The end of Woke

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2025, 11:27:27 AM »
I'm too old for the revolution  >:(
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2025, 11:29:36 AM »
I'm too old for the revolution  >:(

Fkn ell, we hate to hear that.

Are you young enough to sit in front of Cossacks' hooves?

Or maybe just watch TV and say once was enough.

« Last Edit: September 16, 2025, 11:43:05 AM by Torve »

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2025, 11:52:36 AM »
I ain't sitting in front of a horse.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #63 on: September 16, 2025, 12:00:31 PM »
I ain't sitting in front of a horse.

TV it is then.

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2025, 02:35:25 PM »
I don't think expecting people in a position of power (elected, or famous, or whatever) to try to be a voice of reason and calm is an unreasonable length that leads to war.
It seems that expecting people in positions of power to be a voice of reason has become an unreasonable expectation.
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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2025, 03:29:58 PM »
I don't think expecting people in a position of power (elected, or famous, or whatever) to try to be a voice of reason and calm is an unreasonable length that leads to war.
It seems that expecting people in positions of power to be a voice of reason has become an unreasonable expectation.

Which one was more reasonable:

N. Chamberlain the peacemaker

W. Churchill the warmonger

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #66 on: September 16, 2025, 04:13:28 PM »
Apple vs orange.

Chamberlain was trying to keep a war from starting.

Churchill was trying to survive a war that had already started.

Each could be considered reasonable or unreasonable depending on your point of view.

It's reasonable to want to avoid war, but it's also reasonable to want to win a war that you're in.
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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #67 on: September 16, 2025, 04:55:59 PM »
Apple vs orange.

Chamberlain was trying to keep a war from starting.

Churchill was trying to survive a war that had already started.

Each could be considered reasonable or unreasonable depending on your point of view.

It's reasonable to want to avoid war, but it's also reasonable to want to win a war that you're in.

I should have provided background.

Before Munich, before that filthy piece of TP, before Dunkirk, NC and WC were bitterly at odds, ca 1936. NC wanted to spend the money on social programs, WC wanted to start churning out tanks and planes immediately. NC won out and that is why when Munich came around Britain didn't have the muscle to back up its position and NC was forced to sacrifice Czecho to buy back the time he had squandered.

The contrast could hardly be more stark. A man of peace and a man of war.

How frustrating must it have been to be WC. He was in a position to urge forceful action in 1914 which could well have averted a world war, but was ignored, and the same story repeated 1936ish. Perhaps the most frustrated man in history. Worthy of a Hollywood franchise.

"Scorcher 3": They ignored him once.... They ignored him twice.... (WC throws a lit cigar behind him, walking towards the camera; No 10 goes up in flames) ... They didn't know they would be burned three times.... Now they want him back.... The Queen wants him back.... (Cut to WC: "We will fight those bit**es, we will never be ignored!" (applause)

All clear now?

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #68 on: September 16, 2025, 11:56:46 PM »
I'm too old for the revolution  >:(

You're never too old to dance.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #69 on: September 17, 2025, 08:07:30 AM »
I'm too old for the revolution  >:(
don't worry... u are powerful... the most active (and quite an awesome) forum user I have known, a higher post count than even F.C. (initials of a username from another forum... on a completely different topic).

Revolution can begin in the forums... it is already beginning. When you told me that some replies I made were spammy, that taught me to post with care. This may have lead to others posting better, etc... and the forum gaining more genuine activity.

Together, this forum is strong.
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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #70 on: September 17, 2025, 11:16:17 AM »

There is one question: If it is accepted that woke is a destructive force that needs to be rooted out, how far should we go in doing so?

Should we use the tools of woke against them, such as job loss, shunning etc?

No. Before there was woke, there were Puritans, the same joyless fun-sucking assholes who bothered Thomas Morton over his having a maypole. Puritans are why there is a 1st Amendment allowing free speech and free press and free practice of religion, to keep assholes like them from getting their way.

https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/maypole-infuriated-puritans/

So should people be punished for what they say on social media? The news media thinks there are limits to free speech for private companies, whereas public workers are protected. That's nonsense. Private citizens have the right to private free speech in the spheres of their private lives.

Let's use Facebook as an example. A man named Caleb Sawyer has a Facebook page under Caleb B Sawyer, and works for Hardwood Lumber, which also has a Facebook page.
Caleb is a lumberjack (and that's okay!) and a femboy in his private life. Increasingly he spouts off woke nonsense on his Facebook page. Hardwood Lumber is not woke, but tolerates him.

  • Free speech should not be protected if he is on his Facebook page during company hours. In this case, he should be warned that he is goofing off during company time. The same is true of cellphone use. However, the content of these posts is not Hardwood Lumber 's business, only that he is doing this on company time.
  • Free speech is definitely not allowed on the Hardwood Lumber page.  Caleb is seen to be speaking for the company, and should sternly warned not to use their page as a podium. If he continues, firing is the natural consequence of this. The following webcomic is a good measure of free speech. https://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/pizza-02 Whether an employee or a customer, doing this kinda thing has consequences.
  • Caleb has free speech in his own off-time, on his own personal page. In fact, if Hardwood Lumber fires him for what is on his own page, this should be wrongful termination. Personal pages are akin to the inside of a person's house.  I think you'd be hard pressed to accept the idea of a company snooping on what a person does within their own house.

You can't end woke until people stop trying to be woke.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2025, 11:18:37 AM by bulmabriefs144 »
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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #71 on: September 17, 2025, 02:08:17 PM »

There is one question: If it is accepted that woke is a destructive force that needs to be rooted out, how far should we go in doing so?

Should we use the tools of woke against them, such as job loss, shunning etc?

No.

Too late.

This is not the question anymore.

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #72 on: September 17, 2025, 02:55:50 PM »
I'm too old for the revolution  >:(

You're never too old to dance.
After the revolution, you'll be...
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #73 on: September 17, 2025, 03:01:43 PM »

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #74 on: September 17, 2025, 05:01:48 PM »
Together, this forum is strong.

Viva la TFES!


Individually we are weak like a single twig, but as a bundle we form a mighty faggot.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2025, 05:04:01 PM by disputeone »
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #75 on: September 17, 2025, 05:33:40 PM »
WE are a bundle of sticks.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Torve

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #76 on: September 17, 2025, 05:38:32 PM »
WE are a bundle of sticks.

I'm not paying for that.

The text was supposed to be:

"We ARE a bundle of sticks."

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #77 on: September 18, 2025, 05:08:33 AM »
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bulmabriefs144

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #78 on: September 18, 2025, 06:37:40 AM »
I like how the Simpsons pops up that definition.
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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2025, 06:44:00 AM »
Not only.


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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #80 on: September 18, 2025, 06:45:18 AM »
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Torve

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #81 on: September 18, 2025, 07:18:58 PM »

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #82 on: September 18, 2025, 07:57:30 PM »

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #83 on: September 18, 2025, 11:02:52 PM »
WE are a bundle of sticks.

Argh!  Fascist!

Seriously, find another analogy.

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #84 on: September 19, 2025, 04:00:29 AM »
WE are a bundle of sticks.

Argh!  Fascist!

Ha!  Good one.  A fasci of sticks indeed.
"I'm not entirely sure who this guy is, but JimmyTheLobster is clearly a genius.  Probably one of the smartest arthropods  of his generation." - JimmyTheCrab

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #85 on: September 19, 2025, 09:00:31 AM »
I always knew it about Martin.  Just the sort to have a bedroom full of memorabilia, models of U boats and Stuka dive bombers.


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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #86 on: September 20, 2025, 03:11:28 PM »

Prepare for war and get peace.

Embrace peace and get war.

We're seeing an example of this dynamic in real time now. Putin is provoking the EU/NATO with drone and warplane flights into their airspace. So far the western leadership has been unwilling to match these provocations with forceful action. If their worry about starting a war is preventing them from acting, they will indeed have a war on their hands in a not too distant future.

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Re: The end of Woke
« Reply #87 on: September 21, 2025, 09:19:41 AM »

Prepare for war and get peace.

Embrace peace and get war.

We're seeing an example of this dynamic in real time now. Putin is provoking the EU/NATO with drone and warplane flights into their airspace. So far the western leadership has been unwilling to match these provocations with forceful action. If their worry about starting a war is preventing them from acting, they will indeed have a war on their hands in a not too distant future.
sadly... it looks like the escalations that occured before ww2, with Germany invading Poland... tho not as forceful yet... I fear within days or weeks it could escalate into tit for tat.. tho hope not.
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