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The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism

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The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« on: June 09, 2026, 04:18:34 PM »
After this thread "It needs the fall of American regime as well as Israeli regime" and others like it, I think we need Westerners who oppose actions against Iran to take a good long look in the mirror, and understand what they are actually claiming they stand for.

The world absolutely needs America to stand with Israel, far more than it needs to stand with Ukraine. One of these is out of line, and trying to push us into nuclear war with a country that would bomb us to dust if they got mad enough, and the other represents an expansionist regime that will first push Israel's people into the sea,

and then continue with the Zoroastrians (rather easy), Hindus, Shintos, and Christians. I'm talking about Islam, in case you missed it, something that Hitler supported.  So yup, right out of the gate, we're invoking Hitler.  How do you justify continued support of "Palestine" and Iran against Israel? How do you justify opposing the "American and Israeli regime" as you call it, in the face of that?

Also, I wanted to write one of these "Why do you support..." polls, and today was the day.
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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2026, 10:15:09 PM »
What a stupid question. "Oh you think Palestine should be free? But what about the Israelis?" Well what about the Palestinians?
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2026, 11:08:42 PM »
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2026, 09:53:40 AM »
I've heard.

I consider it less offensive than telling me that not only did not die on the cross, but that he had Judas do it for him.

Meanwhile, in every way that matters, despite the scorn and mockery, Jews admit that Jesus was in fact crucified.
https://www.thetorah.com/article/behind-the-mockery-jewish-responses-to-jesus-crucifixion-and-resurrection
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    בבלי סנהדרין מג. בְּעֶרֶב הַפֶּסַח תְּלָאוּהוּ לְיֵשׁוּ הַנּוֹצְרִי, וְהַכָּרוֹז יוֹצֵא לְפָנָיו אַרְבָּעִים יוֹם: ״יֵשׁוּ הַנּוֹצְרִי יוֹצֵא לִיסָּקֵל עַל שֶׁכִּישֵּׁף וְהֵסִית וְהִדִּיחַ אֶת יִשְׂרָאֵל. כׇּל מִי שֶׁיּוֹדֵעַ לוֹ זְכוּת יָבוֹא וִילַמֵּד עָלָיו״. וְלֹא מָצְאוּ לוֹ זְכוּת, וּתְלָאוּהוּ בְּעֶרֶב הַפֶּסַח.

    b San 43a On Passover Eve they hung [the corpse of] Jesus the Nazarene [after they had stoned him]. And a crier had gone out before him for forty days [publicly proclaiming]: Jesus the Nazarene is going to be stoned because he practiced sorcery, incited [the Jewish people to commit idolatry], and led them astray. Anyone who can say anything in his favor should come forward and plead on his behalf. But they could find nothing in his favor, and they hung him on Passover Eve.
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    סבר את בגרמך \ דאת צלב לגרמך \ ואנא שותף עימך

    Do you believe that you alone, that you alone were crucified? I too shared your lot.

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    סמיר על קיס \ ובשרי לטופח נקיס \ ובר נגיד הקיס

    Nailed to wood, my flesh slashed at hand-breadth length, I am the son of one who carries wood [i.e., a carpenter]

    סכיף באיסקוטוס \ מן אתא זיניטוס \ וקרון יתי כריסטוס

    Lashed by rods, of woman born, they call me the savior (christos).

    סמר במסמרין \ בגפיי מסמרין \ טב מיני אכל שע[רין]

    Pierced with nails, my limbs clamped into place, a barley eater is better than I.

    ספיה די נקיב[תה] \ עבידין בהתה \ בכל [אתר] ומדינתה \ א' פ[ל]וני

    This is the end of the pierced one, disgraced in every [place] and town

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    תרגום שני אסתר ז:ט אציתו לי אילניא וכל שתיליא דשתילו מן יומא דבראשית  דבר המדתא בעי למסוק לאכסנדריא דבר פנדירא! אתכנשו כולהון ועטו עיטה: מן דרומיה חמשין אמין יצטלב המן על רישיה.

    Targum Sheni Esther 7:9 Listen to me, all you trees and plants that I have planted from the days of creation: The son of Hamdatha wants to go up on the high mast (=cross, gallows) of Bar-Pandera (=Jesus)! So assemble all of you and take counsel, whichever of you is fifty cubits in height, Haman shall be impaled upon its head.


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    ובאותה שעה נהרג והיה יום שישי והיה ערב פסח וערב שבת. כשהביאו לתלותו על עץ היה נשבר שהיה שם המפורש עמו

    At that hour he was killed and it was the sixth day [of the week] and it was the eve of Pesach and the eve of the Sabbath. When they brought [him] to be hanged on a tree, [the] tree would break because he possessed the Ineffable Name.

Christians are the grafted tree of of Judaism. The Nazis tried to get the Christians to attack the root of their own tree, hoping when that was over, they could rid the world of Christianity.

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BBC historian Laurence Rees characterises Hitler's relationship to religion as one of opportunism and pragmatism: "his relationship in public to Christianity – indeed his relationship to religion in general – was opportunistic. There is no evidence that Hitler himself, in his personal life, ever expressed any individual belief in the basic tenets of the Christian church".

According to Speer, Hitler's private secretary, Martin Bormann, relished recording any harsh pronouncements by Hitler against the church.[58] Speer considered Bormann to be the driving force behind the regime's campaign against the churches. Speer thought that Hitler approved of Bormann's aims, but was more pragmatic and wanted to "postpone this problem to a more favourable time":[59]

"Once I have settled my other problem," [Hitler] occasionally declared, "I'll have my reckoning with the church. I'll have it reeling on the ropes."

"We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany."

The Jews, Christians, Shinto, Zoroastrians, and Sikhs (maybe Buddhists too) are the world's last defense against the horde of uncivilized woke atheists.

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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2026, 12:22:20 PM »
Buddists are athiests. 
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2026, 01:34:02 PM »
Buddists are atheists.

But yet atheists aren't necessarily Buddhists.
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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2026, 02:38:48 PM »
Buddists are atheists.

But yet atheists aren't necessarily Buddhists.
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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2026, 03:26:51 PM »
Buddists are athiests nontheists.
FTFY
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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2026, 03:27:00 PM »
In mathematics, they call that non-commutativity. And generally, it doesn't work in math. In real life, it does work, but we have to ask ourselves what the difference is.
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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2026, 11:50:31 PM »
In mathematics, they call that non-commutativity. And generally, it doesn't work in math.

What was that again?
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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2026, 03:06:20 AM »
Basically, they meaning math teachers.

A=B, but B=/= A is pretty rare in math, but outside of it, somewhat common.
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2026, 05:27:51 AM »
Basically, they meaning math teachers.

A=B, but B=/= A is pretty rare in math, but outside of it, somewhat common.

It's not just rare, it doesn't make any sense the way you wrote it. Actual non commutativity that makes sense is very common in math, it's when A*B is different from B*A or more generally when the order of doing something matters. It happens all the time!
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2026, 11:25:37 AM »
Well, whatever.
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It's not just rare, it doesn't make any sense the way you wrote it.
The point is that in reality, Nazi sympathizers can be dog owners but dog owners may not be Nazi sympathizers.

That literally is an A=B, but not B=A equation.
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2026, 11:57:47 AM »
Antisemitism is disgusting, but speaking out about the actions of Isreal is not antisemitism.  The Israeli government and pro Isreal lobbies have been hard at work trying to make them the same thing.  Now antisemitism is on the rise.  Did they really think that one through?

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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2026, 04:17:44 PM »
speaking out about the actions of Isreal is not antisemitism. 

Yes it is.
By definition.
You're an anti-semite by definition.

Like Greta Thunberg.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2026, 04:50:58 PM »
The Jews are Semites.

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"Semite" (Semitic) originally refers to a group of peoples who speak or historically spoke Semitic languages — a branch of the larger Afroasiatic language family. Semitic languages include Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Amharic, Tigrinya, Phoenician, Akkadian and others.

 Linguistic group: it's primarily a linguistic/ethnolinguistic category, not a single racial or religious group.
Peoples included: historically and today, Semitic-speaking peoples include Jews, Arabs, many peoples of the Levant and parts of the Horn of Africa and Mesopotamia.
 Not synonymous with religion: being a Semite is not the same as being Jewish; Jews are one Semitic-origin people but Semitic peoples also include many non-Jewish groups (e.g., Arabs, Ethiopians).
 Modern usage: in contemporary discourse "antisemitism" specifically refers to hostility toward Jews, even though the literal term would cover other Semitic peoples; the accepted definition and use of "antisemitism" is focused on anti-Jewish bias.

The reason it's seldom used against Muslims is that Semitic Arabs mix with other peoples as far as Europe, Russia, parts of Asia (especially Indonesia) and Africa. They are no longer strictly a linguistic or racial group. So we kinda have to refer to the people who tend to stick to that region and that language. But many Muslims don't speak Arabic much at all.

We could as soon say "I'm not antisemitic, I just think the nation of Iran shouldn't exist!"

But I'm a whole hell of a lot more honest about what I think should happen to Iran, and you can read my signature if you're confused about it.

Israel should be a land of the Jews, Iran should be the land of the Zoroastrians, and Muslims can fuck off and go be Bedouins and Nabataeans again.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2026, 11:28:18 PM »
The reason it's seldom used against Muslims is that Semitic Arabs mix with other peoples as far as Europe, Russia, parts of Asia (especially Indonesia) and Africa.

Unlike Jews who never left the Levant and never mixed with anyone, especially not anyone from Europe or Russia.

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But many Muslims don't speak Arabic much at all.

Wow, I wonder if that has something to do with the fact that most Muslims aren't Arabs.

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We could as soon say "I'm not antisemitic, I just think the nation of Iran shouldn't exist!"

I've no idea what you are trying to say.

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Israel should be a land of the Jews, Iran should be the land of the Zoroastrians, and Muslims can fuck off and go be Bedouins and Nabataeans again.


lmao
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2026, 11:30:13 PM »
Well, whatever.
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It's not just rare, it doesn't make any sense the way you wrote it.
The point is that in reality, Nazi sympathizers can be dog owners but dog owners may not be Nazi sympathizers.

That literally is an A=B, but not B=A equation.

I'm only engaging with this because Unconvinced thought it would be fun.

No it's not. It's a case of A⊂B but not B⊂A . Look up subsets.
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2026, 05:03:31 AM »
The reason it's seldom used against Muslims is that Semitic Arabs mix with other peoples as far as Europe, Russia, parts of Asia (especially Indonesia) and Africa.

Unlike Jews who never left the Levant and never mixed with anyone, especially not anyone from Europe or Russia.

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But many Muslims don't speak Arabic much at all.

Wow, I wonder if that has something to do with the fact that most Muslims aren't Arabs.

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We could as soon say "I'm not antisemitic, I just think the nation of Iran shouldn't exist!"

I've no idea what you are trying to say.

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Israel should be a land of the Jews, Iran should be the land of the Zoroastrians, and Muslims can fuck off and go be Bedouins and Nabataeans again.


lmao

That's exactly it, most Muslims aren't Arab, they are Arab conquered people or people who the Arabs mixed with.

The Jews might occasionally mix racially, but you are very much expected to live in Jewishville in America, usually a five block radius in a town where keeping kosher is tightly enforced. You will speak Hebrew (or Yiddish), you will honor the Sabbath. And no eating after midnight, and stay away from water and sunlight.

What I am trying to say is that people here are like " I'm not antisemitic but Israel shouldn't exist." Though this analogy might fall apart for Iran as they are a bit east of the Semitic region.
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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2026, 07:51:58 AM »
speaking out about the actions of Isreal is not antisemitism. 

Yes it is.
By definition.
You're an anti-semite by definition.

Like Greta Thunberg.

https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

”Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.”

The IHRA’s working definition of antisemitism is the closest we have to an internationally recognised definition.  Although not everyone agrees with the text.

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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2026, 11:55:14 AM »
The reason it's seldom used against Muslims is that Semitic Arabs mix with other peoples as far as Europe, Russia, parts of Asia (especially Indonesia) and Africa.

Unlike Jews who never left the Levant and never mixed with anyone, especially not anyone from Europe or Russia.

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But many Muslims don't speak Arabic much at all.

Wow, I wonder if that has something to do with the fact that most Muslims aren't Arabs.

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We could as soon say "I'm not antisemitic, I just think the nation of Iran shouldn't exist!"

I've no idea what you are trying to say.

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Israel should be a land of the Jews, Iran should be the land of the Zoroastrians, and Muslims can fuck off and go be Bedouins and Nabataeans again.


lmao

That's exactly it, most Muslims aren't Arab, they are Arab conquered people or people who the Arabs mixed with.

The Jews might occasionally mix racially, but you are very much expected to live in Jewishville in America, usually a five block radius in a town where keeping kosher is tightly enforced. You will speak Hebrew (or Yiddish), you will honor the Sabbath. And no eating after midnight, and stay away from water and sunlight.

What I am trying to say is that people here are like " I'm not antisemitic but Israel shouldn't exist." Though this analogy might fall apart for Iran as they are a bit east of the Semitic region.

When did the Arabs conquer Indonesia or Bosnia?

Who told you most Jews in the US live in Jewishville and speak Hebrew (lol almost none of them speak Hebrew)?

What language do you think Yiddish is more like?
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2026, 05:22:24 PM »
Conquer?

Islam has three or four tools in its arsenal to take over a land.

1. Outright conquest. This works best when there aren't the trappings of civilization, or if they can convince the public that a land is evil and needs to be fought against.
2. Outbreeding. Muslims have large families with multiple wives. This means one man could have five children with one wife, and about four wives, for about twenty children. Most modern cultures have 1.5 children these days. Pretty soon, the population of non-Muslims is outnumbered.
3. Education. Islam likes to take over the education apparatus, either by building Muslim schools or getting native schools woke enough that they teach Islam.
4. "Minority" "Independence". This is a favorite plan. Instead of overpopulating the population itself, breed with minority groups, and basically take over the minority. Then claim you are oppressed, and that you need to be "free" from the original state. Attack the original state. Pakistan, Palestine, and others have done this.

In history class, the teacher gushed over the "ingenuity" of Muslims.

Basically, the area around Indonesia and the Phillipines had heard what happens to Islamic countries. So they told them, "No, you absolutely cannot build homes on our land." So they built homes on the water, where there were no land rights needed. Yeah, I heard about this, and I didn't see ingenuity, but raw aggression and stubbornness. When insects try to enter the home, you spray repellent, you try to scare them away. You swat near them to try to encourage them to fuck off. When they don't fuck off and insist on trying to chew on the wood in your house, you might have to crush their heads. This is self-defense. When someone/something threatens your homeland and its safety, you have to stop them.

Yes, Israel does have the right to fight against Islamic countries when they behave like this.

I suppose turn the other cheek would be another approach. But this only works on people who have empathy to your suffering. And it's not to be confused with surrender. The West has surrendered, not turned the other cheek.

This is turning the other cheek, and it's the manliest thing you can do. And this is why the Middle East sees us as weak, because we don't show them this.

People think turning the other cheek is a command, like you're not a good Christian if you fight back. But when I was working at the library, they talked about how if a guy with a gun comes in, you should make up your mind what you want to do, so you don't freeze. Usually, it's fight or run. But there are a number of different actions you can do. Jesus taught that one. But if you don't know how to do it well (e.g. it comes across instead as being a doormat), or can't continue until the end, you shouldn't bother. What you do, you should resolve to do quickly. 

You can also do nothing when someone threatens you with violence.

But if your loved ones are threatened, sometimes this is no longer really an option.

The Muslims did indeed conquer these countries. Through the use of strategy.
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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2026, 12:39:05 AM »
I always like how you start from a preconception and then manufacture an entire reality to fit your preconception instead of changing it. However you said a bunch of imagined nonsense about Muslims, and I said "Arabs". It seems like you are confused about the difference of these two words.


But you didn't answer the other two questions, I want to see what you invent there.
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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2026, 01:22:23 AM »

2. Outbreeding. Muslims have large families with multiple wives. This means one man could have five children with one wife, and about four wives, for about twenty children. Most modern cultures have 1.5 children these days. Pretty soon, the population of non-Muslims is outnumbered.

Fun fact about polygamy:

Counties can allow a man to have multiple wives, but that doesn’t magic up more women for every man. 

Your average family in these places is not one man with four wives, because the number of men and women is generally about equal.

That is neither all Muslim countries or only Muslim countries.

The Catholic Church’s historical opposition to any form or birth control has lead to some very high population growth in many majority Catholic countries.  In terms of population growth, it doesn’t really matter who women are married to, just birth rates, infant mortality, death rates, life expectancy and migration.

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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2026, 04:39:25 AM »
I always like how you start from a preconception and then manufacture an entire reality to fit your preconception instead of changing it. However you said a bunch of imagined nonsense about Muslims, and I said "Arabs". It seems like you are confused about the difference of these two words.

But you didn't answer the other two questions, I want to see what you invent there.

Arabs are the original Semitic genetic stock of Islam. But similar to Taylor Swift shedding her Christian country roots to be an urban leftie (paradoxically also being completely dishonest about her own lesbian relationships, and how chummy she is around women vs how much the men she's with look like beards),

they put spreading their wicked ideology above their own background, stemming from shame about where they really came from.
https://www.soamibooks.com/post/the-pagan-origins-of-eid-and-ramadan-what-islam-doesn-t-tell-you
Yes, your question is about Arabs not Muslims. But while Arabs can be Muslims at a high rate, Muslims are not Arabs. And thus, you can't really make antisemitism about them.

You could kill all Muslims, and it would be about wiping out an ideology, not destroying a race. This is why Trump is wrong if he says that he will have to end the lives of everyone in Iran. He just has to slaughter all the imams, oust the leadership and put them on trial, and burn all the mosques and Qurans. The remaining Iranians, if they aren't too resentful, will instead go worship something else.

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Counties can allow a man to have multiple wives, but that doesn’t magic up more women for every man.
If it were about their own women, this is true. However, if they have decided they ate at war with a culture (and they are, anything that isn't Muslim), women are considered spoils. So you know why in Myanmar, the Buddhists are attacking Muslims when Buddhists don't attack anyone? It has to do with outpopulation because their women are stolen. Maybe peaceful Buddhist monks don't want their women raped and their children taught about Allah.
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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2026, 09:00:03 AM »
You’ve never actually met a Muslim person have you?

And what the actual fuck.  You talk like a terrorist.  You are the religious extremist.  I can only hope you are on everyone’s watchlist.
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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2026, 10:34:51 AM »
Classic deflection.

"You are the extremist, you are the terrorist, not us peaceful normal Muslims. And not us peaceful protestors against America, Trump, and Israel. We're normal, you see!" Of course, that seems legit.

For the record, I've met a Muslim gal in college. I got to see how this sweet girl went to the Passover Seder with Jews and Christians, then the Muslim community told her not to associate with those people.   

She was around my age, and her first name was Mina. Could this be her?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44496433
Everything I ever needed to know. Islam is a s**t religion that teaches people to behave like psychos.

Remove the religion, and the people go back to normal.

You think I sound like a terrorist? Think about this. I'm talking about killing (maybe) 1% of the population, destroying 100% of the "holy" books, 100% of the "holy" buildings, and leaving the region otherwise intact. You're talking about allowing more than 60% of the Jewish population to be killed so Palestine or Iran or whoever can take that land.

Which matters more? Human lives? Or books and architecture?

I'm maybe on Biden's watchlist, but he thinks people who burn cars are normal and upstanding.
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Re: The thread that focuses on rampant antisemitism
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2026, 11:18:52 AM »
Yeah, moron.  Talking about killing 1% of a population who reads a different holy book to you makes you sound like a terrorist.  Far closer to the worst of the jihadists than the vast majority of normal Muslims who just want to get on with their lives not being murdered by stupid sick fuck religious extremists.

Is sweet Mina or any of her family in the 1% of Muslims you want to slaughter in your holy war dreams  to wipe out her religion, terrorist?
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2026, 12:16:53 PM »
Is it 1% of the people? Or 100% of the imams?

Because that 100% of the imams is Middle Eastern countries' 1%.

Aren't you the same people who tell us we should take down the wealth elites? Well, these are the religion elites, and they hold 99% of the population in a state of fear with their daily calls to worship.

1% is a high estimate. I'm just talking about removing imams either by arrest or execution. But since imams tend to proselyze in prison, they would have be kept in solitary or killed.

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In many Muslim-majority countries there is roughly 1 mosque imam per several hundred to a few thousand congregants. That implies on the order of 0.05%–0.5% of Muslims serve as imams (about 1 in 200–1 in 2,000).
In countries with fewer mosques or more volunteer-led prayers the share is lower; in densely mosque-populated areas it’s higher.

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Making a reasonable estimate: Iran population ~88 million (2026). About 99% are Muslim → ~87 million Muslims. Estimates of mosques (2003 data) ~49,000–75,000 (various reports); if each mosque had one imam, that implies 49,000–75,000 imams.

Compute percent:

    Lower: 49,000 / 87,000,000 ≈ 0.056% (about 1 in 1,800)
    Upper: 75,000 / 87,000,000 ≈ 0.086% (about 1 in 1,160)

So roughly 0.06%–0.09% of Muslims in Iran are imams (order of magnitude: 1 in 1,200–1,800). These are approximate—counts of mosques and imams vary by source and some mosques lack full‑time imams.

Can you live with 0.06-0.09% of the population being arrested or killed? I can. If it saves the rest of the country from calls to martyrdom and war? Yes, the goal of peace involves stopping those who want to make war. 0.09% or potentially everyone?

Would I do the killing? Not a chance. The people of Iran ought to crowd in on their religious leaders and stone them to death.

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Iran’s census claims that 99.5% of the population are Muslim, a figure that hides the state’s active hostility toward irreligiosity, conversion and unrecognised religious minorities.

Compared with Iran’s 99.5% census figure, we found that only 40% identified as Muslim.

And of that remaining 40%, 20% more (that isn't 20% of 40%) want an end to the Islamic Republic.

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Our surveys consistently show that the majority shares a consensus on what it does not want. Across provinces, rural and urban areas, age groups and gender, roughly 70–80% say they would not vote for the Islamic Republic.

Only 20%. And of the remaining 20%, if they were told that this is an American asking, and the Ayatollah would not find out, likely only 5% really support Islam.

That's not terrorism. That's pest control. If American troops killed just the imams tomorrow, 95% of the population would probably thank us. Probably 5%, that's the highest amount that is likely siding with the Islamic state because they actually firmly believe in it. 
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By intertwining religion with authoritarian rule, the Islamic Republic has hollowed out Islam. Mosques are often deserted; young women publicly burn their hijabs; street art mocks religious figures. Protest chants like “We don’t want an Islamic Republic!” or “Clerics, get lost!” are not those of a devout majority—but the voice of a population that has rejected religion as tyranny.
The rest are only Muslims because the choice was that and being killed by a bunch of no-account thugs.

When you remove the religious element to this, it's just the 5% thugs which now don't have the religion to hide their psychopathy behind. They are just thugs. They get arrested. The End. 

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Is sweet Mina or any of her family in the 1% of Muslims you want to slaughter in your holy war dreams  to wipe out her religion, terrorist?

Maybe her family, if they led her to throw her life away.

But again, it's not my call.

If Trump were smart, he'd give Iran impossible choice.
"As long as Islam runs your country, it is in danger from war and repression. Surrender your religious leadership to international law now, or the whole country is doomed." Defend the 0.05% to 0.09%? Or get rid of them, their books, and their temples?

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