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Lorddave

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Also saying that Tucker Carlson wants to "snuff out the Jews" creates anti-semites. Just try it, go and tell people "Tucker Carlson wants to snuff out the Jews" and watch them become anti-semites in real time.

Tucker Carlson is very reasonable and he's trying to direct peoples noticing in a way that isn't hate. Which is good, he's a good man.

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Youve posted so many pictures and videos itt so far my phone can barely run it. Your computer must nearly catch fire when you open this thread considering how you thought Windows 10 was a type of motherboard which was limiting your usb ports.
He's a Russian SIMP.

He went to Russia and said how great it is and how cheap everything is.  All without any consideration for local salaries.

"You could feed a family of four for a week on $100!" He said, not bothering to see how much the average Russian family income is.
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Neither did you.

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The country’s average in March 2019 was just 46,324 rubles ($718)
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The minimum cost of living in the country reached 10,287 rubles ($159) per month

Now, yes, 12% of the population earns even less than that, and yes the minimum cost of living is pretty bare bones.

But if I can live for a month on $159 (this is what he means by a family of four, this is four paychecks), yeah this is pretty good. He's not shilling anything. The average salary is about 4.5 times what you need for a month. If you're one of the 12% that make less, well that sucks for you. But if you're perfectly average, you save alot of money.

By comparison, living in Richmond, VA, I was a minimum wage worker at Walmart. Worse, they played with their part-time salary, spacing hours out so you got about 2/3 of the income that should have been for the period.  And it was biweekly. I think I made barely enough for a $300 apartment and had to go on food stamps. Then they cut those off too because it was a certain number of weeks... but I was still struggling (why I don't trust the US government) so I instead went to the local church every month. If I had taken that same job near the DC area? The typical housing was $2000 to $3000. Cost of housing is out of control in America. Even if wages are bad in Russia, the cost of living is really great.

 
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Actually, Muslims think the Bible is irredeemably corrupted,

Which Is what you're arguing.
Its so corrupt you rewrote it.

No, I'm not.

Originally, I rewrote only one book (see the Ending Change attachment).  This was in lieu of Revelation, which Luther rejected, which many of the early church seriously questioned, and which portrays God as if he were Allah, mercilessly killing anyone who doesn't agree 100% with some narrow definition of the Bible.

Then it was too long to publish (Amazon KDP has about 500 page limit), so I removed Nahum (it undoes the mercy God gives to Ninevah, and while it is probably correct, it doesn't go with the overall teaching of the Bible), Hebrews (Luther didn't like it either), Jude (same reason as Revelation).  Then I didn't want any text that gave support to Revelation. So I cut out things that talked about Antichrist (singular), end times, or final judgement.

All this was great until I wanted to make a Kindle version. Then suddenly one of the reviewers was like "We think this is copyrighted. You awful person! Get the permission of the author." And I'm like, "Uhhhh, there is no way to get the permission of the author. They dead." I showed them that it wasn't copyright, and it is public domain, it means I'm free to do this, right?

No. Public domain means you can't publish it either, as per our rules.

So I edited it just for the sake of editing it, because they would not accept my copy.

But no, the Bible is not bad. Amazon KDP's standards for public domain works is bad. Public domain = no copyright. Yet, they were trying to somehow impose a copyright on something that had no copyright, meaning I had to change practically everything in order to publish a book that only had one major change.  So you can say that I kinda leaned into it.  But I know if anyone corrupted it, it was closer to me.

There are sections of the Bible that are in fact corrupt (specifically sections where the Jewish people didn't want to admit that God commanded them to accept the Messiah and that he would die on behalf of sins).  But Jesus himself predicted this:
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I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.

Why should I reject the Jewish people for doing exactly as Jesus predicted?

In Romans 11, it says that the Gentiles are granted in, and that even though Israel has disobeyed against God, the implication is that the root of this grafted tree is Jewish. Jesus, the perfect Jew, fulfilled the law, and therefore the only law we have is love and mercy.
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25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,

“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
    he will banish ungodliness from Jacob
and this will be my covenant with them
    when I take away their sins.”

28 As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy.

Did you catch that? Mercy is shown to you, because they also receive mercy.

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Neither did you.

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The country’s average in March 2019 was just 46,324 rubles ($718)
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The minimum cost of living in the country reached 10,287 rubles ($159) per month

Now, yes, 12% of the population earns even less than that, and yes the minimum cost of living is pretty bare bones.

But if I can live for a month on $159 (this is what he means by a family of four, this is four paychecks), yeah this is pretty good. He's not shilling anything. The average salary is about 4.5 times what you need for a month. If you're one of the 12% that make less, well that sucks for you. But if you're perfectly average, you save alot of money.

By comparison, living in Richmond, VA, I was a minimum wage worker at Walmart. Worse, they played with their part-time salary, spacing hours out so you got about 2/3 of the income that should have been for the period.  And it was biweekly. I think I made barely enough for a $300 apartment and had to go on food stamps. Then they cut those off too because it was a certain number of weeks... but I was still struggling (why I don't trust the US government) so I instead went to the local church every month. If I had taken that same job near the DC area? The typical housing was $2000 to $3000. Cost of housing is out of control in America. Even if wages are bad in Russia, the cost of living is really great.

Your ignorance is uncanny.
Family of 4 is not 4 incomes.  It's 1-2 incomes and 2 children.

Also. Cite your sources, please.
Also:
https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/smart-money/average-salary-in-us#:~:text=In%20the%20BLS'%20survey%20sample,week%20or%20%2467%2C964%20per%20year.&text=By%20comparison%2C%20women%20earn%20a,almost%2020%25%20less%20than%20men.
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That translates to a monthly income of $5,174, or $62,088 per year.
thats median, which is what you should measure, not average.  Shows that the half mark of wealth is $5,100 per month.  So half of America makes above that and half below.

Let's try median for Russia.


https://re-russia.net/en/analytics/0277/
2022 so bit old

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while the median income is 27,900 rubles (a little over $300).
So half of Russians are making only double bare minimum or less.  Think about that, eh?
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You clearly didn't read what I said.

I said it's actually BETTER than what Tucker Carlson said. If Trump overestimates everything, this was an underestimation.

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($159) per month

A month being 4 to 5 weeks. You could not only support 4 people for a week, but one person for a month.
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I mean your replies are long and rambling.

Youve got the other LLM stuck on Russia now. Good luck getting it off the topic.

We started with you quoting scripture to support America unquestioningly supporting Israel whether or not its in the US national interest. Then when I quoted Jesus you said that scripture isn't trustworthy, only you are trustworthy.

I think thats where we left it.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Okay, then I'll make the point simple.

If America turns away from the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and instead courts other gods like Yahweh (Yahweh is not I Am, this is a false translation; Yahweh is a Canaanit storm god, like Baal) or Allah, if America abandons conservative Christian values and turns blue, the Bible has a pretty clear path for what happens to America.

No, not Revelation. Not only is that overdramatic, but it's totally wrong.

Try Daniel.

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28All this happened to King Nebuchadnezzar. 29Twelve months later, as he was walking on the roof of the royal palace of Babylon, 30the king exclaimed, “Is this not Babylon the Great, which I myself have built as a royal residence by the might of my power and for the glory of my majesty?”

31While the words were still in the king’s mouth, a voice came from heaven: “It is decreed to you, King Nebuchadnezzar, that the kingdom has departed from you. 32You will be driven away from mankind to live with the beasts of the field, and you will feed on grass like an ox. And seven times will pass you by, until you acknowledge that the Most High rules over the kingdom of mankind and gives it to whom He wishes.”

33At that moment the sentence against Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled. He was driven away from mankind. He ate grass like an ox, and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven, until his hair grew like the feathers of an eagle and his nails like the claws of a bird.
This was Biden. Turned into a grass-eating idiot by the Lord.

And this would have been Kamala Harris, had she succeeded in being elected.
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13So Daniel was brought before the king, who asked him, “Are you Daniel, one of the exiles my father the king brought from Judah? 14I have heard that the spirit of the gods is in you, and that you have insight, intelligence, and extraordinary wisdom.

15Now the wise men and enchanters were brought before me to read this inscription and interpret it for me, but they could not give its interpretation. 16But I have heard about you, that you are able to give interpretations and solve difficult problems. Therefore, if you can read this inscription and give me its interpretation, you will be clothed in purple and have a gold chain placed around your neck, and you will be made the third highest ruler in the kingdom.”

17In response, Daniel said to the king, “You may keep your gifts for yourself and give your rewards to someone else. Nevertheless, I will read the inscription for the king and interpret it for him. 18As for you, O king, the Most High God gave your father Nebuchadnezzar sovereignty and greatness, glory and honor. 19Because of the greatness that He bestowed on him, the people of every nation and language trembled in fear before him. He killed whom he wished and kept alive whom he wished; he exalted whom he wished and humbled whom he wished.

20But when his heart became arrogant and his spirit was hardened with pride, he was deposed from his royal throne, and his glory was taken from him. 21He was driven away from mankind, and his mind was like that of a beast. He lived with the wild donkeys and ate grass like an ox, and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven until he acknowledged that the Most High God rules over the kingdom of mankind, setting over it whom He wishes.

22But you his son, O Belshazzar, have not humbled your heart, even though you knew all this. 23Instead, you have exalted yourself against the Lord of heaven. The vessels from His house were brought to you, and as you drank wine from them with your nobles, wives, and concubines, you praised your gods of silver and gold, bronze and iron, wood and stone, which cannot see or hear or understand. But you have failed to glorify the God who holds in His hand your very breath and all your ways. 24Therefore He sent the hand that wrote the inscription.

25Now this is the inscription that was written:

מנע, מנע, תקל, פרסין


26And this is the interpretation of the message:

MENE means that God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end.

27TEKEL means that you have been weighed on the scales and found deficient.

28PERES means that your kingdom has been divided and given over to the Medes and Persians.”

29Then Belshazzar gave the command, and they clothed Daniel in purple, placed a gold chain around his neck, and proclaimed him the third highest ruler in the kingdom.

30That very night Belshazzar king of the Chaldeans was slain, 31and Darius the Mede received the kingdom at the age of sixty-two.

Democrats are always talking about "turning this state blue" or but leftist policies never work, except at destroying cities and leading to the downfall of countries. Opposing Israel always ends badly. When Israel opposed themselves, they were overthrown and exiled to Babylon. And Babylon itself was ruined when they tried to party all day and did not keep borders (and used the Jewish sacrificial vessels for drunken display). Its borders were invaded and it was overthrown. Darius is a hero because he honored Israel and allowed their return.

Trump wants to honor Israel, and restore law and order. "He's too extreme, I'm voting blue." And when I predict that NYC will burn to the ground, you will be surprised. But this is what Deuteronomy says happens.   
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And if a city turns away from God, they are to put it to the sword, and burn the entire place (taking no plunder from it) so that the fire will be like a burnt offering.  And it will remain a ruin forever.
Nowadays, since people don't do this, God arranges it to happen. The thugs invited to the city do it themselves.  Like happened in Los Angeles, just a bit.

How convenient!

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Okay, then I'll make the point simple.

If America turns away from the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and instead courts other gods like (snipped heresy) or Allah, if America abandons conservative Christian values and turns blue, the Bible has a pretty clear path for what happens to America.

Right. I dont disagree. It's happening right now but that has nothing to do with America unconditionally supporting Israel.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Lorddave

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You clearly didn't read what I said.

I said it's actually BETTER than what Tucker Carlson said. If Trump overestimates everything, this was an underestimation.

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($159) per month

A month being 4 to 5 weeks. You could not only support 4 people for a week, but one person for a month.
And I'm saying it's not.  Yeah, you could survive.  Single room apartment.  Barely any food.  Living far away from others.  Etc...

But then you definitely aren't making the median income.

https://databankfiles.worldbank.org/public/ddpext_download/poverty/987B9C90-CB9F-4D93-AE8C-750588BF00QA/current/Global_POVEQ_RUS.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjfyKH1t9qQAxVTT1UIHYH_Hs8QFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0vOpDsSn_34FsNLx58Wp3X

National poverty line for Russia is 61.1 ruples per day per Capita.

Or 1,883 per month.
Which is a far cry from the minimum cost of living.  Me thinks the data is off or things changed alot in a few years.
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I love how the dumbass argues that Russia is better off than he was, citing his dreadful wages and food stamp, then goes on about his Christian country, which by his own admission doesn’t look after the poor like Jesus did!

Americans, eh? Indoctrinated from birth, no sense of irony.
Life is meaningless and everything dies.

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Actually, we do.

I personally volunteer for food pantry, wherein I deliver food to houses that distribute it to their neighborhood from Food Lion's FeedMore cooperative. We are so charitable as country that while many Americans struggle with not having much income, usually having enough to eat is not the problem. Rising food prices? Nah, not from my experience, unless you goto Publix where bread is $6. I kid you not, Food Lion and Trade Joes (and Aldi) have bread in about the reasonable $3.50 range for whole wheat if not less, and Publix has a loaf of not even that good bread for $6.50, wtf?

In fact, our country is so concerned about supporting the poor that taxes for those on threshold often create new homelessness. It is legit impossible to afford rent in America so many people just give up. We have a poverty crisis in America, despite being enormous overseas givers. In fact, I and other conservatives have figured out that shuffling money around with taxes doesn't work for helping poverty.

Now another thing. Europeans appear to have an externalized shame culture. As in, "look at how bad you are, not doing your part to save the world (like us)."

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In 2024, Americans donated approximately $592.50 billion to charity, reflecting a 6.3% increase from the previous year. The majority of this giving came from individuals, who contributed about $392.45 billion, making up two-thirds of total donations.

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Europeans donate an average of 0.64% of their income to charitable causes, which is lower than the averages in Africa and Asia. This places Europe near the bottom of global generosity rankings.

Yeah, uhhh. Maybe come back when you have something to fucking boast about. I usually have $200 to $400 a year, most of which is from watching the house, Christmas gifts and such, not from writing hobby (because I have nothing suitably called a job) which maybe get $30 on a lucky year. I have $1100 to my name. And even I donate when I can to Heifer. What exactly have you done, Ms 0.64%?

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Whoosh!

Safe from pain and truth and choice and other poison devils
See they don't give a fuck about you
Like I do
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Life is meaningless and everything dies.

Every man makes a god of his own desire

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Actually, we do.

I personally volunteer for food pantry, wherein I deliver food to houses that distribute it to their neighborhood from Food Lion's FeedMore cooperative. We are so charitable as country that while many Americans struggle with not having much income, usually having enough to eat is not the problem. Rising food prices? Nah, not from my experience, unless you goto Publix where bread is $6. I kid you not, Food Lion and Trade Joes (and Aldi) have bread in about the reasonable $3.50 range for whole wheat if not less, and Publix has a loaf of not even that good bread for $6.50, wtf?

In fact, our country is so concerned about supporting the poor that taxes for those on threshold often create new homelessness. It is legit impossible to afford rent in America so many people just give up. We have a poverty crisis in America, despite being enormous overseas givers. In fact, I and other conservatives have figured out that shuffling money around with taxes doesn't work for helping poverty.

Now another thing. Europeans appear to have an externalized shame culture. As in, "look at how bad you are, not doing your part to save the world (like us)."

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In 2024, Americans donated approximately $592.50 billion to charity, reflecting a 6.3% increase from the previous year. The majority of this giving came from individuals, who contributed about $392.45 billion, making up two-thirds of total donations.

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Europeans donate an average of 0.64% of their income to charitable causes, which is lower than the averages in Africa and Asia. This places Europe near the bottom of global generosity rankings.

Yeah, uhhh. Maybe come back when you have something to fucking boast about. I usually have $200 to $400 a year, most of which is from watching the house, Christmas gifts and such, not from writing hobby (because I have nothing suitably called a job) which maybe get $30 on a lucky year. I have $1100 to my name. And even I donate when I can to Heifer. What exactly have you done, Ms 0.64%?

Well.
1. When your country provides you with food and medical aid, the need for charity donations to keep people alive tends to stop being needed.  That's what we pay taxes for.
2. You're literally a welfare leech trying to tell everyone how great working is.  Maybe get a job and get off welfare?
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I love how the dumbass argues that Russia is better off than he was, citing his dreadful wages and food stamp, then goes on about his Christian country, which by his own admission doesn’t look after the poor like Jesus did!

Americans, eh? Indoctrinated from birth, no sense of irony.

This thread is about America and Israel's relationship, start your own thread about Russia and talk to your bots in it.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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I'm giving you an applaud for that.

I am really damned tired of sidetracks.

My ADHD makes it very hard not to respond to them.

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1. When your country provides you with food and medical aid, the need for charity donations to keep people alive tends to stop being needed.  That's what we pay taxes for.
2. You're literally a welfare leech trying to tell everyone how great working is.  Maybe get a job and get off welfare?
See? I gotta.
1. Maxine Waters once had this exchange:
https://greatmountainpublishing.com/2022/04/05/judas-would-be-a-democrat/
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That’s right. President Biden and the Democrats launched a war on American energy independence in order to jack up gas prices higher than costly perfume made of pure nard.

It’s so bad that the Easter Bunny has to hitchhike this year. Children all across America — especially in poor neighborhoods — will be lucky if the Easter Bunny isn’t mugged or murdered on his way to hiding Easter eggs since Democrats also defunded the police in their neighborhoods.

Because, you know, they care about the poor. Just like Judas.

Most recently they came up with a twist on their scam. Every great scam has a good twist.

Gas cards. The idea is that since they hiked the price of gas so high (and again blamed the Russians) they will now take your money, put it on a gas card and then give it back to you.

Again, you know, because they love the poor.

Why, you ask, go to all that trouble? Why don’t we just keep our money and go buy our own gas cards?

Well, that’s not how Judas gets paid, now is it? He only gets paid if your earnings get liquidated and sent to the federal purse for Democrats to give back to you. After, of course, they have pocketed their cut.
"Russia."

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Out in Los Angeles, however, the poor are wising up to all the Democrats’ Judas schemes.

Ms. Waters, California Democrat, has been in Washington helping the poor for over 30 years. She is one of the most powerful members of Congress as chair of the House Financial Services Committee. Every banker in America has kissed her ring.

Yet back home, her constituents are still homeless. Last week they gathered in search of “housing vouchers” Ms. Waters’ government had promised them.

The crowd swelled. They got impatient.

Another false promise. The crowd got rowdy. They were desperate.

“I want everybody to go home!” Ms. Waters shouted when her lie was revealed.

“We don’t got no home,” one of her homeless constituents reminded her. “That’s why we’re here. What home we gonna go to?”

“Nothing is going to happen here today,” said Ms. Waters, after 30 years of helping the poor in Washington. “Nothing is going to happen anymore today.”

One of her constituents complained, which sparked a Judas-like rage in Ms. Waters. “Excuse me!” she shouted. “There’s nobody in Washington who works for their people any f——— harder than I do! I don’t want to hear this! No, no, no!”

“That’s what I do every day,” Ms. Waters added triumphantly.

“What you do every day?” asked one of her desperate constituents. “I still live on the damn streets!”
Yes, yes.  America, the country that loves the poor from other countries and gives literal billions compared with Europe, manages to actually help the poor through churches/supermarkets working together. Yup, church actually collects money to try to help with food banks and soup kitchens.
The state on the other hand acts like a landlord who raises rent if he fixes a faucet. They give a cent to one person, taxes go up two cents per person.
2. I'm not on welfare. I'm a basement dweller. When my parents die, I will probably die not long after, as I have no interest in living alone for the next thirty to fifty years. Unless something changes in my life, that's likely 7 to 10 years. I care about my parents, but I'm also not financially capable of supporting them. I would have to work 40+ hours a week to do so, but there's a twist in the "working hard is responsible" paradigm.  Years ago, I was working as a janitor (I've had all kinds of jobs) and my boss was having me work while my dad was in the hospital for overexertion. I thought maybe it was a heart attack, and it fucking killed me that I wasn't able to watch after him. Never again. I never wanted to be so busy that someone died while I wasn't paying attention.  Then a cat of ours died while sleeping next to me, while I was watching TV. She was napping and I wanted to let her rest, but when I turned back she was gone and a stiff cat corpse was there instead.
3. What was it, you live in Norway, Dave? Where you make more there than I make in ten years in US? Yeah, come back when you're trying to be independent and work hard, and it just winds up like a hamster wheel with no progress. Because that is what our leftists have created. I actually have more reported in income on tax forms than I actually make by about $3000. The US government never cares if you overpay (Dad did it so at some point I could collect social security, because I'm a fucking loser forced into early retirement by COVID making self-employment impossible, cuz I couldn't advertise offline, and never really got the hang of social media advertisement), they just care if you didn't pay enough for their schemes. The last non-self-employed job that I had, Obama wanted to make me buy insurance... which got jacked up to $450 a month. I was making $300 a two-week cycle. I had to go off insurance entirely, because when you force everyone to have something, demand exceeds supply and prices dive up. I have no girlfriend, no job, no insurance, no prospects, and right now most of the people I've thought over the years are my friends, I kinda wonder if they voted for the dicks who are in office in Virginia, who support things I oppose like acting against Israel.

See? Eventually I did get back to topic.
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acting against Israel.

Do you think anything less than 30 billion dollars in aid for their war is "acting against Israel"?

This is what makes people anti-semitic, when they bring up how much money the US taxpayer has generously given to Israel and people accuse you of acting against Israel. 30 billion dollars is a lot of money to give to another country to essentially aid their ethnic cleansing campaign.

When people say "maybe 30 billion dollars was a little bit too much, maybe we should invest in our own healthcare system instead" they are accused of "acting against Israel" at the least, and wanting to "snuff out the jews" at the worst.

It makes people anti-semitic when they suggest that maybe 10 billion for Israel's war would have been more than enough, and they get accused of wanting to holocaust the Jews.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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I don't think it's about money.

I don't contribute cash to Israel. But I support its right to existence, more than can be said of those who think US has a toxic relationship with it.

The donation part was about Eurotrash Jura trying to shame US for being greedy when her own country likely contributes less than Jennifer Garner. She at least works to get others to donate, despite her donations barely scraping her net worth.

US has a toxic relationship with Ukraine. Stop coddling it. They effectively embezzled money supposed to defend them, and nothing to show for it.
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As usual you missed the point and went on about something else.

At no point did I say you were greedy, although your top people (as ours) are.
The point was that a supposed rich Christian nation doesn’t treat its citizens as the Jesus guy demands.

The US’s ties to Israel seems to be tied to fundamentalist beliefs that the end times starts in Jerusalem, and something about a cow, which just goes to show you believing in myths is a bit bonkers.
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I don't think it's about money.

So Israel didnt need the US to give them 30 billion dollars?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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The US gave them $30 billion dollars to deal with an active threat against their existence. This is because Muslims hate Jews for no good reason.

Let's contrast this with $134 billion in aid to Ukraine, which the US themselves caused by Kamala Harris's boneheaded remark about Ukraine being part of NATO.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220315153521/https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1503756163338412032
She later claimed it was an unprovoked attack.

The Jews cannot end war with Iran or Palestine. They stop fighting, they stop existing. Ukraine seems at surface to be the same, but actually all someone has to say at the negotiating table is, "Ukraine gets to exist as a buffer state, Zelensky is a tyrant and will be removed." Zelensky has actually overstayed his term, and is using war to remain in power. Whereas the Jews fully deserve $30 billion to defend their country. They are attacked by at least two countries and about four Palestinian groups: Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.
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The Jews cannot end war with Iran or Palestine. They stop fighting, they stop existing.
Sure they can end the war.  All they have to do is figure out a way to peacefully coexist.  Giving Palestine the right to exist seems like a good place to start, but Israel just can’t seem to get there.
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If Hamas was an enemy of Israel, why did Netanyahu facilitate millions of Qatari cash to enter Gaza through its crossings to go to them?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
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The US gave them $30 billion dollars to deal with an active threat against their existence. This is because Muslims hate Jews for no good reason.

Let's contrast this with $134 billion in aid to Ukraine, which the US themselves caused by Kamala Harris's boneheaded remark about Ukraine being part of NATO.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220315153521/https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1503756163338412032
She later claimed it was an unprovoked attack.

The Jews cannot end war with Iran or Palestine. They stop fighting, they stop existing. Ukraine seems at surface to be the same, but actually all someone has to say at the negotiating table is, "Ukraine gets to exist as a buffer state, Zelensky is a tyrant and will be removed." Zelensky has actually overstayed his term, and is using war to remain in power. Whereas the Jews fully deserve $30 billion to defend their country. They are attacked by at least two countries and about four Palestinian groups: Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.

Were Muslims hating Jews prior to 1945?
No.

So maybe, just maybe, the reason is the big ass country that got put in the middle of muslim land?
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The donation part was about Eurotrash Jura trying to shame US for being greedy


Just on this as it made me laugh.
I’ll take my Eurotrash status, one holiday this year in Bude Cornwall,


Another in the south of France.



Another coming up at the end of the year on an Island in the Bristol channel, all with full pay.

Universal health care, workers’ rights etcetera, rather than your dire situation.
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You've heard of poor white trash? It characterizes whites who are poor, and have terrible morality.  Like the guy with the chain link fence, who beats his dog and his wife, and the family spends welfare to buy dirtbikes.

You are Eurotrash, but not because you are poor. You are rich (white, I assume?) trash. You accuse others of greed, while you take nice vacations in Cornwall and France, and donate very little to help others. 

Most of our vacations? Well, my parents occasionally go to the Bahamas or Hawaii. But typically it's a drive (not a plane trip) to New Jersey or Florida.  The former of which we can only afford because my great grandfather built a pretty ghetto cottage during the Great Depression. My dad donates to several charities, I donate occasionally to about one charity. I have virtually no income, yet I still donate from what I am given.

That's a pretty snazzy castle.

"Universal health care, workers’ rights etcetera, rather than your dire situation."
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

Back to Israel, and away from your ill-gotten privilege.

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Sure they can end the war.  All they have to do is figure out a way to peacefully coexist.  Giving Palestine the right to exist seems like a good place to start, but Israel just can’t seem to get there.

This is a map of Israel.


This is a map of Palestine.


See if you notice anything missing on the second map.

If Palestine were to lay down their arms tomorrow, they would be two states, as now. If Israel were to lay down its arms, there would rather quickly be no Jews and no Israel.

Not only does Israel deserve the country it has been given, but it also should have Sinai, so the actual pious can do religious tourism.

The Muslims who claim to be Palestinian can go elsewhere, or they can stay in the West Bank and Gaza. But they have actually turned these areas into shitholes. Note the travel advisory. Want to see where Jesus was born? "Reconsider your need to travel."


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Were Muslims hating Jews prior to 1945?
No.

So maybe, just maybe, the reason is the big ass country that got put in the middle of muslim land?

Big as country? Get some damned perspective!



The only smaller countries in the Middle East area are Kuwait, Qatar, and Lebanon. Even the UAE looks bigger.

And for your information, Muslims have hated Jews since the foundation of Islam. 
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/references-to-jews-in-the-koran
If Jews did everything they could to be friendly, the Muslims would still seek to kill them and take their land.

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Europe doesn’t try to legislate the poor into prosperity, it makes sure nobody falls through the cracks or ends up losing their house because of illness (see the US), a supposedly Christian thing to do, not that the Bapto’-fascist you quoted, would recognize true Christianity.

Not that it’s any of your business, but I have standing orders with 5 charities, some I started in the 1980’s.
And my “privilege” was earned, paid holiday, shows we do not treat our workforce as slaves, something the guy you quoted was apparently in favour of.

"I believe slavery is a much maligned institution; if we had slavery today, we would not have this welfare mess."
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Nobody falls through the cracks?
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Nobody I know, there are problems in any system and it is underfunded as of old, if you need a new knee the wait can be a while but on the whole if you have a pressing need you are seen to.

Just before covid (winter 2019) my mother started to bleed, we took her to the doctors who gave us a letter for the hospital, after an hour we were seen, and they booked her in for tests the next day.
Ultra sound, bloods, and an X-ray,  two days later they informed us she had cancer of the cervix.

My mother was 89, her memory was failing, she had only ever worked part time as a cleaner and my dad was dead, she had diabetes and was blind in one eye (macular degeneration) both of which she was on medication for, within the month they had removed the cancer and given her ultrasound therapy as they didn't think chemo' was appropriate because of the above and she has been clear since.
Despite her failing memory and age, she still sees the eye doctor once a month for injections to slow the macular degeneration, all this costs is the parking fee at the hospital about Ł4 per visit.
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The point being here is that the intention of universal health care in Europe is to make sure everybody is covered, that nobody should be excluded because of circumstances, I imagine there are those that do fall through, we have people on the streets, people who live alone, but nobody is excluded, everyone can just walk in.

The US, as far as I can see from listening to Americans, is one of a profit led system with variable coverage, exemptions of preexisting conditions, co-pay and insurance companies who will do their damndest to weasel out of paying if they can. The medicare part doesn’t seem to cover low paid struggling families and is seen as an imposition by those that must pay.

The whole ethos is different, not so long back my wife, who has a pre-existing heart problem started getting pains in her arm, the doctor fearing the worse sent us to the hospital, we were there most of the day, again bloods, ECG, a cannula fitted just in case, until finally she was given the all clear.

While we were there, I was befriended by a guy clearly on his uppers, a mishmash of ill-fitting dirty clothing, smelling like a skip in summer, with a head wound, disoriented.

Everybody in that waiting room as we went through the day were very happy that he had latched on to me, when he was called in for the various checks there was the smiles and nods that pass for social interaction amongst the British conveying this, but also no one showed any hostility or resentment that they had to share the same space as this man, he needed help, the staff checked him every half hour, asking him the same questions shining lights in his eyes, cleaned his wound, but kept him there presumably as they suspected concussion.

I would imagine that you and yours would have been the same, but your system, not so much, I think I saw somewhere that 60% of gofundme or whatever it’s called in the US is for medical expense, that’s not a thing here.
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The only thing that I respect about Europe is its consumer protection.

I buy a computer that's a lime, I'm not on the hook for it, I can get a free computer or something, apparently.

Meanwhile in America,

Some people are supposed to fall through cracks. Economy is about winners and losers. Namby pamby coddling of the losers is how America winds up routinely spending about...
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The U.S. government spends an average of about $35,578 per year for each person experiencing chronic homelessness, primarily on crisis services like jails and hospitals. Overall, it is estimated that ending homelessness in the U.S. would require an investment of around $20 billion.
$20 billion would be divided by 300 million US citizens.

But there are only 153.8 million taxpayers, so the rest of regular American population pays the brunt for those on welfare. Roughly $130.039 that a family of four could add to staying housed instead given because "no child left behind."

Why did I quote that? Because No Child Left Behind (the education policy) has essentially failed. As has massive donations to homelessness.
https://policypoliticalreview.com/2024/10/29/the-children-got-left-behind/

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The US, as far as I can see from listening to Americans, is one of a profit led system with variable coverage, exemptions of preexisting conditions, co-pay and insurance companies who will do their damndest to weasel out of paying if they can. The medicare part doesn’t seem to cover low paid struggling families and is seen as an imposition by those that must pay.

This is why outsider leftists shouldn't be making editorials about America.  They often understand next to nothing about the policies already in place, and how they significantly fuck over the average person.

"Oh no, the US doesn't have single payer government insurance!" What it does have is a medical system that routinely helps out illegal aliens who have no insurance at all on the state's dime, and occasional good Samaritan types that just waive the cost or use sliding scale.  It also offers choices in insurance, and those choices, when allowed (fucking thanks, Obama for four years of screwing with insurance), allow prices to compete. Competing prices means cost of insurance is driven down.

Mandatory insurance itself is a bad idea. Supply and demand means that insurance needs not everyone buying it so the supply is less than demand (lower cost), and people off insurance only go when they really need it. Insurance actually inflates the cost of medicine by not allowing sticker shock to persuade some people to stay home and self-treat. In America, it is possible for someone like me to simply say, "I'm not going to the doctor, nor paying insurance." And that will be that. I have to be aware of my health, and not engage in risky behavior like driving drunk or overtired.


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