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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Impossible Moon Positions
« on: March 17, 2016, 05:33:26 AM »
Lets get out of here. 270 degrees turning lady. ohahaha :D

Look tha camere when it is turning, is it like 270 degrees or close like 30-45-or 60 degrees?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Impossible Moon Positions
« on: March 17, 2016, 05:28:57 AM »
Don't come to me with childish appeal. Your appeals seems are trolling .

I do not force anyone to believe it. Close your eyes, or don't comment to my subjects .

I do not want to deal with trolls... Just i want to deal people who has brain.

I'm not a troll. I'm a person who understands extremely simple concepts trying to explain them to you.

Here's a diagram seeing as you love them so much. It took me about 30 seconds to draw...



The idiot with the camera turns 90 degrees from facing the sun and sees a moon half lit by the sun. What's so spectacular about this? *bangs head against wall*

These brainless drawn don't show the position which shown on the video.

Where is the moon looking the side on your drawn? To the sun. Where is the moon is looking the side on the second video? The opposite side of the sun.

Nevermind. Look that.

Defences forces are going to goal with counterattack !!  ;D



Impossible my baby impossible. ;)

The person in the second video merely turned right round about 270 degrees from the sun to show the moon trying to show it as facing the wrong way! Use your mind and some logic. You're really desperately trying to find errors where there are none. Don't get so upset when someone challenges your errors. It's ok to be wrong sometimes! :)

Why is she turning around 270 degrees instead of 90 degrees. Is she an idiot? Don't make me laugh. I fell off the chair when i am laughing . 270 degrees ha. hohahaha :D

For those who do not follow the subject . related video : " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Impossible Moon Positions
« on: March 17, 2016, 05:16:05 AM »
Don't come to me with childish appeal. Your appeals seems are trolling .

I do not force anyone to believe it. Close your eyes, or don't comment to my subjects .

I do not want to deal with trolls... Just i want to deal people who has brain.

I'm not a troll. I'm a person who understands extremely simple concepts trying to explain them to you.

Here's a diagram seeing as you love them so much. It took me about 30 seconds to draw...



The idiot with the camera turns 90 degrees from facing the sun and sees a moon half lit by the sun. What's so spectacular about this? *bangs head against wall*

This brainless drawn don't show the position which shown on the video.

Where is the moon looking the side on your drawn? To the sun. Where is the moon is looking the side on the second video? The opposite side of the sun.

Nevermind. Look that.

Defences forces are going to goal with counterattack !!  ;D



Impossible my baby impossible. ;)

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Impossible Moon Positions
« on: March 17, 2016, 04:34:29 AM »
Don't come to me with childish appeal. Your appeals seems are trolling .

I do not force anyone to believe it. Close your eyes, or don't comment to my subjects .

I do not want to deal with trolls... Just i want to deal people who has brain.

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Flat Earth Debate / Impossible Moon Positions
« on: March 17, 2016, 02:48:59 AM »
Referance:



Impossible 1:

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The sun is close to moon.

Impossible 2:

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The moon light is looking to the opposite side of the sun!

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Current videos are added .  others will be added later .

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 17, 2016, 01:34:22 AM »
There is another one.

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Moon Light ont the opposite side to sun. How is it possible? It is imposible! The light on the moon isn't the light of the sun! Watch carefully.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 17, 2016, 12:23:49 AM »
The moon isn't on the near side.


I watched it again and again. If you look to 18.th to 23.th second of the video, it appears to be on the same side of the sun and the moon . They are not so far themselves. It seems so close.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 16, 2016, 07:31:15 AM »
I think it is. But i'm not sure now.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 16, 2016, 05:22:46 AM »
After these working, i'll not reply you again @rabinoz;

I aswered you. Accept or not! I Don't care about your childish objections!

Look this picture:



Watch this video!

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Because you are refusing basic geometry and acting like a troll. I'm sorry.

This is %100 proof. If you can't accept this, you are not thinking with science, you are a sci-believer! I hate bigot people like you.

Do not reply or tell me something. I dont care about your childish objections.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 16, 2016, 03:58:13 AM »
Watch the video:

Watch the defences are destroying the devil.  ;D

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Nobody can explain how a half moon created on a sun light.

It is clearly, %100 impossible!

Thank you Frederick  :D I think it was a "Godly gift" or something other. Can you see the winner?. :D

Frederic done the score 6 points. :D
Why ever does it have anything to do with NASA? The phases of the moon were well understood millennia before NASA or space flight was dreamt of! You have a pure and simple NASA phobia!

The Globe earth has nothing to do with NASA! Just understand that simple fact for a start. Back over 2,000 years ago lunar phases and eclipses were well understood. A part the evidence for the Globe in the earliest times was that the part shadow cast on the moon by the earth was part of a circle!

The video is so jumpy and poor quality that it is hard to judge it properly, but there is no problem at all having the sun and part moon in the sky together.

At the time of a new moon everyone knows that the moon appears close to the sun!

Where is this great revelation?
It is exactly what we expect.

Now, you are never going to sort out your full moon problem until you realise that the sun, earth and moon are almost in the same plane.





Impossible. Show how is possible?

16752
Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 16, 2016, 02:19:55 AM »
Watch the video:

Watch the defences are destroying the devil.  ;D

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Nobody can explain how a half moon created on a sun light.

It is clearly, %100 impossible!

Thank you Frederick  :D I think it was a "Godly gift" or something other. Can you see the winner?. :D

Frederic done the score 6 points. :D


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 15, 2016, 11:49:50 PM »

I do not want to see around of me the trolls and  clones , please.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 14, 2016, 11:58:16 PM »
Nobody can explain how a moon seem full moon at all of the night. It is impossible to say after see these pictures. None of your explanation is not convincing.






Do not tell me a story . I am only interested in the truth.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 14, 2016, 06:30:37 AM »
As i see that, NASA trolls have raid and got here. Clearly this is a frustrating situation. I proposal to admin for this city that change the name to "anti the flatearth society .org".
Why do you spend so much efforts for something you reject? Then how are you talking about the science? You receive money to do that or you are believers a religion assertives the globe.

This is my last writing and last warning about these trolls. Please read with want to understand:

I'm not a writer for change up their idea those who don't thinking like me.
I am writing for i want to  they are not alone who thinking like me..


Is it clearly?
Before you run off in a huff, let's get a few things straight!
  • I am certainly not a "NASA troll" and I am certain no-one posting on this sight is! I have not changed my view of the shape of the earth or the nature of the universe since NASA came into being.
  • No,we certainly do not "receive money to do that"! (Do YOU!). No, we do it to stop as many young people as possible from falling into this trap that could block their lives in so many areas!
  • The Heliocentric Globe Earth was accepted centuries before NASA or space travel was thought of.
  • Not everyone in the Islamic world accepts that the earth is flat!
    There were studies being carried around the end of the first millenium (when the "west" was in the "Dark Ages") Abu Rayhan al-Biruni clearly accepted that earth was a sphere and was "measuring" the earth's size.
    Quote from: Syed Aslam THE MUSLIM OBSERVER, Thursday, May 15, 2008
    Muslim Scientists and Thinkers
    From:http://muslimobserver.com/abu-rayhan-ibn-al-biruni/

    Abu Rayhan al-Biruni was born in Kath, Uzbekistan in 973 CE a region adjoining the Aral Sea. He began his studies at a very young age under the famous mathematician Abu Nasr Mansur. In 1017 Sultan Mahmud Ghazni extended his kingdom to Kath area and he took al Biruni with him to his capital.
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    Al-Biruni is regarded as the father of geodesy and made numerous contribution to earth science, cartography, geography and geology. He introduced techniques to measure the distances on earth using triangulation. He solved complex geodesic equation and accurately calculated the circumference of the earth which is very close to the present value. His calculated value of earth's radius is 6339 km, which differs from the modern value by 16 km. This value was not obtained by the Europeans until the middle of 16th century. While he was very young he accurately calculated the latitude of various places.
    Note that this quotation is not from any western publication, but from THE MUSLIM OBSERVER. Clearly around the year 1,000 AD many at least in the Islamic community believed the earth is a globe.
Now, in you first post you claimed that the full moon was impossible on the globe. I countered this by claiming that your diagrams were grossly misleading!
Well here is the Earth and Moon drawn to scale. I hope your can see the massive difference it makes to your argument!
The moon is so much further away from the earth that it makes you graphics look ridiculous - relative scale matters here!

These draws drawn by autocad. Look it.

Imposible to see the full moon. Just a few minutes.





Your false is you are thinking just shapes, distance and light. You are forgetting your point of view.

Moon does not stop at the same place . It is shifting , but still can not continue to be a full moon .





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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 09, 2016, 06:06:32 AM »

I should point out that the bottom of the note : I was not concerned with the fact that the world is flat or turning or rotation . but united states might be closer than it has been so interested in the Middle East based on a map , I thought. It makes me take near to flat earth theory.  I'm not a winner , but also not easily defeated. We know all of the American games on our countries. yes it seems that America is closer to us in the map. :-X

Don't see or talk about it.

16757
Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 09, 2016, 05:57:08 AM »
@rabinoz;

I found an A330 plane again.

Speed: 568 kts Planed : 400 (!!)

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR210

Now we look to wiki. what is the maximum speed of the airbus A 330

Cruise speed   Mach 0.82 (871 km/h or 470 kn or 541 mph at 11,000 m or 36,100 ft cruise altitude)
Maximum cruise speed   Mach 0.86 913 km/h or 493 kn or 567 mph at 11,000 m or 36,100 ft cruise altitude)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A330

Vovovovovvv bingoo !

We found an average speed 568 kts. but it should be maximum 493.  ;)

568 / 493 = 1,15

We have exceeded  the highest speed 15 % with our average speed :D  ;D  8)

16758
Flat Earth Debate / Re: About flat earth
« on: March 09, 2016, 05:43:24 AM »
Well few days ago my geology class teacher was asking us a few questions, and i stated that earth is flat and fiercely defended that theory which resulted in me getting an F. So she asked me to give her some proof earth is flat and she will erase the F what should i show her?

You should not  such things to teachers. Too late for that now . So remember that flat earth just a theory but not proven %100. geology and physic teachers hate this theory. so never do that again.

Now. Show her this prove about the curvature:

This is a curveture test:

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Show her what is the curvature for this distance from that site:

https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/

And say that it is imposible to see these things.

Say her that "yes i accept the earth is curve by theorical but it has no practical response".

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 09, 2016, 05:10:44 AM »
I told you earlier that most of the NASA trolls here in. therefore I will not feed the trolls .

So a question: What is the top speed of overall airbus?
Well, I am certainly not a NASA troll. I have no connection with it and I have not change my beliefs on the shape of the earth since NASA came along.

Then just what Airbus do you mean? There are a lot.
A320 Family. A318 A319 A320 A321.
A330 Family. A330-200 A330-300.
A340 Family. A340-200 A340-300 A340-500 A340-600.
A350 XWB. A350-800 A350-900 A350-1000.
A380
Take some common ones:
A320 Cruise speed: 828 km/h Top speed: 871 km/h
A340 Cruise speed: 890 km/h Top speed: 913 km/h
A380 Cruise speed: 945 km/h Top speed: 1,020 km/h

The routes that are more of a challenge are Sydney to/from Santiago, Sydney to/from Johannesburg and Aukland to/from Buenos Aires.

I'm searching a route by Airbus family. But first i found a route when i searh it, a boeing 787.

Look to wiki:

Cruising speed   Mach 0.85, 487 knots (902 km/h) at cruising altitude
Maximum speed   Mach 0.90, 516 knots (956 km/h) at cruising altitude

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787

Now look to a route:

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR94

speed: 544 kts. (average speed)

kts to km: 544 kts = 1007.488 km >>

1007.488 >> 956 km.

And 1007 km/h is just an average speed of this plane. it's maximum speed is much more higher then 1007 km/h.

Now i found a A332.

Which speed you said the maximum about it?

https://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR210

Plane: A332

Average Speed:   577 kts  = 1.068 km/h

What did you say about it? 828-890 km/h (maximum)

What did you said (again) A320-340 family goes 828-890 km "MAXIMUM"

What i found? A basic plane going with 1.068 km/hm "AVERAGE SPEED" :D

1068 / 890 = %20 over speed from the maximum speed of the plane. :D :D :D

is average speed must higher then maximum speed or opposite? is'nt there a problem on the maximum of the speeds?


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 09, 2016, 04:59:12 AM »
I told you earlier that most of the NASA trolls here in. therefore I will not feed the trolls .

So a question: What is the top speed of overall airbus?
Well, I am certainly not a NASA troll. I have no connection with it and I have not change my beliefs on the shape of the earth since NASA came along.

Then just what Airbus do you mean? There are a lot.
A320 Family. A318 A319 A320 A321.
A330 Family. A330-200 A330-300.
A340 Family. A340-200 A340-300 A340-500 A340-600.
A350 XWB. A350-800 A350-900 A350-1000.
A380
Take some common ones:
A320 Cruise speed: 828 km/h Top speed: 871 km/h
A340 Cruise speed: 890 km/h Top speed: 913 km/h
A380 Cruise speed: 945 km/h Top speed: 1,020 km/h

The routes that are more of a challenge are Sydney to/from Santiago, Sydney to/from Johannesburg and Aukland to/from Buenos Aires.

I understand you are not a troll. I will return you about the matter of the moon.

These speed values are not true. I saw some speeds like 1200 km/h, 1150 km/h. I'm searching them on the routes. if i find, i'll answer you by the images show the speed higher than 1.020 km/h for A380 and higher than 913 km/h for A340.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 09, 2016, 01:02:39 AM »
most of sources shows the speed limit about 950-1250 km/h for most of airplanes. but another source saying different:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3115752/Is-speed-limit-planes-sky-happens-pilot-breaks-Plane-questions-answered-industry-experts.html

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Most commercial flights, however, fly at 38,000 feet above the Class B maximum height and there is not a specific speed limit imposed.
BA Captain Dave Thomas stated why they fly at this height: 'This sort of altitude is a good compromise between engine efficiency and aerodynamic efficiency for jet aircraft.
'Of course, the more efficiently we fly the more fuel we save, which is good for the environment and allows us to keep fares low for our customers.'
Although there is not a specific speed limit for commercial planes above 10,000 feet, pilots have to abide by the aircraft manufacturer's maximum safe speed for the aircraft to fly.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3115752/Is-speed-limit-planes-sky-happens-pilot-breaks-Plane-questions-answered-industry-experts.html

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The delta-wing Concorde reached speeds of mach 2.04, almost 1,553 mph - more than twice the speed of sound - whilst flying at an altitude of 60,000 feet.
If Concorde was still operating and flying from Melbourne and Sydney to London, the flight time would be under 12 hours, even allowing for two refuelling stops.

continue to explore ...  :)




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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 08, 2016, 09:48:17 PM »
I told you earlier that most of the NASA trolls here in. therefore I will not feed the trolls . import the excel spreadsheet values ​​in non radar speed on the route of the "top speed" by selecting. I will continue to calculate the actual distance . I'm working on it. trolls can not stop me.
This is a principal behavior you trolls cannot understand that. I know you trolls true by your looking, i know it. But it is not interest me. i'm sorry.

Calculate:

I'm driving my car on the radar way by the speed 90 km/h.
But when i drive it on the no radar area,  then i'm driving the car by the speed of 180 km/h.
Actually my car can go with the speed of 250 km/h. But it is not safe for driving. because the roads and traffics have some problems. most of drivers going with the speed calculating with this: "top speed - %10". So must drivers going on the no radar way with 220 km/h.-230 km/h.
The air usually clear for traffic. so airplanes go with top speed of it can, when they drive on the no radar area. It is not interest me why is there no radar?  ;D

So a question: What is the top speed of overall airbus?

Until this evening I'll show you the true distance between Sidney and Los angelos . and I will check it by different routes more then one.

science science science ... lalalalalaa :)

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 08, 2016, 05:49:21 AM »
I'm near to solve the Sydney USA problem.

This is the realist map of the world for first step.



I'm still working on it at my spare times.

It is contunie to controlling and correcting.

This is a airplane route bitween Sydney and Los Angelos.

Look at the number of speed.



There is no speed record for a long time. why? Because there is no radar. :D



I have a big question:

Are you drive  faster or drive slower on the "no radar area?"


Think about on this idea long long time.  ;D 8)  ???  :P  :-X  ;)  :D



There is a big "no radar area" between USA to Australia. So no one of the airpane route can show all of the route from USA to Australia.

Are they America and Australia too poor to buy a good radar ? Or are they want to hide something ?


result : lengths in the both of the "curve and flat earth maps" can not be verified between sydney to Los angelos !


...
to be continued...


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 04, 2016, 12:17:48 PM »
As i see that, NASA trolls have raid and got here. Clearly this is a frustrating situation. I proposal to admin for this city that change the name to "anti the flatearth society .org".
Why do you spend so much efforts for something you reject? Then how are you talking about the science? You receive money to do that or you are believers a religion assertives the globe.

This is my last writing and last warning about these trolls. Please read with want to understand:

I'm not a writer for change up their idea those who don't thinking like me.
I am writing for i want to  they are not alone who thinking like me..


Is it clearly?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 04, 2016, 05:45:53 AM »
A Turkish preverb says that: "Do not make a discussion with the stupids, because the others dont understand the difference of you and the other".

Another word is said by a philosopher "Gazali" said that: "Do not make a discussion with the stupids, because i never won". :)

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It's really funny. Is the water on IFS dangereous or not? Decide it please. :)

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Did the earth's rotation was investigating the impact on ocean waters ? or a simple drop of water ? water on a smooth surface , how are unaffected return , not thrown , or does not cause movement ? Who was solved this hydraulic problem ? What was the populer science doing at this time ?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 04, 2016, 04:43:36 AM »

Don't blame me for that! That is what the Flat Earth Society says.
Day and night are supposedly produced by the light of the sun directed only to the part of earth below it that is in daylight. I think this is rubbish, but it's not my theory!

You describe to me how the sun moves on the flat earth and how day and night and the seasons are produced.
Then how the phases of the moon are produced on the flat earth,  and we can talk again.
Your turn!

I don't blame you rabinoz,
Flat Earth willing would have  different ideas like this. you can prove something is wrong in many ways . Here it is the case.
I met or talked many of Flat Earthers , thew are usually thinking about the sun and the moon independently produce their own light. the sun  has hot light , the moon produces cold light. As one cold , the other hot cameras. I think so. What others think it is not my problem . I am responsible only to myself.


It is easy to prove that something is wrong . but above all, it is difficult to prove the truth of a thing exactly .

I'm trying to solve the world at the moment I'm working on maps and Sidney problems. I solved the problem of Tokyo looked very nice .

This is TUrkish but if you think about graphics, you can understand what i drew.













Look at the pictures.

First picture is the map created by me. If you pay attention that, i don't use the "flat earth map". Yes i believe it but i'm working on the map which i created. Because maybe somebody done false. I want to see everthing with my eyes. I know "trust no one".

The other photos are the route from tokyo to New York.

This is my flat earth map shows the way is "North-east", "east", "south-east". Second picture about a airplane route. And the other pictures shows the practical route is same as my "flat earth map" like "North-east", "east", "south-east".

I'm working on this issue right now. I hope one day I will also issue you mentioned .

I know it is not the matter you are interesting but be sure i have not more time to keep up with everything.

We should to talk about this:



I'm throwing out a theory . I prove it in a graph. you 're putting forward a theory but do not show the graphic .
Are you seriously trying to say that graphics are the only way to prove anything? Really?

Please go away and don't troll us. Thank you.

So, anyone questioning your ineffable wisdom is trolling! That might be your idea of debating, but it is certainly not ours!

He is just sloganning. he isn't putting out data.

(Edit: sydney >> New York)

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 04, 2016, 04:21:52 AM »
I'm throwing out a theory . I prove it in a graph. you 're putting forward a theory but do not show the graphic .
Are you seriously trying to say that graphics are the only way to prove anything? Really?

Please go away and don't troll us. Thank you.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Intikam is here now
« on: March 04, 2016, 12:42:15 AM »

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