How many people here have heard of this uncanny plan? I was unconvinced of its validity until I realized how easy it could become a reality, if Earth is indeed a flat plane. The need to create a fake space program becomes imperative in establishing the idea that we are but a speck in the universe. With this new outlook implemented in the mind of almost every person, it is much easier to accept the existence of aliens, especially now that we have "landed" on the moon ourselves. If we are actually inside of a type of enclosure, the "firmament", it would stand as an excellent screen for projecting everything from UFOs to the appearance of a godly being. It seems almost too perfect to be a coincidence to me.
How many people here have heard of this uncanny plan? I was unconvinced of its validity until I realized how easy it could become a reality, if Earth is indeed a flat plane. The need to create a fake space program becomes imperative in establishing the idea that we are but a speck in the universe. With this new outlook implemented in the mind of almost every person, it is much easier to accept the existence of aliens, especially now that we have "landed" on the moon ourselves. If we are actually inside of a type of enclosure, the "firmament", it would stand as an excellent screen for projecting everything from UFOs to the appearance of a godly being. It seems almost too perfect to be a coincidence to me.Just a pity for that theory that the idea that the earth was a Globe was pretty much settled around 2,500 years ago.
So Exactly how accurate was Biruni ?From Al-Biruni's Classic Experiment (http://hubpages.com/education/How-to-Determin-the-Radius-of-the-Earth-Al-Birunis-Classic-Experiment)
With his formula Biruni arrived at the value of the circumference of the earth within 200 miles of the actual value of 24,902 miles, that is less then 1% of error. Biruni's stated radius of 6336 km is also very close to the original value.
I believe their technology far exceeds our comprehension, and they have means of creating a realistic false image anywhere they please. If one believes they have the capacity to keep a secret such as the shape of our Earth, then why not instruments capable of deceiving the human eye flawlessly. Such technology would explain the appearances of the I.S.S. and satellites as well. They may be using the firmament itself as a projection point, or they may have the capacity to breach this barrier and project from the outside, although that is not likely the case.
There is a quote "History is written by the victors". I understand that it would be a fallacy to ignore all written history, but one must realize that if in fact we have been lied to all our lives, many other facets of our known reality may also be untruthful. Its funny that Rabinoz brings up the globular Earth being settled 2500 years ago, for that is around the same time the Freemasons were officially recognized, or so were told. Of course, their plans may not have included projection beams and aliens, but then again, they may have known more than we think.
If we indeed live in a totally convincing simulation of reality, which is created by some unknown power, that simulation is of a round Earth, since all the tests we throw at the 'simulation' tell us our Earth is round.
So even if we do live 'in the Matrix', that particular Matrix is a simulation of a round Earth, not a flat one.
I believe their technology far exceeds our comprehensionIt exceeds yours, that's for sure.
settled 2500 years ago, for that is around the same time the Freemasons were officially recognizedOfficially recognized? What does this even mean?
I did not say the Freemasons were active in Islamic cultures. I simply propose that they have written our history books, just as they have written into our minds that the earth is a globe. Another quote - "All that we are is a result of what we have thought". If one was able to control our thoughts, they would control who we are in essence. We do live in a controlled matrix, but instead of needing to fool all our senses, they need only to fool our minds. In the face of realizing, even if only on a subconscious level, what such a lie may mean, one goes into a state of denial. I call it Jack Sparrow Syndrome, in where, even if one was told the truth, one thinks that such a truth would never ever be told, so it must be false.
Apparently speaking the truth has become a null point. Using the cat scenario logic stated by Omega, someone could run around saying cats are not real and everyone would ignore him, even if in fact he was telling the truth. I find this humorous as this is most likely the case on this very forum. Is not the truth an important point? Would that not change your outlook on cats?
Apparently speaking the truth has become a null point. Using the cat scenario logic stated by Omega, someone could run around saying cats are not real and everyone would ignore him, even if in fact he was telling the truth. I find this humorous as this is most likely the case on this very forum. Is not the truth an important point? Would that not change your outlook on cats?
I've heard of it but usually from the UFO side, not flat earth. And there are pictures of the ISS in front of the sun which is impossible to fake using holograms and such.
I've heard of it but usually from the UFO side, not flat earth. And there are pictures of the ISS in front of the sun which is impossible to fake using holograms and such.
I don't doubt there is a space station...it is at low earth orbit, they can't get far enough away to take an actual picture of earth, but they get far enough away to fool the masses.
Who's arguing with "I don't doubt there is a space station...it is at low earth orbit"?I've heard of it but usually from the UFO side, not flat earth. And there are pictures of the ISS in front of the sun which is impossible to fake using holograms and such.
I don't doubt there is a space station...it is at low earth orbit, they can't get far enough away to take an actual picture of earth, but they get far enough away to fool the masses.
The only place I have ever seen "proof" of aglobeFLAT Earth was on the internet, which is a place known for disinformation and lies, just as has been stated by Rabinoz.
The lack of evidence elsewhere is evidence itself.
The only place I have ever seen "proof" of a globe Earth was on the internet or TV, both of which are places known for disinformation and lies, just as has been stated by Rabinoz. The lack of evidence elsewhere is evidence itself.Have you ever gone to the library? Or just out and observe and try to fit all observable phenomena to flat earth model? Or what are the other places where you can find "proof" about flat earth if not internet and TV only?
Are you paid to be here, Omega?
Which part of my statement did you find cool exactly?
The murder of innocent people?
That sounds accurate based on your rude language use with other posters on this site.
In addition, why do you deem it necessary to degrade people you deem unknowledgeable?
Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool arguing with him?
Whether I am right or wrong is irrelevant,
this post is merely for discussion of the topic at hand, which I believe to be serious.
Suppose I am wrong and it is no more than a silly idea, then it will become apparent in time and things continue to "spin".
On the flip side, if I am correct, and this topic is ignored, then it may be the last thing one ignores.
Let me sum up NASA's Project Blue Beam, for those who do not wish to look it up.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
NASA's Project Blue Beam
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The Big Space Show in the Sky
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These computers were fed, as well, with the languages of all human cultures and their meanings. The dialects of all cultures of all cultures have been fed into the computers from satellite transmissions. The Soviets began to feed the computers with objective programs like the ones of the new messiah. It also seems that the Soviets - the new world order people - have resorted to suicidal methods with the human society by allocating electronic wavelengths for every person and every society and culture to induce suicidal thoughts if the person doesn't comply with the dictates of the new world order.
There are two different aspects of step two.
The first is the 'space show.' Where does the space show come from? The space show, the holographic images will be used in a simulation of the ending during which all nations will be shown scenes that will be the fulfillment of that which they desire to verify the prophecies and adversary events.
These will be projected from satellites onto the sodium layer about 60 miles above the earth. We see tests every once in a while, but they are called UFOs and "flying saucers" sightings.
Let me sum up NASA's Project Blue Beam, for those who do not wish to look it up.
Step one is to eliminate all known religions by creating evidence that our interpretations of scriptures is entirely wrong. Stonehenge will be found to have massive underground chambers revealing the "true" nature of our holy scriptures. Other ancient monuments and locations may have similar hoaxed findings.
Step two is to stage an apocalyptic scenario, where God or gods are artificially displayed upon the heavens. Many may take such an occurrence as the end times, for most spiritual books state some kind of "return of the creator".
Step three is to broadcast radio signals that cause extreme depression, clouded thoughts, and overall sick feelings. This technology is already in the hands of some militaries.
Step four is to convince the Earths population that an alien invasion is about to happen, most likely using the same technology implemented to stage the return of God or gods. Of course the invasion will never proceed, as a second human-loving alien race will appear to save the day, but only if human kind submits to them and follows their ideals. With utter destruction as man kinds only alternative, our fates becomes sealed.
In the wake of such an event, creating a totalitarian new world order, and exterminating those who think otherwise would become simple.
Also I changed one word from the original Star Wars quote. I would say following, but Omega is not following me physically or otherwise. I would hardly call that mangled, since the concept is the same.
Wow, I am glad someone finally asked.
After a while, I thought no one was putting the pieces together.
Kindly direct your attention to this quote posted by Rabinoz.
Einstein - “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
Upon close inspection with a flat Earth viewpoint, one wonders if he was being literal in that statement.
Perhaps he knew about the limitations of our true reality, inside of an enclosed barrier.
In short, I am here because I feel like I have been lied to, I simply seek truth.
Now, suppose Serge simply did not know the entire truth, and his understanding of "satellite" was skewed.
They may have been no different than a normal radio transmission, only, bounced off the firmament, to a dish.
In fact, I seem to recall people bouncing radio waves off the moon; perhaps its just our enclosure...
Maybe he was engulfed in the same lie most of our world is, oblivious to the truth.
Everything else he states is quite explained, and viable to become a reality.
Lunar Distance, RadarFrom Lunar distance (astronomy) Radar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_distance_(astronomy)#Radar)
An experiment was conducted in 1957 at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory that used the echo from radar signals to determine the Earth-Moon distance. Radar pulses lasting 2 µs were broadcast from a 50 ft diameter radio dish. After the radio waves echoed off the surface of the Moon, the return signal was detected and the delay time measured. From that measurement, the distance could be calculated. In practice, however, the signal-to-noise ratio was so low that an accurate measurement could not be reliably produced.
The experiment was repeated in 1958 at the Royal Radar Establishment, in England. Radar pulses lasting 5 µs were transmitted with a peak power of 2 megawatts, at a repetition rate of 260 pulses per second. After the radio waves echoed off the surface of the Moon, the return signal was detected and the delay time measured. Multiple signals were added together to obtain a reliable signal by superimposing oscilloscope traces onto photographic film. From the measurements, the distance was calculated with an uncertainty of 1.25 km.
These initial experiments were intended to be proof-of-concept experiments and only lasted one day. Follow-on experiments lasting one month produced a mean value of 384402±1.2 km, which was the most accurate measurement of the lunar distance at the time.
Lunar Laser Ranging experiment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
The first successful tests were carried out in 1962 when a team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing laser pulses reflected from moon's surface using a laser with a millisecond pulse length. Similar measurements were obtained later the same year by a Soviet team at the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory using a Q-switched ruby laser. Greater accuracy was achieved following the installation of a retroreflector array on July 21, 1969, by the crew of Apollo 11, and two more retroreflector arrays left by the Apollo 14 and Apollo 15 missions have also contributed to the experiment. Successful lunar laser range measurements to the retroreflectors were first reported by the 3.1 m telescope at Lick Observatory, Air Force Cambridge Research Laboratories Lunar Ranging Observatory in Arizona, the Pic du Midi Observatory in France, the Tokyo Astronomical Observatory, and McDonald Observatory in Texas.
To See the Unseen, - Chapter Two - Fickle VenusFrom: SP-4218 To See the Unseen, Chapter Two - Fickle Venus (http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4218/ch2.htm), full document: SP-4218 To See the Unseen. (http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4218/sp4218.htm)
On 10 March 1961, a month before inferior conjunction, the Goldstone radars were pointed at Venus. The first signals completed the round-trip of 113 million kilometers in about six and a half minutes. During the 68 seconds of electronic signal integration time, 1 of 7 recording styluses on Goldstein's instrument deviated significantly from its zero level and remained at the new level.
Let me sum up NASA's Project Blue Beam, for those who do not wish to look it up.
Step one is to eliminate all known religions by creating evidence that our interpretations of scriptures is entirely wrong.
Stonehenge will be found to have massive underground chambers revealing the "true" nature of our holy scriptures.
Other ancient monuments and locations may have similar hoaxed findings.Again: simple question, HOW DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE NOT YEY HAPPENED?
Step two is to stage an apocalyptic scenario, where God or gods are artificially displayed upon the heavens. Many may take such an occurrence as the end times, for most spiritual books state some kind of "return of the creator".
Step three is to broadcast radio signals that cause extreme depression, clouded thoughts, and overall sick feelings. This technology is already in the hands of some militaries.
Step four is to convince the Earths population that an alien invasion is about to happen, most likely using the same technology implemented to stage the return of God or gods. Of course the invasion will never proceed, as a second human-loving alien race will appear to save the day, but only if human kind submits to them and follows their ideals. With utter destruction as man kinds only alternative, our fates becomes sealed.
In the wake of such an event, creating a totalitarian new world order, and exterminating those who think otherwise would become simple.
Also I changed one word from the original Star Wars quote. I would say following, but Omega is not following me physically or otherwise. I would hardly call that mangled, since the concept is the same.
WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/15320/20140912/stonehenge-secret-exposed-by-hi-tech-underground-scanning-vast-complex-of-archaeological-monuments-discovered.htm
WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/15320/20140912/stonehenge-secret-exposed-by-hi-tech-underground-scanning-vast-complex-of-archaeological-monuments-discovered.htm
"This project has revealed that the area around Stonehenge is teeming with previously unseen archaeology and that the application of new technology can transform how archaeologists and the wider public understand one of the best-studied landscapes on Earth," Vincent Gaffney, of the University of Birmingham, said.
I did not know that the University of Birmingham upheld those who told lies...
How would that be any different than blindly following school textbooks and NASA videos?
How would that be any different than blindly following school textbooks and NASA videos?
Perception of our reality can change ones thought process.
Why wont you answer mine?
After all, I asked them first, and have mostly been ridiculed and mocked.
Keep in mind, some of your answers are in the text I have previously posted, others, you have answered yourself.
Exactly why some wish to ignore this truth comes down to the factor of fear, I think.
Unless one wishes to ignore it and simply confuse others.
Perception of our reality can change ones thought process.
I have a feeling like no matter what I say to that, you will only repeat it over and over again.
I have a feeling like no matter what I say to that, you will only repeat it over and over again.
Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!Well put.
I have a feeling like no matter what I say to that, you will only repeat it over and over again.The average globularist resorts far too often on their cantrip phrases when confronted with the truth. Over and over again they will say incoherent phrases to save themselves the trouble of realizing what they know is wrong.
Your logic is invalid, as text and NASA videos are exactly what I blindly followed.
Even the sun setting in an irregular fashion is explained through an imperfect solar loop.
Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!
Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!Well put.I have a feeling like no matter what I say to that, you will only repeat it over and over again.The average globularist resorts far too often on their cantrip phrases when confronted with the truth. Over and over again they will say incoherent phrases to save themselves the trouble of realizing what they know is wrong.
Your logic is invalid, as text and NASA videos are exactly what I blindly followed.
Even the sun setting in an irregular fashion is explained through an imperfect solar loop.
Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!
I assure you that this does not make me feel cool.
The ONLY reason I "know" Earth is a sphere is through the same sources I know about Blue Beam.
I would answer any pertinent questions, had you asked any.
So that brings me to the point that you still consistently make light of plans to murder.
Really, I find it disturbing; you dodge any point I make, when only trying to be serious.
Exactly why must you respond if you believe what you say?
As far as I'm concerned, you just want me to stop posting.
Logic brought me to that conclusion, unlike some globe theories.
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Even the sun setting in an irregular fashion is explained through an imperfect solar loop.
Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!
Well, I believe Aliveandkicking can answer both of your questions, if you just read previous posts.
As for the flat earth model, you obviously have not done one second of sleuthing.
Keep in mind, just as the oblate spherical pear shaped globe model has its own discrepancies,
Even so do the flat earth models floating about.
Unless I am mistaken, name calling is not scientific. - (directed at Omega)
Please stop it, unless you meant to spell lier, because yes, I lay down sometimes, but no I do not tell lies.
Well, I believe Aliveandkicking can answer both of your questions, if you just read previous posts.Your so-called "oblate spherical pear shaped globe" happens to have
As for the flat earth model, you obviously have not done one second of sleuthing.
Keep in mind, just as the oblate spherical pear shaped globe model has its own discrepancies,
Even so do the flat earth models floating about.
Where exactly in your equation do you define the globe is wider at the south than the north.
Actually, what exactly do you define as a "polar circumference"? Is there not two poles?
Keeping balance in an equation means one must include all factors, so why not two "polar" circumferences?
Even wikipedia says Geodesy cant decide what Earth looks like.
Unless they are lying...
Please, no! Wikipedia cant lie!
Taken from "The Figure Of Earth" Wikipedia Page
"Modern geodesy tends to retain the ellipsoid of revolution and treat triaxiality and pear shape as a part of the geoid figure: they are represented by the spherical harmonic coefficients [(INSERT RIDICULOUS NUMBERS HERE)] respectively, corresponding to degree and order numbers 2.2 for the triaxiality and 3.0 for the pear shape."
I would have included the number in the parenthesis, but my computer did not recognize them...
Check it out for yourself, its under "Complicated Shapes" Yup, to make sure no one understands it but doesn't care.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth
<Compelling evidence of a pear shaped Earth.
Where exactly in your equation do you define the globe is wider at the south than the north.
Actually, what exactly do you define as a "polar circumference"? Is there not two poles?
Keeping balance in an equation means one must include all factors, so why not two "polar" circumferences?
Even wikipedia says Geodesy cant decide what Earth looks like.
Unless they are lying...
Please, no! Wikipedia cant lie!
Taken from "The Figure Of Earth" Wikipedia Page
"Modern geodesy tends to retain the ellipsoid of revolution and treat triaxiality and pear shape as a part of the geoid figure: they are represented by the spherical harmonic coefficients [(INSERT RIDICULOUS NUMBERS HERE)] respectively, corresponding to degree and order numbers 2.2 for the triaxiality and 3.0 for the pear shape."
I would have included the number in the parenthesis, but my computer did not recognize them...
Check it out for yourself, its under "Complicated Shapes" Yup, to make sure no one understands it but doesn't care.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth
<Compelling evidence of a pear shaped Earth.
Dude, the Earth is an oblate spheroid. It's slightly wider than it is high. The distortion is so slight that pictures just show a sphere.
You can cherry pick all you like, but you have decided to stop reading/listening the moment you got what you wanted.
Oh and STILL no evidence for, what was it now? Project Blue Balls?
Omega, please explain this video.
PS. this is what "cheap" technology can already do at some mall in Dubai. Now, imagine what classified technology could do.
A lot of our technology is first developed for military purposes (satellites, internet, night vision, etc...), until it reaches a level of obsolescence and is finally used for civilian purposes.
And before you tell me chem trails are a fantasy, and that it's not government sponsored, watch the head of CIA admitting it's real.Talking about a possible remedy for a problem not everyone agrees exists is not proof it is happening.
please explain this video.
Wow, show me a mountain range that can cast a shadow like that.
Actually, please, tell me more about how a shadow can make something vanish during the day.
Keep your eye on the planes in the video, and once they pass that that line they disappear.
Everything you about clockwise and counterclockwise makes no sense whatsoever.
Unless Im mistaken, that line went above and behind the viewers perspective.
Prove to me, even if a shadow from some mountain range "covered" the planes, how that line could appear naturally.
It actually seems to be my first guess: the shadow of the Earth on the atmosphere.
It cannot just be the earths shadow in the usual way you see it because in those cases the shadow is at right angles to the sun and moves fairly quickly as viewed from beneath the shadow. That shadows edge only rotates about 10 degrees in three minutes, and is more or less at 0 degrees to the Sun..
I think it is a shadow though. It could be created by clouds or by a solid obstacle like a mountain or plateau
https://www.metabunk.org/strange-straight-line-in-the-sky.t7873/
"Yes, looks like a crepuscular/anticrepuscular ray (they're essentially the same thing, just depends which way you are facing!)."
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/46cb82a95de3aa3a65913eb9a08984ec.jpg)
Wow, ooh ahh, more photos from NASA minions.
Always trying to explain things they cannot with pictures that prove nothing.
Keeping the real truth shrouded in doubt; Post as many pictures as they can to cover it up and keep you guessing.
Ever wonder why they do not touch on the subject of the planes visually vanishing?
Until they can explain that, I am unconvinced.
Please note, Omega even tried to account the line anomaly to the shadow of the earth... during the day...
Ever wonder why they do not touch on the subject of the planes visually vanishing?
Wow, ooh ahh, more photos from NASA minions.
Always trying to explain things they cannot with pictures that prove nothing.
Keeping the real truth shrouded in doubt; Post as many pictures as they can to cover it up and keep you guessing.
Ever wonder why they do not touch on the subject of the planes visually vanishing?
Until they can explain that, I am unconvinced.
Please note, Omega even tried to account the line anomaly to the shadow of the earth... during the day...
Mate if you shine a light on something you can notice it very much more easily. If you turn the light out it is much harder to see.
Much harder to see is not invisible.
Also, one side has a lot of clouds, the other has none whatsoever!
Think about it, this has to be a man made phenomenon.
Every natural explanation does not fit the circumstances.
Check the very end of the video and one will see another white object poof into existence. Right next to the line.Strawman much? Who said anything about swamp gas or magnetic anomalies? Why should the shadow move in a short video?
Heck, I apologize about the cloud statement.
Even though that does prove it is a shadow as the differences in colors are minimal, and it does not move at all!
Clearly something is amiss.
Kindly explain how swamp gas or a magnetic anomaly created this illusion.
Ever wonder why they do not touch on the subject of the planes visually vanishing?
I did not realize that the sun pauses for about 4 minutes a day, causing static shadows across the "globe".
Much harder to see is not invisible.
Also, one side has a lot of clouds, the other has none whatsoever!
Think about it, this has to be a man made phenomenon.
Every natural explanation does not fit the circumstances.
The number of "mental health specialists" on the board will soon outnumber "astronauts" and "physics teachers". ::)
Puerile.
The number of "mental health specialists" on the board will soon outnumber "astronauts" and "physics teachers". ::)
Puerile.
The number of "mental health specialists" on the board will soon outnumber "astronauts" and "physics teachers". ::)Hey you're just pretending - N30 has disappeared down the rabbit hole....
Puerile.
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Looks pretty much the same to me but, please, do go on about cognitive dissonance.
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Looks pretty much the same to me but, please, do go on about cognitive dissonance.
Fixed that for you:
(http://i.imgur.com/2nDSGoG.png)
Rotated and enhanced the contrast.
(http://i.imgur.com/fyEJXr7.png)
I am supposing that is early morning. It is quite dark on the ground.
The video seems real but it could be a spoof by somebody who is familiar with the region who is filming this real event.
You can see at the beginning of the video the shadow is rotated slightly clockwise compared to at the end when it is slightly anticlockwise. Presumably you could calculate how far away the mountain range using that change. The shadow seems to be moving in the correct direction for it being a shadow where the sun is moving to the right in the northern hemisphere. Sun goes right shadow moves left.
I am supposing that is early morning. It is quite dark on the ground.
The video seems real but it could be a spoof by somebody who is familiar with the region who is filming this real event.
You can see at the beginning of the video the shadow is rotated slightly clockwise compared to at the end when it is slightly anticlockwise. Presumably you could calculate how far away the mountain range using that change. The shadow seems to be moving in the correct direction for it being a shadow where the sun is moving to the right in the northern hemisphere. Sun goes right shadow moves left.
WOW! I cant believe what i'm seeing.
Actually the argument was that the line stayed vertical throughout the video!
Proving it is not capable of being the shadow of the sun!
So, Omegas first post proved my point, then he just crops and rotates the image to claim rotation??
I am supposing that is early morning. It is quite dark on the ground.
The video seems real but it could be a spoof by somebody who is familiar with the region who is filming this real event.
You can see at the beginning of the video the shadow is rotated slightly clockwise compared to at the end when it is slightly anticlockwise. Presumably you could calculate how far away the mountain range using that change. The shadow seems to be moving in the correct direction for it being a shadow where the sun is moving to the right in the northern hemisphere. Sun goes right shadow moves left.
WOW! I cant believe what i'm seeing.
Actually the argument was that the line stayed vertical throughout the video!
Proving it is not capable of being the shadow of the sun!
So, Omegas first post proved my point, then he just crops and rotates the image to claim rotation??
"If you look at the frame holding the traffic signs the video begins with the line going to the right as it moves upwards away from the traffic sign frame." -
"If you look at the frame holding the traffic signs the video begins with the line going to the right as it moves upwards away from the traffic sign frame." -
What does a line moving "upwards away" even mean...?
"If you look at the frame holding the traffic signs the video begins with the line going to the right as it moves upwards away from the traffic sign frame." -
What does a line moving "upwards away" even mean...?
"If you look at the frame holding the traffic signs the video begins with the line going to the right as it moves upwards away from the traffic sign frame." -
What does a line moving "upwards away" even mean...?
Please, PLEASE answer my very simple question:
Why do you assume this video shows anything unnatural?
I think this thread, as with most conspiracy threads on the site, misses the point entirelly, and by a mile. The question is:
-What is Project Blue Beam?
and
-How do we know its real?
I'd like those questions answered
I've skimmed through the thread, but I'd rather hear it from the horse's mouth.
Does anyone not see the issue here???
We are discussing a hologram sky......I mean in Texas we have rolling black outs that happen from too many A.C.s running. Yet a project that would take 100s of megawatts of extra power to pull of (assuming we have the tech to do it which I doubt), the grid would have enough power to spare??
I mean this has to stop somewhere......this is coming from someone whom is not for mainstream thinking in many situations.
But I mean seriously....I thought I had heard alot when I read here dinosaurs made in china, the ISS is a gulf stream (which I suppose is very remotely plausible), and the earth is flat. But now our whole freaking sky is a hologram....
I really am beginning to think the paid shills are people whom start this horse shit. Completely destroys credibility to actual issues that are being covered up. Such easy ammo for dismissal no matter how strong the case. I have said this many times mostly joking, I am starting to wonder if there is any sort of truth to it the more I see.
Does anyone not see the issue here???
We are discussing a hologram sky......I mean in Texas we have rolling black outs that happen from too many A.C.s running. Yet a project that would take 100s of megawatts of extra power to pull of (assuming we have the tech to do it which I doubt), the grid would have enough power to spare??
I mean this has to stop somewhere......this is coming from someone whom is not for mainstream thinking in many situations.
But I mean seriously....I thought I had heard alot when I read here dinosaurs made in china, the ISS is a gulf stream (which I suppose is very remotely plausible), and the earth is flat. But now our whole freaking sky is a hologram....
I really am beginning to think the paid shills are people whom start this horse shit. Completely destroys credibility to actual issues that are being covered up. Such easy ammo for dismissal no matter how strong the case. I have said this many times mostly joking, I am starting to wonder if there is any sort of truth to it the more I see.
I'm sure the believers of Project Blue Balls will say 'They' have secret power sources that they keep hidden.
Does anyone not see the issue here???
We are discussing a hologram sky......I mean in Texas we have rolling black outs that happen from too many A.C.s running. Yet a project that would take 100s of megawatts of extra power to pull of (assuming we have the tech to do it which I doubt), the grid would have enough power to spare??
I'm sure the believers of Project Blue Balls will say 'They' have secret power sources that they keep hidden.QuoteI mean this has to stop somewhere......this is coming from someone whom is not for mainstream thinking in many situations.
Are you saying what I think you're saying?QuoteBut I mean seriously....I thought I had heard alot when I read here dinosaurs made in china, the ISS is a gulf stream (which I suppose is very remotely plausible), and the earth is flat. But now our whole freaking sky is a hologram....
I really am beginning to think the paid shills are people whom start this horse shit. Completely destroys credibility to actual issues that are being covered up. Such easy ammo for dismissal no matter how strong the case. I have said this many times mostly joking, I am starting to wonder if there is any sort of truth to it the more I see.
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.
You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...
I'm sure the believers of Project Blue Balls will say 'They' have secret power sources that they keep hidden.
I guess they have tapped to the UA power source.
Flat earth as psy ops is common sense. You and I are now doing the work of the guys who used to hang around on the knowledge based forums ensuring only official history was propagated. Those guys do not need to be there because we are here.
Additionally the really crazy can be monitored by creating something really crazy and attracting them so they can be identified.
Although it is tough to tell, I think you are being condescending here...
I don't see why that would be hard to believe.
There are actually conspiracies, the government and people in power are not our friends, they don't have our interest in their heart, and if it meant advancing their cause we are more expendable than cow manure.
The biggest and easiest weapon used again alternative thinking is discrediting the people and ideas to mainstream so nothing can blossum.
What would be a better tactic than releasing some bafoons to either act insane, or say the absolute dumbest dribble imagined?
That way there is always endless supply of material to draw from so ignorance can be easily shown. "Oh just those crazy conspiracy theorist at it again, now take your pill and listen to what we tell you".....I don't see this as a stretch at all.
Completely shuts down all legitimacy to mainstream when there is actual evidence and Merit with ease.
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.
You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.
You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...
We all know the brits and yanks conspired to get into iraq. We all should know the brits and americans killed the prime minister of Iran because he nationalised an oil company.
Then there is some tool or agent ridiculing people who say there are conspiracies at the highest level like we were all born yesterday.
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.
You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...
We all know the brits and yanks conspired to get into iraq. We all should know the brits and americans killed the prime minister of Iran because he nationalised an oil company.
Then there is some tool or agent ridiculing people who say there are conspiracies at the highest level like we were all born yesterday.
I find it rather difficult to get from 'governments lie' to 'and therefor there is an international conspiracy which uses holographic projectors to fake the second coming of Christ and an alien invasion to take over the world' without dying of laughter.
The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything.
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.
You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...
We all know the brits and yanks conspired to get into iraq. We all should know the brits and americans killed the prime minister of Iran because he nationalised an oil company.
Then there is some tool or agent ridiculing people who say there are conspiracies at the highest level like we were all born yesterday.
I find it rather difficult to get from 'governments lie' to 'and therefor there is an international conspiracy which uses holographic projectors to fake the second coming of Christ and an alien invasion to take over the world' without dying of laughter.
The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything.
Sure but you were the one making condescending remarks about conspiracies
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.
You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...
We all know the brits and yanks conspired to get into iraq. We all should know the brits and americans killed the prime minister of Iran because he nationalised an oil company.
Then there is some tool or agent ridiculing people who say there are conspiracies at the highest level like we were all born yesterday.
I find it rather difficult to get from 'governments lie' to 'and therefor there is an international conspiracy which uses holographic projectors to fake the second coming of Christ and an alien invasion to take over the world' without dying of laughter.
The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything.
Sure but you were the one making condescending remarks about conspiracies
And I stand by them, my young friend.
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.
You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...
We all know the brits and yanks conspired to get into iraq. We all should know the brits and americans killed the prime minister of Iran because he nationalised an oil company.
Then there is some tool or agent ridiculing people who say there are conspiracies at the highest level like we were all born yesterday.
I find it rather difficult to get from 'governments lie' to 'and therefor there is an international conspiracy which uses holographic projectors to fake the second coming of Christ and an alien invasion to take over the world' without dying of laughter.
The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything.
Sure but you were the one making condescending remarks about conspiracies
And I stand by them, my young friend.
Are you really so geriatric?
Although it is tough to tell, I think you are being condescending here...
Extremely condescending. And I don't mind explaining that to you. You have a lot to learn.QuoteI don't see why that would be hard to believe.
*alarm bells going off*QuoteThere are actually conspiracies, the government and people in power are not our friends, they don't have our interest in their heart, and if it meant advancing their cause we are more expendable than cow manure.
I'd say that depends on the government. And I'd say: show me proof of specific conspiracies before you hand-wave and make vague statements about non-descript dark forces doing untold things.QuoteThe biggest and easiest weapon used again alternative thinking is discrediting the people and ideas to mainstream so nothing can blossum.
First: citation needed.
Second: if someone can prove their claim, it's not 'alternative thinking'. It's 'proving something exists'. If you can't prove a conspiracy exists, it's madness to believe in it. Hiding behind "yeah, well I am an alternative thinker" without providing any evidence of your thinking, does not give you more credibility but less.QuoteWhat would be a better tactic than releasing some bafoons to either act insane, or say the absolute dumbest dribble imagined?
A tactic for what? To hide another conspiracy of which we know nothing and for which we also have no evidence?QuoteThat way there is always endless supply of material to draw from so ignorance can be easily shown. "Oh just those crazy conspiracy theorist at it again, now take your pill and listen to what we tell you".....I don't see this as a stretch at all.
Ever heard of Woodward and Bernstein? They discovered an actual conspiracy. And they proved it existed. Nobody called them crazy.
All you have to do to be taken seriously, is provide evidence.QuoteCompletely shuts down all legitimacy to mainstream when there is actual evidence and Merit with ease.
Show me the evidence!
I have a reporter from the New York Times on speed-dial.
Show me the evidence!
I have a reporter from the New York Times on speed-dial.
Ah...I see, you are one of those types.
I am sure any type of conversing with you will be a waste on anything other than mainstream ideology.
I will attempt just a hair though see where it goes.
Though if your head is in the sand so much to think the government is our friends
, then I really think this is useless. As that is the easiest thing to prove out of all I said.
I don't have proof of these shills, nor did I ever say I did.
I just said seeing actions of some people makes me wonder.
Never stated for a fact. Just looked at the means and motive, it's not far fetched if true. Plus would be a quality tactic if it is true. This is just viewing it from a simple warfare point of view if it were true, not rocket science. Don't even need to think outside the box to understand that.
I also do not hide behind anything, I am typically a neutral thinker. There are only a few conspiracies I went after and acted against, ones that had solid evidence, means and motive. Everything else, I just listen and keep my eyes open until it either falls apart or proven. I am usually the one that says the truth is in the middle somewhere. I just always keep an open mind.
So let's calm down with the assumptions and attempted cheeky low brow insults, they are not a good look for you.
As for actual conspiracies or lies....9/11 and the multiple wars that followed (speaking from an American point of view, I do not know enough about foreign affairs to say 100 percent about some of their "conspiracies")
Oh and as for the media demonizing any form of freedom of thought by using the most insane quacks as examples happens often just watch the news. Also happens on TV and movies. Not rocket science to find such a thing
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I tried to do that with you when you posted videos of feathers falling at different speeds to other objects, when from my point of view you appeared to be totally blind.
If you can show me you are able to be corrected I will see you in a different light.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I tried to do that with you when you posted videos of feathers falling at different speeds to other objects, when from my point of view you appeared to be totally blind.
If you can show me you are able to be corrected I will see you in a different light.
My point has always been that in a vacuum, feathers fall at the same speed as bowling balls.
If that's not what you mean, I am honestly at a loss here.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I tried to do that with you when you posted videos of feathers falling at different speeds to other objects, when from my point of view you appeared to be totally blind.
If you can show me you are able to be corrected I will see you in a different light.
My point has always been that in a vacuum, feathers fall at the same speed as bowling balls.
If that's not what you mean, I am honestly at a loss here.
You kept claiming you could tell what speed objects were falling.
You produced at least one video where the claimed result did not happen.
You kept claiming you could tell what speed objects were falling.
You kept claiming you could tell what speed objects were falling.
I guess it was similar with me but I didn't claim that I can measure the speed of objects but that I can distinguish if one object reaches endpoint sooner than other. Only you was unable to understand that.
I said that I can make out with eyes which object reaches endpoint first, you kept pushing why I say that I can measure speed with eyes. I didn't get that.You kept claiming you could tell what speed objects were falling.
I guess it was similar with me but I didn't claim that I can measure the speed of objects but that I can distinguish if one object reaches endpoint sooner than other. Only you was unable to understand that.
The point I was making was that I am considering myself an impartial observer. I am not going to take sides here even if it means other people think I am a flat earther or stupid or whatever. It was interesting to see how much hate I got from some people for daring to question what they had said. I cannot remember what we were saying though.
Aliveandkicking - "I cannot remember what we were saying though."
Omega - "The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything."
Your ability to direct a conversation away from its original topic is astounding.
Exactly when did we start talking about the "vacuum of space"?
Seriously, we were talking about a plan the Government has to control the populace through violence and fear.
Where does a bowling ball falling faster than a feather fit in to discussing this topic?
How does it even remotely relate to the video that so fervently speaks that there is truth in such a plan!!
One must realize that apparently, a sudden case of amnesia is the answer from these NASA minions.QuoteAliveandkicking - "I cannot remember what we were saying though."QuoteOmega - "The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything."
I beg to differ, Omega, I really do.
Where does a bowling ball falling faster than a feather fit in to discussing this topic?
Your ability to direct a conversation away from its original topic is astounding.
Exactly when did we start talking about the "vacuum of space"?
Seriously, we were talking about a plan the Government has to control the populace through violence and fear.
Where does a bowling ball falling faster than a feather fit in to discussing this topic?
How does it even remotely relate to the video that so fervently speaks that there is truth in such a plan!!
One must realize that apparently, a sudden case of amnesia is the answer from these NASA minions.QuoteAliveandkicking - "I cannot remember what we were saying though."QuoteOmega - "The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything."
I beg to differ, Omega, I really do.
N30, cite a source for your conspiracy.
Show me the evidence!
I have a reporter from the New York Times on speed-dial.
Ah...I see, you are one of those types.
Yeah, I'm one of those pesky people who likes evidence for outrageous claims.QuoteI am sure any type of conversing with you will be a waste on anything other than mainstream ideology.
I don't give a darn thing about things being 'mainstream'. I like to see evidence for claims. That's, in fact, not at all mainstream. Look at how many people believe Donald Trump. *That* is mainstream: swallowing lies because they 'feel right'.QuoteI will attempt just a hair though see where it goes.
And you call me condescending ;D.QuoteThough if your head is in the sand so much to think the government is our friends
Never said that.Quote, then I really think this is useless. As that is the easiest thing to prove out of all I said.
Again: never said that governments (there are more than one, you know. There are more countries) are inherently trustworthy. I just don't think they are inherently evil either.QuoteI don't have proof of these shills, nor did I ever say I did.
If you don't have proof, why call them shills?QuoteI just said seeing actions of some people makes me wonder.
Hate to be a bother, but: what actions? What do you wonder?QuoteNever stated for a fact. Just looked at the means and motive, it's not far fetched if true. Plus would be a quality tactic if it is true. This is just viewing it from a simple warfare point of view if it were true, not rocket science. Don't even need to think outside the box to understand that.
So... You're just asking questions (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions)...QuoteI also do not hide behind anything, I am typically a neutral thinker. There are only a few conspiracies I went after and acted against, ones that had solid evidence, means and motive. Everything else, I just listen and keep my eyes open until it either falls apart or proven. I am usually the one that says the truth is in the middle somewhere. I just always keep an open mind.
Keeping an open mind is not the same as suspecting conspiracies without proof. Keeping an open mind is asking for evidence before accepting a claim.QuoteSo let's calm down with the assumptions and attempted cheeky low brow insults, they are not a good look for you.
But I look so cute doing so!QuoteAs for actual conspiracies or lies....9/11 and the multiple wars that followed (speaking from an American point of view, I do not know enough about foreign affairs to say 100 percent about some of their "conspiracies")
You actually think there is even a chance the US government was behind 9/11?QuoteOh and as for the media demonizing any form of freedom of thought by using the most insane quacks as examples happens often just watch the news. Also happens on TV and movies. Not rocket science to find such a thing
There is no such thing as 'the media' with some sort of single agenda. I suspect that if someone looks like a quack and acts like a quack, he is in fact aduckpardon, quack.
And there is nothing wrong with exposing quacks.
I do think there are TV shows who love parading idiots around to crank up ratings. It's the only explanation for Donald Trump.
That said, I still haven't heard any concrete evidence *at all* that there is a conspiracy to hide conspiracies behind fake conspiracies.
All I have are your observations, that don't seem to be based on anything substantial.
You seem to only have a 'feeling' about all this.
Correct me if I'm wrong. If you have more than a feeling (background chorus: 'more than a feeling!!!) and have actual evidence, I will take you seriously.
Show me the evidence!
I have a reporter from the New York Times on speed-dial.
Ah...I see, you are one of those types.
Yeah, I'm one of those pesky people who likes evidence for outrageous claims.QuoteI am sure any type of conversing with you will be a waste on anything other than mainstream ideology.
I don't give a darn thing about things being 'mainstream'. I like to see evidence for claims. That's, in fact, not at all mainstream. Look at how many people believe Donald Trump. *That* is mainstream: swallowing lies because they 'feel right'.QuoteI will attempt just a hair though see where it goes.
And you call me condescending ;D.QuoteThough if your head is in the sand so much to think the government is our friends
Never said that.Quote, then I really think this is useless. As that is the easiest thing to prove out of all I said.
Again: never said that governments (there are more than one, you know. There are more countries) are inherently trustworthy. I just don't think they are inherently evil either.QuoteI don't have proof of these shills, nor did I ever say I did.
If you don't have proof, why call them shills?QuoteI just said seeing actions of some people makes me wonder.
Hate to be a bother, but: what actions? What do you wonder?QuoteNever stated for a fact. Just looked at the means and motive, it's not far fetched if true. Plus would be a quality tactic if it is true. This is just viewing it from a simple warfare point of view if it were true, not rocket science. Don't even need to think outside the box to understand that.
So... You're just asking questions (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions)...QuoteI also do not hide behind anything, I am typically a neutral thinker. There are only a few conspiracies I went after and acted against, ones that had solid evidence, means and motive. Everything else, I just listen and keep my eyes open until it either falls apart or proven. I am usually the one that says the truth is in the middle somewhere. I just always keep an open mind.
Keeping an open mind is not the same as suspecting conspiracies without proof. Keeping an open mind is asking for evidence before accepting a claim.QuoteSo let's calm down with the assumptions and attempted cheeky low brow insults, they are not a good look for you.
But I look so cute doing so!QuoteAs for actual conspiracies or lies....9/11 and the multiple wars that followed (speaking from an American point of view, I do not know enough about foreign affairs to say 100 percent about some of their "conspiracies")
You actually think there is even a chance the US government was behind 9/11?QuoteOh and as for the media demonizing any form of freedom of thought by using the most insane quacks as examples happens often just watch the news. Also happens on TV and movies. Not rocket science to find such a thing
There is no such thing as 'the media' with some sort of single agenda. I suspect that if someone looks like a quack and acts like a quack, he is in fact aduckpardon, quack.
And there is nothing wrong with exposing quacks.
I do think there are TV shows who love parading idiots around to crank up ratings. It's the only explanation for Donald Trump.
That said, I still haven't heard any concrete evidence *at all* that there is a conspiracy to hide conspiracies behind fake conspiracies.
All I have are your observations, that don't seem to be based on anything substantial.
You seem to only have a 'feeling' about all this.
Correct me if I'm wrong. If you have more than a feeling (background chorus: 'more than a feeling!!!) and have actual evidence, I will take you seriously.
Since they're already re-engineered the combustion qualities of jet fuel, violated the second law of thermodynamics, and re-defined the structural properties of steel, why let a little thing like the laws of gravity get in the way?
(https://s11.postimg.org/j6eagqhcz/Project_blue_beam.jpg)
"...governments lie about everything."
"...governments lie about everything."
I KNOW the government is lying to me.
"...governments lie about everything."
I KNOW the government is lying to me.
Also I think that it is important to understand that, even if people believed the world was flat, they weren’t necessarily unintelligent. It would have been a perfectly reasonable assumption to make to the untrained observer. Our immediate experience does not show many signs that the Earth is round. What did you think before someone taught you the Earth was a sphere? (you probably don’t remember back that far, but you know what I mean.)
http://futurism.com/facts-obvious/
Yo N30, so glad you finally see reason.
Yo N30, so glad you finally see reason.
The intelligence agencies use the conspiracy media to disseminate false information..."Why would they do that unless there is something to hide?
Quoted from - http://secretsun.blogspot.nl/2010/11/project-blue-beam-exposed.html
QuoteThe intelligence agencies use the conspiracy media to disseminate false information..."Why would they do that unless there is something to hide?
Quoted from - http://secretsun.blogspot.nl/2010/11/project-blue-beam-exposed.html
Omega stop jumping down everyones throats.
Makes you look like a dick.
I also agree we haven't been told the truth about 9/11, sorry to bring it up again I know how it bothers everyone.
Keep in mind BHS has a PhD in mechanical engineering before you start flinging poo about "total progressive collapse."
But I am interested to hear how building 7 defied three or four laws of physics to fall down as it did.
Sorry to derail.
Edit, Hilarious read, highly recommended.
http://www.rense.com/general34/fant.htmQuoteSince they're already re-engineered the combustion qualities of jet fuel, violated the second law of thermodynamics, and re-defined the structural properties of steel, why let a little thing like the laws of gravity get in the way?
Damn conspiricy theorists .
I will say, a skeptic that opens their mind, from my experience, if they reach that point...they plow harder for the truth than almost anyone I have seen.
I will say, a skeptic that opens their mind, from my experience, if they reach that point...they plow harder for the truth than almost anyone I have seen.
Open minded doesn't mean believing everything you hear. I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for evidence for any claims.
The more outrageous the claim, the more compelling the evidence needs to be.
I know I fit perfectly in your little conspiracy world. I help you to feel 'special' ("look at the stupid skeptic who does not take my word for it!")
and I know I will not cure you of your delusions.
But I am glad to go on record and ask the actual relevant questions. So others who visit this board don't think your assertions go unchallenged.
I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy. If you provide evidence.
I will say, a skeptic that opens their mind, from my experience, if they reach that point...they plow harder for the truth than almost anyone I have seen.
Open minded doesn't mean believing everything you hear. I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for evidence for any claims.
The more outrageous the claim, the more compelling the evidence needs to be.
I know I fit perfectly in your little conspiracy world. I help you to feel 'special' ("look at the stupid skeptic who does not take my word for it!")
and I know I will not cure you of your delusions.
But I am glad to go on record and ask the actual relevant questions. So others who visit this board don't think your assertions go unchallenged.
I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy. If you provide evidence.
You appear to like creating stories where the person you are talking to is described as an idiot.
I will say, a skeptic that opens their mind, from my experience, if they reach that point...they plow harder for the truth than almost anyone I have seen.
Open minded doesn't mean believing everything you hear. I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for evidence for any claims.
The more outrageous the claim, the more compelling the evidence needs to be.
I know I fit perfectly in your little conspiracy world. I help you to feel 'special' ("look at the stupid skeptic who does not take my word for it!")
and I know I will not cure you of your delusions.
But I am glad to go on record and ask the actual relevant questions. So others who visit this board don't think your assertions go unchallenged.
I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy. If you provide evidence.
There is no evidence at all that 9/11 was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings.
None at all.
And if there was, can you imagine the political capital the Democrats would have if they actually had proof that Bush et al where behind it?
There is no evidence at all that 9/11 was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings.
None at all.
And if there was, can you imagine the political capital the Democrats would have if they actually had proof that Bush et al where behind it?
Think, McFly. THINK.
Did the US abuse 9/11 to go to Iraq? No question about that.
Does that mean they were behind it? No not at all.
I would even say that if this was fabricated to invade Iraq, they could have fabricated actual evidence that Iraq was behind it.
Think. Don't be sheeple.
So no evidence at all it was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals and yet from almost the next day a case was orchestrated to go get them folks in Iraq who did it no matter how trumped up the evidence was.
Stranger still pretty well every government in the world including finland and new zealand contributed armed forces in some capacity to the war 'on terror'
And if you publicly question what happened some goon comes along and questions your mental health.
I have always wondered what happened to Gerard, between 2007-2008 everything of his got deleted and he just vanished. Then a couple years later his death was announced. I have no evidence of anything but it sure seems strange, he had NO intentions of shutting up. Then the whole group got hit with the threat of federal charges for terroristic activities, the 501c was renounced, I got audited and shut down for a month, and have been audited every damn year since even though I have actually over paid every year. Along with a bunch of other non sense.....
Sure does make you wonder.
We are more or less agreeing. And after years of headbanging with this stuff i have no interest whatsoever to get into details that may or may not separate us. You have already shown your colours where anybody who disagrees with you gets the idiot treatment you seem to specialise in.
So no evidence at all it was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals and yet from almost the next day a case was orchestrated to go get them folks in Iraq who did it no matter how trumped up the evidence was.
Stranger still pretty well every government in the world including finland and new zealand contributed armed forces in some capacity to the war 'on terror'
And if you publicly question what happened some goon comes along and questions your mental health.
Or this....I have always wondered what happened to Gerard, between 2007-2008 everything of his got deleted and he just vanished. Then a couple years later his death was announced. I have no evidence of anything but it sure seems strange, he had NO intentions of shutting up. Then the whole group got hit with the threat of federal charges for terroristic activities, the 501c was renounced, I got audited and shut down for a month, and have been audited every damn year since even though I have actually over paid every year. Along with a bunch of other non sense.....
Sure does make you wonder.
Such an interesting set of events...
We are more or less agreeing. And after years of headbanging with this stuff i have no interest whatsoever to get into details that may or may not separate us. You have already shown your colours where anybody who disagrees with you gets the idiot treatment you seem to specialise in.
You are correct I know am just wasting time with someone like him. This is one of the only subjects that really set me off. Just because I know the truth (as much as i can) and am so close to it.
And it isn't even the knowledge part...just people lying to others , these poor people sitting their in their cloud of brain wash helplessly believing a lie. Plus all the millions of lives and deaths that resulted from such a lie....i mourn for all of these people and the weight is always in my heart.
Then putting years, my soul, 100s of thousands of dollars and man hours into a project I thought would make a difference..yet to be extinguished by a more powerful force. To be in the exact same place...not only do I mourn for those I spoke about above, my personal spirit was broken.
Are you guys high?
Are you guys high?The 6th floor, so not too high.
"I am on shit loads of drugs..."
"Government is lying about many things..."
"I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy..."
"...governments lie about everything."
"If you look at the frame holding the traffic signs the video begins with the line going to the right as it moves upwards away from the traffic sign frame." -
What does a line moving "upwards away" even mean...?
It was good enough for super man.
Up up and away!!!
"...you can only win your arguments by lying..."
Who do you think is ultimately in charge of all those fields of study? In case you don't know I'll tell you. The GOVERNMENT."...governments lie about everything."
I KNOW the government is lying to me.
Nobody ever lies about everything, if they want you to believe them.
The best liars are hiding lies inbetween truth.
Government is lying about many things, but Globe Earth didn't come from government.
It came from science: astronomy, geography, navigation, geodesy, meteorology, physics, ...
There is no evidence at all that 9/11 was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings.You are either a shill, or just a brainwashed son of a bitch. There is so much proof out there on 911, you either purposely over look it or cannot see the the truth whatsoever.
None at all.
And if there was, can you imagine the political capital the Democrats would have if they actually had proof that Bush et al where behind it?
Think, McFly. THINK.
You have no case, so you attack the presenter. Seems to be a common flat earth tactic!There is no evidence at all that 9/11 was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings.You are either a shill, or just a brainwashed son of a bitch. There is so much proof out there on 911, you either purposely over look it or cannot see the the truth whatsoever.
None at all.
And if there was, can you imagine the political capital the Democrats would have if they actually had proof that Bush et al where behind it?
Think, McFly. THINK.
"You know I have not yet see a FEer ask a single question that he or she actually wanted to hear the answer to?"
"I have yet to see a FEer show genuine curiosity at how physics works."
"If you can only win your arguments by lying, you are obviously part of a conspiracy."
"...governments lie about everything."
"I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy."
"Shut up for a moment, N30."
"Oh and nobody says the Earth is pear-shaped"
"But seriously, N30... why do yo feel attacked by all this?"
"...NASA has in fact lied, and there IS a world-wide conspiracy hiding the truth..."
"If I had been lied to so consistently, through false evidence, faked videos and made to believe ridiculous reasonings, I would be angry at all the people who made those fake videos, altered evidence and participated in keeping the lie alive."
"I assure you, I am not playing."
"How can the earth be flat if my balls are round?"
"I answer only to Satan."
"Many people here are liars and some like you are perverts."
"Time and time again you are shown to be a lying pervert."
"It is perverted to imply I am constantly asking the same questions."
"If I say you are a pervert for a blatant lie by creating this thread and you ask if i am the pervert, and then Jimmy crab asks if you are the pervert then it is a bit perverted to claim he is derailing this thread."
"Your behaviour on this forum is demonstrably perverse."
"What kind of a lying pervert would so dishonestly imply otherwise?"
"...but you KNOW I am lying to you as well."
"...flat earthers have yet to reach the intelligence level of a kid"
"Have you ever seen a frozen alligator?"
"If gravity was real, how comes I am not attracted to your mom?"
"How can earth be round if my floor is flat?"
"How can earth be round if pancakes are flat?"
"Any worm has a higher brain functionality than any flat earther."
"I claim that a worm has higher brain functionality than you have."
"I WILL NOT REPEAT MYSELF OVER AND OVER."
"No disrespect intended, just mocking"
"So you require a source?"
"I appreciate your trolling skills, but sometimes you get too obvious"
"I get 100.- per hour."
"We're currently spaming the flat earth forum, so every external visitor would leave instantly."
"Do I understand correctly that N30 wants to know how earth looks like"... "he is requesting all to be presented exactly and precisely and with evidence and proof and with the cherry on the top?"
"The intelligence agencies use the conspiracy media to disseminate false information..."
Quoted from - http://secretsun.blogspot.nl/2010/11/project-blue-beam-exposed.html
Ladies and Gentleman, may I present, The Intelligence Agencies, and their responses to the Flat Earth Theory."You know I have not yet see a FEer ask a single question that he or she actually wanted to hear the answer to?"
"I have yet to see a FEer show genuine curiosity at how physics works."
"If you can only win your arguments by lying, you are obviously part of a conspiracy."
"...governments lie about everything."
"I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy."
"Shut up for a moment, N30."
"Oh and nobody says the Earth is pear-shaped"
"But seriously, N30... why do yo feel attacked by all this?"
"...NASA has in fact lied, and there IS a world-wide conspiracy hiding the truth..."
"If I had been lied to so consistently, through false evidence, faked videos and made to believe ridiculous reasonings, I would be angry at all the people who made those fake videos, altered evidence and participated in keeping the lie alive."
"I assure you, I am not playing."
"How can the earth be flat if my balls are round?"
"I answer only to Satan.""Many people here are liars and some like you are perverts."
"Time and time again you are shown to be a lying pervert."
"It is perverted to imply I am constantly asking the same questions."
"If I say you are a pervert for a blatant lie by creating this thread and you ask if i am the pervert, and then Jimmy crab asks if you are the pervert then it is a bit perverted to claim he is derailing this thread."
"Your behaviour on this forum is demonstrably perverse."
"What kind of a lying pervert would so dishonestly imply otherwise?"
"...but you KNOW I am lying to you as well.""...flat earthers have yet to reach the intelligence level of a kid"
"Have you ever seen a frozen alligator?"
"If gravity was real, how comes I am not attracted to your mom?"
"How can earth be round if my floor is flat?"
"How can earth be round if pancakes are flat?"
"Any worm has a higher brain functionality than any flat earther."
"I claim that a worm has higher brain functionality than you have."
"I WILL NOT REPEAT MYSELF OVER AND OVER."
"No disrespect intended, just mocking"
"So you require a source?"
"I appreciate your trolling skills, but sometimes you get too obvious"
"I get 100.- per hour."
"We're currently spaming the flat earth forum, so every external visitor would leave instantly.""Do I understand correctly that N30 wants to know how earth looks like"... "he is requesting all to be presented exactly and precisely and with evidence and proof and with the cherry on the top?"
"Damn, are you dumb!"
"Do you really have a consciousness? Could you tell apart whether you were tricked into believing you have a consciousness vs. having a consciousness?"
"...I'd like to engage serious discussion
on the subject of science..."
"What I mean is that this is not actually a joke for me"
Who would you believe if your life was on the line?Certainly not you, you're a fuckwit.
Alternatively... Are you going to take the blue pill, or the red pill?I'm going to take them both. Crush em up and snort em.
The calculated area of the Earth is 197 million square miles.
it is 7.93 x 1017 square inches.
Sky can be even bigger, but let's limit ourselves to this.
"The surface area of a sphere is given by A = 4 * Pi * R^2."
"This will give a good answer for most purposes, but Earth is not a
sphere."
"Earth is a little flat at the poles..."
"The fact that it is flat at the poles doesn't change much"
"You can always increase the total area by considering ever smaller
pits and humps, all the way until the surface has no more meaning"
The surface area of a sphere of radius a is 4*pi*a^2.
"...The area of a circle of radius a is
pi a^2. If you differentiate this with respect to a, you get 2*pi*a,
which is, gasp, the circumference of a circle of radius a. The
volume of a sphere of radius a is 4*pi*a^3/3. If you differentiate
this with respect to a you get, yes, the surface area of a sphere."
"...Earth is not a
sphere."
http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/54878.html
Yeah, we get it.Earth is not a sphere.As its out of the way then please enlighten uswhat are the earth measurements and shapeand how you determined and calculated these.
So you don't know. Why the hell you are so adamant about round earth measurements when you have absolutely no idea what they are on flat earth case? Its like:Yeah, we get it.Earth is not a sphere.As its out of the way then please enlighten uswhat are the earth measurements and shapeand how you determined and calculated these.
Straight from the horses mouth. I would tell you, but one would be arrested for going to Antarctica with a ruler.
Ok, ifThe Earth is Disc, with diameter of 16 000 miles, and considering the Sun is not at the highest spot on Dome,
(and it is 3110 miles above ground), then Dome top can be 3300 miles high at the spot where North Star is. (Polaris.)
It gives us area of Dome (as area of spherical cap) to be roughly 1018 square inches,
which is 1020 pixels, which is 3 x 1020 Bytes per image.
864 000 images per day is 2.6 x 1026 Bytes.
Which is about 3.8 times more than in my previous post.
Now we see even worse situation for technical possibilities to project such video.You cancalculate itbetter?
"Ahh, flat earth... Its flat and has no need of other specifications."
Ok, ifThe Earth is Disc, with diameter of 16 000 miles, and considering the Sun is not at the highest spot on Dome,
(and it is 3110 miles above ground), then Dome top can be 3300 miles high at the spot where North Star is. (Polaris.)
It gives us area of Dome (as area of spherical cap) to be roughly 1018 square inches,
which is 1020 pixels, which is 3 x 1020 Bytes per image.
864 000 images per day is 2.6 x 1026 Bytes.
Which is about 3.8 times more than in my previous post.
Now we see even worse situation for technical possibilities to project such video.You cancalculate itbetter?
Thank you... Thats literally all you have been doing."Ahh, flat earth... Its flat and has no need of other specifications."
Please, I did spend a large portion of my life in school for nothing!
I would be killed for trying to measure the true shape of Earth, by the US military patrolling the exterior.And yet no soldier has ever come back and told us about this? There must be millions out there to patrol such a large area.
I would be killed for trying to measure the true shape of Earth, by the US military patrolling the exterior.And yet no soldier has ever come back and told us about this? There must be millions out there to patrol such a large area.
So, before the US existed as a military superpower (or before it even existed at all) who used to patrol the edges of the flat earth?
So, before the US existed as a military superpower (or before it even existed at all) who used to patrol the edges of the flat earth?
"...the US Army is only loyal soldiers..."
All they need is a few bases with a multitude of sensor arrays, and thats exactly whats there.Says the N30 know it all with no evidence at all, just all this rubbish spouting from his massive brain!
All they need is a few bases with a multitude of sensor arrays, and thats exactly whats there.
All they need is a few bases with a multitude of sensor arrays, and thats exactly whats there.
We aren't sure how far the exterior wall is from the shores of Antarctica.
Actually, it could be thousands of miles, more than enough time for NASA to kill anyone venturing close enough.
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
Entirely because there are so many discrepancies about its size and shape.
Until the space program, there was no empirical evidence that it was a continent.
Promptly after humans "entered space" for the first time, Antartica was closed to the public.
"NASA kill everyone" is because total number of NASA employees, including associates, is around 18 000 people.
Unless you have "authorization".
Perhaps, if Earth is not a perfect sphere, science and math should stop treating it as such!
"Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is." - Isaac Asimov.
Name 1 scientist that claims the earth is a perfect sphere. If you're going to quote Asimov, you better practice what you preach.
“Finding something spherical in space indicates that you have found a place where gravity has taken over.”
-Mike Brown, Astrophysicist.
https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/234214.Mike_Brown
Perhaps, if Earth is not a perfect sphere, science and math should stop treating it as such!
Radius, diameter and circumference
The mean radius of Earth is 3,959 miles (6,371 kilometers). However, Earth is not quite a sphere. The planet's rotation causes it to bulge at the equator. Earth's equatorial diameter is 7,926 miles (12,756 km), but from pole to pole, the diameter is 7,898 miles (12,714 km) — a difference of only 28 miles (42 km).
The circumference of Earth at the equator is about 24,874 miles (40,030 km), but from pole-to-pole — the meridional circumference — Earth is only 24,860 miles (40,008 km) around. This shape, caused by the flattening at the poles, is called an oblate spheroid.
From: Space, How Big is Earth?] (http://www.space.com/17638-how-big-is-earth.html)
"NASA kill everyone" is because total number of NASA employees, including associates, is around 18 000 people.
When did I say "NASA kill everyone"?
...
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
Hey, "I think I am here, therefore I am here", with apologies to René Descartes.Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
I think you are figment of my imagination or my other alter ego in this site who pretends to be australian(I have these blackouts sometimes...). Yes, thats it! How can anyone live in Australia when it does not exist.Hey, "I think I am here, therefore I am here", with apologies to René Descartes.Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.Anyone who thinks Australia doesn't exist is "A few 'roos short in the top paddock!".
I think you are figment of my imagination or my other alter ego in this site who pretends to be australian(I have these blackouts sometimes...). Yes, thats it! How can anyone live in Australia when it does not exist.Hey, "I think I am here, therefore I am here", with apologies to René Descartes.Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.Anyone who thinks Australia doesn't exist is "A few 'roos short in the top paddock!".
I think you are figment of my imagination or my other alter ego in this site who pretends to be australian(I have these blackouts sometimes...). Yes, thats it! How can anyone live in Australia when it does not exist.Hey, "I think I am here, therefore I am here", with apologies to René Descartes.Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.Anyone who thinks Australia doesn't exist is "A few 'roos short in the top paddock!".Gee whiz, I hadn't thought of that, maybe I don't exist.
Hey come back! I was living there for a while.I think you are figment of my imagination or my other alter ego in this site who pretends to be australian(I have these blackouts sometimes...). Yes, thats it! How can anyone live in Australia when it does not exist.Hey, "I think I am here, therefore I am here", with apologies to René Descartes.Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.Anyone who thinks Australia doesn't exist is "A few 'roos short in the top paddock!".Gee whiz, I hadn't thought of that, maybe I don't exist.
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
Sure. They are told that they live in Australia and they blindly believe it. Have they actually verified it? Went up so high that they can see all Australia continent? And in same time can they touch it, because you know, maybe they run some video/hologram outside the window to deceive you. How can they be sure that it really is Australia where they live.Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
My aunt and my uncle live in Melbourne.
Their last name is Vrzina.
Maria and Tonci (Tony).
They live there for decades.
Sure. They are told that they live in Australia and they blindly believe it. Have they actually verified it? Went up so high that they can see all Australia continent? And in same time can they touch it, because you know, maybe they run some video/hologram outside the window to deceive you. How can they be sure that it really is Australia where they live.Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
My aunt and my uncle live in Melbourne.
Their last name is Vrzina.
Maria and Tonci (Tony).
They live there for decades.
It should be. And faking one smaller continent is definitely cheaper than faking entire round earth. They sure make lots of money showing koalas and other stuff. And they even crossbred beaver with a duck!Sure. They are told that they live in Australia and they blindly believe it. Have they actually verified it? Went up so high that they can see all Australia continent? And in same time can they touch it, because you know, maybe they run some video/hologram outside the window to deceive you. How can they be sure that it really is Australia where they live.Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
My aunt and my uncle live in Melbourne.
Their last name is Vrzina.
Maria and Tonci (Tony).
They live there for decades.
Well, you know, all those koalas, kangaroos, eucalyptuses, ... sounded very convincimg. :)
It should be. And faking one smaller continent is definitely cheaper than faking entire round earth. They sure make lots of money showing koalas and other stuff. And they even crossbred beaver with a duck!Sure. They are told that they live in Australia and they blindly believe it. Have they actually verified it? Went up so high that they can see all Australia continent? And in same time can they touch it, because you know, maybe they run some video/hologram outside the window to deceive you. How can they be sure that it really is Australia where they live.Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
My aunt and my uncle live in Melbourne.
Their last name is Vrzina.
Maria and Tonci (Tony).
They live there for decades.
Well, you know, all those koalas, kangaroos, eucalyptuses, ... sounded very convincimg. :)
It should be. And faking one smaller continent is definitely cheaper than faking entire round earth. They sure make lots of money showing koalas and other stuff. And they even crossbred beaver with a duck!Sure. They are told that they live in Australia and they blindly believe it. Have they actually verified it? Went up so high that they can see all Australia continent? And in same time can they touch it, because you know, maybe they run some video/hologram outside the window to deceive you. How can they be sure that it really is Australia where they live.Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
My aunt and my uncle live in Melbourne.
Their last name is Vrzina.
Maria and Tonci (Tony).
They live there for decades.
Well, you know, all those koalas, kangaroos, eucalyptuses, ... sounded very convincimg. :)
(https://s21.postimg.org/6lwdi43mr/images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6lwdi43mr/)
Can't argue with him there.
(http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0013/12532/GA6261.gif) Australia/Europe | (http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0014/12533/GA6263.gif) Australia/Japan | (http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0015/12534/GA6262.gif) Australia/British Isles | (http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0016/12535/GA6264.gif) Australia/United States |
The logic here is undeniable. - (sarcasm)
Sounds like an attempt at a turning people away from an otherwise logical discussion.
Yes, we are supposed to be the smallest continent, but as a country Australia is not so small:And Tasmania, our smallest state at 68,401 km2 is over three times area of the whole country of Wales, (at 20,761 km2) and it doesn't have any Dragons, only Tasmanian Devils.
Australia/Europe
Australia/Japan
Australia/British Isles
Australia/United States
Then our smallest mainland state, Victoria, is larger in area (at 237,629 km2) than England+Scotland+Wales (at 209,331 km2).
And finally, South Australia, our second smallest mainland state is much larger in area (at 984,377 km2) than that toy Lone Star State in the USA (at 695,662 km2).
So just watch it, or we loose Six White Boomers and a dozen Tassie Devils after you. That should put you to rights!
Also, stop giving the koalas chlamydiae, rabinoz. >:(Any decent mod would have you for an accusation like that. :P Seen any around lately? :P
I believe their technology far exceeds our comprehension, and they have means of creating a realistic false image anywhere they please. If one believes they have the capacity to keep a secret such as the shape of our Earth, then why not instruments capable of deceiving the human eye flawlessly. Such technology would explain the appearances of the I.S.S. and satellites as well. They may be using the firmament itself as a projection point, or they may have the capacity to breach this barrier and project from the outside, although that is not likely the case.Freemasons are 2500 years old? That's news. You have to make a huge amount of assumptions for any of your ideas to work
There is a quote "History is written by the victors". I understand that it would be a fallacy to ignore all written history, but one must realize that if in fact we have been lied to all our lives, many other facets of our known reality may also be untruthful. Its funny that Rabinoz brings up the globular Earth being settled 2500 years ago, for that is around the same time the Freemasons were officially recognized, or so were told. Of course, their plans may not have included projection beams and aliens, but then again, they may have known more than we think.
"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"
-http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/
Masonry is the building of structures from individual units laid in and bound together by mortar;
the term masonry can also refer to the units themselves.
The common materials of masonry construction are brick, building stone such as
marble, granite, travertine, and limestone, cast stone, concrete block, glass block, and cob.
Masonry is generally a highly durable form of construction.
However, the materials used, the quality of the mortar and workmanship,
and the pattern in which the units are assembled can significantly affect
the durability of the overall masonry construction.
A person who constructs masonry is called a mason or bricklayer.
I can say I could believe in God, but I'm not sure.
(Sorry, God, my nature requires proof. If you created me, you already know that.)
Quote"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"The craft was in existence, not the organization that is Freemasons. Please show me some evidence they existed that long ago.
-http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/
5th Century BCE= 450 BC= 2500 Years ago.
Yeah, legendary history - it's bollocks. In reality Freemasonery started in the 18th century, though stone masons guilds had been around since the Middle Ages.Quote"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"
-http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/
5th Century BCE= 450 BC= 2500 Years ago.
Thanks, that's what I was trying to say but it only posted the quote and not my comments. Masons just celebrated their 300th anniversary in fact.Yeah, legendary history - it's bollocks. In reality Freemasonery started in the 18th century, though stone masons guilds had been around since the Middle Ages.Quote"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"
-http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/
5th Century BCE= 450 BC= 2500 Years ago.
Please show me some evidence they existed that long ago.
"In reality Freemasonery started in the 18th century."
"Masons just celebrated their 300th anniversary..."
Please show me some evidence they existed that long ago.
I just did, it is not my fault that you do not understand that the craft cannot exist without the organization.
Thats not how it works..."In reality Freemasonery started in the 18th century.""Masons just celebrated their 300th anniversary..."
That's just when they created a "club" for the people who questioned their methods, to shut them up.
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Actually did not show any such evidence, you simply made the claim. As for a craft existing without the organization, of course if can. Skills are handed down from craftsman to his apprentice. In fact the very idea that you would form a club, and THEN develope the craft is completely ridiculous.Please show me some evidence they existed that long ago.
I just did, it is not my fault that you do not understand that the craft cannot exist without the organization.
Thats not how it works..."In reality Freemasonery started in the 18th century.""Masons just celebrated their 300th anniversary..."
That's just when they created a "club" for the people who questioned their methods, to shut them up.
(https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-801933d3a7c4b034ec0503df91a106d4-c?convert_to_webp=true)
As for a craft existing without the organization, of course if can.
Not really seeing the relevance there. But if you want to go with that what you are saying is, the NBA formed and then looked around for a sport to play, created it, trained people in and started having games.As for a craft existing without the organization, of course if can.
So... Basketball can be played by one person?
Your reading comprehension level, as usual, seems quite non-existent.As for a craft existing without the organization, of course if can.
So... Basketball can be played by one person?
But if you want to go with that what you are saying is, the NBA formed and then looked around for a sport to play, created it, trained people in and started having games.
"Included among the men alleged to be our ancient Brothers include Euclid, Pythagoras, Moses, and even Jesus of Nazareth. Allusions to their inclusion is even reinforced in popular culture of the 20th century by Masons such as Walt Disney..."
"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"
http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/
Not really sure how we got on this tangent but the point is you have to have the craft before you have the organization of that craft.But if you want to go with that what you are saying is, the NBA formed and then looked around for a sport to play, created it, trained people in and started having games.
Wrong. I am saying to play basketball, or produce live music with a rock band, more than one person is required.
Akin to making music, or playing a team sport, Freemasonry requires more than one human to accomplish.
Kept in secrecy, Freemasonry is not merely the simple act of shaping stone, it is the craft of shaping much more.
Exemplified by their need for many ceremonies, secrecy, and ranks; What use would stone workers have for this?
Uncovering the whole truth is impossible, but seeking it reveals their true nature.
Purportedly, many figures from history are Freemasons, including Edwin Aldrin and many other Apollo astronauts.Quote"Included among the men alleged to be our ancient Brothers include Euclid, Pythagoras, Moses, and even Jesus of Nazareth. Allusions to their inclusion is even reinforced in popular culture of the 20th century by Masons such as Walt Disney..."
"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"
http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/
"...you have to have the craft before you have the organization of that craft."
It just doesn't work that way and you have presented no evidence of any nefarious activity"...you have to have the craft before you have the organization of that craft."In this case, the craft and the organization are one in the same.
"It just doesn't work that way..."
So what is Freemasonry? Simply put, it's the world's oldest and largest fraternity.http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/
"...you have presented no evidence of any nefarious activity"
I have, lost of innuendo, lots of unsupported statements, lots of, we are told, some people think etc. no so much by way of fact."It just doesn't work that way..."QuoteSo what is Freemasonry? Simply put, it's the world's oldest and largest fraternity.http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/"...you have presented no evidence of any nefarious activity"I suggest you read the entire thread
"...you have to have the craft before you have the organization of that craft."In this case, the craft and the organization are one in the same.
The Freemasons originated to protect the secrets of the craft of masonry.
If you want to be a Freemason, you can petition a local lodge for membership.You'll need to demonstrate good character and belief in some sort of Supreme Being.Oh, and in almost all lodges, it's men only.http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/
It's certainly grown beyond that. Now it's pretty much a rich guys social club. But that is how it started.The Freemasons originated to protect the secrets of the craft of masonry.QuoteIf you want to be a Freemason, you can petition a local lodge for membership.You'll need to demonstrate good character and belief in some sort of Supreme Being.Oh, and in almost all lodges, it's men only.http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/Yeah... that does not sound like an organization for people who carve stones...
It's certainly grown beyond that.
Still not seeing anything nefarious. And no idea where you got some of those imagesIt's certainly grown beyond that.(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7d/80/40/7d804094c35d7948aa4460e6e1bf5262.jpg)(http://library.hrmtc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/hall-freemasonry-of-the-ancient-egyptians-philosophical-research-society.jpg)(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/L3hC8tLEyrY/hqdefault.jpg)(http://watch.pair.com/eye.jpg)
A lot of astronauts are and were masons. Is there any reason for this?Your list shows 10. I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to space
http://freemasoninformation.com/masonic-education/famous/masonic-astronauts/
More masons.
http://www.mastermason.com/lakeshorelodge307/famous_freemasons.htm
I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to space
"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Conrad
I would assume there is more to the story. You tend to cherry pick and take things out of context.I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to spacePete Conrad was the first non-Freemason to set foot on the moon.Quote"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_ConradThis is the kind of person that gets to go to space?
I would assume there is more to the story. You tend to cherry pick and take things out of context.I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to spacePete Conrad was the first non-Freemason to set foot on the moon.Quote"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_ConradThis is the kind of person that gets to go to space?
What is your point with this?
As with so much of what you say, I am not sure what your point is here. Nor do I have any interest in going off into the weeds over one of hundreds of astronauts because don't like their character.I would assume there is more to the story. You tend to cherry pick and take things out of context.I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to spacePete Conrad was the first non-Freemason to set foot on the moon.Quote"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_ConradThis is the kind of person that gets to go to space?
What is your point with this?
There is more to the story...
After Mr. Conrad committed those acts, NASA found him, and actively persuaded him to be an astronaut.
Please, explain how any rational real reputable company would employ someone with that background.
How is this relevant to some alleged mega agency being able to project images when and where they want onto some fictional dome that covers the earth?
Slanderous? In what way?How is this relevant to some alleged mega agency being able to project images when and where they want onto some fictional dome that covers the earth?
It lends credit to how ridiculously slanderous NASA is, and obviously how unpredictable they are.
Plus..ever wonder why the only countries getting attacked and "demonized" are countries with out world banks?? You know ..the ones where the government prints their own money. :)
Plus..ever wonder why the only countries getting attacked and "demonized" are countries with out world banks?? You know ..the ones where the government prints their own money. :)
That's really interesting, I haven't looked into that much to be honest, I will now.
Plus..ever wonder why the only countries getting attacked and "demonized" are countries with out world banks?? You know ..the ones where the government prints their own money. :)What do you mean by "world bank"?? Here in the UK we don't have a "world bank" we have our own national bank, like most countries. The Bank of England set interest rates and prints money. I'm really not sure what you are getting at.
Just look at the war patterns...why do you think all the talk (in the states) is Iran. They have their own currency, they have almost 0 debt per capita,Well, their national debt is around $66 billion, or 18% of GPD - good by international standards, but not zero. Let's face it, who's going to lend them any serious money? It's a very poor country. The reason places like the US and the UK can borrow such large amounts is because they are considered good for it.
Guess what their banks pay for interest in a basic savings account...15 percent.Yeah, their high interest rates were brought in to control their spiraling inflation! Inflation hit nearly 40% a few years ago, so 15% on savings would mean any savings accounts would be wiped out in the space of a few years. 15% is nothing with those inflation rates.
Oh Mr. Crab....I know you HATE anything that challenges your world view.Actually I enjoy it - I'm just trying to work out what you are actually claiming, as you're all over the place and come across as economically illiterate. I'm not really sure how you know what my world view is anyway, you just don't like people contradicting you, so throw that shit around. Lazy debating.
As to your comments...I was speaking of central banks that control money flow into an economy (it's inflation rate etc)So why did you keep saying "world banks"? And central banks attempt to control inflation indirectly through monetary policy, generally speaking.
, and charges interest to the government on every piece of currency provided. Also, keep in mind Iranian currency is still backed by oil and gold.The Bank of England is a non-profit organisation, like most central banks, and doesn't charge interest on currency creation.
So since the IMF WTO g10 etc cannot screw with them, they do the next best thing...place sanctions, trade embargos, change currency values, and drop the price of crude oil (there currency is heavily based on crude). Attempting to destroy their economy and destroy their currency value which is working.Yes, this is just rambling - hint font size changes look a bit unhinged.
So yes big difference between yours and my monetary system and Iran's.
As for the debt issue....if you read very carefully you will see i said "almost" debt free. Nothing wrong with WANTED investments by a country.
I would say 800 dollars per capita vs 60,000 dollars per capita (America)or 140,000 per capita (UK)...800 dollars would be "almost" 0 debt.
The IMF is trying to bankrupt iran and then pull the usual trick used on countries previously out of their control, or destitute poor countries.
Broke??? No problem...here is a loan (ridiculous interest, impossible to meet the demands, especially on a country broke enough to be forced that route anyways)
Can't pay us back??? No problem...let us put one of our banks in control of your currency, we will keep you supplied of money, it will only cost you a small fee per piece of currency. We will back everything and your country shall become rich and prosperous ::)
Just imagine being able to disrupt/change an entire nation by simply adding or subtracting 5 percent. You want true power, there you have it.
Is it not a coincidence every major president or person or high ranking power warned against giving the banks that power? They learned from England where they fought to free themselves of.
Oh hell...I will keep rambling I am done.
If you find it ok that a private for profit conglomeration has power to print your money, charge you for it, and control your country.Where did I say that? Pure strawman.
I'm not really sure how you know what my world view is anyway, you just don't like people contradicting you, so throw that shit around. Lazy debating
So why did you keep saying "world banks"? And central banks attempt to control inflation indirectly through monetary policy, generally speaking.
The Bank of England is a non-profit organisation, like most central banks, and doesn't charge interest on currency creation.I said oil and gold...I also said mostly oil. Just wanted to include the gold, as it is a percentage, albeit under 10 but it is still there.
Iran loses money on every barrel of oil it sells at the moment, and will do until oil prices rise substantially. It does not have a gold backed currency.
Yes, this is just rambling - hint font size changes look a bit unhinged.I see nothing out of order...facts about comparisons of the counties debts. The IMF game they play is easy to find fact, just look at their history. A small group of people having the power to shift nations through the control of/value of/ and supply of currency is a simple statement. Easily proven, and it is obviously the recipe for disaster. History can show that, and so will the future.
Agreed the USA and it's allies have been waging economic war on Iran for decades (it's hardly a secret) and, not surprisingly, Iran has been losing. Hopefully things are starting to change and Iran can start to open up and flourish, it's got a lot of pontential - I'd really like to visit the place one day.
Keep in mind it's not just the USA that's been fucking them over - the country is ruled by a fascist theocracy and the horribly corrupt Revolutionary Guard who control pretty much every aspect of Iran's society. A bunch of very wealthy clerics, army officers and bureaucrats pocket much of the wealth coming into the country - pretty much all of the oil is controlled by the Guard. I'm not sure why you think this is such a great model for the Iranian people?
Wow, after being accused of being N30, I looked into his posts. This is some pretty heavy stuff... Is this really why he got banned?
Wow, after being accused of being N30, I looked into his posts. This is some pretty heavy stuff... Is this really why he got banned?As I recall he got banned for lying and misquoting people here. And according to space cowgirl it was only for a couple days.
As I recall he got banned for lying and misquoting people here. And according to space cowgirl it was only for a couple days.
As I recall he got banned for lying and misquoting people here. And according to space cowgirl it was only for a couple days.
Sock-puppets remember everything, even what the sock-puppet mods did...
Lol busted!
As I recall he got banned for lying and misquoting people here. And according to space cowgirl it was only for a couple days.
Sock-puppets remember everything, even what the sock-puppet mods did...
Lol busted!
Right....so a good memory means sock puppet??
So by that level...you are the master sock puppet. You bring up posts from years before, quotes from years before, even what people do on YouTube and other sites from years and years before.
Interesting...
Wow, after being accused of being N30, I looked into his posts. This is some pretty heavy stuff... Is this really why he got banned?It was me who "accused" you of being N30. Well, more like stated it could have been a possibility.
While SickPapaBots can't even tell the difference between the Gulf Stream and the ISS.As I recall he got banned for lying and misquoting people here. And according to space cowgirl it was only for a couple days.
Sock-puppets remember everything, even what the sock-puppet mods did...
Gulf Stream
The Gulf Stream, together with its northern extension towards Europe, the North Atlantic Drift, is a powerful, warm, and swift Atlantic ocean current that originates in the Gulf of Mexico and stretches to the tip of Florida, and follows the eastern coastlines of the United States and Newfoundland before crossing the Atlantic Ocean.
The used to be bear-baiting, now there's ;D PapaBot-baiting ;D - much less dangerous, and not even illegal!
This is why humanity will suffer a loss of life incomparable to any in history. We have become accustomed to evil. We recognize wrong doings yet do nothing to correct them. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Facing evil is not fun, nor easy, or safe. Why would someone want to? Its hard to sacrifice part of your own life just to stop something that would not effect you otherwise. But you would be wrong in thinking that. For the longer you go leaving evil unchecked, the more you let evil check you.Yes, all that is very true, but
This is why humanity will suffer a loss of life incomparable to any in history. We have become accustomed to evil. We recognize wrong doings yet do nothing to correct them. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Facing evil is not fun, nor easy, or safe. Why would someone want to? Its hard to sacrifice part of your own life just to stop something that would not effect you otherwise. But you would be wrong in thinking that. For the longer you go leaving evil unchecked, the more you let evil check you.Yes, all that is very true, butwhat does it have to do with the shape of the earth?Absolutely nothing!
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.
If I believe in a flat earth will I be set free?
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.
If I believe in a flat earth will I be set free?
(To be read in the voice of a Televangelist preacher)
YES my child!! SAL-VAY-SHUN can be YOURS if you simply BELIEVE!!!
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.
If I believe in a flat earth will I be set free?
(To be read in the voice of a Televangelist preacher)
YES my child!! SAL-VAY-SHUN can be YOURS if you simply BELIEVE!!!
Yes, but that is generally based on a belief in Jesus and his plan of salvation.
What I want to know is if believing in a flat earth will set me free.
DELET THIS
I am not a grammar Nazi as you seem to believe. I have let many typos go unattended to. What I will make a fuss about however, is the fact that you ignore my question, and go on spamming posts about totally unrelated things. I was talking about radio war of the worlds event. That was completely overlooked, and for what? You make the convo about me instead of the topic.
If you believe in your heart. You will see the myriad of deceptions set about you. But if you want to believe your master. That everything is ok just as your master presents.You will be happy in your cage.I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.
If I believe in a flat earth will I be set free?
Was the "war of the worlds" radio fiasco an attempt at an earlier implementation of a plan to enslave most of earths population? Just like Blue Beam...
What does infinity look like?
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.
I guess so are the ten commandments, yeah?
You should explain the context.
You should explain the context.
Murdering children by smashing them against rocks is never right, regardless of the context. Jesus could have told you that.
You should explain the context.
Murdering children by smashing them against rocks is never right, regardless of the context. Jesus could have told you that.
I dont believe God ever allowed those babies to be smashed. You just quoted a curse from an angry isrealite out of context. Just to make the bible sound bad. Like I said, I would not mock Him if I were you.
Psalm 14:1 Only fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil;I never thought I would be posting in support of Arealhumanbeing maybe there is more than one real human being around.
You should explain the context. Those babies are of those who are enemies of God. If I were you I would not mock Him.
There were no Christians at the time that psalm was depicting.
There were no Christians at the time that psalm was depicting.
Are you saying Christians do not currently claim EVERY WORD OF the Bible to be the IRREFUTABLE WORD OF GOD??
BLASPHEMER!!
There were no Christians at the time that psalm was depicting.
Are you saying Christians do not currently claim EVERY WORD OF the Bible to be the IRREFUTABLE WORD OF GOD??
BLASPHEMER!!
I am saying that Psalm was talking about a time before Jesus CHRIST. Thefore CHRISTianity could not exist. Stop trolling.
I am saying you should sit down and read The Bible through. Especially if you are going to speak about blasphemy. Obviously you have not.
The CIA chose the weaker and less intelligent as its subjects, which they thought to be homosexuals, racial minorities and military prisoners.
The CIA had a project called BLUEBIRD involving mind control. NASA has a project called BLUEBEAM. Hmmmm. I wonder if there is a relationship there.
AND were started in within a few years of each other.
Wow, almost within a decade. Define "few" for me will you fakebillnye?
Also do you condone the CIA singling out homosexuals, minorities and pirsoners for usage as mind control subjects? I don't. I think they should all be tried as criminals. The CIA should have their own Nuremburg.
The CIA chose the weaker and less intelligent as its subjects, which they thought to be homosexuals, racial minorities and military prisoners.
Furthermore, I don't know why you seem so intently focused on Project ARTICHOKE. In my opinion MK ULTRA was more detrimental to the CIA's tarnished reputation."
Your posts consistently lack proper formatting, it's always good for a laugh.
MK ULTRA spawned from Project ARTICHOKE, but they are hardly the same thing.
The pineal gland is not shaped like an artichoke, it is laughable how stupid you are being right now.
The shape of the gland resembles a pine cone, hence its name. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland
They look pretty similar to me. They both look like the pineal gland lolClimb down off your bandwagon, soapbox or high horse of whatever you're climbing on today and stop being such an idiot!
What does a CIA project about mind control have to do with parts of the brain? What a silly question...
An Overview of the Pineal Gland
Maintaining Circadian Rhythym
For being such a tiny structure, the pineal gland has a colorful and misunderstood history. It’s considered a somewhat mysterious organ, as its function was discovered last of the endocrine glands.
The pineal gland was once dubbed the “third eye,” which originated for many reasons, ranging from its location deep in the center of the brain to its connection to light. Also, the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes was fascinated with the pineal gland. He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.” However, his observations have been widely rejected.
And while researchers are still learning about the full purpose of the pineal gland, they believe it most likely concerns melatonin—the only hormone that the gland is known to produce and release.
Pineal Gland Essentials
- Of the endocrine organs, the function of the pineal gland was the last discovered.
- Located deep in the center of the brain, the pineal gland was once known as the “third eye.”
- The pineal gland produces melatonin, which helps maintain circadian rhythm and regulate reproductive hormones.
Reproductive hormones? So it has something to do with sleeping and sex? Maybe it is the seat of the soulThey look pretty similar to me. They both look like the pineal gland lolClimb down off your bandwagon, soapbox or high horse of whatever you're climbing on today and stop being such an idiot!
What does a CIA project about mind control have to do with parts of the brain? What a silly question...
(1) The shape of the earth was pretty much accepted as a sphere a few centuries BC.
(2) The heliocentric globe was gradually accepted from the time of Copernicus (unless you've rewritten history again).
All this rubbish is a bit rich coming from a 15-year-old kid - however did your mind get twisted at such a young age!
By the way, learn a bit of anatomy - things have moved on a little since mathematician René Descartes day:Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhDAn Overview of the Pineal Gland
Maintaining Circadian Rhythym
For being such a tiny structure, the pineal gland has a colorful and misunderstood history. It’s considered a somewhat mysterious organ, as its function was discovered last of the endocrine glands.
The pineal gland was once dubbed the “third eye,” which originated for many reasons, ranging from its location deep in the center of the brain to its connection to light. Also, the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes was fascinated with the pineal gland. He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.” However, his observations have been widely rejected.
And while researchers are still learning about the full purpose of the pineal gland, they believe it most likely concerns melatonin—the only hormone that the gland is known to produce and release.
Pineal Gland Essentials
- Of the endocrine organs, the function of the pineal gland was the last discovered.
- Located deep in the center of the brain, the pineal gland was once known as the “third eye.”
- The pineal gland produces melatonin, which helps maintain circadian rhythm and regulate reproductive hormones.
What about learning a few things before you make more of an utter fool of yourself!
An Overview of the Pineal Gland
He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.
Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhDAn Overview of the Pineal Gland
He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.
An Overview of the Pineal Gland
Maintaining Circadian Rhythym
For being such a tiny structure, the pineal gland has a colorful and misunderstood history. It’s considered a somewhat mysterious organ, as its function was discovered last of the endocrine glands.
The pineal gland was once dubbed the “third eye,” which originated for many reasons, ranging from its location deep in the center of the brain to its connection to light. Also, the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes was fascinated with the pineal gland. He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.” However, his observations have been widely rejected.
Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhDAn Overview of the Pineal GlandOh look, a deceptively out of context quote! Quit lying, Arealhumanbeing.
He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.
(http://i.imgur.com/XmBFFte.jpg)
Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhDAn Overview of the Pineal Gland
He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.It looks like you are up to your old deceptive practices!Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhDAn Overview of the Pineal Gland
Maintaining Circadian Rhythym
For being such a tiny structure, the pineal gland has a colorful and misunderstood history. It’s considered a somewhat mysterious organ, as its function was discovered last of the endocrine glands.
The pineal gland was once dubbed the “third eye,” which originated for many reasons, ranging from its location deep in the center of the brain to its connection to light. Also, the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes was fascinated with the pineal gland. He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.” However, his observations have been widely rejected.
It was the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes who regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.”
Not Robert M. Sargis MD, PhD as you claim.Either you are incredibly poor at reading comprehension, or are deliberately trying to deceive us - which is it?
You even try to cover up your deception by not giving a link. Looks like we still have to watch you like a hawk!
Yes, as you kindly warn us, we certainly need to Be Aware of the tactics some modern day deceivers get up to.
America almost became allied with Nazis in the 40's. There was a lot of debate in American politics if America should side with Russia or Germany. Roosevelt decided to side with Russia. There were many American businessmen that had business with Nazi Germany and many Americans has very similar views when it comes to society as the Nazis did. Look at the race relations in 1940's America, Jews were not very much liked, and the Blacks pretty much had no rights at all. So yes America and Germany had a lot in common. When the war was over The Nazi ideology in America really picked up. Many Nazis scientists started to work for American military and NASA. The idea of corporations is straight from Nazis, our judicial system closely resembling the one in Nazi Germany and much more. So yes no surprise that CIA and Nazis have a lot in common.I don't really think that's true. I don't believe America almost became allied with the Nazis at all. That would mean declaring war against Great Britain and I don't really see that happening in those circumstances. I do believe there was a push for us to stay neutral though.
America almost became allied with Nazis in the 40's. There was a lot of debate in American politics if America should side with Russia or Germany. Roosevelt decided to side with Russia. There were many American businessmen that had business with Nazi Germany and many Americans has very similar views when it comes to society as the Nazis did. Look at the race relations in 1940's America, Jews were not very much liked, and the Blacks pretty much had no rights at all. So yes America and Germany had a lot in common. When the war was over The Nazi ideology in America really picked up. Many Nazis scientists started to work for American military and NASA. The idea of corporations is straight from Nazis, our judicial system closely resembling the one in Nazi Germany and much more. So yes no surprise that CIA and Nazis have a lot in common.
germany and Russia were never allied. They had a non aggression agreement.America almost became allied with Nazis in the 40's. There was a lot of debate in American politics if America should side with Russia or Germany. Roosevelt decided to side with Russia. There were many American businessmen that had business with Nazi Germany and many Americans has very similar views when it comes to society as the Nazis did. Look at the race relations in 1940's America, Jews were not very much liked, and the Blacks pretty much had no rights at all. So yes America and Germany had a lot in common. When the war was over The Nazi ideology in America really picked up. Many Nazis scientists started to work for American military and NASA. The idea of corporations is straight from Nazis, our judicial system closely resembling the one in Nazi Germany and much more. So yes no surprise that CIA and Nazis have a lot in common.
Germany and Russia were already allied at that time, dip shit.
The King James Version is objectively outdated and contains many misinterpretations and even more poorly translated quotes.Incorrect.
The NIV is the most widely accepted version, and it is what I posted.
The King James Version is objectively outdated and contains many misinterpretations and even more poorly translated quotes.
The NIV is the most widely accepted version, and it is what I posted.
germany and Russia were never allied. They had a non aggression agreement.America almost became allied with Nazis in the 40's. There was a lot of debate in American politics if America should side with Russia or Germany. Roosevelt decided to side with Russia. There were many American businessmen that had business with Nazi Germany and many Americans has very similar views when it comes to society as the Nazis did. Look at the race relations in 1940's America, Jews were not very much liked, and the Blacks pretty much had no rights at all. So yes America and Germany had a lot in common. When the war was over The Nazi ideology in America really picked up. Many Nazis scientists started to work for American military and NASA. The idea of corporations is straight from Nazis, our judicial system closely resembling the one in Nazi Germany and much more. So yes no surprise that CIA and Nazis have a lot in common.
Germany and Russia were already allied at that time, dip shit.
No I wouldn't. There was no agreement to defend each other which is the root of an alliance. Their agreement was simply that they would not attack each other. The US was never going to ally itself with Germany. That was simply not on the table. At best Germany hoped they would stay out of the war. So, no, there was never a serious discussion as to which side of the war the US would enter, only whether it would enter at all.germany and Russia were never allied. They had a non aggression agreement.America almost became allied with Nazis in the 40's. There was a lot of debate in American politics if America should side with Russia or Germany. Roosevelt decided to side with Russia. There were many American businessmen that had business with Nazi Germany and many Americans has very similar views when it comes to society as the Nazis did. Look at the race relations in 1940's America, Jews were not very much liked, and the Blacks pretty much had no rights at all. So yes America and Germany had a lot in common. When the war was over The Nazi ideology in America really picked up. Many Nazis scientists started to work for American military and NASA. The idea of corporations is straight from Nazis, our judicial system closely resembling the one in Nazi Germany and much more. So yes no surprise that CIA and Nazis have a lot in common.
Germany and Russia were already allied at that time, dip shit.
They had an agreement to not attack each other and split Poland and other countries. Sounds like they were pretty friendly towards each other, if not ALLIED, would you not say?
I would just like to point out that after hitler commited suicide, US and German forces ended up teaming up to fight off the S.S. who remained aggressive until the end. And guess what, those Nazi scientists who came to america after, many of them were S.S.So far track record on history is pretty bad so I would have to confirm all of that. But, regardless, it doesn't change the fact that all that stuff you said about US potentially allying with Germany is absolutely wrong.
I would just like to point out that after hitler commited suicide, US and German forces ended up teaming up to fight off the S.S. who remained aggressive until the end. And guess what, those Nazi scientists who came to america after, many of them were S.S.So far track record on history is pretty bad so I would have to confirm all of that. But, regardless, it doesn't change the fact that all that stuff you said about US potentially allying with Germany is absolutely wrong.
My mistake. I confused you with a different user. You did not claim the US might have sided with Germany. My sincere apologies.I would just like to point out that after hitler commited suicide, US and German forces ended up teaming up to fight off the S.S. who remained aggressive until the end. And guess what, those Nazi scientists who came to america after, many of them were S.S.So far track record on history is pretty bad so I would have to confirm all of that. But, regardless, it doesn't change the fact that all that stuff you said about US potentially allying with Germany is absolutely wrong.
You are such a fucking troll. I never said anything about the US siding with Germany. It just goes to show how little you actually care, and how desperate you are to muddle the name of anyone who believes in flat earth.
Apology not accepted. Maybe if you admitted your mistake in thinking that earth is a sphere, I would.My mistake was assigning a statement to you that you did not make. I admitted that mistake, you can act like an adult and accept the apology or you act like a child and huff and puff over it. Makes no difference to me.
Apology not accepted. Maybe if you admitted your mistake in thinking that earth is a sphere, I would.Why would anyone even think that it was a mistake when you seem to offer no evidence for it and no flat earth model explains numerous things that I see around me?
You, N30 and Totallackey in particular seem to think that because you simply that the earth is flat, it must be.
You, N30 and Totallackey in particular seem to think that because you simply that the earth is flat, it must be.
Im sorry I cant understand you, maybe you calm down and accept that the earth is flat.
I can't help your lack of understanding.You, N30 and Totallackey in particular seem to think that because you simply that the earth is flat, it must be.Im sorry I cant understand you, maybe you calm down and accept that the earth is flat.
You, N30 and Totallackey in particular seem to think that because you simply that the earth is flat, it must be.
Im sorry I cant understand you, maybe you calm down and accept that the earth is flat.
Once a TLF always a TLF.....people never change, by the way looser the earth is a sphere.
I'm quite calm. But I still have seen no evidence from you other than a bald claim "that the earth is flat".You, N30 and Totallackey in particular seem to think that because you simply that the earth is flat, it must be.
Im sorry I cant understand you, maybe you calm down and accept that the earth is flat.
Likewise, If a 15 year old kid came out with the bald claim "that the earth is flat", I wouldn't believe him without strong evidence.
Sure, but I would expect flat earthers to have some evidence that the earth is flat.Likewise, If a 15 year old kid came out with the bald claim "that the earth is flat", I wouldn't believe him without strong evidence.
Thats the thing though, its not just me. I mean youre posting on a website made by flat earthers.
So many flat earthers, including John Davis and Gotham seem under the impression that the flat earth will soon be accepted all over the ;) Globe ;) in the near future.
Without solid evidence it's not going to happen.
Could you maybe share some of that evidence? Because everything I have seen is easily debunked. I have never seen a legitimate explaination of sunrises or sunsets. I have never seen a legitimate explaination of travel times in the Southern Hemisphere. Just to name a few.
So many flat earthers, including John Davis and Gotham seem under the impression that the flat earth will soon be accepted all over the ;) Globe ;) in the near future.
Without solid evidence it's not going to happen.
You can say its not going to happen over and over and you can say there isnt any evidence again and again but it doesnt make it any more true! I have seen plenty of evidence. Its all over the place, everywhere you look. Ask the next passerby you meet on the road, you may be surprised at what shape they think the earth is!
A flat earth map should be the easiest thing in the world to produce and yet there is not one that matches observable facts.
So show me an accurate flat earth map. Explain sunrise. I have created threads asking these questions and gotten no valid answers.A flat earth map should be the easiest thing in the world to produce and yet there is not one that matches observable facts.
THE EVIDENCE IS EVERYWHERE. You are posting on a site FILLED WITH EVIDENCE. Do you even know how maps are made??? Would you consider that the easiest thing in the world???
YOU created threads?? OH MY APOLOGIES. I did not realize you made every single important thread available!!! Im sure you were just the sweetest little thing to all the flat earthers who responded as well.Generally speaking I try to be polite, act like an adult and so on. So about that map. Do you have one that fits real world observations? Can you explain sunrises?
ARE YOU A FUCKING ROBOT? Do you just ask the same things over and over again? Wheres your evidence? Wheres your evidence? Wheres your evidence?You were the one who said the evidence was everywhere. I'm just asking to see a couple of examples of that. You may have noticed a theme here. I am only skiing you to support the claims YOU are making. That seems like a pretty reasonable position to me on a discussion board.
"Can i see examples of evidence? (shown evidence) NO! FALSE! STUPID! Can i see examples of evidence? (Shown different evidence) WHAT? IMPOSSIBLE! STUPID!" - BadxtossI do. You show what you think is evidence, I show how it is incorrect or not actually supported, you try again. I don't believe I have ever simply said it was stupid or just claimed impossible. I have tried to show why that particular piece was inaccurate, or simply false.
See a pattern developing?
Wow. This guy just continues to dig his hole deeper and deeper, without ever realizing it. Kinda sad, but amusing at the same time.It is isn't it?
A flat earth map should be the easiest thing in the world to produce and yet there is not one that matches observable facts.
THE EVIDENCE IS EVERYWHERE. You are posting on a site FILLED WITH EVIDENCE. Do you even know how maps are made??? Would you consider that the easiest thing in the world???
ARE YOU A FUCKING ROBOT? Do you just ask the same things over and over again? Wheres your evidence? Wheres your evidence? Wheres your evidence?
Can I be on record as saying I'll gladly donate 20 bucks, greenbacks, or whatever to have John Davies shipped off in a create. 'no airholes required' ......If we all contribute we could put together quite a consignment; Arealhumanbeing, Sceptimatic, papa legwho, Jora......all in all it would be $100 well spent.
Any luck on that flat earth map that fits real world observations?Can I be on record as saying I'll gladly donate 20 bucks, greenbacks, or whatever to have John Davies shipped off in a create. 'no airholes required' ......If we all contribute we could put together quite a consignment; Arealhumanbeing, Sceptimatic, papa legwho, Jora......all in all it would be $100 well spent.
Oh, are you threatening me with death again? Im afraid if that persists, you will end up in court with a judges gavel up your ass for repeated threats of violence. Should i post your other nasty violent comments?
What use would the CIA have for researching mind control?
Pump them full of MDMA, they'll start talkin..
What use would the CIA have for researching mind control?
Interrogation. If they could force an enemy spy to divulge classified information, that could be considered beneficial. Especially during the Cold War.
Warping the mind could be considered worse. Some of the experiments in MK ULTRA describe victims locked in solitary confinement, in pitch dark, secretly dosed with copious amounts of LSD. Souns insanity inducing to me, but I don't know what kind of answers one could expect to obtain from somebody in such a state.What use would the CIA have for researching mind control?
Interrogation. If they could force an enemy spy to divulge classified information, that could be considered beneficial. Especially during the Cold War.
Wow. Why not just start chopping off fingers and toes? Which one is more cruel? Warping a mind irreparably or a few physical setbacks?
Or would they...? What HAS the CIA been up to? Protecting our national safety? Yeah... About that....
Operation Northwoods was a series of false flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962, but were rejected by the Kennedy administration. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or other operatives, to commit perceived acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere.
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe. Regardless of who did it
My point stands. You have nothing sensical to say to proof that the CIA was planning terror attacks on its own country. Why wouldnt they lie about space if they are willing to KILL its own citizens.And what does the CIA have to do with the space program, other than getting their own "spy satellites" launched?
ResistQuestion authority
Nice deflection. Are you Lonegrangers alternate account? Lol Anyways, this is the wrong thread, there are plently for the logistics of the flat earth map, go find it. This thread is about the possible enslavment of humanity by a small entity of global elitists and their misinformation and deception campaign. Heres a question... What use would the CIA have for researching mind control?
How do you know? Im sure you would claim that everyone working at mission control during the moon missions must be lying too. But in reality they are just as fooled as you. What did they experience other than watching some television screens. They pressed some buttons when they were told to press them. No, they were not involved, they were the saps that set the false reality into the populaces minds like concrete.Lol mission control was but a small part of the enormous project.
How do you know? Im sure you would claim that everyone working at mission control during the moon missions must be lying too. But in reality they are just as fooled as you. What did they experience other than watching some television screens. They pressed some buttons when they were told to press them. No, they were not involved, they were the saps that set the false reality into the populaces minds like concrete.And how would a 15 year old scientist know this?
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
No but for real dude, that one is totally true. I've seen it. Well not actually, but I have incontrovertible evidence of it. And by that I mean I'm pretty sure that's the case so since you can't prove otherwise it must be true. Why are you sheeple attacking me over this? It's simple logic! Free your minds! The truth is out there you just have to, hey let's go ride our bikes.Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
Either that or you "jumped the shark" with evermore looney conspiracy theories.
What's next Nazi Reptillian shapeshifters and their secret moon base?
I think I've cracked it...I knew it!
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It was easy once I knew how... :)
Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe. Regardless of who did it
Wow, what a lame response.Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe. Regardless of who did it
Yeah sure... Many people already believe the US government is lying about the events on 9/11, so it would behoove the flat earth cause to reiterate the decidely deceptive day when the government so blatently lied about the deaths of so many... If they are willing to lie about killing people, you really think lying about space travel and its findings is beyond their capacity?Yeah, like I said, one has nothing to do with the other. You could argue they lied about 911 but the fact that the earth is round has been proven repeatedly by countless people throughout history.
A spherical Earth has been proven in the same way "global" warming has been proven; It hasnt.
No, global warming is nonsense. Just like the globe. Globe globe globe, gotta stick it in everyones head. Are you like Al Gore, Rayzor? Do you preach that global warming is caused by humanity, but then hop in a gas guzzling limo and fly in oh so economical private jets? Yes, global warming is a hoax, just like the ball earth.
A spherical Earth has been proven in the same way "global" warming has been proven; It hasnt.
No, global warming is nonsense. Just like the globe. Globe globe globe, gotta stick it in everyones head. Are you like Al Gore, Rayzor? Do you preach that global warming is caused by humanity, but then hop in a gas guzzling limo and fly in oh so economical private jets? Yes, global warming is a hoax, just like the ball earth.
No, global warming is nonsense. Just like the globe. Globe globe globe, gotta stick it in everyones head. Are you like Al Gore, Rayzor? Do you preach that global warming is caused by humanity, but then hop in a gas guzzling limo and fly in oh so economical private jets? Yes, global warming is a hoax, just like the ball earth.
A spherical Earth has been proven in the same way "global" warming has been proven; It hasnt.
No, global warming is nonsense. Just like the globe. Globe globe globe, gotta stick it in everyones head. Are you like Al Gore, Rayzor? Do you preach that global warming is caused by humanity, but then hop in a gas guzzling limo and fly in oh so economical private jets? Yes, global warming is a hoax, just like the ball earth.
Time for you to put up or shut up, take your time do the research and explain to me how lunar eclipses occur on a flat earth.
I think you are a fake flat earther who actually knows next to nothing about flat earth theory. I'm calling your bluff.
Wow, what a lame response.Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe. Regardless of who did it
Wow, what a lame response.Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe. Regardless of who did it
Wow, what a lame response.
The difference, I believe, is that hoppy quite voluntarily accuses people of being "paid not to" "see any connection"Wow, what a lame response.Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe. Regardless of who did it
Wow, what a lame response.
What a lame response to the lame response.
Wow, what a lame response.Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe. Regardless of who did it
Wow, what a lame response.
What a lame response to the lame response.
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The difference, I believe, is that hoppy quite voluntarily accuses people of being "paid not to" "see any connection"Wow, what a lame response.Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe. Regardless of who did it
Wow, what a lame response.
What a lame response to the lame response.
while jroa is paid to come up with posts like "Wow, what a lame response" simply to derail threads.
What a lame response.The difference, I believe, is that hoppy quite voluntarily accuses people of being "paid not to" "see any connection"Wow, what a lame response.Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe. Regardless of who did it
Wow, what a lame response.
What a lame response to the lame response.
while jroa is paid to come up with posts like "Wow, what a lame response" simply to derail threads.
You really are a dummy. I did not come up with that; I repeated it. Are you taking your meds, or do we need to call the authourities to check on you?
Yeah, there is a connection between the false flag attack of 9/11 and flat earth. Both truths are being supressed by the same entity. And theyre gonna pay. Big time.::) ::) Seems something a bit odd there. ::) ::)
Then just when did this Globe Earth movement start?
If the early Islamic astronomers did not believe that the earth was a Globe:
Why would Al Biruni in around 1,000 AD make measurements of the circumference of the earth using Eratosthenes' method and the radius using the "dip angle to the horizon". Al Biruni did this careful measurement to assist the Muslims of the time in their Qiblah.
If the early monks did not believe the earth a Globe why would we find this:QuoteOne of the best-known proponents of a globe-shaped earth was the early English monk, theologian and historian, the Venerable Bede (673–735), who popularized the common BC/AD dating system. Less well known was that he was also a leading astronomer of his day.
In his book On the Reckoning of Time (De temporum ratione), among other things he calculated the creation of the world to be in 3952 BC, showed how to calculate the date of Easter, and explicitly taught that the earth was round. From this, he showed why the length of days and nights changed with the seasons, and how tides were dragged by the moon. Bede was the first with this insight, while Galileo explained the tides wrongly centuries later.
Here is what Bede said about the shape of the earth—round “like a ball” not “like a shield”:
“We call the earth a globe, not as if the shape of a sphere were expressed in the diversity of plains and mountains, but because, if all things are included in the outline, the earth’s circumference will represent the figure of a perfect globe. … For truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe; in its width it is like a circle, and not circular like a shield but rather like a ball, and it extends from its centre with perfect roundness on all sides.”
Looks like this Globe idea started before the time of the Venerable Bede (673–735) and note that he was very specific about the shape "represent the figure of a perfect globe".
So, what about the ancient Greeks:
If the ancient Greeks did not believe the earth was a Globe and the sun and moon far away why would
Eratosthenes be measuring the circumference of the earth around 250 BC?
and Hipparchus be estimating the distance to the moon using a partial eclipse in around 200 BC?.
I will agree that if we go back to earlier Greeks and to the Babylonians we do find that the earth was thought to be flat.
But, there is a massive difference between the current flat earth and the Babylonian version.
The Babylonians had the stars in a great celestial sphere that rotated around their flat earth.The sun and moon also rose and set behind the horizon. Belief varied, with ideas like coming from and entering "the underworld". The Babylonian astronomy worked well, the current flat earth astronomy doesn't work at all.
Yeah, there is a connection between the false flag attack of 9/11 and flat earth. Both truths are being supressed by the same entity. And theyre gonna pay. Big time.
Yeah, you would like me to stop wouldnt you. I bet youde like my address and where ill be protesting next as well. Not gonna happen.
The time for change is now. Go outside, take a good look at all the zombies staring at their phones and tell me humanity is supposed to be like that.
Who controls your life? You? Or the government?
Who decides how much your money is worth?
Who tells you how much time you need to spend at work to be able to pay your taxes, and rent, and bills.
Who is slowly whittling away at human rights? Who is adding the word "reasonable" in every other law and ordinance instead of definitive text?
Who voted the freemason symbol on American money?
I for one am sick of not being in control of my own life, and when the Resistance begins marching with their rifles slung, and their banners waving, with the cops on their way to "cease and desist" for "disturbing the peace", youll know whats really going on.
If you do please let me know, if it is doing anything useful I may join it, might even help finance it if it's doing something worthwhile.
You can label me all you want
You can label me all you want, but when you see legions of armed citizens taking back our rights as humans, and tearing down the oppression of the government, youll know exactly what I am.Self proclaimed leader of the second American revolution? No one would even let you cut their sandwich.
Go on, call me some more names!
It only gives me an idea of what you fear.
Lol Thats the best you got? Ive got a bag of rust and aluminum shavings all ready to pack up into some anti oppression presents for some certain people.
Nah man, youre wrong! I did prove it and the flat earth model is constantly being improved. Ide point out errors with the ball earth model, but youde just call them rubbish! And then claim i never bring up any valid points! LolJust give me a link to where you proved the earth flat!
And please show me one coherent flat earth model, the one you subscribe to!
What globe "model" do you believe in Rab? I mean not all globularists can even agree on the shape of the Earth, why are you so pushy about getting every last detail about my view of the world? Why not STAY ON TOPIC? Hhmmmm? You deceiving derailing troll! And at the moment the topic is the very scary, very real threat of governments abusing their power, and how to stop them.I have no interest in your silly Blue Beam rubbish, but I am very interested in your persistent claim that "The Earth is Flat" and calling all who honestly disagree liars.
World Geodetic System (WGS84)Now, satellite mapping has shown that the shape deviates very slightly from the "WGS84 Reference Ellipsoid", but only in the order of a hundred metres or so. This might be neither here nor there for you and me, but it is significant in GPS calculations.
The World Geodetic System (WGS84) is the reference coordinate system used by the Global Positioning System. It comprises of a reference ellipsoid, a standard coordinate system, altitude data and a geoid.
Much more in: GISGeography, World Geodetic System (WGS84) (http://gisgeography.com/)
Nah man, youre wrong! I did prove it and the flat earth model is constantly being improved. Ide point out errors with the ball earth model, but youde just call them rubbish! And then claim i never bring up any valid points! LolJust give me a link to where you proved the earth flat!
And please show me one coherent flat earth model, the one you subscribe to!
Never have I ever seen a curved horizon.
Always have I seen a flat horizon.
Maybe if I go high enough it will curve
Even after launching a balloon, i cannot see a curved horizon.Earth is flat.
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How many people here have heard of this uncanny plan? I was unconvinced of its validity until I realized how easy it could become a reality, if Earth is indeed a flat plane. The need to create a fake space program becomes imperative in establishing the idea that we are but a speck in the universe. With this new outlook implemented in the mind of almost every person, it is much easier to accept the existence of aliens, especially now that we have "landed" on the moon ourselves. If we are actually inside of a type of enclosure, the "firmament", it would stand as an excellent screen for projecting everything from UFOs to the appearance of a godly being. It seems almost too perfect to be a coincidence to me.Bill Clinton here, I can confirm that project blue beam exists and is used to create holograms in the stratosphere such as the "moon" and the "ISS" in order to help convince you that the earth is round.l
I don't think this is the real Bill Clinton. What else is he going to lie about?
I don't think this is the real Bill Clinton. What else is he going to lie about?
I am the real Bill Clinton I promise.
As Bill Clinton I can confirm I am the real Bill Clinton.I don't think this is the real Bill Clinton. What else is he going to lie about?
I am the real Bill Clinton I promise.
We require a DNA sample.
As Bill Clinton I can confirm I am the real Bill Clinton.I don't think this is the real Bill Clinton. What else is he going to lie about?
I am the real Bill Clinton I promise.
We require a DNA sample.
I don't think this is the real Bill Clinton. What else is he going to lie about?Maybe what the definition of is is?
What evidence do YOU need to believe the truth, that Earth is flat!? If YOU launched a balloon and could not see a curve, where there was supposedly one, what would you do? Turn a blind eye and ignore it? I think not!
I like how rab posted a great list of evidence and observations, things you can easily check out yourself, but you completely ignored them.What evidence do YOU need to believe the truth, that Earth is flat!? If YOU launched a balloon and could not see a curve, where there was supposedly one, what would you do? Turn a blind eye and ignore it? I think not!
Answer I got to my question?
Hi! Im Bill Clinton durrr hurrr hurrrrr
Because its the same copypasta he always hocks. I like how fake accounts are flooding this thread and you ignore that. Also rabs post was off topic and just an attempt to detract from the real issue. The CIA wants people enslaved.He always backs up his posts with facts, figures, and evidence. However your point about it being off topic is valid.
Why should you care indeed, mr. Fake account.That's what I'm asking. Why should I care? What difference does it make? And what exactly is a fake account? I have one account here, is that real or fake?
Why should you care indeed, mr. Fake account.That's what I'm asking. Why should I care? What difference does it make? And what exactly is a fake account? I have one account here, is that real or fake?
You're not too bright if you do..Why should you care indeed, mr. Fake account.That's what I'm asking. Why should I care? What difference does it make? And what exactly is a fake account? I have one account here, is that real or fake?
Oh im sorry, do you think bill clinton and obama actually posted here?
Uhm no. The question was why should I care about fake accounts.Why should you care indeed, mr. Fake account.That's what I'm asking. Why should I care? What difference does it make? And what exactly is a fake account? I have one account here, is that real or fake?
Oh im sorry, do you think bill clinton and obama actually posted here?
The CIA wants people enslaved.
And why should I care about a fake 15-year-old scientist who pretends to be Arealhumanbeing.Oh im sorry, do you think bill clinton and obama actually posted here?Uhm no. The question was why should I care about fake accounts.
Thanks for pointing this out. Aside from the rubbish written on it, it does line up perfectly with astrological points in the sky. Something that wouldn't be possible on a flat earth. You are the Globalist's best weapon.The Georgia Guidestones(http://www.radioliberty.com/gg3.gif)
Excellent evidence for the validity and clear and present danger of Project Blue Beam.
The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields:
(1) Governance and the establishment of a world government,
(2) Population and reproduction control,
(3) The environment and man's relationship to nature, and
(4) Spirituality.
The origin of that strange monument is shrouded in mystery because no one knows the true identity of the man, or men, who commissioned its construction.
He identified himself as R. C. Christian, but it soon became apparent that was not his real name. He said that he represented a group of men who wanted to offer direction to humanity, but to date, almost two decades later, no one knows who R. C. Christian really was, or the names of those he represented.
Above text cited below
(http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm)Freemasons built that monument.You are a slave to them.Wake up.
Lol Why are rocks pointing towards the sky impossible on a flat Earth?They line up with astrological entities that could only be possible on a spherical earth. You are such a dope.
Oh, rubbish written on it?
Arent you curious as to why that "rubbish" was even allowed to be created and made into a public monument?
Also why the creators are kept anonymous?
Lol Why are rocks pointing towards the sky impossible on a flat Earth?It was paid for by private individuals and erected on private land. Why would anyone stop it?
Oh, rubbish written on it?
Arent you curious as to why that "rubbish" was even allowed to be created and made into a public monument?
Also why the creators are kept anonymous?
Its a public monument visited by many every day.I'm not sure how the law works in terms of citing people to violence, but there are certainly places that have pro Nazi signs etc. and yes, if it was paired for privately and is on private property it would legal and the government would have no authority to shut it down.
You sound like the kind of person who would defend the man erecting a stone on a plot of land that says GO NAZIS- KILL ALL JEWS.
I mean if its on private property and he pays for it, its ok right?
NO U!!!
You know you're lying.Lying about what secifically
You know you're lying.Lying about what secifically
Again, lying about what, specifically?You know you're lying.
Lying about what secifically
You think people have rights! They dont! If the government wants something gone, guess what, its gonna happen. Because what is a lowly citizen going to do about it!? Sue? You cant even sue the government unless they say you can!
Its a public monument visited by many every day.I'm not sure how the law works in terms of citing people to violence, but there are certainly places that have pro Nazi signs etc. and yes, if it was paired for privately and is on private property it would legal and the government would have no authority to shut it down.
You sound like the kind of person who would defend the man erecting a stone on a plot of land that says GO NAZIS- KILL ALL JEWS.
I mean if its on private property and he pays for it, its ok right?
And yet there are plenty of pro Nazi websites and compounds. There was no lie.Its a public monument visited by many every day.I'm not sure how the law works in terms of citing people to violence, but there are certainly places that have pro Nazi signs etc. and yes, if it was paired for privately and is on private property it would legal and the government would have no authority to shut it down.
You sound like the kind of person who would defend the man erecting a stone on a plot of land that says GO NAZIS- KILL ALL JEWS.
I mean if its on private property and he pays for it, its ok right?
There. Quite specifically. There is your lie, and you know it.
The governments of the world have no authority to do ALOT of things, but they do them anyway.
I will, but not under those conditions. You must spray paint across the front entrance "earth is flat and rockets aren't real". During working hours. It would help if you had a loaded gun in your pocket, and, oh, I don't know, an 8 ball of coke in your other pocket. Fulfill these conditions, and I will never ever come back. Scouts honor.
I do indeed have a gun and a license to carry.
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I will, but not under those conditions. You must spray paint across the front entrance "earth is flat and rockets aren't real". During working hours. It would help if you had a loaded gun in your pocket, and, oh, I don't know, an 8 ball of coke in your other pocket. Fulfill these conditions, and I will never ever come back. Scouts honor.
No answer? Afraid Ill actually do it and post a picture like in the other thread?So which is it? You're 15 or you have a carry permit?
You better think about this question. Either way it makes you out to be a liar, which you keep slinging around here. Face it, you're in a corner with no way out but to admit you're lying.No answer? Afraid Ill actually do it and post a picture like in the other thread?So which is it? You're 15 or you have a carry permit?
You better think about this question. Either way it makes you out to be a liar, which you keep slinging around here. Face it, you're in a corner with no way out but to admit you're lying.No answer? Afraid Ill actually do it and post a picture like in the other thread?So which is it? You're 15 or you have a carry permit?
You better think about this question. Either way it makes you out to be a liar, which you keep slinging around here. Face it, you're in a corner with no way out but to admit you're lying.No answer? Afraid Ill actually do it and post a picture like in the other thread?So which is it? You're 15 or you have a carry permit?
My age is about is real as your name Ionspen.
Or should I call you a liar for not entering in the name your mother and father gave you?
My age is about is real as your name Ionspen.
Or should I call you a liar for not entering in the name your mother and father gave you?
Aha! So fifteen is just your user-age. Is your dislike for Nazis just a user-dislike as well?
I bet irl you're a grouchy, septuagenarian. And also a Nazi.
My age is about is real as your name Ionspen.
Or should I call you a liar for not entering in the name your mother and father gave you?
Aha! So fifteen is just your user-age. Is your dislike for Nazis just a user-dislike as well?
I bet irl you're a grouchy, septuagenarian. And also a Nazi.
Have you ever looked at my user age? It is a bullshit number answered to a bullshit question in a forum profile as well. Why does it bother you? Did you put your real birthday in your user profile? If so, can I have your social security number and your mother"s maiden name as well? Perhaps you can provide a credit card number so that your information can be verified?
My age is about is real as your name Ionspen.
Or should I call you a liar for not entering in the name your mother and father gave you?
Aha! So fifteen is just your user-age. Is your dislike for Nazis just a user-dislike as well?
I bet irl you're a grouchy, septuagenarian. And also a Nazi.
Have you ever looked at my user age? It is a bullshit number answered to a bullshit question in a forum profile as well. Why does it bother you? Did you put your real birthday in your user profile? If so, can I have your social security number and your mother"s maiden name as well? Perhaps you can provide a credit card number so that your information can be verified?
I don't spend much time looking at your profile. Sorry to disappoint you.
I couldn't care less how old ARHB is and no have not intention of posting any of the stuff you asked for.
Why does my post bother you? Is he one of your alts or something?
ARHB is a big boy I'm sure he can speak for himself!
My age is about is real as your name Ionspen.
Or should I call you a liar for not entering in the name your mother and father gave you?
Aha! So fifteen is just your user-age. Is your dislike for Nazis just a user-dislike as well?
I bet irl you're a grouchy, septuagenarian. And also a Nazi.
Have you ever looked at my user age? It is a bullshit number answered to a bullshit question in a forum profile as well. Why does it bother you? Did you put your real birthday in your user profile? If so, can I have your social security number and your mother"s maiden name as well? Perhaps you can provide a credit card number so that your information can be verified?
I don't spend much time looking at your profile. Sorry to disappoint you.
I couldn't care less how old ARHB is and no have not intention of posting any of the stuff you asked for.
Why does my post bother you? Is he one of your alts or something?
ARHB is a big boy I'm sure he can speak for himself!
You people have been hounding him about the age in his user profile. Nobody has ever done this to me, so I feel left out. Sort of like when you are the only child that your uncle does not melest. :'(
You people have been hounding him about the age in his user profile. Nobody has ever done this to me, so I feel left out. Sort of like when you are the only child that your uncle does not molest. :'(I do apologise, but since you age of 4 seems about right, there seems no reason to comment.
I'll see if I can get Rab to lead the charge on that. We can't have you feeling left out!
rabinoz is the one to tell people that they act like a grumpy old man. ::)
When a bizarre event was captured on film showing what appeared to be dark skyscrapers floating in the clouds above China, the world was puzzled.
While scientists were quick to dismiss the occurrence as a mirage, not all agreed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/technology/project-blue-beam-conspiracy-theory-suggests-nasa-has-secret-plans-to-create-new-world-order/news-story/25266f2c57e89e139f0fa9daddeb0953
Mirage of Chicago skyline seen from Michigan shoreline.
This creates a bending or ducting effect where the light (image) instead of going in a normal straight line into space, curves back towards the surface of the earth.
http://www.abc57.com/story/28925566/mirage-of-chicago-skyline-seen-from-michigan-shoreline
So you claim that the city was really floating in the clouds?Mirage City(https://amp-news-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w1200/s/amp.news.com.au/image/v1/6ca5a0fab7ca52df4b4a2c07d12b2bb2)QuoteWhen a bizarre event was captured on film showing what appeared to be dark skyscrapers floating in the clouds above China, the world was puzzled.
While scientists were quick to dismiss the occurrence as a mirage, not all agreed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/technology/project-blue-beam-conspiracy-theory-suggests-nasa-has-secret-plans-to-create-new-world-order/news-story/25266f2c57e89e139f0fa9daddeb0953
. . . . . . . experts in Astronomy and science as well as Church doctrine including Tycho Brahe the greatest astronomer to have graced our earth.
Do you accuse everybody who disagrees with you if lying? Seems like it!Mirage City 2(http://wbnd.images.worldnow.com/images/7602503_G.jpg)Quote
Mirage of Chicago skyline seen from Michigan shoreline.
This creates a bending or ducting effect where the light (image) instead of going in a normal straight line into space, curves back towards the surface of the earth.
http://www.abc57.com/story/28925566/mirage-of-chicago-skyline-seen-from-michigan-shorelineWhat is it about lying globalists and mirages?
(http://wbnd.images.worldnow.com/images/7602503_G.jpg) Mirage of the Chicago Skyline from Grand Mere State Park | (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VuqBe8otbL2RHP18oWj5poK1MToC0Zq8Xp3AxSpLrBQ=w600-h392-no) Most of Chicago hidden - behind what? | (http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Horizon/Chicago%20Part%20Hidden_zpsjnph33tb.png) Oops, where has Chicago gone? |
Sounds like something a liar would say.I guess you would know.
Believe what you like Mr Arealhumanbeing but don't call others liars just because they honestly believe something different.
Don't worry, Arealhumanbeing, I listen to my own words, but you should try to imagine what others think of your accusations!Believe what you like Mr Arealhumanbeing but don't call others liars just because they honestly believe something different.
You should listen to your own words.
. . . . . . . . .İntikam falsely accused "Amundsen and his team" of being liars, and I challenged him on it.
They did nothing. Also today, there is no compass measurement shows that point as a poll. Compass is still showing anywhere else as south at there point. So Amunsden and his team were a liar, and the others too.
. . . . . . . . . .
Why isin't there at least one compass measurement at there. Shame on you, because of you join to the same lie!
Psychology Of Hatred Part II: Projection & Projective IdentificationLiars And Cheaters Worry The Most About Being Lied To And Cheated On (http://elitedaily.com/dating/liars-and-cheaters-worry-most/1053920/)
But in the real world, the defense mechanisms are a little more elaborate. For another example of a defense , let's look at "projection," and we are all familiar with this.
1) The angry person accuses someone else being angry
2) A liar accuses others of lying
3) The cheater accuses others of cheating
4) The thief accuses others of stealing (Notice how the thief is not accusing others of lying? No he's obsessed with only his own sins.)
From: Psychology Of Hatred Part II: Projection & Projective Identification (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/5/12/1187645/-Psychology-Of-Hatred-Part-II-Projection-Projective-Identification)
No, Rab, you ARE a liar.
Earth is flat.
Project Blue Beam is real.
Psychology Of Hatred Part II: Projection & Projective IdentificationLiars And Cheaters Worry The Most About Being Lied To And Cheated On (http://elitedaily.com/dating/liars-and-cheaters-worry-most/1053920/)
But in the real world, the defense mechanisms are a little more elaborate. For another example of a defense , let's look at "projection," and we are all familiar with this.
1) The angry person accuses someone else being angry
2) A liar accuses others of lying
3) The cheater accuses others of cheating
4) The thief accuses others of stealing (Notice how the thief is not accusing others of lying? No he's obsessed with only his own sins.)
From: Psychology Of Hatred Part II: Projection & Projective Identification (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/5/12/1187645/-Psychology-Of-Hatred-Part-II-Projection-Projective-Identification)
Oh so anyone who says " youre a liar" is automatically a liar themselves?I did not say that!
Youre such a fool Rab.You seem so confused about the shape of the earth that I take no heed to what you say.
Ill ask the question again.
What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
No, Rab, you ARE a liar.
Earth is flat.
Project Blue Beam is real.
Earth is flat.And yet you still have shown no evidence to support your flat earth statement
Wake up, the shills abound here!
Ill ask the question again.
What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
Earth is flat.And yet you still have shown no evidence to support your flat earth statement
Wake up, the shills abound here!
Ill ask the question again.
What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
No it is filled largely unsupported claims. There is no evidence here that does not also work, and usually better, for a round earth. You have certainly never offered any.Earth is flat.And yet you still have shown no evidence to support your flat earth statement
Wake up, the shills abound here!
Ill ask the question again.
What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
Says the guy posting on the FLAT EARTH website, filled with evidence for a FLAT EARTH, all while evading a question about the CIA....
No it is filled largely unsupported claims. There is no evidence here that does not also work, and usually better, for a round earth. You have certainly never offered any.Earth is flat.And yet you still have shown no evidence to support your flat earth statement
Wake up, the shills abound here!
Ill ask the question again.
What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
Says the guy posting on the FLAT EARTH website, filled with evidence for a FLAT EARTH, all while evading a question about the CIA....
Earth is flat.
Ill ask the question again.
What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
Ah yes, evidence like the lack of a curve from civilian aerial footage.The Globe earth needs no "defence", it is the only thing that works for innumerable things that are done every day.
That surely provides a stronger defense for a globe earth.
So, you well claim "EARTH is FLAT" because it seems the only thing you folk can agree on!
Which map? who knows? What makes things fall down? who knows? What are stars? who knows? or "little lights in the sky!" etc, etc.
(https://img.memesuper.com/85f60110e7cef0a3bad5459d19f44eb6_flat-earth-meme-27-1-meme-flat-earth_500-640.jpeg)Prove it
http://www.space.com/32030-space-ape-astronaut-scott-kelly-video.html
Its funny at first, but then you realize what it means and it gets real dark real fast...
Wake up people...
Earth is flat.
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.What looks flat to you? The inside of the ISS, the gorilla suit or the box it came out of?
NASA astronaut Scott Kelly isn't just flying an epic one-year mission in space. He's doing it with a sense of humor. Case in point: this hilarious ape escape video shot on the International Space Station.
Hes doing it with a sense of humor? Or is he doing it with my tax money.Maybe both?
Hes doing it with a sense of humor? Or is he doing it with my tax money.Maybe both?
Hes doing it with a sense of humor? Or is he doing it with my tax money.Maybe both?
I get it ;D ;D ;D
Plus I doubt a 15 year old pays any tax.
Also if Rab says you need a sense of humour it's serious.
Hes doing it with a sense of humor? Or is he doing it with my tax money.Maybe both?
I get it ;D ;D ;D
Plus I doubt a 15 year old pays any tax.
Also if Rab says you need a sense of humour it's serious.
Ill be laughing when the globalists are tar and feathered.
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.The fact that there is a hard edged horizon proves it is not flat.
Project Blue beam is all about showing the aliens are real and coming soon.
It will be a piece of cake, because hardly anyone uses their natural gift of visuality anymore.
''Look'' an alien mothership is recorded from the ISS,''there are ''Klingons'' on the starboard side'',.......now we have to disclose about extraterrestrial life and confess that Roswell was real all along.
Hurray for NASA and their willingness to reveal what the general public felt was going on all along. 8)
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.
You're the one with the revived theory that the earth is flat. It's up to you to prove that it is flat. Just like I have to prove that the earth is young because the majority of the population believes it is old.
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.
You're the one with the revived theory that the earth is flat. It's up to you to prove that it is flat. Just like I have to prove that the earth is young because the majority of the population believes it is old.
No, like you said, I revived an old theory. Its not mine, its mankinds original outlook on the shape of Earth.
I believe in it so strongly only in light of inconsistencies in the explanation of the current theory about the workings in our universe.
So, you may say I must prove that the Earth is flat, but when I can prove that it is not a globe, should we not look to previous explanations as to the nature and shape of our home?
In this day and age when there is so much death and destruction in the "global agenda", I do not see why purporters of a globe shaped Earth see fit to stall and delay with insistance that there is no proof of a flat Earth, when it exists.
Project Blue Beam is real, and if most of the worlds population can be fooled into thinking their home is shaped differently than it really is, than it should be fairly easy to make the same population think that fake aliens are attacking them, and that they must submit all their freedoms for the sake of survival.
Earth is flat.
God is real.
Aliens are fake.
Wake up and smell the government hoax.
"The government" has been saying there is no reliable evidence that space aliens exist. Is that the hoax?
I do !,...... all to cloak evil entities entering the visible realm while being introduced as cosmic civilisations from outerspace that are out there in abbundance.
"The government" has been saying there is no reliable evidence that space aliens exist. Is that the hoax?
The government also invented space and lie to us about it daily... You dont see the connection between fake space and fake aliens?
"The government" has been saying there is no reliable evidence that space aliens exist. Is that the hoax?
The government also invented space and lie to us about it daily...
You dont see the connection between fake space and fake aliens?
"The government" has been saying there is no reliable evidence that space aliens exist. Is that the hoax?
The government also invented space and lie to us about it daily...
Wow! That's a good one! Any evidence? Your opinion is not evidence.QuoteYou dont see the connection between fake space and fake aliens?
They both contain the word 'fake'. Both are two-word expressions. You seem obsessed with both. Are there others?
The first is a figment of your imagination, but the second is not known, so that's not a connection. 'Space' starts with a consonant, has five letters, and is singular while 'aliens' starts with a vowel, has six letters, and is plural, so not that, either (but the singular for 'aliens' has five letters... hmmm...)
Now think... Where do fake aliens come from...?Only a guess, but
"The government" has been saying there is no reliable evidence that space aliens exist. Is that the hoax?
The government also invented space and lie to us about it daily... You dont see the connection between fake space and fake aliens?
Tycho accepted an offer from the King Frederick II to fund an observatory. He was given the little island of Hven in the Sont near Copenhagen, and there he built his observatory, Uraniburg, which became the finest observatory in Europe.Would you build any observatory with a huge sextant like this just to look at "little lights" on a dome above your head?
Now think... Where do fake aliens come from...?
you shillsYou are posting untruths Mr Arealhumanbeing! Yet you are that one claiming that so many others are liars.
Now think... Where do fake aliens come from...?
Oh so you shills will so strongly believe in aliens even though the official government stance is there is not enough evidence to support the idea...As far as I can see there is no evidence that any Globe supporters are paid to post here, I certainly have received nothing.
But then you call flat Earthers insane nutters because theres not enough evidence for a flat Earth?I don't know who called "flat Earthers insane nutters", though many have claimed that they are wrong.
Ok, prove it's not a globe. So far you have proved nothingProve its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.
You're the one with the revived theory that the earth is flat. It's up to you to prove that it is flat. Just like I have to prove that the earth is young because the majority of the population believes it is old.
No, like you said, I revived an old theory. Its not mine, its mankinds original outlook on the shape of Earth. I believe in it so strongly only in light of inconsistencies in the explanation of the current theory about the workings in our universe.
So, you may say I must prove that the Earth is flat, but when I can prove that it is not a globe, should we not look to previous explanations as to the nature and shape of our home?
In this day and age when there is so much death and destruction in the "global agenda", I do not see why purporters of a globe shaped Earth see fit to stall and delay with insistance that there is no proof of a flat Earth, when it exists.
Project Blue Beam is real, and if most of the worlds population can be fooled into thinking their home is shaped differently than it really is, than it should be fairly easy to make the same population think that fake aliens are attacking them, and that they must submit all their freedoms for the sake of survival.
Earth is flat.
God is real.
Aliens are fake.
Wake up and smell the government hoax.
Oh so you shills will so strongly believe in aliens even though the official government stance is there is not enough evidence to support the idea...As far as I can see there is no evidence that any Globe supporters are paid to post here, I certainly have received nothing.
Why would anyone pay for posts on a little forum like this to promote facts that people have known for many centuries, don't be daft!
But you, Mr Arealhumanbeing seem the most like to be the "shill" atound here. Quite possibly financed by either or both of the
"Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat" or from the
copious finances of "The Second American Revolution".Quote from: ArealhumanbeingBut then you call flat Earthers insane nutters because theres not enough evidence for a flat Earth?I don't know who called "flat Earthers insane nutters", though many have claimed that they are wrong.
Though it is refreshing to see that you at long last admit that "there's not enough evidence for a flat Earth".
Maybe that is why you do not post evidence for a flat earth.
This is exactly what a shill would say.you shillsYou are posting untruths Mr Arealhumanbeing! Yet you are that one claiming that so many others are liars.
Look up what a shill is! And even you might realise who is being deceptive.
I, for one, present what I personally believe, so I am quite genuine and certainly not a "shill".
So, Mr Arealhumanbeing, please refrain from lxxxx!
This is exactly what a shill would say.you shillsYou are posting untruths Mr Arealhumanbeing! Yet you are that one claiming that so many others are liars.
Look up what a shill is! And even you might realise who is being deceptive.
I, for one, present what I personally believe, so I am quite genuine and certainly not a "shill".
So, Mr Arealhumanbeing, please refrain from lxxxx!
You have an open forum here. Present your evidence instead of whining when others present theirs.Oh so you shills will so strongly believe in aliens even though the official government stance is there is not enough evidence to support the idea...As far as I can see there is no evidence that any Globe supporters are paid to post here, I certainly have received nothing.
Why would anyone pay for posts on a little forum like this to promote facts that people have known for many centuries, don't be daft!
But you, Mr Arealhumanbeing seem the most like to be the "shill" atound here. Quite possibly financed by either or both of the
"Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat" or from the
copious finances of "The Second American Revolution".Quote from: ArealhumanbeingBut then you call flat Earthers insane nutters because theres not enough evidence for a flat Earth?I don't know who called "flat Earthers insane nutters", though many have claimed that they are wrong.
Though it is refreshing to see that you at long last admit that "there's not enough evidence for a flat Earth".
Maybe that is why you do not post evidence for a flat earth.
If you have to sink so low as to nitpick quotes out of context and twist them to your advantage, then I know I am getting to you, shill.
Why would someone pay to shill the globe earth theory here?
Well, this site would sway alot more people to the truth if there werent lying deceiving shills like rabinoz.
Careful, rab gets very defensive when people call him a shill. Sounds awfully suspicious to me.And you seem to get uptight when people call you Jroa, sounds suspicious to me.
I for one eagerly await the arrival of this project. I'm getting soooo sick of what appears to be the Kardashians as who we should be worshipping and devoting our attention to. Lets get a real badass! I reckon a 2nd coming of Jesus would be pretty damn cool. arealhumanbeings just a scared pussy because Jesus knows he's Satans littlebitchshill
Yeah you're right, I've noticed that also.This is exactly what a shill would say.you shillsYou are posting untruths Mr Arealhumanbeing! Yet you are that one claiming that so many others are liars.
Look up what a shill is! And even you might realise who is being deceptive.
I, for one, present what I personally believe, so I am quite genuine and certainly not a "shill".
So, Mr Arealhumanbeing, please refrain from lxxxx!
Careful, rab gets very defensive when people call him a shill. Sounds awfully suspicious to me.
I for one eagerly await the arrival of this project. I'm getting soooo sick of what appears to be the Kardashians as who we should be worshipping and devoting our attention to. Lets get a real badass! I reckon a 2nd coming of Jesus would be pretty damn cool. arealhumanbeings just a scared pussy because Jesus knows he's Satans littlebitchshill
Wow what a sad attempt to deface my name.
You dont even know the premise of the topic.
Project Blue Beam is the FAKED coming of Jesus.
Of course shifter the shill would endorse a plan to enslave the majority of humanity.
We are currently worshipping the Kardashians. They are as fake as they come. What's so different about that?
One pretends they can design clothes and handbags. The other will pretend they are JESUS and hopefully have super cool powers to back it up.
I know where my vote will go :P
What in the world happened to my thread!?I'm offended, you left me out! So I :P improved :P your picture!
As I took my leave for a while, I was discussing the government being controlled by a satanic cult!
Keep on topic! We are in deathly peril.
Everyone has the question as to why the Freemason logo is on American money, but they have no real answer.
Unless the obvious answer is true... That the Freemasons control American politics and economics.
Project Blue Beam, in its essence, is the ultimate goal of this deception. Slavery of the masses.(https://www.dropbox.com/s/3oimjvxqs2d3bix/Off%20with%20their%20heads.jpeg?dl=1)
Off with their heads
I'm sorry, have you witnesses Earth's curvature with your own eyes?There is a lot more to it than curvature, but yes I have, :D here: :D
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/p4hnrb8hpctui84/Sharp%20Horizon%20from%20near%20Sea%20Level%20-%20at%20Shorncliffe.jpg?dl=1) Sharp Horizon from near Sea Level at Shorncliffe | (https://www.dropbox.com/s/kqpj9nk7v0nou0c/Scarborough%20Beacon%2050%20mm%20lens.jpg?dl=1) Sharp Horizon, Scarborough Beacon 50 mm lens |
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/abvtouhbm0c2pg4/Scarborough%20Beacon%20on%20Horizon%20-%20str.JPG?dl=1) Scarborough Beacon on Horizon from 50 cm above water | (https://www.dropbox.com/s/99tjm0rxoatcm2g/Scarborough%20Horizon%20past%20Beacon.jpg?dl=1) Scarborough Horizon past Beacon from 3 m above water |
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/7c33oqcoezqtsrj/Lake%20Pontchartrain%20Transmission%20Lines%20Nikon%20P900%20.jpg?dl=1) Lake Pontchartrain Transmission Lines Nikon P900 | (https://www.dropbox.com/s/fcckeitocn1cucr/Losing%20Your%20Ride%20at%20121%2C000%20Feet%20-%20A%20Preview%20Indiana%20Caver%20at%200.17%20secs.jpg?dl=1) Even some flat earthers do some good balloon flights and videos! Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview Indiana Caver at 0:17 secs |
“The fact is, we might not necessarily be alone,” Luis Elizondo says. “Now is the time to move forward and try to answer some of life’s deepest mysteries.” This is not going to happen if we stick with the status quo.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/inside-knowledge-about-unidentified-aerial-phenomena_us_59dc1230e4b0b48cd8e0a5c7
Good. I think Humanity could do with some interstellar alien invasion.
You're a slow thinker. I wrote through nearly 4 months ago.Well given the fact that he thinks hoping for an alien invasion is a federal offense I think being a slow thinker is the least of his problems.
No, I just have better things to do than argue online 24/7 like I am getting paid to do it or something...
No, I like bumping old threads that prove there are people manipulating and lying about obvious facts.
No, I like bumping old threads that prove there are people manipulating and lying about obvious facts.No, Mr N30, you are the one proven to be lying.
It makes it easier for people to realize the truth., which I tell, and you dont.I never knew you had a sense-of-humour,
It makes it easier for people to realize the truth., which I tell, and you dont.I never knew you had a sense-of-humour, but your claiming that you tell the truth is the biggest joke
| A NASA camera aboard the Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) satellite captured a unique view of the moon as it moved in front of the sunlit side of Earth last month. The series of test images shows the fully illuminated “dark side” of the moon that is never visible from Earth. The images were captured by NASA’s Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera (EPIC), a four megapixel CCD camera and telescope on the DSCOVR satellite orbiting 1 million miles from Earth. From its position between the sun and Earth, DSCOVR conducts its primary mission of real-time solar wind monitoring for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). (https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/dscovrepicmoontransitfull.gif?itok=m-pCEXqi) This animation features actual satellite images of the far side of the moon, illuminated by the sun, as it crosses between the DSCOVR spacecraft's Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera (EPIC) and telescope, and the Earth - one million miles away. Credits: NASA/NOAA |
No, I like bumping old threads that prove there are people manipulating and lying about obvious facts.Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim that it is a person.
I know you will never agree with me, because you, NAZA, are one of those people.
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim that it is a person.Do you have any evidence to support the outlandish claim that you are a person? See a bot could easily have written that!
This is exactly what a bot would say💻Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim that it is a person.Do you have any evidence to support the outlandish claim that you are a person? See a bot could easily have written that!
Investigation is on-going.It's probably a safe bet. The world's a big place.
Since "This is exactly what a bot would say" and you seem to say it every time, I guess that proves that you must be a robotic-sheep-in-boots.This is exactly what a bot would say💻Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim that it is a person.Do you have any evidence to support the outlandish claim that you are a person? See a bot could easily have written that!