War

Anyway. Fuckout the Retarvo.

Trump: Help, give us some weaponed drones.

Zelenski: You do not have any cards.

Trump's lies and evasions 

Trump: "We're winning, we won" 
Reality: The war is entirely under Iran's control 

Trump: It would be great if the Kurds join the war 
Reality: The Kurds didn't want to join the war. Iran preemptively bombed armed Kurdish groups 

Trump (correcting himself): I don't want the Kurds in the war 

Trump: I want to interfere in Iran's leadership election. It would be great if a peaceful leader comes to power in Iran 
Reality: The Iranians, whose leader was killed, are extremely motivated to elect the most anti-American candidate possible 

Trump: We have completely destroyed Iran's offensive and defensive capabilities 
Reality: American defense missile stockpiles, especially Patriots, have been seriously depleted. On the other hand, it turns out the missiles Iran used in the early days of the war were produced before 2014. As we wear down their defenses enough, they're using newer generation missiles with much higher success rates 

Trump: Iran apologized to neighboring countries and admitted defeat 
Reality: Iran warned neighboring countries that as long as there are US bases in their territories, these bases will be struck forever. They apologized for the situation (politely) by stating that air defense systems in those countries caused missiles to fall on residential areas

Trump: Iranians want to surrender.
Reality: The initiative in the war is entirely in Iran's hands. Netanyahu's whereabouts are unknown; he can't come to the surface.

I don't know how Trump's statements appear in America or other Western countries, but from Turkey—where both sides' statements and the state of the war can be clearly read—it looks like this:

"A clown show too pathetic to even be funny."

Where are all the people who hate Trump now?

The guy has two scoops of ice cream and everyone loses their minds. When he starts a war in Iran, most of you don't say anything.

I do, who are you talking about?

Although maybe, maybe it's time for these people who are in the US and hate Trump, or even those who like him but thought he wouldn't start a war, to do, like, anything whatsoever to stop this.

Although maybe, maybe it's time for these people who are in the US and hate Trump, or even those who like him but thought he wouldn't start a war, to do, like, anything whatsoever to stop this.

Do you still hate Tucker Carlson or has he earned your grudging respect?

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 08, 2026, 11:13:32 PM

Although maybe, maybe it's time for these people who are in the US and hate Trump, or even those who like him but thought he wouldn't start a war, to do, like, anything whatsoever to stop this.

Do you still hate Tucker Carlson or has he earned your grudging respect?

I hate Tucker Carlson and I know why he is doing all this, but I hate the liberal bastards who are not doing any journalism whatsoever leaving him to be one of the only mainstream US journalists willing to push back more than I hate him.

It is shit like this that I hate:

https://youtube.com/shorts/zwQm8myl2_s?is=U9zdh4I58s4p4ZOR

I guess at least she's not saying the war is a good thing. I think.

I hate Tucker Carlson and I know why he is doing all this, but I hate the liberal bastards who are not doing any journalism whatsoever leaving him to be one of the only mainstream US journalists willing to push back more than I hate him.

Ok thats pretty fair. Who would have thought twenty five years ago that you'd see more anti-war content and criticism of the republican neocon war mongers on Tucker Carlsons show than CNN.

What do you think Tuckers secret evil motive for not supporting the war or the republicans on this is?

CNN's motive for not pushing back seem much less clandestine, at least to me.

It is shit like this that I hate:

https://youtube.com/shorts/zwQm8myl2_s?is=U9zdh4I58s4p4ZOR

I guess at least she's not saying the war is a good thing. I think.

Not but it's that real slimy way where they may as well be.

Carlson's motive isn't secret. It's pretty obvious there's an audience of white nationalists who hate Israel because they have a perennial beef with Jews. You can't make me care about this shit.

CNN's motivations aren't that secret either. It's not like they were ever meaningfully anti-war for anything, they're always on board to cheer for or at best mildly criticize US interventionism, and they love Israel.  Maddow thinks the war is bad, apparently, but Israel and deep seated US war hawks had nothing to do with it! It's all the Gulf countries! Fuck off.

Maddow thinks the war is bad, apparently, but Israel and deep seated US war hawks had nothing to do with it! It's all the Gulf countries! Fuck off.

Yeah what a circus act, we agree on CNNs motives.

Carlson's motive isn't secret. It's pretty obvious there's an audience of white nationalists who hate Israel because they have a perennial beef with Jews. You can't make me care about this shit.

You think he's doing this for views?
He doesn’t need the views or the money and this comes at a personal cost to himself. Don't think he doesn't know the cost.

You have to recognise that God has changed Tuckers heart, it would take a devoted athiest and some mental gymnastics to claim that Tuckers conversion hasn't changed his heart.

You could still claim to be an athiest and recognise that Tucker has changed because he read the Bible and believes its promises. People who dont like Tucker often have only seen the soundbites and shorts. I did something like that with Ana and Cenk, who I can't help but like after hearing them speak at some length.

It doesn't matter that much to me if he's doing it for the views or if he believes it. I don't like his politics either way, and I don't get your weird religious angle on this, am I supposed to accept that nobody can change his mind, if he did, without divine intervention? And maybe he should reconsider his past responsibility, promoting Trump and his movement, in all this, because he played a huge role. 

I don't like Cenk and Kasparian either, I never did, and I don't watch them. Well maybe Cenk is alright,  Kasparian I don't believe has any political principles and she's just going with whatever she thinks will better fit her niche.

There's almost no good American professional political commentators, anywhere. I actually can't think of any I really like very much. Even the ones who temporarily say good things are typically confused careerists.

Where are all the people who hate Trump now?

The guy has two scoops of ice cream and everyone loses their minds. When he starts a war in Iran, most of you don't say anything.

That's a good observation. It seems that all these files and anti-Trump rhetoric were solely aimed at forcing him to attack Iran. And now they don't need to do anything—Trump's support has dropped to 20 percent. He's already guaranteed to go down in history as the most unsuccessful president in the midterm elections.

Where are all the people who hate Trump now?

The guy has two scoops of ice cream and everyone loses their minds. When he starts a war in Iran, most of you don't say anything.

Well, I've had my break.  Time to get back in.  Not that anyone even noticed I was gone. >_>


Anywho...

I went on a break from this toxic forum.  But now I'm back.

Where is everyone else?  Yelling 'I told you so' very loudly.  Trump has broken every vow he made and has done exactly what he claimed Biden and Kamala would do.




As for CNN:
They are (or will be once the merger goes though) owned by Trump.

No, really.  Its a bit round about way but Paramount is owned by a big Trump supporter.  So is his father.
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/12/media/david-ellison-trump-paramount-netflix-wbd

WB owns CNN.  Thus Paramount will own CNN.  Thus, through his apply, Trump will have control over CNN.

Neat, huh?



Anyway, how's the $100 oil going?

Missed you!

Missed you!

Aawww, thanks.

Quote from: disputeone on March 08, 2026, 09:48:29 PM

Where are all the people who hate Trump now?

The guy has two scoops of ice cream and everyone loses their minds. When he starts a war in Iran, most of you don't say anything.

Well, I've had my break.  Time to get back in.  Not that anyone even noticed I was gone. >_>


Anywho...

I went on a break from this toxic forum.  But now I'm back.

Where is everyone else?  Yelling 'I told you so' very loudly.  Trump has broken every vow he made and has done exactly what he claimed Biden and Kamala would do.




As for CNN:
They are (or will be once the merger goes though) owned by Trump.

No, really.  Its a bit round about way but Paramount is owned by a big Trump supporter.  So is his father.
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/12/media/david-ellison-trump-paramount-netflix-wbd

WB owns CNN.  Thus Paramount will own CNN.  Thus, through his apply, Trump will have control over CNN.

Neat, huh?



Anyway, how's the $100 oil going?

Get to the bad part.

PS:

Welcome back, motherfucker!

Quote from: Lorddave on March 09, 2026, 03:35:18 AM

Quote from: disputeone on March 08, 2026, 09:48:29 PM

Where are all the people who hate Trump now?

The guy has two scoops of ice cream and everyone loses their minds. When he starts a war in Iran, most of you don't say anything.

Well, I've had my break.  Time to get back in.  Not that anyone even noticed I was gone. >_>


Anywho...

I went on a break from this toxic forum.  But now I'm back.

Where is everyone else?  Yelling 'I told you so' very loudly.  Trump has broken every vow he made and has done exactly what he claimed Biden and Kamala would do.




As for CNN:
They are (or will be once the merger goes though) owned by Trump.

No, really.  Its a bit round about way but Paramount is owned by a big Trump supporter.  So is his father.
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/12/media/david-ellison-trump-paramount-netflix-wbd

WB owns CNN.  Thus Paramount will own CNN.  Thus, through his apply, Trump will have control over CNN.

Neat, huh?



Anyway, how's the $100 oil going?

Get to the bad part.

PS:

Welcome back, motherfucker!

You can't bash CNN as liberal media anymore, bitch.

You can't bash CNN as liberal media anymore, bitch.

Liberal is as liberal does.

Also, a box of liberal chocolates is not good life baggage.

Quote from: Lorddave on March 09, 2026, 11:30:21 AM

You can't bash CNN as liberal media anymore, bitch.

Liberal is as liberal does.

Also, a box of liberal chocolates is not good life baggage.

Not for long, it isn't.  Gonna be red fox news.

Not for long, it isn't.  Gonna be red fox news.

It's going to be Red MAGA Elephant Hard Man News For Men.

CNN has always been shit, I don't expect that part to change.

Nor I.

News these days is about views and entertainment, not boring facts.

It doesn't matter that much to me if he's doing it for the views or if he believes it. I don't like his politics either way, and I don't get your weird religious angle on this, am I supposed to accept that nobody can change his mind, if he did, without divine intervention? And maybe he should reconsider his past responsibility, promoting Trump and his movement, in all this, because he played a huge role. 

I don't like Cenk and Kasparian either, I never did, and I don't watch them. Well maybe Cenk is alright,  Kasparian I don't believe has any political principles and she's just going with whatever she thinks will better fit her niche.

There's almost no good American professional political commentators, anywhere. I actually can't think of any I really like very much. Even the ones who temporarily say good things are typically confused careerists.

Yeah I get being jaded.

I haven't said much about the war in Iran for the same reason I stopped posting about the Iranian protests. Once they cut off the internet it became impossible to know what is really going on. There's a shit ton of AI slop being passed around as real, or old videos, and other types of propaganda.

Trump's lies and evasions 

Trump: "We're winning, we won" 
Reality: The war is entirely under Iran's control 

Trump: It would be great if the Kurds join the war 
Reality: The Kurds didn't want to join the war. Iran preemptively bombed armed Kurdish groups 

Trump (correcting himself): I don't want the Kurds in the war 

Trump: I want to interfere in Iran's leadership election. It would be great if a peaceful leader comes to power in Iran 
Reality: The Iranians, whose leader was killed, are extremely motivated to elect the most anti-American candidate possible 

Trump: We have completely destroyed Iran's offensive and defensive capabilities 
Reality: American defense missile stockpiles, especially Patriots, have been seriously depleted. On the other hand, it turns out the missiles Iran used in the early days of the war were produced before 2014. As we wear down their defenses enough, they're using newer generation missiles with much higher success rates 

Trump: Iran apologized to neighboring countries and admitted defeat 
Reality: Iran warned neighboring countries that as long as there are US bases in their territories, these bases will be struck forever. They apologized for the situation (politely) by stating that air defense systems in those countries caused missiles to fall on residential areas

Trump: Iranians want to surrender.
Reality: The initiative in the war is entirely in Iran's hands. Netanyahu's whereabouts are unknown; he can't come to the surface.

I don't know how Trump's statements appear in America or other Western countries, but from Turkey—where both sides' statements and the state of the war can be clearly read—it looks like this:

"A clown show too pathetic to even be funny."

Stop being a normie!

If you climbed to the top of the Mountain like I did you would've seen that this world has lost its glory! And nearly everything is upside down! Except LOVE!

So the only way we can turn this world back to right side up is through a strong connection with Love! (GOD)

This world deserves Donald Trump! Its a positive thing that his like this. Because only someone like him who is upside down can sink this beast system, so that we can start a brand new story!

God is going to show His anger and Epic Fury! Just like the good ol' biblical times!

He can kill with a word.

And his word will carry death eternal.

He can kill with a word.

You're spoiling me. 

Enough with the Trump is gods messenger shit, what sort of a god would have a convicted felon, child molesting, lying, narcissist as his herald? Not a good one.

Trump is the dog wagged by the Israeli tail as far as Iran, and the Russian tail over Ukraine, he’s broken every promise he made to the American people, no more wars, peace, lower prices for food and fuel, the US is the only country whose footfall from holiday makers has dropped, to the tune of $41B, because who wants to visit a place where thugs in uniforms are liable to detain you for being foreign, or support a country that is trashing the world economy on a whim?

And the silence from the American’s here is either fear or realisation and shame of their complicity in the destruction of even a veneer of democracy.

Enough with the Trump is gods messenger shit, what sort of a god would have a convicted felon, child molesting, lying, narcissist as his herald? Not a good one.

Trump is the dog wagged by the Israeli tail as far as Iran, and the Russian tail over Ukraine, he’s broken every promise he made to the American people, no more wars, peace, lower prices for food and fuel, the US is the only country whose footfall from holiday makers has dropped, to the tune of $41B, because who wants to visit a place where thugs in uniforms are liable to detain you for being foreign, or support a country that is trashing the world economy on a whim?

And the silence from the American’s here is either fear or realisation and shame of their complicity in the destruction of even a veneer of democracy.

Have you READ the Bible?  God is ok with abuse, murdering children, marrying children, slavery, and genocide.  Trump is pretty on par with old testimate God: demand of sacrafices, constant praise, overreaction to insults, etc...


Also, Americans on here don't seem to be silent.  Are they?

It's raining in Tel Aviv. Do you like it, Torvo?