How can you dismiss all the space footage?

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #300 on: April 04, 2024, 03:06:05 PM »
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Atheism

Which isn’t the topic of this thread. 

If you think the Apollo Space Footage is fake.

Why is the lighting prefect match for sunlight in the footage.

Why is there third party verification of live transmissions from the moon during the Apollo missions.

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #301 on: April 04, 2024, 03:11:47 PM »

fun fact

the dictator leaders present themselves as god to their peoples.
that's how they hold power.

This is because "atheism" doesn't exist.

You believe in Luck as your god.
Or you believe in the leader as your god.
Or sports.
Or superstition.

Scotland has very few actual Christians. But when we visited, they had alot of ghost tours. Or crystal/tarot shops.

People say they don't believe in God, but something is their god. 

Lil' Kim makes a poor god, though. He is an actual tyrannical POS.

God? He gets blamed for people dying, but you know, no matter how wise or how powerful you are, the fact is we are fragile. Do the pots blame the potter for not making them indestructible?

You know who I call a tyrant? The guy who breaks pots intentionally, who kills people intentionally? Or the guy who creates the universe, but maybe makes things a bit imperfectly? Yeah, the first. The first one, as a result of actual malice, causes harm to others.

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Dorothy: You're a very bad man.
Oz: Oh no, my dear. I'm a very good man. Just a... very bad wizard.

If you want to rant about God, there are sections of the forum for that. Stop bothering us with it in this thread. It's of-topic. I has nothing to do with dismissing all space footage. Even Jesus knew more about stars in the night sky than you do, by virtue of one leading the 3 wise men to him upon his birth.

Meanwhile, not only do I not know which God you worship nor care, I also don't know which pronouns I can use with you, without offending you.



For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #302 on: April 04, 2024, 03:14:39 PM »

Then if you still don't get it,

You bulmabriefs144 being a prolific and proven a blatant liar on the simplest of things think you have the right to lecture on matters of spiritually?

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You're a rotter, Mr. Grinch. You're the king of sinful sots! Your heart's a dead tomato splotched With moldy purple spots, Mr. Grinch.
Your soul is an appalling dump heap
Overflowing with the most disgraceful assortment of deplorable rubbish imaginable Mangled up in tangled up knots!

https://www.scholastic.com/content/dam/teachers/blogs/genia-connell/migrated-files/mr._grinch.pdf

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #303 on: April 04, 2024, 03:15:39 PM »
a light in the sky doesn't prove the videos aren't CGI.

see the part where you didn't debunk all video is CGI?



The ISS isn’t just a light in the sky is it.

So you have to create a false narrative.

congratulations.
you're a moron who doesn't listen.

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #304 on: April 04, 2024, 03:21:52 PM »
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your claim that dictator-run countries are also atheistic is because to control followers there must be ultimate authority. so these dictators have made themselves god.

Look up the term "state atheism" and cross-reference it with "authoritarianism".

They were not just in defiance of God, but their defiance caused them to elect a god-emperor who led them to legitimate enslavement. Did you notice that bit about women in pregnancy having to continue making bricks even while their water was breaking and they were having labor pains?



still not listening - god emporer is what you're doing if you elect trump and the magahat GOP.

dictator trump.
removing social security on the sick and elderly.
work until you're dead and if you're sick and can't work, you lose healthcare (which kind of defeats the purpose of healthinsurance).
means testing the poor on benefits.



congratulations.
you just proved you're stupid (again).



also
last word on this back to you, because as pointed out, it's offtopic

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #305 on: April 04, 2024, 03:26:06 PM »

congratulations.
you're a moron who doesn't listen.

Now now Themightykabool.  That doesn’t answer the post below.

He alreasy told you

" its cgi."

Hmm.  Were you “listening” Themightykabool?

Is that what bulmabriefs144 claimed regarding the Apollo space mission footage and active live broadcasts.

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #306 on: April 04, 2024, 03:28:06 PM »
who doesn't listen.

Who’s the one not paying attention to the thread?  You?

Or bulmabriefs144 that makes themselves completely oblivious to the evidence presented by many different people from many different sources, by various means. 


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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #307 on: April 04, 2024, 06:27:49 PM »
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still not listening - god emporer is what you're doing if you elect trump and the magahat GOP.

dictator trump.
removing social security on the sick and elderly.
work until you're dead and if you're sick and can't work, you lose healthcare (which kind of defeats the purpose of health insurance).
means testing the poor on benefits.

Read what I said earlier on asking for kings. The US was set up (supposedly because democracy is a noble goal) to vote for leaders. Either we accept the leaders that God picks or if the goal is to get out of it, we can only do that by pushing things to the bitter end (i.e. where everyone votes to abolish the presidential system, because you and I agree finally agree that all these politicians are scumbags).

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It's off-topic. I has nothing to do with dismissing all space footage

Oh stop kidding all of us. When I actually talk about space footage, you talk all about other stuff to redirect the topic. Then when theology becomes uncomfy, you act all offended because of religion. Where was any of this when you guys said stuff like "Jesus can't help you out of this one, no matter how hard you pray to him. You've lost this argument, haven't you?" You initiate this stuff then when you're called out on it, you try to claim it's off-topic.

Actually, the argument was DOA by the time that you said that. I already explained that the rules of buoyancy and propulsion don't work for that. You ignored that argument and acted like you had proved something.
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evidence presented by many different people from many different sources
"Evidence."

So while we're talking about listening, I believe a page or two ago, I asked for the Apollo 11 footage, and that I would analyze shots from it. I'm seeing no videos of that when I look over previous pages.

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I guess that's a 'yes' to my question?

It's a no. Pressure from a greater volume simply diffuses to a lesser volume. But unlike your fantasy of perpetual motion in a vacuum or the idea that rockets shoot off in a vacuum, the balloon after shooting off flops to the ground. This is quite different from how a balloon behaves in air.

(In air)

(In vacuum. Notice the sag)

(In vacuum. Not rising)

(Balloon "flies" immediately to the ground)

Propulsion works. Buoyancy does not work, because all physical objects are heavier.

Therefore, leaving the atmosphere is impossible. You can temporarily boost yourself, maybe, but this is quite different from "launching through space".

Yup, I predict you guys will suddenly not care about "off-topic" things.
If ρ=m/V, then B=ρsurfobj


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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #308 on: April 04, 2024, 07:12:31 PM »

congratulations.
you're a moron who doesn't listen.

Now now Themightykabool.  That doesn’t answer the post below.

He alreasy told you

" its cgi."

Hmm.  Were you “listening” Themightykabool?

Is that what bulmabriefs144 claimed regarding the Apollo space mission footage and active live broadcasts.


Taking posts out of context to try and make yourself right.
How clearly not not not dishonest you are.
Oh right youve done that before...


You thinks when i said 'cgi'meant i was reaponding to your future claim about "moon walk" and definitely not to your earlier claim about "live feed"?

Youve got about as much honesty as bulmbes here.

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #309 on: April 04, 2024, 07:37:28 PM »



Oh stop kidding all of us. When I actually talk about space footage, you talk all about other stuff to redirect the topic.

You posted this.


 Show me the Apollo 11 video, and I will show you multiple shots where it fails the bullshit test.


I posted this…

Third party verification
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Apollo 11

The Bochum Observatory director (Professor Heinz Kaminski) was able to provide confirmation of events and data independent of both the Russian and U.S. space agencies.[18]
A compilation of sightings appeared in "Observations of Apollo 11" by Sky and Telescope magazine, November 1969.[19]
At Jodrell Bank Observatory in the UK, the telescope was used to observe the mission, as it was used years previously for Sputnik.[20] At the same time, Jodrell Bank scientists were tracking the uncrewed Soviet spacecraft Luna 15, which was trying to land on the Moon.[21] In July 2009, Jodrell released some recordings they made.[22]
Larry Baysinger,a radio amateur (W4EJA) and a technician for WHAS radio in Louisville, Kentucky, independently detected and recorded transmissions between the Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface and the Lunar Module.[23] Recordings made by Baysinger share certain characteristics with recordings made at Bochum Observatory by Kaminski, in that both Kaminski's and Baysinger's recordings do not include the Capsule Communicator (CAPCOM) in Houston, Texas, and the associated Quindar tones heard in NASA audio and seen on NASA Apollo 11 transcripts. Kaminski and Baysinger could only hear the transmissions from the Moon, and not transmissions to the Moon from the Earth.[18][24]
The Arcetri Observatory near Florence, Italy, also detected transmissions coming from the mission[25][26] using a 10 meters dish.[27


You can’t analyze yourself out of a paper bag.  You only have lies.  Sounds like a great thread.  You should make one.


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Charming conspiracy theorist confused by reflections



Why the Moon photos could not be fake



Basically there was no way to fake the light of the sun on the moon.  A very far off, very strong single point light source.  And other items.




Then when theology becomes uncomfy,

You lie too much for anyone to have you preach any spirituality to anyone. And nobody gives a damn about your theology.





I already explained that the rules of buoyancy

No.  You butchered buoyancy.  Failed to explain or prove how it’s a fundamental force when it relies on air density and air molecules with you having no explanation what causes air molecules to over come their tendency to distance themselves and bunch up at earth’s surface to create a pressure gradient.


and propulsion don't

No.  You ignore that rocket fuel carries its own fuel and oxizer, and doesn’t need free oxygen from an atmosphere to burn.

You ignored from another thread that something like C-4 doesn’t even need an atmosphere to react.  A shock wave causes the highly energetic chemical bonds to breakdown in the C-4 molecules, the C-4 decomposes to create gasses and heat that expands initially at something like 24,000 ft/Sec.  Are you saying a C-4 explosion of gasses wouldn’t expand in a vacuum? 

With rockets being propelled essentially by a controlled explosion, you haven’t explained why the laws of motion particularly opposite and equal reaction magical stops in an extreme low density atmosphere.

Rockets literally release their own atmosphere of rapidly expanding hot gases and mass.  The result is like the equal and opposite movement of firing a shotgun.  Nothing like the drone propellers that can’t release their own gasses from a controlled explosion, trying to create thrust in a vacuum. 


So while we're talking about listening, I believe a page or two ago, I asked for the Apollo 11 footage, and that I would analyze shots from it. I'm seeing no videos of that when I look over previous pages.

Literally in this post. 



You can’t analyze yourself out of a paper bag.  You only have lies.  Sounds like a great thread.  You should make one.


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Why the Moon photos could not be fake



Basically there was no way to fake the light of the sun on the moon.  A very far off, very strong single point light source.  And other items.




Pressure from a greater volume simply diffuses to a lesser volume.

Volume isn’t pressure.  It’s how much you have in space in something like cubic feet.

Which in no way explains why the earth’s atmosphere is bunched up at the surface at a greater pressure, and why it doesn’t equalise to the upper atmosphere with more volume, less density, less pressure in your dome delusion.

How does the less density and pressure of the upper atmosphere trap higher pressure in place at the earth’s surface. 


But unlike your fantasy of perpetual motion in a vacuum

How is rocket fuel burning, creating an on going controlled explosion like a shotgun kicking for an equal and opposite reaction until the fuel runs out in a vacuum “perpetual” motion.  It makes sense in an extremely low dense atmosphere with essentially no air resistance.

Vs your perpetual motion machine of a sun in atmosphere circulating above the earth. 

While you ignore the reality and existence of comets that orbit the sun in near empty space.  As in outer space that offers negligible air resistance. 


or the idea that rockets shoot off in a vacuum, the balloon after shooting off flops to the ground.

Again.  Why does the laws of motion magically stop in your delusion.  Where in reality we have meteorites, comets that orbit the sun, and manmade objects like the ISS that orbit the earth.  And you have the moon that is literally a natural satellite that orbits the earth.  You know the moon.  The big solid thing of mass that blocks the sun’s radiation during a solar eclipse, and causes tides.

Therefore, leaving the atmosphere is impossible.

And yet you can go outside and watch man made satellites like the ISS orbit the earth at night.
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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #310 on: April 04, 2024, 07:44:27 PM »


You thinks when i said 'cgi'meant i was reaponding to your future claim about "moon walk" and definitely not to your earlier claim about "live feed"?

What future post?

Your post…. Today.  April 4, 2024…

He alreasy told you

" its cgi."


Smoke Machine post from  March 31, 2024…

Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were people, weren't they? They didn't risk their lives for a lie, did they? The Apollo 11 mission worked and they survived, in part because rockets don't propel forward by pushing off walls of air or walls of anything.

 bulmabriefs144 reply on March 31,


You are correct, they didn't risk their lives for a lie. The entire thing was in a set. Show me the Apollo 11 video, and I will show you multiple shots where it fails the bullshit test.




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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #311 on: April 04, 2024, 08:03:51 PM »
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still not listening - god emporer is what you're doing if you elect trump and the magahat GOP.

dictator trump.
removing social security on the sick and elderly.
work until you're dead and if you're sick and can't work, you lose healthcare (which kind of defeats the purpose of health insurance).
means testing the poor on benefits.

Read what I said earlier on asking for kings. The US was set up (supposedly because democracy is a noble goal) to vote for leaders. Either we accept the leaders that God picks or if the goal is to get out of it, we can only do that by pushing things to the bitter end (i.e. where everyone votes to abolish the presidential system, because you and I agree finally agree that all these politicians are scumbags).

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It's off-topic. I has nothing to do with dismissing all space footage

Oh stop kidding all of us. When I actually talk about space footage, you talk all about other stuff to redirect the topic. Then when theology becomes uncomfy, you act all offended because of religion. Where was any of this when you guys said stuff like "Jesus can't help you out of this one, no matter how hard you pray to him. You've lost this argument, haven't you?" You initiate this stuff then when you're called out on it, you try to claim it's off-topic.

Actually, the argument was DOA by the time that you said that. I already explained that the rules of buoyancy and propulsion don't work for that. You ignored that argument and acted like you had proved something.
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evidence presented by many different people from many different sources
"Evidence."

So while we're talking about listening, I believe a page or two ago, I asked for the Apollo 11 footage, and that I would analyze shots from it. I'm seeing no videos of that when I look over previous pages.

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I guess that's a 'yes' to my question?

It's a no. Pressure from a greater volume simply diffuses to a lesser volume. But unlike your fantasy of perpetual motion in a vacuum or the idea that rockets shoot off in a vacuum, the balloon after shooting off flops to the ground. This is quite different from how a balloon behaves in air.

(In air)

(In vacuum. Notice the sag)

(In vacuum. Not rising)

(Balloon "flies" immediately to the ground)

Propulsion works. Buoyancy does not work, because all physical objects are heavier.

Therefore, leaving the atmosphere is impossible. You can temporarily boost yourself, maybe, but this is quite different from "launching through space".

Yup, I predict you guys will suddenly not care about "off-topic" things.

What do you mean, "I asked for Apollo 11 footage to analyse?"

Do I look like your personal secretary? I already told you to watch the Apollo 11 documentary or you can cough up your own clips from youtube on Apollo 11 as you see
fit.

Once again, Jesus can't help you. The sooner you accept that, the better.
For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #312 on: April 04, 2024, 08:39:27 PM »
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I was reading a book called Does God Exist? An Answer For Today.

Coincidences. Anyways, now that you have attained buddhahood or something, maybe you can now answer my question about the pendulum?

P.S. Who went and made God a guy? Why can't it be a girl? In fact, why in merlin's name does God even have a gender in the first place?

I can. But you didn't ask if I would;D

Also in the above theological tome. Just after the tyrannical part, btw.

Here you go!

Or you can watch Joan of Arcadia for the teenage version.

Hmmm... Let me rephrase myself, now that you are a Bodhisattva or something, will you finally post an answer to my question about the pendulum?
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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #313 on: April 04, 2024, 08:40:31 PM »
bulma, since you are so big on conservation laws like thermodynamics, have you ever heard of conservation of momentum?
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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #314 on: April 04, 2024, 08:46:34 PM »
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What do you mean, "I asked for Apollo 11 footage to analyse?"

Do I look like your personal secretary? I already told you to watch the Apollo 11 documentary or you can cough up your own clips from youtube on Apollo 11 as you see fit.

Once again, Jesus can't help you. The sooner you accept that, the better.

This is what I said.

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Bulma, I like to give credit where credit is due, and congratulations, this time you are right! Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were people, weren't they? They didn't risk their lives for a lie, did they? The Apollo 11 mission worked and they survived, in part because rockets don't propel forward by pushing off walls of air or walls of anything.

You are correct, they didn't risk their lives for a lie. The entire thing was in a set. Show me the Apollo 11 video, and I will show you multiple shots where it fails the bullshit test.

Flying a space ship is extraordinarily dangerous even if the science did work. The odds of them risking their life is approaching 0%. At low pressure, you die from depressurization sickness. Then there's the fact that when this launch was supposedly done, the average computer was terrible.

And this involved rooms of this crap. Punchcards. Laborious coding. People mostly doing the calculations manually and then coding them into the computer, which had nothing approaching decent AI. As shown in Hidden Figures.

For comparison, a typical NES game cartridge can run actual games in real time, and has up to 1 MB of memory.

They absolutely never risked their lives for a lie. They didn't get into a shuttle (snuck out the back) they didn't go into space, and they weren't on the moon. They didn't risk their asses on the chance that the thing might explode, come crashing down, or not have enough oxygen. This is the gutlessness of this lie.

They talk big, but they didn't do any of this for real.

The director confessing that he helped make the moon landing look real.

Jesus gives us words to say. If not for his presence in our lives, we would literally be as intelligent as chimps, if even that.

Chimps are fucking stupid. They say we are related, but they are about as smart as a six-year-old without the ability to think or create anything. No, no amount of chimps can write Shakespeare. They would literally write faskkegikeGKLBifbwqjevbvebekjekenEWKBGJAGBGlknaxKwk,fn while screaming and throwing their own shit. They can maybe copy things they see. That's not creativity, it's random synapses.

So no, I don't care if you believe me or not. "Jesus can't help you"? He helps us both. You'd also be as dumb as a chimp and unable to string together coherent sentences.

You are too lazy to find your own video. If the Apollo 11 worked... ummm, why can't you show me that it worked?
Seems to me that you want me to verify your own proof. I'm not your secretary.


1. Why is the flag flapping in the wind? In no atmosphere, the flag should droop.

2. If light is coming from a real source, why are shadows not matching up?

3. "The hills are alive with the Sound of Music." 10 years before NASA landing, they were able to make background layers depicting mountain land.

This all without computers. Now look again at the people standing on "moon" (greyscale) soil with the black background and the rover and moon hills. This is even less convincing than a film produced 10 years before.

Jesus can help you. Confess your deceit and turn to him.
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If ρ=m/V, then B=ρsurfobj


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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #315 on: April 04, 2024, 09:52:57 PM »
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What do you mean, "I asked for Apollo 11 footage to analyse?"

Do I look like your personal secretary? I already told you to watch the Apollo 11 documentary or you can cough up your own clips from youtube on Apollo 11 as you see fit.

Once again, Jesus can't help you. The sooner you accept that, the better.

This is what I said.

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Bulma, I like to give credit where credit is due, and congratulations, this time you are right! Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were people, weren't they? They didn't risk their lives for a lie, did they? The Apollo 11 mission worked and they survived, in part because rockets don't propel forward by pushing off walls of air or walls of anything.

You are correct, they didn't risk their lives for a lie. The entire thing was in a set. Show me the Apollo 11 video, and I will show you multiple shots where it fails the bullshit test.

Flying a space ship is extraordinarily dangerous even if the science did work. The odds of them risking their life is approaching 0%. At low pressure, you die from depressurization sickness. Then there's the fact that when this launch was supposedly done, the average computer was terrible.

And this involved rooms of this crap. Punchcards. Laborious coding. People mostly doing the calculations manually and then coding them into the computer, which had nothing approaching decent AI. As shown in Hidden Figures.

For comparison, a typical NES game cartridge can run actual games in real time, and has up to 1 MB of memory.

They absolutely never risked their lives for a lie. They didn't get into a shuttle (snuck out the back) they didn't go into space, and they weren't on the moon. They didn't risk their asses on the chance that the thing might explode, come crashing down, or not have enough oxygen. This is the gutlessness of this lie.

They talk big, but they didn't do any of this for real.

The director confessing that he helped make the moon landing look real.

Jesus gives us words to say. If not for his presence in our lives, we would literally be as intelligent as chimps, if even that.

Chimps are fucking stupid. They say we are related, but they are about as smart as a six-year-old without the ability to think or create anything. No, no amount of chimps can write Shakespeare. They would literally write faskkegikeGKLBifbwqjevbvebekjekenEWKBGJAGBGlknaxKwk,fn while screaming and throwing their own shit. They can maybe copy things they see. That's not creativity, it's random synapses.

So no, I don't care if you believe me or not. "Jesus can't help you"? He helps us both. You'd also be as dumb as a chimp and unable to string together coherent sentences.

You are too lazy to find your own video. If the Apollo 11 worked... ummm, why can't you show me that it worked?
Seems to me that you want me to verify your own proof. I'm not your secretary.


1. Why is the flag flapping in the wind? In no atmosphere, the flag should droop.

2. If light is coming from a real source, why are shadows not matching up?

3. "The hills are alive with the Sound of Music." 10 years before NASA landing, they were able to make background layers depicting mountain land.

This all without computers. Now look again at the people standing on "moon" (greyscale) soil with the black background and the rover and moon hills. This is even less convincing than a film produced 10 years before.

Jesus can help you. Confess your deceit and turn to him.

How can I produce YOUR evidence for YOUR argument? I don't know what batcrazy shit you're going to come up with next, and I don't know what flat earth space footage is fake examples you are going to cough up. There are hours and hours of Apollo mission space footage and moon footage. There are literally hundreds of thousands of hours of ISS space footage.

You want to argue a bit here and a bit there is fake, then you deliver it.

People were here on Earth long before Jesus was born, 2024 years ago, so how can you say without Jesus we would all be as dumb as chimps? People were already lightyears ahead of chimps before Jesus was even born, and had language. So, you saying Jesus puts words in our mouths, is also batshit crazy. It doesn't even make sense from a christian point of view. It's stupid.

Jesus can't help you in this argument, is what I was saying. I don't care if Jesus helps you get a new job or get a new root. You can pray to Jesus til the cows come home to win this argument and you've no chance. Jesus can however help you out out of the flat earth cult you've found yourself in, which is founded on lies and deceit. You've been conned, just like a lonely farmer who falls for a romance scam and just keeps giving his money away to a romantic notion.

Those moon photos as evidence of fakery has already been explained a thousand times. You really want me to explain them again, while you still can't find any walls of air in your bedroom for a balloon flying around expelling air to push off from? 
For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #316 on: April 04, 2024, 10:28:51 PM »
Like most people, you assume this is the origin point of Jesus.

First off, Jesus was not born in 0 A.D. but probably closer to 6 B.C. according to historians studying the events surrounding his birth (they date this by things like which Herod and which Caesar was in power).

But more importantly, both John and Proverbs (or as I call it, Lady Wisdom) explain that Jesus is in existence from the dawn of creation. So does Genesis.

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1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.

The Word is Jesus Christ. He is explicitly named as existing at the very beginning.

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The Lord created me at the beginning of his work,
    the first of his acts of old.
23 Ages ago I was set up,
    at the first, before the beginning of the earth.
24 When there were no depths I was brought forth,
    when there were no springs abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains had been shaped,
    before the hills, I was brought forth;
26 before he had made the earth with its fields,
    or the first of the dust of the world.
27 When he established the heavens, I was there,
    when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,
28 when he made firm the skies above,
    when he established the fountains of the deep,
29 when he assigned to the sea its limit,
    so that the waters might not transgress his command,
when he marked out the foundations of the earth,
30     then I was beside him, like a master workman;
and I was daily his delight,
    rejoicing before him always,
31 rejoicing in his inhabited world
    and delighting in the sons of men.

Not only that, we have three references to Jesus in Genesis. All of them pretty weird.
1. God is said to walk through the garden of Eden (a spiritual being isn't walking around and being seen)
2. In Sodom and Gomorrah, a man is referenced hanging out with two angels before the place gets destroyed.
3. Jacob wrestles with a man, who later tells him he wrestled with God.

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Those moon photos as evidence of fakery has already been explained a thousand times.

It's funny, but you haven't shown the video, nor actually explained why this is wrong. Meanwhile, I explained three reasons why you're wrong without much effort.

As long as you keep lying, Jesus can't help you. For he came to bear witness to the truth.

Jesus made you evolve into something better than a chimp. Don't let him down. Write something interesting for a change.
If ρ=m/V, then B=ρsurfobj


Here's my Bible, if ya wanna read

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #317 on: April 05, 2024, 12:15:39 AM »

Here you go

How about the actual topic of the thread?

How can you dismiss all the space footage?

Which is backed by an actual broadcasting international space station orbiting earth in space you can see with your own unaided eyes.



To whcih i then immediately after posted





He alreasy told you

" its cgi."




So in context

Data says isis space footage
And i said he said Cgi.




And data took that to claim i shouldve responded to moon walk.

He alreasy told you

" its cgi."

Hmm.  Were you “listening” Themightykabool?

Is that what bulmabriefs144 claimed regarding the Apollo space mission footage and active live broadcasts.




Mmmm dishonest.
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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #318 on: April 05, 2024, 12:19:03 AM »
Lets compare
to claim im not listening - data's take on sequnece of events where he cuts out his isis comment made within the hour of my cgi comment, and says i shouldve responded to a 4day out of continuity post.

Yup
Dishonest.





You thinks when i said 'cgi'meant i was reaponding to your future claim about "moon walk" and definitely not to your earlier claim about "live feed"?

What future post?

Your post…. Today.  April 4, 2024…

He alreasy told you

" its cgi."


Smoke Machine post from  March 31, 2024…

Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were people, weren't they? They didn't risk their lives for a lie, did they? The Apollo 11 mission worked and they survived, in part because rockets don't propel forward by pushing off walls of air or walls of anything.

 bulmabriefs144 reply on March 31,


You are correct, they didn't risk their lives for a lie. The entire thing was in a set. Show me the Apollo 11 video, and I will show you multiple shots where it fails the bullshit test.





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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #319 on: April 05, 2024, 01:42:18 AM »


1. Why is the flag flapping in the wind? In no atmosphere, the flag should droop.

The rod that is clearly there above the flag, running its length supporting the flag.  With a mechanical drive to simulate flapping in the wind. 

Do you want me to keep going?





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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #320 on: April 05, 2024, 01:44:38 AM »


You thinks when i said 'cgi'meant i was reaponding to your future claim about "moon walk" and definitely not to your earlier claim about "live feed"?


Again.  Three of us posted about the Apollo mission on March 31 in this thread.

You’re just a lying at this point. 

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #321 on: April 05, 2024, 01:47:24 AM »
Amazing

At what point did iss april4 and cgi also april4 give ref to moonwalk march31?



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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #322 on: April 05, 2024, 01:51:52 AM »


2. If light is coming from a real source, why are shadows not matching up?


Because that’s how our sight works.


https://www.quora.com/How-do-direction-and-shadow-change-with-directions-of-the-Sun

Wow bulmabriefs144, your “evidence” is make a question with no explanation?  Then run from the fact the shadows are clearly from the sun.  And not from staged lighting in anyway. 

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #323 on: April 05, 2024, 01:58:47 AM »
Amazing

At what point did iss april4 and cgi also april4 give ref to moonwalk march31?


You made this claim on April 4.
He alreasy told you

" its cgi."

 So I posted this in regards to things posted on March 31.



Hmm.  Were you “listening” Themightykabool?

Is that what bulmabriefs144 claimed regarding the Apollo space mission footage and active live broadcasts.

Like this…

bulmabriefs144 reply on March 31,


You are correct, they didn't risk their lives for a lie. The entire thing was in a set. Show me the Apollo 11 video, and I will show you multiple shots where it fails the bullshit test.



Making your below post nonsense.



Taking posts out of context to try and make yourself right.
How clearly not not not dishonest you are.
Oh right youve done that before...


You thinks when i said 'cgi'meant i was reaponding to your future claim about "moon walk" and definitely not to your earlier claim about "live feed"?

Youve got about as much honesty as bulmbes here.

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #324 on: April 05, 2024, 02:13:18 AM »
the part you keep glossing over - when i made teh CGI comment, what post immediately preceded that comment?


can you answer a very specific question without jumping around?
how selective you are.
how very bulmba you are.



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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #325 on: April 05, 2024, 02:49:12 AM »
I notice you are still using delusional religious BS to hide from your complete inability to refute space.
I take it that means you fully accept and admit you have been lying this entire time?

Look up the term "state atheism" and cross-reference it with "authoritarianism".
State atheism is fundamentally different from a leader acting like they are god and outlawing other religions.

Atheism is literal taking credit for what is obviously God's doing.
No, Atheism is literally not having a particular childish, delusional belief.
Nothing more.
As soon as some lying scum like you tries to pretend it is more, it shows they know they cannot defend their religious BS, and need to try to vilify any opposition.

Either we accept the leaders that God picks
There are so many things wrong with that pure stupidity it isn't funny.
Firstly, any god that is actively interfering with mankind is clearly an evil POS that no decent human being would ever worship. So why would we accept those leaders?
But an equally important issue, is how would you know it is the leader God picked?
There is no reason at all to believe the pile of shit you call a holy book is any way related to any god that does exist.
There are countless contradictory religions, meaning most must be wrong (and all can be).
There is no basis at all to claim any leader was picked by your imaginary evil POS.

Where was any of this when you guys said stuff like "Jesus can't help you out of this one, no matter how hard you pray to him. You've lost this argument, haven't you?"
It was this.
It was saying your appeal to religious BS wont help you. All it does is show that you know you are lying scum that has been lying the entire time.
YOU brought up being a believer in Jesus, when you were talking about wanting to murder someone for proving you wrong.

Actually, the argument was DOA by the time that you said that.
Yes, because you fled like the lying scum you are.

I already explained that the rules of buoyancy and propulsion don't work for that.
No, you baselessly asserted pure BS, fled from that assertion and then demonstrated that you want to murder those who prove you wrong.

You still haven't been able to explain what magic prevents rockets from working in space.

It's a no. Pressure from a greater volume simply diffuses to a lesser volume.
HOW?
Gas is made of matter.
What is causing this matter to accelerate? What is it pushing off to do so?

This is quite different from how a balloon behaves in air.
No, it is virtually identical, just slightly different speeds.

Propulsion works. Buoyancy does not work
And no one other than lying scum like you is pretending buoyancy is involved at all.

Therefore, leaving the atmosphere is impossible.
You have directly admitted propulsion works. That means they can leave the atmosphere.

Jesus gives us words to say. If not for his presence in our lives, we would literally be as intelligent as chimps, if even that.
And you are wrong yet again.
With Jesus in your life, you are less intelligent than a chimp.
You are so stupid or dishonest, you happily contradict yourself.
I don't need your imaginary POS to be intelligent.

Yet again, because you can't defend your delusional BS you just lie and throw out insults.

1. Why is the flag flapping in the wind?
It isn't.

In no atmosphere, the flag should droop.
Not when it has a rigid rod supporting it.

2. If light is coming from a real source, why are shadows not matching up?
They do. Your inability to understand geometry doesn't change that.

3. "The hills are alive with the Sound of Music." 10 years before NASA landing, they were able to make background layers depicting mountain land.
You being able to fake something really poorly, doesn't mean the footage from NASA is fake.

This is even less convincing than a film produced 10 years before.
Why?
Can you point out any part of it which is less convincing?
You are just desperate to dismiss it, because you hate reality.

Confess your deceit
The lying scum here is you. Confess your own deceit.

As long as you keep lying, Jesus can't help you.
Is that why he can't help you?

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #326 on: April 05, 2024, 02:59:24 AM »
the part you keep glossing over - when i made teh CGI comment, what post immediately preceded that comment?


can you answer a very specific question without jumping around?
how selective you are.
how very bulmba you are.


Which has nothing to do with you on April 4 claiming the individual only invoked “CGI” when they had to shift to “a stage” on March 31 to try to wrongly explain away the Apollo moon landing footage that was brought up on March 31.

So for you to bring up fake arguments concerning people not “listening” when you can’t follow the thread while you ignore certain posters ignore and dismiss all evidence and science the footage is real is pretty stupid. 

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Themightykabool

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #327 on: April 05, 2024, 03:09:40 AM »
which has EVERYTHING to do with my CGI comment
my comment was directly in and singularly in response to your one comment - ISS:CGI.
that's it
at no point did i say his ONLY response to ERVRYTHING is CGI.
you not only can't listen, you can't comprehend how Time works and you can't comprehend how Context works.

i didn't dismiss anything
you're an all or nothing extremist.
you're a fucktard.

happy friday.
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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #328 on: April 05, 2024, 03:19:17 AM »
which has EVERYTHING to do with my CGI comment


This from the 31 of march has nothing to do with CGI.

bulmabriefs144 reply on March 31,


You are correct, they didn't risk their lives for a lie. The entire thing was in a set. Show me the Apollo 11 video, and I will show you multiple shots where it fails the bullshit test.




Then when asked this,


He alreasy told you

" its cgi."

Hmm.  Were you “listening” Themightykabool?

Is that what bulmabriefs144 claimed regarding the Apollo space mission footage and active live broadcasts.


You just went total retard. 


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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: How can you dismiss all the space footage?
« Reply #329 on: April 05, 2024, 03:24:22 AM »


i didn't dismiss anything
you're an all or nothing extremist.
you're a fucktard.


How does asking this make me an extremist, “Hmm.  Were you “listening” Themightykabool?

Is that what bulmabriefs144 claimed regarding the Apollo space mission footage and active live broadcasts.”