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Do you guys know why the Irish are mad? I'll tell you, but first if you wouldn't mind demonstrating why they are mad first I'd appreciate it.

Jura, Kabool, Pez. Could you please show us why the Irish are mad?

I'm not sure why you baited us into watching a stabbing but I presume it's because of what you baited us into watching. Next question.

Let me guess!

A brown man did a bad thing.

Racists have jumped on this as proof that all brown people are out to kill white ones.

Dispo did a sex wee.

if you wouldn't mind demonstrating why they are mad first I'd appreciate it.

Racists have jumped on this as proof that all brown people are out to kill white ones.

Thankyou.

With that in mind we could talk about measures that would actually bring down tensions instead of inflaming them. This should be very simple but apparently our best and brightest can't figure it out so I will walk you through it slowly.

When something like this happens and people get upset, calling the people who are upset racist inflames tensions. Having an honest conversation about immigration and crime cools the tension.

What the UK are doing currently having a national conversation about their polices racism training cools tensions. Everyone talks about how Elon Musk is apparently trying to start a revolution, but no one talks about how calling people racist after something like this happens does far more to incite a revolution.

We are apparently either to believe that the people in charge don't understand this because they are really, really stupid or they just want violent unrest.

By “the Irish”, do you mean the small minority of far right thugs rioting in Belfast?

Is it because they are far right thugs looking for an excuse to set fire to shit, organised and promoted online by far right cowards who like to goad others to set fire to shit?

If Dr Strangemusk for example thinks this is all so good, maybe he should come on over and torch some innocent brown people homes, lob some bricks at the law, etc. 

By “the Irish”, do you mean the small minority of far right thugs rioting in Belfast?

Ah so close, but alas so far.
See one more time.

When something like this happens and people get upset, calling the people who are upset racist inflames tensions.

It's very easy to understand.
If you want violent riots you call the people who get upset when something happens that is upsetting for a reasonable person racist.

Sure fire way to get riots.
However if you want to avoid riots then a different tact is necessary.

We are apparently either to believe that the people in charge don't understand this because they are really, really stupid or they just want violent unrest.

Im gonna go play the PC port of Twilight Princess. Apparently its good.

Sorry if the video offended anyone but we had to watch George Floyds murder, 24/7 for nearly a month so I thought it would be ok. This guy is in hospital in a serious condition but hes alive. We watched a police officer literally choke the life out of an otherwise healthy George Floyd on the news and no one thought it was graphic or shouldnt be played hundreds of times per day.

Youre welcome to delete the link, I just think the footage is being suppressed for political reasons rather than because it's graphic.

Ja ne.

No, what happens is, something happens that involves a brown person, like the Sikh nutter that killed the kid and the police fuck up the response, the family ask that people do not blow it up as a race thing, and low and behold the usual suspects make it a race thing.

People like you do the Tucker thing of “I’m just asking.”, Nigel garbage says people should react with fury, Twatter explodes with misinformation, and people (racists) go out on the streets to smash shit up and attack minorities because they feel emboldened to do so, and we are not supposed to call them out because it inflames things, bullshit.

There are racists, there will always be racists. In times of sanity they are cowed to silence, these are not times of sanity so you can come out from under your stones, unfurl your flags and reprehensible views, assured that they have the backing of the powers that are pushing division for their own advancement.

the usual suspects make it a race thing.

That's exactly what I'm saying. When something like this happens and your first concern is about racism, it makes it about race.

Its also trying to incite violent riots.

Which, you, like our ruling class and GCHQ apparently don't know because you're just really, really stupid. Not because you want violent unrest. Never assume malice when mouth breathing, drooling stupidity will suffice

My first concern isn’t racism, it was for the poor kid and the shitty response of the police.
What makes it racist is all the flag shagging wankers that flood the streets, internet morons making threads, and “populist” fuckwit politicians pushing division.

I’m not on the streets breaking windows, attacking the police, and torching Asian taxi firms, but somehow if I see that, and respond with the only answer that makes any sense, it’s my fault? Moron.

Quote from: Unconvinced on June 10, 2026, 02:54:11 AM

By “the Irish”, do you mean the small minority of far right thugs rioting in Belfast?

Ah so close, but alas so far.
See one more time.

Quote from: disputeone on June 10, 2026, 02:41:21 AM

When something like this happens and people get upset, calling the people who are upset racist inflames tensions.

It's very easy to understand.
If you want violent riots you call the people who get upset when something happens that is upsetting for a reasonable person racist.

Sure fire way to get riots.
However if you want to avoid riots then a different tact is necessary.

Quote from: disputeone on June 10, 2026, 02:41:21 AM

We are apparently either to believe that the people in charge don't understand this because they are really, really stupid or they just want violent unrest.

Reasonable people get upset when horrible shit happens.  Far right RACIST thugs use it as an excuse to riot and attack innocents, terrorise communities and set shit on fire. 

See the difference, dipshit?  No one is calling anyone racist for getting upset.

Let’s compare one Nigel Farage’s reaction with the rape and murder of Sarah Everard by police officer Wayne Couzens.  Couzens used his authority as a police officer to handcuff Everard, then he drove her out of town, raped her, strangled her, burned her body and dumped the remains in a pond.

Lots of people were understandably upset.  There were peaceful vigils (some violating Covid restrictions, but peaceful), people wanted to know if there were any previous red flags about Couzens (there were lots).

Farage said it was important not for it to turn into attacks on men or the police (even though that wasn’t happening):  “When we saw the Couzens case, I thought it was horrific, but you know what, you’re going to get one bad person in any large group of people.”

All the voice of reason when it’s a white perpetrator.  We can’t judge whole groups of people on the actions of individuals, etc, etc.  But when it’s a foreigner or a Muslim or some other minority, he calls for “cold hard rage”.  Because he’s a fucking RACIST.

You might call that “two tier politics”.

Im gonna go play the PC port of Twilight Princess. Apparently its good.

Sorry if the video offended anyone but we had to watch George Floyds murder, 24/7 for nearly a month so I thought it would be ok. This guy is in hospital in a serious condition but hes alive. We watched a police officer literally choke the life out of an otherwise healthy George Floyd on the news and no one thought it was graphic or shouldnt be played hundreds of times per day.

Youre welcome to delete the link, I just think the footage is being suppressed for political reasons rather than because it's graphic.

Ja ne.

I had no intention of watching George Floyd die over and over again either if that is of any consolation to you.

I asked about this in the other thread. I think I get what D1 is saying. The politicians are either riling people up, or telling people to keep calm. The riling up messages are working better than the keep calm messages. The first has the benefit of graphic video to go along with the message. I think those wanting calm need a better strategy.

Are you sure that’s what he’s saying?

There are vastly more people not rioting than rioting.  We’ll know if the racist politicians message is working for them when we see if their polling goes up or down as a result.

But some things just come down to right and wrong.  Those calling for calm, including the families of both recent victims are right, and those inciting violence are very wrong.  Agree or disagree?

I am never entirely sure.

I don't know who is inciting violence. On one hand you have some politicians posting things like "enough" and others urging calm, and it seems the normies (who are not rioting) are feeling angry and ignored by your govt.

Oh my God.

Maybe it’s the politicians, community leaders, police, etc calling for calm that are inciting violence?  Maybe it’s victims families pleading with people not to do this?  Maybe it’s the innocent brown people burned out of their home home by racist thugs for, you know, existing?

It’s so fucking hard to tell isn’t it?

I mean, it could be the video of a man trying to saw another man's head off inciting the violence. Plus the one recently of the police arresting a man who'd just been fatally stabbed.  Just a guess, though.

It’s all coming out now isn’t it?

When a brown man commits a crime, it’s open season on innocent brown people.

Burn them from their homes! Fuck them all!

Kinda sucks being at the business end of guilt by association, doesn't it?

Reasonable people get upset when horrible shit happens.

Right and calling them racist incites violent riots.

Which, you, like our ruling class and GCHQ apparently don't know because you're just really, really stupid. Not because you want violent unrest. Never assume malice when mouth breathing, drooling stupidity will suffice.

Are you sure that’s what he’s saying?
There are vastly more people not rioting than rioting.

Yes but the people who arent rioting are still reasonably upset, and calling them racist incites violent riots.

Which, you, like our ruling class and GCHQ apparently don't know because you're just really, really stupid. Not because you want violent unrest. Never assume malice when mouth breathing, drooling stupidity will suffice.

Quote from: disputeone on June 10, 2026, 03:07:55 AM

Im gonna go play the PC port of Twilight Princess. Apparently its good.

Sorry if the video offended anyone but we had to watch George Floyds murder, 24/7 for nearly a month so I thought it would be ok. This guy is in hospital in a serious condition but hes alive. We watched a police officer literally choke the life out of an otherwise healthy George Floyd on the news and no one thought it was graphic or shouldnt be played hundreds of times per day.

Youre welcome to delete the link, I just think the footage is being suppressed for political reasons rather than because it's graphic.

Ja ne.

I had no intention of watching George Floyd die over and over again either if that is of any consolation to you.

The news played it multiple times per day for multiple weeks. Imagine a self avowed marxist pretending not to understand propaganda.

You know when you guys try to figure out wtf is going on in the US when something crazy happens? That's all I'm doing. I see normal, not racist, not violent people are upset. I see your MPs calling for ofcom to censor social media in response to all the upset.

I really don't believe that your Nigel incited riots and arson with tweets. There are always people waiting for a chance to start something. This time I think there is a rage simmering.

Instead of being mad at me for trying to understand, just have the conversation. Or don't! I'm not the boss of you.

When US cities were on fire after another black kid got shot for crimes against epidermal complexion, I remember certain people saying (rightly) that burning down your neighbourhood was not an appropriate response!

How do you look in the mirror?

Moving past Jura trying to imply that SCG supports the riots (you really have evil down to a fine art). Lets talk about the riots which no one here has shown any support for.

Who is leading these riots? A good question, his name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, he's a Zionist jew with ties to Mossad. If you haven't heard of him it's probably because Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon apparently doesn't sound limey enough.

This is some quality slop Jura, I am just eating this up and can't get enough, can I please have some more?

Spacey.

Don’t listen to Dispo’s dog whistling, it’s the same old tropes that Elon and the gobshite that is Farage peddle to the uneducated, he doesn’t care about the subtleties of the situation as long as it increases division at the expense of immigrants.

FYI on Farage, he’s a privately educated, former commodity broker, Breitbart, pro-Russian, racist, money whore, who is quite happy to take millions from foreign billionaires, who haven’t asked him for anything, (yet), was joyful at Dulwich College leading his cronies through a local village singing Hitler youth songs, and now is trying (quite successfully) to gull the great unwashed into believing he’s a man of the people, he’s a reprehensible human. Which probably explains Dispo liking him.

I never posted that I support the arsonists. Even after I tell you this several times, you still imply that I support the arsonists. Why?

I don't like your Nigel anymore than you like Trump.

And..........I never said you did.