Are you feeling safer?

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #1020 on: June 14, 2026, 11:48:23 AM »
https://www.politico.eu/article/ministers-to-ban-under-16s-from-social-media-livestreaming-disappearing-messages/

People on twitter are saying there will be a digital curfew for 16 and under, but I can't find an article about it. Apparently all the big social media sites will be banned at night, except for Bluesky. Even the article I linked is all "on condition of anonymity" so idk what is real.

Except for bluesky?  Because it’s the good one?  Not sure I buy that from unconfirmed rumours.  I might be biased, but I just don’t think that’s their style.  We’ll see.

PS. I wrote a big fucking essay in reply your last post, and accidentally deleted it.  I might get round to it again.  Maybe even a more concise, less ranty version.

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« Reply #1021 on: June 14, 2026, 12:17:30 PM »
Well, you don't have to contact The Repair Shop for me if it makes you angry! (I am not joking about The Repair Shop, it is the best show ever)

Maybe you will be less ranty about the black American thing if I can make myself more clear. Racist people in the US have suggested that black people should "go back to Africa" for longer than I have been alive. You are suggesting this will become part of the mainstream discourse in the US, but I don't agree. Maybe I don't understand who you mean by mainstream?  There is talk in the mainstream about rejecting critical race theory, because it is racist!
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« Reply #1022 on: June 14, 2026, 04:15:33 PM »
Racist people in the US have suggested that black people should "go back to Africa" for longer than I have been alive.
And of course they usually say as if the black people had a choice of whether or not they wanted to come to America in the first place.
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« Reply #1023 on: June 14, 2026, 04:26:33 PM »
Well, they is racist retarts!
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« Reply #1024 on: June 14, 2026, 05:35:54 PM »
Racist people in the US have suggested that black people should "go back to Africa" for longer than I have been alive.
And of course they usually say as if the black people had a choice of whether or not they wanted to come to America in the first place.

Whyvshould black peoole go back to africa?

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« Reply #1025 on: June 14, 2026, 05:46:36 PM »
You will need to ask the racists who say that.
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« Reply #1026 on: June 15, 2026, 01:01:25 AM »

Maybe you will be less ranty about the black American thing if I can make myself more clear. Racist people in the US have suggested that black people should "go back to Africa" for longer than I have been alive. You are suggesting this will become part of the mainstream discourse in the US, but I don't agree. Maybe I don't understand who you mean by mainstream?  There is talk in the mainstream about rejecting critical race theory, because it is racist!

Because I’m not suggesting that.  I’m talking about when people say a particular group of people is the problem.  When they get blamed for the things that are wrong with the country.  As we are increasingly seeing about immigrants, Muslims, and other minorities in the UK and elsewhere.

Not very long ago in the US it would have been perfectly normal to tell your white daughter to stay away from those dangerous colored folk.  Before the civil rights movement, many places had racial segregation laws.  Even when I was at school in the UK, causal (and not so casual) racism was everywhere.  Jokes about  and pakis were common.

It wasn’t even very long before that that a country blaming all their problems on another religious group went very badly for them. 

Things did improve over the last few decades.  Attitudes gradually changed in the US and in Europe.  New laws brought in to guarantee people’s rights.  For racial minorities, and also for women, gay people, etc.

Then a little over a decade ago, we saw the emergence of the alt right (new right, radical right, whatever).  Mainly angry white dudes saying that all this wokiness has gone too far and that really it’s them being oppressed. Saying all the things that had become a bit taboo and normalising much of it again.  Arguably Gamergate was the first notable example hitting the mainstream (sort of mainstream).

Nothing is guaranteed forever.  Any progress we’ve had over the years can be undone if we let it happen. 

The US is currently not a shining example of “it couldn’t possibly happen here, we have checks and balances!”
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« Reply #1027 on: June 15, 2026, 03:26:49 AM »


You can't say the gamer word unless you're a gamer.

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I also love how white liberals talk about how bad racism used to be and how much better it is now. In case you dont have eyes and ears I can tell you that isnt that case, race relations are at a 60 year low.

Objectively.

Whatever we are doing it isn't working.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #1028 on: June 15, 2026, 03:52:35 AM »

I also love how white liberals talk about how bad racism used to be and how much better it is now. In case you dont have eyes and ears I can tell you that isnt that case, race relations are at a 60 year low.

Objectively.

You want to take us all through these objective measures?
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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #1029 on: June 15, 2026, 07:29:28 AM »

Maybe you will be less ranty about the black American thing if I can make myself more clear. Racist people in the US have suggested that black people should "go back to Africa" for longer than I have been alive. You are suggesting this will become part of the mainstream discourse in the US, but I don't agree. Maybe I don't understand who you mean by mainstream?  There is talk in the mainstream about rejecting critical race theory, because it is racist!

Because I’m not suggesting that.  I’m talking about when people say a particular group of people is the problem.  When they get blamed for the things that are wrong with the country.  As we are increasingly seeing about immigrants, Muslims, and other minorities in the UK and elsewhere.

Not very long ago in the US it would have been perfectly normal to tell your white daughter to stay away from those dangerous colored folk.  Before the civil rights movement, many places had racial segregation laws.  Even when I was at school in the UK, causal (and not so casual) racism was everywhere.  Jokes about niggers and pakis were common.

It wasn’t even very long before that that a country blaming all their problems on another religious group went very badly for them. 

Things did improve over the last few decades.  Attitudes gradually changed in the US and in Europe.  New laws brought in to guarantee people’s rights.  For racial minorities, and also for women, gay people, etc.

Then a little over a decade ago, we saw the emergence of the alt right (new right, radical right, whatever).  Mainly angry white dudes saying that all this wokiness has gone too far and that really it’s them being oppressed. Saying all the things that had become a bit taboo and normalising much of it again.  Arguably Gamergate was the first notable example hitting the mainstream (sort of mainstream).

Nothing is guaranteed forever.  Any progress we’ve had over the years can be undone if we let it happen. 

The US is currently not a shining example of “it couldn’t possibly happen here, we have checks and balances!”

Okay, maybe I misinterpreted this part of your post -

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The real point though is about collective blame.  It’s become acceptable to brand all Muslims as a threat.  Something that I don’t think has hit the mainstream discourse about black people in America yet. 

There was a time, probably the same time it was happening in the UK because even though the internet didn't exist our cultures still overlap (even if they're not exactly the same), when racism against black people was the norm. They were segregated, they were viewed as a threat, and viewed as having less worth than white people. I think both our countries have come a long way in rectifying that, but I agree there can be backwards steps, and flare ups of the old racism and racist language.

I don't believe that branding all black people as a threat will go mainstream, or at least not any more mainstream than it already is. A few months ago there were lots of memes and videos discussing "black fatigue", including from many black content creators. This was a reaction to some viral... I don't know what to call it, maybe misbehavior? Antisocial behavior? Criminal activity? Because it was both, sometimes just bad behavior, but sometimes crime like vandalism and shoplifting. I became aware of it after Carnival Cruise Line changed some of their rules to stop some bad behavior on certain cruises, like banning "clack fans", and loud speakers, and some other things I can't remember. There were videos of the bad behavior online, and that is when people started making "black fatigue" content. Now there are "teen takeovers" which I think something similar happens in the UK, where a bunch of mostly black teens takeover some place and smash and grab stuff from stores. There's a problem with law enforcement in some places that refuse to do anything about it, and you'll see it is worse in those places, but practically non existent in others.

I followed Gamergate. That was insane (but also fun to follow. lol)

I think one mistake you make is assuming everyone anti woke is far right. The term "wokeness" doesn't have an agreed upon definition, but imo it is a combination of critical theory and signalling your agreement with critical theories. I'll use upper middle class people as an example, they will promote things to signal they are part of the group, despite the consequences of whatever it is they're promoting having no effect on them personally and refusing to consider the bad effect it has on other people. Or they will say it is some form of "ist" to even discuss the bad effects.  So, there many people of varying political ideologies who oppose that kind of wokeness.

I should say "woke", is not the same as "stay woke" from the Black civil rights movement. It was co-opted by other people, but those (mostly white) people pretend it is racist to be "anti woke". They pretend to not understand that the word now encompasses something different. Most people, if they read it, will reject critical theories, which doesn't make them racist, but most people aren't going to read past the blurb to find out the details of the theories under the critical theory umbrella.

I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #1030 on: June 15, 2026, 07:48:22 AM »

I also love how white liberals talk about how bad racism used to be and how much better it is now. In case you dont have eyes and ears I can tell you that isnt that case, race relations are at a 60 year low.

Objectively.

You want to take us all through these objective measures?


And what measures are people, on bothssides, doing to rssolve these measures?

Spouting Replacemdnt theory rehetoric?
Hiring nazis for their head writing positions?
Purposefully possting propganda faux outrage with misleading and mistagged and misdated videos?


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« Reply #1031 on: June 15, 2026, 04:42:23 PM »
You guys are saying a lot but none of you can say that race relations arent at their lowest point in 60 years.

Objectively.

Perhaps what we are doing isnt working?
No, its the children who are wrong.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #1032 on: June 15, 2026, 04:52:43 PM »

I also love how white liberals talk about how bad racism used to be and how much better it is now. In case you dont have eyes and ears I can tell you that isnt that case, race relations are at a 60 year low.

Objectively.

You want to take us all through these objective measures?


And what measures are people, on bothssides, doing to rssolve these measures?

Well Unconvinced is saying the gamer word which is funny, if nothing else. Although I'm not sure if he's even a gamer.

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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #1033 on: June 16, 2026, 06:43:10 AM »
You guys are saying a lot but none of you can say that race relations arent at their lowest point in 60 years.

Objectively.

Perhaps what we are doing isnt working?
No, its the children who are wrong.

Because I don't believe that race relations are at their lowest point in 60 years. I will say that things might be going backwards, especially with activists focusing on skin color, race, ethnicity, as ways to divide us.
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« Reply #1034 on: June 16, 2026, 06:44:21 AM »
Also, stop quoting unconvinced using that word. You're only doing it because you think it's away of getting away with it.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #1035 on: June 16, 2026, 07:03:04 AM »

I don't believe that branding all black people as a threat will go mainstream, or at least not any more mainstream than it already is.

Branding Muslims as a threat has.  Maybe the same won’t happen for others, but you never know. 

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I should say "woke", is not the same as "stay woke" from the Black civil rights movement. It was co-opted by other people, but those (mostly white) people pretend it is racist to be "anti woke". They pretend to not understand that the word now encompasses something different. Most people, if they read it, will reject critical theories, which doesn't make them racist, but most people aren't going to read past the blurb to find out the details of the theories under the critical theory umbrella.

Funny thing is no one calls themselves woke in the UK.  No one ever says we should be more woke.  No one bangs on about critical race theory or gender studies, except perhaps a very few writing about their specialist fields in academia.

Woke is just some vague idea to blame stuff on without explaining what the actual issue with it is.  It’s a catch all for “stuff I don’t like”.   It’s everything from museums suggesting the Empire wasn’t all sunshine and rainbows to raging about a black Doctor Who, games trying to be all inclusive for women or your local pub putting up pride flags, and so on.  It mainly seems to be whinging about petty bullshit, but that doesn’t stop many politicians making a big deal of being “anti woke”.

Occasionally it gets lumped in with bigger supposed issues, like “DEI”, but that seems to be mainly an imported talking point as well.  In the UK, “positive discrimination” is explicitly not allowed under the equality act.  But naturally, we have all these arseholes promising to repeal the equality act because of all the alleged discrimination against white people.

That might be a pretty big clue that  they are really just full of shit.


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« Reply #1036 on: June 16, 2026, 07:06:29 AM »
Also, stop quoting unconvinced using that word. You're only doing it because you think it's away of getting away with it.

I’m sure he thinks he’s making a very clever point.

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« Reply #1037 on: June 16, 2026, 09:48:02 AM »
Also, stop quoting unconvinced using that word. You're only doing it because you think it's away of getting away with it.

I’m sure he thinks he’s making a very clever point.

What ia the gamerword?

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« Reply #1038 on: June 16, 2026, 11:32:55 AM »
Teabagging.  That’s a gamer word.

But he’s talking about the bad word.  Apparently I’m a massive racist* for using the bad word in the context that calling people the bad word is wrong.  This is the bad speech.

But it’s totally not racist to label all the people from those evil countries as a bunch of murderers and rapists who just want to murder and rape everyone.  It’s fine if that incites people to SET FIRE TO BUILDINGS WITH INNOCENTS IN THEM, because this is the glorious freedom of speech.  The good speech.  Not like the bad speech above.

Personally I think think all sounds like political correctness gone mad.  Or some kind of woke bullshit, but what do I know?

I guess we can all agree that words are important, while actions and intent don’t matter.  After all, guns don’t kill people, rappers do.  Summon the police, woo, woo, woo!



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« Reply #1039 on: June 16, 2026, 01:13:16 PM »
There's a lot of people who think you shouldn't say the word, even if you're having a discussion about racism and racist words. I don't think it is racist to use it in that context, but I still don't like to even do that, if that makes sense. I think it is because when I was a kid my mom said it was a "bad word" like a cuss word. She probably didn't want to explain to an 8yr old what it was really about. We were much more innocent about that sort of thing before the internet.

Have any of you read the Rape Gang Inquiry Report? I haven't, but people are saying it found that there were 250,000 victims since the 1950s, and 87% - 95% of the perpetrators were Muslim. Is the report reliable, like based on facts, or is it politics?  Also, I didn't know this was going on since the 1950s.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #1040 on: June 16, 2026, 01:18:42 PM »
teabaggging is a sex act

you dip your balls into the hole ofchoice

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« Reply #1041 on: June 16, 2026, 04:27:29 PM »
Its been a very long time since you've banned me for directly quoting what someone else has said.

Perhaps I miss it.
I used to enjoy watching people post the most offensive things possible then getting banned when I pressed ctrl C ctrl V and then pressed enter.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #1042 on: June 16, 2026, 05:10:41 PM »
Its been a very long time since you've banned me for directly quoting what someone else has said.

Perhaps I miss it.
I used to enjoy watching people post the most offensive things possible then getting banned when I pressed ctrl C ctrl V and then pressed enter.

Stop lying.

I get the feeling you need a break but don't have the mental strength to lay down for awhile. If you need me to help you out, you know what to do.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #1043 on: June 16, 2026, 05:11:49 PM »
Its been a very long time since you've banned me for directly quoting what someone else has said.

Perhaps I miss it.
I used to enjoy watching people post the most offensive things possible then getting banned when I pressed ctrl C ctrl V and then pressed enter.

Stop lying.

Shifters posts still exist, Mom.
Do you want me to cite them again?

I feel like if something is acceptable for someone to say then it's acceptable for everyone to say.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #1044 on: June 16, 2026, 05:14:45 PM »
The search function is a wonderful tool.

If only you simply quoted people what they said. Your problem was always taking a quote than rewriting it to your own liking.

I freely admit I changed the race involved, that's all I did the last three times. I copied and pasted your post exactly, then just changed the race you were talking about.

Ask the moderators to see the last three posts I was banned for. Use the search function and compare them with posts you have made.

Anyone can do that.

Why would you change the race? For what end?

To make a point about equality.

I've made that point now.

I promise I will no longer copy and paste your posts and change the race you are talking about.

Well stick to that and sounds good to me.

Well then, everything seems to be in order.

Also you forgot to remove the gamer word from your post where you quoted unconvinced. I think banning it entirely is fair.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #1045 on: June 16, 2026, 05:17:18 PM »
You just copied the word over and over in a post. You weren't trying to discuss racism or racist words. No one knows what point you were trying to make. You seem to think it is okay for others to say things that you're not allowed to say, but you weren't saying anything.

If you want to have a conversation, use sentences, say what you mean.
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« Reply #1046 on: June 16, 2026, 05:20:20 PM »
Well you deleted the word from unconvinceds post so if the rule is that we aren't allowed to use that word here, then I think it's fair and I'm happy not to quote a post that doesnt exist anymore.

Also you forgot to remove the gamer word from your post where you quoted unconvinced.

Here.

Have a nice night.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #1047 on: June 16, 2026, 05:24:36 PM »
There's not a rule that you can't use a racist word in a conversation about the word. That is not what you were doing. Stop making me treat you like a fucking baby.
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« Reply #1048 on: June 16, 2026, 05:27:28 PM »
I dont understand the anger.

It breaks the rules on racism, hate speech and profanity.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=43826.msg1086418#msg1086418

I think you did the right thing removing the word.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #1049 on: June 16, 2026, 05:37:39 PM »
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Do not post anything ironically, satirically, humorously, or blatantly racist in nature. Hate speech of any kind is forbidden.

It wasn't ironic, satirical, humorous, or blatantly racist.

It was in a conversation about racism.

Stop being fucking retarted. I removed the word because you lost control of yourself. I shouldn't have to babysit a grown man, but here we are. Fuck.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.