It's 2015 and you aren't even close to owning a Spaceship

Well done Papa for proving them to be liars. You backed them into a corner and their desperation to keep up the bullshit, crumbled.

I think those who are looking in should be fairly comfortable in seeing the blatant lies about this and the many other things about the so called space shuttle.

If you can see these lies, then it's now time to open your eyes and mind to see the blatant bull crap they've implanted into your heads from childhood.

Quote from: sceptimatic on August 15, 2015, 02:25:47 PM

Well done Papa for proving them to be liars. You backed them into a corner and their desperation to keep up the bullshit, crumbled.

I think those who are looking in should be fairly comfortable in seeing the blatant lies about this and the many other things about the so called space shuttle.

If you can see these lies, then it's now time to open your eyes and mind to see the blatant bull crap they've implanted into your heads from childhood.

I'm sorry I must have missed that part. All I've seen is Papa accusing people of being liars and criminals. Doing a lot of LOLs and LMAOs and generally talking out of his arse. He hasn't proved anything. Not one single thing.

Typical discussion beginnings here. 
conspiracy guy:  I don't believe X.

Reasonable person:  Well you can go see it/perform this experiment/etc.  to decide for yourself.

conspiracy guy:  I cannot do that because of A, B, or C.

Reasonable person:  Well this may help, try this, it doesn't require A, B, or C.

conspiracy guy:  No, I cannot do that because of A, B, or C.  You don't read very well.

Reasonable person:  No, I mean you can do it without A, B, or C.

conspiracy guy:  No, I cannot do that because of A, B, or C.  You are a moron.

Reasonable person:  Well it doesn't matter to me, I gave you a way to experience it.

conspiracy guy:  so now you don't know how to experience it, you are just another lying shill.

Reasonable person:  No I am not, if you do not plan on taking someone else's account, and refuse to try to experience it yourself then there is nothing I can say.

conspiracy guy:  Well X can't be because of Z, and you are stupid.

Reasonable person:  Z has nothing to do with X, and you are now misstating what Z is.

conspiracy guy:  See you are just trying to confuse us with complicated things.  Lying shill, go somewhere else.

Reasonable person:  Nothing is complicated, Z has nothing to do with X.

conspiracy guy:  Well I believe its %%^

Reasonable person:  Wait that doesn't make sense.  I thought you wanted to know about X.

conspiracy guy:  Stop derailing the thread.  You know its $%.

Reasonable person:  that's not even what you said before.  You said you thought it was %%^.

conspiracy guy:  So you admit it.

Reasonable person:  No, did you read what I said?  God your stupid.

conspiracy guy:  See you have to insult me to win.

conspiracy guys friend:  That %%^ thing is brilliant.

conspiracy guy:  See, another shill defeated.

Reasonable person:  so is it %%^ or $%.

conspiracy guy:  I never said it was $%.

ETC.

And yet you keep coming back for more, mikeman. The supposed intelligent 17/18 year old college kid that can  play the piano whilst memorising 250 packs of shuffled cards and never smiling when given a hug and a cup of warm milk.

The same kid that wants to study every known scientific lie as well as the real science, all before he's 20. 
The very same kid who can also play all kinds of games on the internet inbetween  helping conspiracy theorists see the light whilst also trying to intimidate and ridicule them, as and when required.

The very same kid that tells us he's a real nerd who likes to do this stuff, because....well....he's a nerd, he says.
You see: people like mikeman stand out like a blind cobblers thumb as not being who they say they are. It does give me a laugh though, because I sit back and think of all the work they have to put into keeping the multiple's going and the times they log in under the wrong name and type in the name of the other person they thought they logged in with. 

Carry on mikeman. Happy 18th. It's due soon, isn't it? 

Quote from: sceptimatic on August 15, 2015, 02:25:47 PM

Well done Papa for proving them to be liars. You backed them into a corner and their desperation to keep up the bullshit, crumbled.

I think those who are looking in should be fairly comfortable in seeing the blatant lies about this and the many other things about the so called space shuttle.

If you can see these lies, then it's now time to open your eyes and mind to see the blatant bull crap they've implanted into your heads from childhood.

I'm sorry I must have missed that part. All I've seen is Papa accusing people of being liars and criminals. Doing a lot of LOLs and LMAOs and generally talking out of his arse. He hasn't proved anything. Not one single thing.

papa legba, please link to where you got the idea that space shuttle tiles could be crushed by hand. I think whatever you were reading was talking about the material inside the tiles, but the outer shell of the tiles are quite strong.

I've just proved - absolutely & beyond doubt - that Rayzor is a LIAR.

Does this FACT not disturb you?

Just asking...

Those tiles are the most versatile (pardon the pun) tiles in the history of the world of fantasy.
They can be cut with a craft knife and shaped like styrofoam, yet can be placed into an oven at 2000 degrees F and heated for 2 hours until they glow, yet can be brought out and immediately cool in seconds to be picked up by hand, yet can also be crushed as easily as a styrofoam cup.
We get shown tests on this so called stuff with a blow torch which supposedly shows up the heat glow and dissipation and yet it appears to be a different block. Almost as if it's like asbestos.

Anyway, regardless of that, we will get back to the blow torch. Is there any testing of this tile apart from the pretend shuttle launches?
What I mean is, are there any 2/3/4/5/.....etc.etc mph winds hitting this brittle tile in wind tunnels or whatever to show how strong its resistance is to surviving a cold launch and then surviving a hot re-entry at super speeds, regardless of just a simple oven heating or a mild plumbers blow torch heating?

If I was testing this shuttle tile, I would be doing this a different way so people could see the reality.

You see, those tiles are coated in a black substance (anyone know what that is?) that is obviously super heat resistant to the point of magical.
So anyway, let's move on.

If they coat a full tile and place it in a real oven for hours. An oven that we can actually see working by placing a real fire brick inside as well as the black (fully) coated shuttle bric....erm tile and see what happens when  that tile is brought out and sliced in half.

What's the chances ?

Why can't anything NASA do, be done so we can see it first hand and in such a way that we have no chance to argue the point?

When these tiles were first built for the shuttle, they were super expensive. It seems that now, anyone can buy one for a small price.
Anyone that does buy one, I suggest you take it to a blacksmith's (if you know of one) and have that tile dropped into the heat for a while and let's see what state it's in when it's taken out.

The tile might be ok for a plumbers blow torch for a while but I'd be interested to see what effects would be on it in a blast furnace or something similar.

Quote from: sceptimatic on August 16, 2015, 02:52:26 AM

Those tiles are the most versatile (pardon the pun) tiles in the history of the world of fantasy.
They can be cut with a craft knife and shaped like styrofoam, yet can be placed into an oven at 2000 degrees F and heated for 2 hours until they glow, yet can be brought out and immediately cool in seconds to be picked up by hand, yet can also be crushed as easily as a styrofoam cup.
We get shown tests on this so called stuff with a blow torch which supposedly shows up the heat glow and dissipation and yet it appears to be a different block. Almost as if it's like asbestos.

Anyway, regardless of that, we will get back to the blow torch. Is there any testing of this tile apart from the pretend shuttle launches?
What I mean is, are there any 2/3/4/5/.....etc.etc mph winds hitting this brittle tile in wind tunnels or whatever to show how strong its resistance is to surviving a cold launch and then surviving a hot re-entry at super speeds, regardless of just a simple oven heating or a mild plumbers blow torch heating?

If I was testing this shuttle tile, I would be doing this a different way so people could see the reality.

You see, those tiles are coated in a black substance (anyone know what that is?) that is obviously super heat resistant to the point of magical.
So anyway, let's move on.

If they coat a full tile and place it in a real oven for hours. An oven that we can actually see working by placing a real fire brick inside as well as the black (fully) coated shuttle bric....erm tile and see what happens when  that tile is brought out and sliced in half.

What's the chances ?

Why can't anything NASA do, be done so we can see it first hand and in such a way that we have no chance to argue the point?

When these tiles were first built for the shuttle, they were super expensive. It seems that now, anyone can buy one for a small price.
Anyone that does buy one, I suggest you take it to a blacksmith's (if you know of one) and have that tile dropped into the heat for a while and let's see what state it's in when it's taken out.

The tile might be ok for a plumbers blow torch for a while but I'd be interested to see what effects would be on it in a blast furnace or something similar.

Buy a tile and prove your point. How hard is it?

My next point is unconnected to any of your above points; all that is needed are for the following 2 statements to be acknowledged as FACT:
1) The cubes in the video are easily crushable by hand.

2) The cubes in the video are still white-hot in the centre.

Once you acknowledge these FACTS, we will move on.

Until then, toodle-pip, criminals!

Any idea where I can buy one?

Please confirm the following statements as being FACTS:

1) The cubes in the video are easily crushable by hand.

2) The cubes in the video are still white-hot in the centre.

Answer, please, idiots who cannot tell the difference between emitted & reflected light...

& psyopticon/rayzor; wtf is WRONG with you?

Either YOU are lying or wikipedia, mainframes & mikeman are lying; why do you ask for video evidence, LIAR?

No wonder nobody likes you!

Quote from: Master_Evar on August 16, 2015, 03:03:59 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on August 16, 2015, 02:52:26 AM

Those tiles are the most versatile (pardon the pun) tiles in the history of the world of fantasy.
They can be cut with a craft knife and shaped like styrofoam, yet can be placed into an oven at 2000 degrees F and heated for 2 hours until they glow, yet can be brought out and immediately cool in seconds to be picked up by hand, yet can also be crushed as easily as a styrofoam cup.
We get shown tests on this so called stuff with a blow torch which supposedly shows up the heat glow and dissipation and yet it appears to be a different block. Almost as if it's like asbestos.

Anyway, regardless of that, we will get back to the blow torch. Is there any testing of this tile apart from the pretend shuttle launches?
What I mean is, are there any 2/3/4/5/.....etc.etc mph winds hitting this brittle tile in wind tunnels or whatever to show how strong its resistance is to surviving a cold launch and then surviving a hot re-entry at super speeds, regardless of just a simple oven heating or a mild plumbers blow torch heating?

If I was testing this shuttle tile, I would be doing this a different way so people could see the reality.

You see, those tiles are coated in a black substance (anyone know what that is?) that is obviously super heat resistant to the point of magical.
So anyway, let's move on.

If they coat a full tile and place it in a real oven for hours. An oven that we can actually see working by placing a real fire brick inside as well as the black (fully) coated shuttle bric....erm tile and see what happens when  that tile is brought out and sliced in half.

What's the chances ?

Why can't anything NASA do, be done so we can see it first hand and in such a way that we have no chance to argue the point?

When these tiles were first built for the shuttle, they were super expensive. It seems that now, anyone can buy one for a small price.
Anyone that does buy one, I suggest you take it to a blacksmith's (if you know of one) and have that tile dropped into the heat for a while and let's see what state it's in when it's taken out.

The tile might be ok for a plumbers blow torch for a while but I'd be interested to see what effects would be on it in a blast furnace or something similar.

Buy a tile and prove your point. How hard is it?

Any idea where I can buy one?

Quote from: Papa Legba on August 15, 2015, 11:38:56 AM

I've just proved - absolutely & beyond doubt - that Rayzor is a LIAR.

Does this FACT not disturb you?

Just asking...

Nope,  you are the one being misled.  The tiles I have can't be crushed easily by hand.   Whoever is telling you that is misleading you,   there are different tile types,  so perhaps there are some others are in fact easily crushable?   

Here is a russian one currently for sale  on ebay,   So, Papa Legover,   why don't YOU buy it and find out for yourself. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPACE-SHUTTLE-BURAN-HEAT-SHIELD-THERMAL-BLACK-TILE-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-/191660154039?hash=item2c9fd5dcb7

Here's a woman crushing a shuttle tile with her bare hands..  Doesn't seem to be crushing very much does it?



After a bit more research,  I discovered that you can get tiles for free direct from NASA  you can go to your local school and ask them to make the request, then you are only liable for postage and handling,   After you do your testing you can pass it on to the school science department.    (provided it's not too badly crushed!!!)  Idiot!

http://gsaxcess.gov/NASAWel.htm


Here's another video.   Skip to  2:45  for the heat transfer demo.    At about 7:00 he demonstrates the waterproofing and cuts a block with an exacto knife, which gives some idea of the mechanical properties.

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And another,   this looks a bit like my piece, but a little bigger.

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I like feeding trolls,  sooner or later they choke on the truth.

No Rayzer is not implying I am lying at all.

OH YES HE IS!

It may be the tiles produced currently are slightly more robust.

THE TILES PRODUCED CURRENTLY FOR THE SHUTTLE THAT HAS BEEN RETIRED?

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! STOP POSTING WHEN YOU'RE DRUNK, NUT-JOB!

Quote from: Mainframes on August 16, 2015, 08:28:28 AM

No Rayzer is not implying I am lying at all.

OH YES HE IS!

It may be the tiles produced currently are slightly more robust.

THE TILES PRODUCED CURRENTLY FOR THE SHUTTLE THAT HAS BEEN RETIRED?

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! STOP POSTING WHEN YOU'RE DRUNK, NUT-JOB!

To sum up: massive LOL & FAIL!!!