It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship

I would be a hypocrite if I did that.

So, in other words, it is de facto law, like murder and arson?  If you see someone burning down a house, you do not need to look up the specific law to know that something bad is happening, amiright?

LOL!!!

What a bunch of lunatics...

Thanks for trying, jroa, but they're clearly beyond help.

Anyhow, I'm off to work now; think I'll just remove all the safety-barriers, warning signs & screening round the Welding Area, as I now know they're completely unnecessary,,,

No need to sign all those Hot Work Permits either; after all, nothing bad can happen whilst working with extreme temperatures can it?

So no need at all for Legal cover...

Thanks, crim-bot shills - you've made my day a lot easier; you're okay!

Toodle-pip, d**kheads.

LMFAO!!!

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 23, 2015, 12:14:17 PM

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 23, 2015, 12:38:35 AM

Papa legba, where are the tourists holding the cube in the video? In the center, on the surfaces or on the corners?

Good for you!

But it doesn't matter WHERE you hold the cubes; the point is that they are still 2200C in the middle, easily crushable by hand & thus HAZARDOUS MATERIALS to HANDLE.

I've told you this already; ergo your question HAS been answered.

& if the answer I gave did not fit your dishonest agenda, it does not mean you are entitled to a different answer.

Now, please answer my own question, which is this: Did the tourists in the video have to sign waivers indemnifying NASA from culpability in the event of personal injury?

Of course, you will not answer; none of you have yet...

Which says all I need to know about you & your motivations here.

But keep up your  lying, denying, diverting & derailing...

Cos it is LOL!!!

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 23, 2015, 10:08:50 PM

LOL!!!

What a bunch of lunatics...

Thanks for trying, jroa, but they're clearly beyond help.

Anyhow, I'm off to work now; think I'll just remove all the safety-barriers, warning signs & screening round the Welding Area, as I now know they're completely unnecessary,,,

No need to sign all those Hot Work Permits either; after all, nothing bad can happen whilst working with extreme temperatures can it?

So no need at all for Legal cover...

Thanks, crim-bot shills - you've made my day a lot easier; you're okay!

Toodle-pip, d**kheads.

LMFAO!!!

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 23, 2015, 02:06:35 PM

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 23, 2015, 12:14:17 PM

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 23, 2015, 12:38:35 AM

Papa legba, where are the tourists holding the cube in the video? In the center, on the surfaces or on the corners?

I'll keep asking the same question until you answer it. Theres a difference between holding the handle or the blade of a knife, and there is a difference between holding in the middle, on the surfaces or on the corners on that cube.

The fact is that NASA has a Duty Of Care towards members of the public who PAY for its tours.

This is not optional; it is a Legal Obligation.

& by allowing those members of the public to handle hazardous materials such as the white-hot, easily-crushable cubes without correct p.p.e, training, or any other safety measures whatsoever, that Duty Of Care, plus Health & Safety legislation, is being grossly violated in this video.

Which constitutes Criminal Negligence, if not Reckless Endangerment; FACT.

Unless the tourists in the video signed waivers indemnifying NASA in the case of personal injury, this video can be nothing other than FAKE.

So; DID the tourists sign waivers?

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Already told you, shill; what's more YOU ALL AGREED WITH ME; the cubes are still 2200C in the middle when handled by the tourists.

The fact is that NASA has a Duty Of Care towards members of the public who PAY for its tours.

This is not optional; it is a Legal Obligation.

& by allowing those members of the public to handle hazardous materials such as the white-hot, easily-crushable cubes without correct p.p.e, training, or any other safety measures whatsoever, that Duty Of Care, plus Health & Safety legislation, is being grossly violated in this video.

Which constitutes Criminal Negligence, if not Reckless Endangerment; FACT.

Unless the tourists in the video signed waivers indemnifying NASA in the case of personal injury, this video can be nothing other than FAKE.

So; DID the tourists sign waivers?

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Quote from: Papa Legba on August 24, 2015, 01:28:33 PM

Good for you!

But it doesn't matter WHERE you hold the cubes; the point is that they are still 2200C in the middle, easily crushable by hand & thus HAZARDOUS MATERIALS to HANDLE.

I've told you this already; ergo your question HAS been answered.

& if the answer I gave did not fit your dishonest agenda, it does not mean you are entitled to a different answer.

Now, please answer my own question, which is this: Did the tourists in the video have to sign waivers indemnifying NASA from culpability in the event of personal injury?

Of course, you will not answer; none of you have yet...

Which says all I need to know about you & your motivations here.

But keep up your  lying, denying, diverting & derailing...

Cos it is LOL!!!

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 23, 2015, 10:53:07 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 23, 2015, 10:08:50 PM

LOL!!!

What a bunch of lunatics...

Thanks for trying, jroa, but they're clearly beyond help.

Anyhow, I'm off to work now; think I'll just remove all the safety-barriers, warning signs & screening round the Welding Area, as I now know they're completely unnecessary,,,

No need to sign all those Hot Work Permits either; after all, nothing bad can happen whilst working with extreme temperatures can it?

So no need at all for Legal cover...

Thanks, crim-bot shills - you've made my day a lot easier; you're okay!

Toodle-pip, d**kheads.

LMFAO!!!

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 23, 2015, 02:06:35 PM

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 23, 2015, 12:14:17 PM

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 23, 2015, 12:38:35 AM

Papa legba, where are the tourists holding the cube in the video? In the center, on the surfaces or on the corners?

I'll keep asking the same question until you answer it. Theres a difference between holding the handle or the blade of a knife, and there is a difference between holding in the middle, on the surfaces or on the corners on that cube.

LOL!!!

The mighty conker weighs in now...

& strangely enough, he too knows absolutely nothing about H&S regs; what a surprise!

Plus, he also doesn't know if the tourists signed a waiver or not...

Thus, he added NOTHING to the debate except for his pseudo-authoritarian tone.

Ergo, he can f**k right off back where he came from until he DOES know something about these things.

Bye-bye, conker; don't bang your enormous head on the door on the way out!

"Of course I don't have any clue!"

Yeah; I noticed... 

"However, if I get it correct, you live in the USA."

Well, you don't. So f**k off.

Quote from: Conker on August 24, 2015, 04:12:26 PM

"Of course I don't have any clue!"

Yeah; I noticed... 

"However, if I get it correct, you live in the USA."

Well, you don't. So f**k off.

& by allowing those members of the public to handle hazardous materials such as the white-hot, easily-crushable cubes without correct p.p.e, training, or any other safety measures whatsoever, that Duty Of Care, plus Health & Safety legislation, is being grossly violated in this video.

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 24, 2015, 03:29:50 PM

& by allowing those members of the public to handle hazardous materials such as the white-hot, easily-crushable cubes without correct p.p.e, training, or any other safety measures whatsoever, that Duty Of Care, plus Health & Safety legislation, is being grossly violated in this video.

But they did receive training before handling the cubes. 

The tour guide said to pick the cube up only by the corners. 

If the tourists follow the training provided, then no PPE is required. 

Everyone in the video who handled the blocks did as they were trained and there were no injuries.

If no one that followed their training is harmed, then how do you prove negligence?

LOL!!!

You're not even allowed to pick up an empty box without a Manual Handling Certificate now, jackass.

I had to retake the stupid thing earlier this year & it took an entire afternoon.

So what the carny in the video told the tourists in no way constitutes 'adequate training'.

Did he warn them of the severity of the consequences if they gripped the cubes too hard & crushed them?

Did he have them practice on an unheated cube first?

No; he did not.

Very Naughty!

Quote from: markjo on August 24, 2015, 06:12:04 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 24, 2015, 03:29:50 PM

& by allowing those members of the public to handle hazardous materials such as the white-hot, easily-crushable cubes without correct p.p.e, training, or any other safety measures whatsoever, that Duty Of Care, plus Health & Safety legislation, is being grossly violated in this video.

But they did receive training before handling the cubes. 

The tour guide said to pick the cube up only by the corners. 

If the tourists follow the training provided, then no PPE is required. 

Everyone in the video who handled the blocks did as they were trained and there were no injuries.

If no one that followed their training is harmed, then how do you prove negligence?

Just to let you know, that does not constitute as training in an industrial setting.  Not in any one that I have ever been in, anyway.  lol

Quote from: jroa on August 24, 2015, 10:48:43 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 24, 2015, 06:12:04 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 24, 2015, 03:29:50 PM

& by allowing those members of the public to handle hazardous materials such as the white-hot, easily-crushable cubes without correct p.p.e, training, or any other safety measures whatsoever, that Duty Of Care, plus Health & Safety legislation, is being grossly violated in this video.

But they did receive training before handling the cubes. 

The tour guide said to pick the cube up only by the corners. 

If the tourists follow the training provided, then no PPE is required. 

Everyone in the video who handled the blocks did as they were trained and there were no injuries.

If no one that followed their training is harmed, then how do you prove negligence?

Just to let you know, that does not constitute as training in an industrial setting.  Not in any one that I have ever been in, anyway.  lol

Do you suppose that the tour guide was properly trained in handling the white hot cubes?  I'm guessing that he was and he got by just fine handling them before allowing the tourists to do so (by which time the corners of the cubes had cooled even more).

Quote from: markjo on August 25, 2015, 06:31:46 AM

Quote from: jroa on August 24, 2015, 10:48:43 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 24, 2015, 06:12:04 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 24, 2015, 03:29:50 PM

& by allowing those members of the public to handle hazardous materials such as the white-hot, easily-crushable cubes without correct p.p.e, training, or any other safety measures whatsoever, that Duty Of Care, plus Health & Safety legislation, is being grossly violated in this video.

But they did receive training before handling the cubes. 

The tour guide said to pick the cube up only by the corners. 

If the tourists follow the training provided, then no PPE is required. 

Everyone in the video who handled the blocks did as they were trained and there were no injuries.

If no one that followed their training is harmed, then how do you prove negligence?

Just to let you know, that does not constitute as training in an industrial setting.  Not in any one that I have ever been in, anyway.  lol

Do you suppose that the tour guide was properly trained in handling the white hot cubes?  I'm guessing that he was and he got by just fine handling them before allowing the tourists to do so (by which time the corners of the cubes had cooled even more).

Yeah, I am sure the minimum wage tour guide had thousands of hours worth of training, markjo.     I know you are attempting to distract, derail, and disturb this conversation, markjo, but your little strawman tactics have little effect on me, markjo.

Quote from: markjo on August 25, 2015, 06:31:46 AM

Quote from: jroa on August 24, 2015, 10:48:43 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 24, 2015, 06:12:04 PM

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 24, 2015, 03:29:50 PM

& by allowing those members of the public to handle hazardous materials such as the white-hot, easily-crushable cubes without correct p.p.e, training, or any other safety measures whatsoever, that Duty Of Care, plus Health & Safety legislation, is being grossly violated in this video.

But they did receive training before handling the cubes. 

The tour guide said to pick the cube up only by the corners. 

If the tourists follow the training provided, then no PPE is required. 

Everyone in the video who handled the blocks did as they were trained and there were no injuries.

If no one that followed their training is harmed, then how do you prove negligence?

Just to let you know, that does not constitute as training in an industrial setting.  Not in any one that I have ever been in, anyway.  lol

Do you suppose that the tour guide was properly trained in handling the white hot cubes?  I'm guessing that he was and he got by just fine handling them before allowing the tourists to do so (by which time the corners of the cubes had cooled even more).

Yeah, I am sure the minimum wage tour guide had thousands of hours worth of training, markjo.     

I know you are attempting to distract, derail, and disturb this conversation, markjo, but your little strawman tactics have little effect on me, markjo.

LOL!!!

Shills are so dumb...

I'm not writing for YOU; I KNOW you're pure disinfo & denial, so will NEVER allow yourselves to admit the Truth of what I say.

No; I'm writing for others reading this thread, many of whom will have personal experience of the strictness of H&S regs, & will be very perplexed both by what they see in the silly, fraudulent video & your bizarrely vehement denial of all the facts pertaining to it.

But keep up your Lies; cos the more you cling to them, the more they weaken your case...

Poor you!

Now; carry on Lying...