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/
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Quote from: wise on August 21, 2018, 11:47:45 PM
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Turtles?Bah.

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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2009, 02:25:42 AM »
Though this thread was the first to convince me this board is only for laughs (making me feel pretty stupid), I still can't stop reading.

I said it before, but having people actually arguing that the Earth is round is one of the best social experiments I've ever seen!
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Quote from: Parsifal on September 21, 2009, 03:55:52 AM
The obvious flaw is that it's completely contrary to observation, and totally preposterous to even hypothesise about.
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2009, 04:05:52 PM »
Quote from: Turtles?Bah. on September 12, 2009, 02:25:42 AM
I said it before, but having people actually arguing that the Earth is round is one of the best social experiments I've ever seen!

Brainwashing is more than just an experiment. But yeah, it is pretty sad.
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If you say that the earth is flat, you are destroying centuries of evolution.
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2009, 09:34:52 AM »
Well than, in all fairness, what is it called when someone is led to believe the Earth is flat?
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2009, 10:46:02 AM »
Quote from: Turtles?Bah. on September 14, 2009, 09:34:52 AM
Well than, in all fairness, what is it called when someone is led to believe the Earth is flat?

Logic.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2009, 04:00:43 AM »
Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 06, 2009, 08:49:20 PM
bobafett, I honestly and sincerely believe that if you just read Earth Not a Globe you will see your issues with this site competently addressed.  We do have evidence the Earth is flat; it's REers without an ounce of tangible evidence that the Earth is round.

That's because you claim everything in that book is absolutely true with the persistence of a religious zealot and yet all the evidence the REers have found is either wrong or lied about. That's such an easy stance to take. REer's have all the proof and FEers have not a shred of tangible evidence. There. See? I just turned it right around on you. I mean honestly.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2009, 10:29:00 AM »
Quote from: Turtles?Bah. on September 15, 2009, 03:55:58 AM
Oh.



If I see any more of this, you'll be banned, whether you posted it before this message or not.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2009, 04:51:15 PM »
Quote from: HTD on September 15, 2009, 04:00:43 AM
Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 06, 2009, 08:49:20 PM
bobafett, I honestly and sincerely believe that if you just read Earth Not a Globe you will see your issues with this site competently addressed.  We do have evidence the Earth is flat; it's REers without an ounce of tangible evidence that the Earth is round.

That's because you claim everything in that book is absolutely true with the persistence of a religious zealot and yet all the evidence the REers have found is either wrong or lied about.

This is exactly the kind of vicious libel I would expect from a REer.  I make no such claim.  In fact, I have repeatedly stated that the only way anyone can be sure is to try the experiments in the book for himself.

It's the zetetic way to personally examine the evidence for oneself before drawing any conclusions.  That's why you REers and your pretty pictures that "prove" a RE have far more in common with religious zealotry than the typical FEer.
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Re: I still don't buy it that the earth is flat!
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2009, 07:02:18 PM »
Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 15, 2009, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: HTD on September 15, 2009, 04:00:43 AM
Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 06, 2009, 08:49:20 PM
bobafett, I honestly and sincerely believe that if you just read Earth Not a Globe you will see your issues with this site competently addressed.  We do have evidence the Earth is flat; it's REers without an ounce of tangible evidence that the Earth is round.

That's because you claim everything in that book is absolutely true with the persistence of a religious zealot and yet all the evidence the REers have found is either wrong or lied about.

This is exactly the kind of vicious libel I would expect from a REer.  I make no such claim.  In fact, I have repeatedly stated that the only way anyone can be sure is to try the experiments in the book for himself.

It's the zetetic way to personally examine the evidence for oneself before drawing any conclusions.  That's why you REers and your pretty pictures that "prove" a RE have far more in common with religious zealotry than the typical FEer.

"We have evidence". You said that. No libel there, deary. Did you try the experiments yourself?

Many RE scientists over many decades have tried and repeated experiments and all come to the same conclusion. No, I haven't personally done it all myself. And just because I haven't, you guys say that I don't know what I'm talking about then.

By that logic, you can not say you have evidence for sure unless you've done it yourself, correct?
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