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Obviously the earth isn't blocking out the rays of the sun. If the moon reflected the sun's light, it wouldn't be lit up it all during an eclipse. But the moon glows red.

Pseudo-science says the earth's atmosphere is lit up from the sun and makes the moon appear red. But how stupid is that? Why is the earth's atmosphere lit up only during an eclipse? Makes no sense.

The moon is its own light source.

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The country is only 46,000 square miles and they are bluffing with all these fake nukes. The country is obviously fake with fake buildings, and other nonsense. ICBMs and Nukes are a fraud, a hoax, and do not exist.

Missiles do not have the fuel capacity or capability to travel thousands of miles on target. It's a joke.

Then North Korea has a parade today flashing all their nukes while military ships are headed for the South China Sea.

The whole thing smells of a false flag event to kickstart WW3. Got to love all the coverage by the Main stream media too.

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Flat Earth General / Gravity is exactly what the word suggests
« on: April 13, 2017, 12:17:09 PM »
Gravity is NOT a force that pulls, but rather the "weight" of an object.

In lists and database management, you can assign a Gravity number to certain items and they will arrange themselves accordingly. (i.e. 1 will be higher in the list than 0 and -1 will be lower than 0. 2 gravity would be at the top, 3 above that, etc. You add a new item and can give it -100 to be below everything on that list so far.

You have more Gravity than Air so you fall down, you have less Gravity than water so you float on top. It is nothing to do with attraction between objects, but rather separation of objects due to their different "Gravities".

If Gravity were a force that attracted masses together, then the Earth and Moon would obviously get pulled into the Sun.

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"And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat."
Genesis 8:4

Well what do you know:







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What's also interesting, is Noah's Ark came to rest in the Mountains of Ararat in Turkey after the flood. All of the nations of the world descended from Turkey when the people followed Nimrod into the wilderness. They later built the Tower of Babel in the plain.

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It is NO JOKE!

You will find through your research that Israel is in fact near the center of the earth.

Also, it is known that north/east of China the land lay in darkness.

Here is a map with Israel at the center:

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Also the Bible says "The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment."
 Job 38:14



So you're on the right track!

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I like what you're doing keep it up!

Take a look at my attempt at a flat earth map, maybe it will help:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67364.0

Key things:
Israel is near the center of the earth near the Mediterranean (Middle of the Earth) Sea ;)
Originally when I made the map in photoshop, Australia WAS near North and South america, and I moved it.
India IS one of the 4 corners of the earth
East of China is the Garden of Eden and the land lay in Darkness, plus a Chasm prevents you from reaching it.

Good luck!

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 23, 2016, 09:25:55 AM »
And look, Ionospheric Propagation is proof there is a Crystal Firmament because they bounce radio waves off it.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 23, 2016, 09:24:52 AM »
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Oh Good grief.  Go to Bible college and learn how to properly interpret Scripture. You are making an utter fool of yourself.

Perhaps Job should have gone to Bible college too?

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Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?
Job 37:18

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 23, 2016, 09:18:19 AM »
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It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in
Isaiah 40:22

Yes the earth is shaped like a CIRCLE, not a SPHERE, and the Heavens are like a TENT. You read that right.



As you can see, when you add up all the scriptures, it is very obvious the Firmament is a Solid Dome and the Earth is flat.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 23, 2016, 09:01:53 AM »
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iWitness, was that before or after the talking snake?

Pathetic.... morons think it's impossible for a "Serpent" to talk, but think nothing about the talking birds and other animals.

10 animals who can actually talk:
http://www.oddee.com/item_98829.aspx

You people have no faith, which is why you are too stupid to see the Secrets of the Kingdom of Heaven.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 22, 2016, 10:01:30 AM »
Like I already said, it's obvious none of you have read or studied the Bible fully.

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Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.
Psalm 148:4

This was written by King David AFTER Noah's Flood, so you can't say the Firmament was destroyed in the flood.

Other translations use "Praise Him, highest heavens" which cannot be the clouds which are definitely not in the "highest heavens" or "heavens of heavens".

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 19, 2016, 06:05:42 PM »
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Your do understand what a panorama is right?  When I look up at the Milky Way (the local part of the spiral that we're seeing anyway), it is pretty much straight across the sky.  It's consistent with the globe model.

I can see the Milky Way on a clear night, every night at midnight, and the obvious curve led me to create this thread.

Other people notice the curve too which is why i am not the first one to bring it up on the internet.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 19, 2016, 06:00:11 PM »
Add the fact that NEVER has two arms of the Milky Way been photographed, observed or noted EVER. Not by airplane, observatory, satellite, spaceship, NOTHING.

We are located in between two arms, there should be two arms visible SOMEWHERE.

Also, the proportions on the length of the Milky Way Panorama is WAY OFF from the diagram of the Milky Way Galaxy which shows the Sun to be smaller than the stars. The length of the arm should never appear curved and should almost appear nearly straight at all angles.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 19, 2016, 12:23:28 PM »
What part of "in the midst of the waters" do you not understand?

You can't create something "in the midst" of water to "separate water above from water below" without there actually being water above.

Saying the "water above" is clouds would not actually put the "water above" the sky now would it? It would be inside it.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 19, 2016, 12:14:49 PM »
And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at the Panorama of the Milky Way and see it is not consistent with the Globe model.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 19, 2016, 12:13:59 PM »
Look, you're wrong bro. You obvious haven't studied the Bible. All the ancient civilizations including the Hebrews, ancient Greeks, Persians, Egyptians believed the Sky was a Solid Dome and the Earth is Flat.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 19, 2016, 12:06:52 PM »
The Bible is clear that the Firmament is a Solid Dome (Raqiya) that separates Water Above from Water Below.

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And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:6-8

The Bible is also clear that the Stars are Lights that were placed INSIDE the Firmament to mark the times, seasons and religious festivals. This alone proves universal expansion incorrect because year after year the Stars move according to the seasons and return back where the started. In fact, after 5000 years of reliable historical records and star charts, NONE of the constellations or stars have shifted. The Big Dipper is still the Big Dipper, and Leo is still Leo.



The Visible Arch of the Milky Way Galaxy is an undisputed fact.

The explanation however, is that the curve is due to the spiral of the arm:


But notice how the Sun is not even visible in the diagram and the stars are much bigger than the sun, NOT TO MENTION that GIANT BRIGHT CENTER of the Milky Way that should somehow be visible in the night sky.

This is not consistent with stars all appear to be small and the same size with the Sun and Moon being much larger (and ironically the same exact size).



TL;DR We should be seeing stars MUCH bigger than our Sun.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What more proof do you need?
« on: September 19, 2016, 07:59:45 AM »
LOL @ all the people saying photoshop.

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Flat Earth General / What more proof do you need?
« on: September 18, 2016, 07:33:09 PM »


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The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
Psalm 19:1

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What I complain about is your continual "holier than thou" attitude; claiming that all who don't as like you do are "Shills" and far worse.
You remind me of the Scribes and Pharisees of the New Testament.
You have every right to believe all these things. But you have no right to denigrate everyone who disagrees with you!
Believe what you will, but until you can claim omniscience and perfection, let others believe what they will without these vile accusations.
This sort of thing:
"My theory is you are all children of NWO Satanists with no real skills to offer".
"I reserve the right not to respond to obvious trolls/shills such as yourself." This mind you above a picture claiming something demonstrably false!

That's funny, because in reality it is the exact opposite!

This is the Flat Earth Society, so my beliefs are consistent with the discussion. You Round-Earthers on the other hand, claim heliocentric model to be 100% truth and call everyone stupid who disagrees.

I am here to set the record straight (Which Jesus did by calling the Pharisees hypocrites).

So YOU are the Pharisee who is spreading lies and heresy.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: iWitness' "Proofs" of Flat Earth
« on: August 23, 2016, 05:06:50 AM »
Terrible Rebuttal I give it 2/10 stars.

1. Everyone knows the horizon is flat and eye level.

2. Water is Flat and Level hence "Levels" are made using water.

3. Can you prove that? There are star charts from China that are 3000+ years old that match perfectly with modern star charts. So we have absolutely no proof that Thuban was the North star, just a theory.

4. NASA seems to disagree with you, "The Moon's size and distance contribute to a wonderful coincidence for those of us who live here on Earth. The Moon is about 400 times smaller than the Sun, but it also just happens to be about 400 times closer. The result is that from Earth, they appear to be the same size."
Source: http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/review/dr-marc-earth/moon-general.html

5. Tell me how the sun's reflection can even reach the feet of the observer when the "curve" of the earth should be blocking the sun's rays from reaching that far?



It is scientific fact that light converges to a point on a sphere:


6. If raindrops are individually creating prisms of light then how come rainbows don't consist of millions of tiny rainbows? Instead, it is one large rainbow with the colors going through multiple raindrops.



Also, rainbows that are created inside using a mirror are straight. Rainbows outside are curved, why? Where is the curved polarized lens that is making the rainbow curved? Hmm, could be the Crystal Dome Firmament.

7. Wrong again, in 1901 "Italian physicist and radio pioneer Guglielmo Marconi succeeds in sending the first radio transmission across the Atlantic Ocean, disproving detractors who told him that the curvature of the earth would limit transmission to 200 miles or less. "
Source: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/marconi-sends-first-atlantic-wireless-transmission

8. I mean come on now... the fact they can bounce radio waves off the sky should give you a clue. The Bible clearly says the sky is a Crystal Dome.

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Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?
Job 37:18

9. Actually, it was proven recently that it is not a mirage:


10. It means that pictures taken from airplanes, the ground and all other angles all show the pyramids in the same orientation. Meaning the earth is not a spinning ball. If it were a spinning ball then the pyramids would be "tilted" in different directions depending on the orientation of the earth and the observer.

11. It is misleading to use static figures for the earth's curve, when the curve gets exponentially larger the further the distance. At 8 inches x Miles (squared) you get 600 feet over 30 miles drop in curvature. It is easy to see 30 miles on a clear day and never has anyone seen or measured 600 foot drop over 30 miles.

12. Definitely proof:


13.  That's strange, they claim THIS is the real photo of earth (looks much different)
http://gizmodo.com/5909215/this-is-the-definitive-photograph-of-planet-earth

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Unlike NASA's Blue Marble—which is a composite made from many different photographs—this is a portrait of Earth taken in one single shot.

Note: We all know that none of these ball-earth photos are real.

14. Yawn.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Proof that FE is religious Islam extremism
« on: August 23, 2016, 04:37:57 AM »
You know who else believed the earth was flat?

The Egyptians, The Persians, The Hebrews, Early Christians, the Babylonians, the Romans and Greeks.

Perhaps the earth is just FLAT, and it doesn't matter what religion you are?

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Flat Earth Q&A / How did you become a Shill?
« on: August 22, 2016, 11:32:35 AM »
Hello, I was just curious how most of you got into the position of shilling?

My theory is you are all children of NWO Satanists with no real skills to offer, so they gave you the easiest job possible (being an idiot). I could be wrong, but it's the only explanation I could come up with where you would be on the "inside" and have nothing better to do than shill forums all day (in your parents basement).

So, shills, how did it really happen for you?

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I did not say all authority is corrupt, but it would be ridiculous to imply that no corruption exists.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Surveyors
« on: August 22, 2016, 11:03:49 AM »
Actually Land Surveyors prove the earth is flat. That is because all land surveys use a local flat plane for the surveys and do not take the earth's curve into consideration. This is important because land surveys have been shown to match up perfectly over multiple counties without the curve accounted for.


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Is the Founder of Modern Rocket Science trying to tell us something?



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The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
Psalm 19:1



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And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:6-8

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Horus?
Krishna?
Zoroaster?
Attis?

All of these predate Christ.  Some even predate Judaism.

I don't think you'll have to search hard for other gods claiming to be the only god.  That's just monotheism.

I think it's so ironic (and a bit hypocritical) that you will use these psuedo-Gods as examples.

Sure, there have been hundreds if not thousands of so-called Gods through-out the ages, but where are these Books or Records of these Gods' existence? How do you know they are accurate?

You see, the Holy Bible has been copied, translated and shared across the world. It is the most popular book of all time, and it is a collection of 66 books. The fact that the Holy Book remains 99.9999% accurate over thousands of years, copies and translations speaks to it's miraculous and historical authenticity.

These other Gods and books that you speak of are not even close to the level of historical accuracy that the Holy Bible is. For instance, no real historian disputes the Babylonian Kingdom, Roman and Greek Kingdoms, Persian and Mede Kingdoms, Israel, etc. The Bible is the story of all the ancient civilizations we all now are true.

There are thousands of Dates, Events, Geneological records, Cities and Kingdoms and recent excavations have all proven it to be true. For instance, Jericho, Tyre, Damascus, Israel, Judea, Rome, Nineveh, are all real cities.

Even Sodom and Gomorrah has been found with REAL Sulfur Brimestone hail:

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So this is a jpeg artifact??


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