How can you dismiss all the space footage?

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #330 on: April 05, 2024, 03:33:28 AM »
because you took one response to one question and applied it to ALL questions.




life can't be this difficult can it?
holyshit
this is like trying to explain how circles are round to bulma.

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #331 on: April 05, 2024, 03:47:38 AM »


1. Why is the flag flapping in the wind? In no atmosphere, the flag should droop.

The rod that is clearly there above the flag, running its length supporting the flag.  With a mechanical drive to simulate flapping in the wind. 

Do you want me to keep going?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there is no mechanical drive in the flag? It's just the oscillation of the flag because, for one, the low gravity on the moon implies less friction between the flag and the pole, and two, the lack of atmosphere implies no damping due to air, which makes the oscillation take forever to die down. Well, not "forever", but you get the gist.

As for the shadows, it's all about perspective. But I can't really answer that well, so I'll leave that to JB. Hopefully he will.

And for the third, just because it is possible to fake something wouldn't imply that it is indeed faked. Like, it could just be possible that you, bulma, could be mentally retarded, but would that imply that you indeed are?

EDIT: If you actually did your homework, you'll realise that the flag waving was the same phenomenon as a pendulum - from the question I asked which you completely ignore
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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #332 on: April 05, 2024, 03:52:34 AM »
you can literally see a stick sewn into the top of the flag to hold it out.

and if it were wind generated, the dusty ground would be blowing up dust.




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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #333 on: April 05, 2024, 04:22:56 AM »
because you took one response to one question and applied it to ALL questions.




life can't be this difficult can it?
holyshit
this is like trying to explain how circles are round to bulma.

I didn’t do anything like that.

You posted this.


He alreasy told you

" its cgi."


I went into great detail to how the ISS broadcasts and how it can be verified.  And how certain posters have to completely turn off their senses and sense to continue their lies.  Talk about not “listening”.

You made a stupid comment like this.


a light in the sky doesn't prove the videos aren't CGI.

see the part where you didn't debunk all video is CGI?


So I replied.

The ISS isn’t just a light in the sky is it.

So you have to create a false narrative.

Then asked this…


He alreasy told you

" its cgi."

Hmm.  Were you “listening” Themightykabool?

Is that what bulmabriefs144 claimed regarding the Apollo space mission footage and active live broadcasts.


And now your on full butt hurt retard mode.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #334 on: April 05, 2024, 04:29:23 AM »

It's just the oscillation of the flag

you can literally see a stick sewn into the top of the flag to hold it out.

and if it were wind generated, the dusty ground would be blowing up dust.


The problem is, sometimes you chase a “conspiracy” that never really happened.


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NASA Moon landing: Why did the Apollo 11 flag wave and flap in space?


Highly unlikely, because there is one key factor all lunar conspiracies get wrong and that is the American flag did not really flap or wave on the Moon.

According to the UK National Space Centre in Leicester, the flag’s apparent movements were caused by the astronauts themselves and not wind.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1140849/NASA-Moon-landing-flag-Apollo-11-why-flag-wave-flap-NASA-hoax-conspiracy?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Probably wrong about the mechanical drive.    But is there really video of the flag waving on the moon.

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #335 on: April 05, 2024, 04:39:23 AM »
mmm
nonot butt hurt.
you're butthurt because i called you stupid.
you are stupid.
and i'm baffled at how stupid you are.

it's very simple.
you keep trying to recount history, yet you keep omitting post that you posted immediately preceding my CGI post.
the post that caused the whole reason i posted "CGI".
that's it.
context.
you keep it out for a reason.
what reason is that?
is it because you're stupid, or dishonest - your choices aren't great.




and separately to our CGI topic,
if his basis is that videos are just "CGI"
and your defense is that "there are videos".
then that doesn't really debunk anything does it?

let's try thinking:
if i pointed at a random star and said i got a YT video from that star, see this video, it came from taht star.
you see that star?
this video came from it.
proof! *drops mic


and then if i paid my friend Bill, and says to you that Bill is independent 3rd party, and Bill "verifies" my video is authentic.
double proof! *picks up mic to drop it again



but...is that a proof?
are you good at math?
A = B because B = A.
A = A

how about

God wrote the Bible.
i read it in the Bible that God wrote the Bible.
Therefore, God wrote the Bible.



Circular Reasoning avoids your brain like Geometric Circles avoid Bulmba's brain.
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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #336 on: April 05, 2024, 04:40:48 AM »
I would say there is no flapping of the flag, only when it’s being manhandled?




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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #337 on: April 05, 2024, 04:48:35 AM »
mmm
nonot butt hurt.


And yet you ignored posts from march 31, and couldn’t answer the below…

who doesn't listen.

Who’s the one not paying attention to the thread?  You?

Or bulmabriefs144 that makes themselves completely oblivious to the evidence presented by many different people from many different sources, by various means.


So, Themightykabool.  Who isn’t paying attention.  While you totally ignore all the “listening” not done by bulmabriefs144. And what was actually posted about the Apollo mission and a stage on march 31.  Your argument is right down stupid and ignorant.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #338 on: April 05, 2024, 04:53:09 AM »


it's very simple.
you keep trying to recount history,

Oh.  No.

You only posted “CGI” on April 4.

Then I asked about the postings about the Apollo missions being staged you ignored from March 31, you got butt hurt and played stupid because it shows you don’t “listen”….

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #339 on: April 05, 2024, 05:19:48 AM »

Here you go

How about the actual topic of the thread?

How can you dismiss all the space footage?

Which is backed by an actual broadcasting international space station orbiting earth in space you can see with your own unaided eyes.

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #340 on: April 05, 2024, 05:20:34 AM »

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #341 on: April 05, 2024, 05:21:22 AM »
April 4 - you.
11:47

Immediately followed by
April 4 - me.
12:23



Time stamps are an amazing thing.




And the way i read you "asking me about march31" was as if my apeil4 answer  was supposed to have included for and pertained to march31.
Whcih im clarifying to you - it didnt and it doesnt.
Thats how i read it.
And here we are.
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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #342 on: April 05, 2024, 05:37:30 AM »
April 4 - you.
11:47

Immediately followed by
April 4 - me.
12:23



Time stamps are an amazing thing.


What’s the time stamps on the posts for the set or stage comments regarding the Apollo discussion in this thread…


You are correct, they didn't risk their lives for a lie. The entire thing was in a set.

Which is a lie by you.

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Apollo 11

The Bochum Observatory director (Professor Heinz Kaminski) was able to provide confirmation of events and data independent of both the Russian and U.S. space agencies.[18]
A compilation of sightings appeared in "Observations of Apollo 11" by Sky and Telescope magazine, November 1969.[19]
At Jodrell Bank Observatory in the UK, the telescope was used to observe the mission, as it was used years previously for Sputnik.[20] At the same time, Jodrell Bank scientists were tracking the uncrewed Soviet spacecraft Luna 15, which was trying to land on the Moon.[21] In July 2009, Jodrell released some recordings they made.[22]
Larry Baysinger,a radio amateur (W4EJA) and a technician for WHAS radio in Louisville, Kentucky, independently detected and recorded transmissions between the Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface and the Lunar Module.[23] Recordings made by Baysinger share certain characteristics with recordings made at Bochum Observatory by Kaminski, in that both Kaminski's and Baysinger's recordings do not include the Capsule Communicator (CAPCOM) in Houston, Texas, and the associated Quindar tones heard in NASA audio and seen on NASA Apollo 11 transcripts. Kaminski and Baysinger could only hear the transmissions from the Moon, and not transmissions to the Moon from the Earth.[18][24]
The Arcetri Observatory near Florence, Italy, also detected transmissions coming from the mission[25][26] using a 10 meters dish.[27





 Show me the Apollo 11 video, and I will show you multiple shots where it fails the bullshit test.



You can’t analyze yourself out of a paper bag.  You only have lies.  Sounds like a great thread.  You should make one.


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Charming conspiracy theorist confused by reflections



Why the Moon photos could not be fake



Basically there was no way to fake the light of the sun on the moon.  A very far off, very strong single point light source.  And other items.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #343 on: April 05, 2024, 05:41:07 AM »

1. Why is the flag flapping in the wind? In no atmosphere, the flag should droop.


Hopefully this doesn’t get pushed into the background by persons making false claims of not listening by a person that can’t follow a thread.

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

For this flag with a top rod running the length of flag to keep it extended?




I would say there is no flapping of the flag, only when it’s being manhandled?




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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #344 on: April 05, 2024, 06:07:09 AM »
April 4 - you.
11:47

Immediately followed by
April 4 - me.
12:23



Time stamps are an amazing thing.


What’s the time stamps on the posts for the set or stage comments regarding the Apollo discussion in this thread…

[Irrelevant to context of the two post exhange on april4 and was never in dispute]


Spectacular
Astounding
Amazing

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #345 on: April 05, 2024, 06:23:09 AM »

Spectacular
Astounding
Amazing

Yet you literally posed this..


You thinks when i said 'cgi'meant i was reaponding to your future claim about "moon walk" and definitely not to your earlier claim about "live feed"?

Youve got about as much honesty as bulmbes here.

Your meaningless babbling about the Apollo missions brought up by Smoke Machine on the March 31.  Where another person in the thread commented on a staged or set event with nothing to do with CGI.  And I responded back on the same day with a quick question and two videos why the film of the moon landings are not fake.

While you babble about people not “listening” in a thread you can’t follow while you ignore bulmabriefs144 has to turn off all sense and sense to lie about the Apollo moon landing being “staged” on set on earth. 

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #346 on: April 05, 2024, 06:37:54 AM »
Read it again

Payatrention to the puncutation.
I rarely use it.
But when i do.
I use it.


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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #347 on: April 05, 2024, 07:16:28 AM »
Read it again

Payatrention to the puncutation.
I rarely use it.
But when i do.
I use it.

Your just babbling at this point.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #348 on: April 05, 2024, 07:18:11 AM »
Read it again

Payatrention to the puncutation.
I rarely use it.
But when i do.
I use it.

Which one.  You post dozens of pointless posts that are just pointless babbling. 

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #349 on: April 05, 2024, 07:19:48 AM »
Read it again

Payatrention to the puncutation.
I rarely use it.
But when i do.
I use it.

How about you cite and link where you actually answered any questions asked of you instead. 

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #350 on: April 05, 2024, 07:21:40 AM »
Read it again

Payatrention to the puncutation.
I rarely use it.
But when i do.
I use it.

How about this simple question. 

What is the first timestamp made in regards to posting about the Apollo missions brought up by others in this thread. 

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #351 on: April 05, 2024, 08:36:45 AM »
Read it again

Payatrention to the puncutation.
I rarely use it.
But when i do.
I use it.

Which one.  You post dozens of pointless posts that are just pointless babbling.


this one below.
lieterlaly this one
the one where you quoted me so in continuital flux i immediately responded to.
does one post not flow into the next?
how do you converse in IRL?
are you operating out side of linear time?

the rest of us operate on analog time.

holyshit it's like FadedMike and Bulma had a baby, then dropped the baby on it's head and named it Data.








Yet you literally posed this..


You thinks when i said 'cgi'meant i was reaponding to your future claim about "moon walk" and definitely not to your earlier claim about "live feed"?

Youve got about as much honesty as bulmbes here.



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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #352 on: April 05, 2024, 08:49:12 AM »

this one below.
lieterlaly this one
the one where you quoted me so in continuital flux i immediately responded to.
does one post not flow into the next?
how do you converse in IRL?
are you operating out side of linear time?

the rest of us operate on analog.

holyshit it's like FadedMike and Bulma had a baby, then dropped the baby on it's head and named it Data.


Asked you a simple question.

What is the first timestamp made in regards to posting about the Apollo missions brought up by others in this thread.

You have established a pattern.  You get asked a simple question.  You ignore it, and incoherently babble with no clear context.  And try to act like the argument is something else.

Did you lose your stapler too?





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bulmabriefs144

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #353 on: April 05, 2024, 09:08:57 AM »


You have like a 1.5 second clip where it does not move. The clip in context...



You can see rather clearly the flag waving despite itself. This happens in an atmosphere.

Also.

Guys, what are you doing in-fighting? If "Jesus will not help you," you said, but you two are both RE types, and you're quibbling over something I don't fully get.

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But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand."

If you wish to stand against me (or Jesus), and you cannot agree without fighting, your cause is doomed from the onset.
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If ρ=m/V, then B=ρsurfobj


Here's my Bible, if ya wanna read

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #354 on: April 05, 2024, 09:48:38 AM »

[edited so my response makes more sense in flow]

And try to act like the argument is something else.



Asked you a simple question.

What is the first timestamp made in regards to posting about the Apollo missions brought up by others in this thread.

You have established a pattern.  You get asked a simple question.  You ignore it, and incoherently babble with no clear context. 





because it is.
and becuase you're stupid.



see when you asked about the ISS, and i responded CGI showing you're stupid, you changed the question and presented my response in a misleading format to the new/ old question Moon.
i can't say it enough times.
you keep avoiding this becuase your brain understands it makes you look dishonest and stupd (which you are).
so now you focus focus focus on this other "simple" question.
a questions i'm not avoiding because it is irrelevant to the dispute

the dispute is - you misrepresent me in specific ref to ISS:CGI.

hurray




so your "simple" question is dumber than Timeies simple question of a man with amensia.
it is irrelevant to me and will not be answered because of its irrelevancy to me.

you also avoid the "simple question"
why do you keep excluding your post about ISS as if it has nothing to do with my post?


here's another "simple question"
do you operate within earth's gravitation standard time or are you a transdimensional being?





happy friday.
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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #355 on: April 05, 2024, 09:51:39 AM »


You have like a 1.5 second clip where it does not move. The clip in context...



You can see rather clearly the flag waving despite itself. This happens in an atmosphere.

Also.

Guys, what are you doing in-fighting? If "Jesus will not help you," you said, but you two are both RE types, and you're quibbling over something I don't fully get.

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But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand."

If you wish to stand against me (or Jesus), and you cannot agree without fighting, your cause is doomed from the onset.


Bulma, no, look, in the video you've posted, throughout the entire 44 seconds not once did buzz aldrin (I assume he's the one planting the flag) take his hands off the flagpole.


Watch this video

Skip to 02:22
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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #356 on: April 05, 2024, 09:57:07 AM »



You have like a 1.5 second clip where it does not move.

The format of gif and the website I use for hosting only always about a three second clip.


You can see rather clearly the flag waving despite itself. This happens in an atmosphere.



It’s not waving itself. The flag is being manhandled. 



When the flag isn’t man handled, it stops moving.





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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #357 on: April 05, 2024, 10:06:21 AM »

 This happens in an atmosphere.




Why wouldn’t the moon have an extremely thin atmosphere?  Or some sort of atmosphere. 

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Is there an atmosphere on the Moon?
For a long time scientists thought that there was no atmosphere on the Moon, but recent studies have confirmed that there is one.

The very thin atmosphere, known as an exosphere, contains helium, argon, neon, ammonia, methane and carbon dioxide. It also contains sodium and potassium, which are not usually found as gases in the atmospheres of Earth, Venus or Mars.

Where this atmosphere comes from is still not known. Some theories suggest that the solar winds and high energy particles are stripping material from the surface of the Moon, while others propose that evaporation of surface material might be involved or even meteor impacts. It could also be a combination of all of these effects.

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/factfile-the-moon.html#:~:text=The%20very%20thin%20atmosphere%2C%20known,of%20Earth%2C%20Venus%20or%20Mars.

Having no atmosphere is not really true, and different than having no winds with the strength to make a flag wave.

If the atmosphere is thin enough, you can make a solar sail pushed by photons from the sun.

Note.  I guess a magnetic sail would be charged particles. 

It’s all relative. 

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #358 on: April 05, 2024, 12:13:47 PM »
You think he believes the photos on the moon is where the photos were taken?

Yoy think he believes the wind is from moon atmosphere?




No

He beleives it was done on a stage.
If you were listening...

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #359 on: April 05, 2024, 12:22:02 PM »
You think he believes the photos on the moon is where the photos were taken?

Yoy think he believes the wind is from moon atmosphere?




No

He beleives it was done on a stage.
If you were listening...

Why I posted this on March 31.


You are correct, they didn't risk their lives for a lie. The entire thing was in a set.

Which is a lie by you.

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Apollo 11

The Bochum Observatory director (Professor Heinz Kaminski) was able to provide confirmation of events and data independent of both the Russian and U.S. space agencies.[18]
A compilation of sightings appeared in "Observations of Apollo 11" by Sky and Telescope magazine, November 1969.[19]
At Jodrell Bank Observatory in the UK, the telescope was used to observe the mission, as it was used years previously for Sputnik.[20] At the same time, Jodrell Bank scientists were tracking the uncrewed Soviet spacecraft Luna 15, which was trying to land on the Moon.[21] In July 2009, Jodrell released some recordings they made.[22]
Larry Baysinger,a radio amateur (W4EJA) and a technician for WHAS radio in Louisville, Kentucky, independently detected and recorded transmissions between the Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface and the Lunar Module.[23] Recordings made by Baysinger share certain characteristics with recordings made at Bochum Observatory by Kaminski, in that both Kaminski's and Baysinger's recordings do not include the Capsule Communicator (CAPCOM) in Houston, Texas, and the associated Quindar tones heard in NASA audio and seen on NASA Apollo 11 transcripts. Kaminski and Baysinger could only hear the transmissions from the Moon, and not transmissions to the Moon from the Earth.[18][24]
The Arcetri Observatory near Florence, Italy, also detected transmissions coming from the mission[25][26] using a 10 meters dish.[27





 Show me the Apollo 11 video, and I will show you multiple shots where it fails the bullshit test.



You can’t analyze yourself out of a paper bag.  You only have lies.  Sounds like a great thread.  You should make one.


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Charming conspiracy theorist confused by reflections



Why the Moon photos could not be fake



Basically there was no way to fake the light of the sun on the moon.  A very far off, very strong single point light source.  And other items.

Then at a later date posted this.


I guess Themightykabool, you don’t understand that much of  “space footage” is literally third party verified with documented evidence. Various “Space footage” is verified and proven.  Why do I have to retry the case when the evidence and facts are already established. For someone who literally is blind, deaf, and dumb by their delusion.  And embraces lies they regurgitate.  So.  Who isn’t listening?

Now Themightykabool, I “listen”. Whatever you post doesn’t make flat earther’s ignoring plies of evidence that is verified and throughly documented an excuse.