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« Reply #4320 on: January 05, 2026, 04:01:32 PM »
Question is...

How well would America's air defense do?  It hasn't really been tested.
The individual bits of kit have been tested in Ukraine lots of times.  Do you mean your defence on home soil?
Yes.


Canada been norading since the 70s.

I have no idea what that means.
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« Reply #4321 on: January 05, 2026, 04:08:18 PM »
Ok seriously, if Republicans go "I love Trump" then they all must be shot for collaboration with a dictator.

Can I also just point out quickly that this is the poster calling me a troll.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #4323 on: January 05, 2026, 05:04:15 PM »
Question is...

How well would America's air defense do?  It hasn't really been tested.
The individual bits of kit have been tested in Ukraine lots of times.  Do you mean your defence on home soil?
Yes.


Canada been norading since the 70s.

I have no idea what that means.

Norad

Oh
It was the 60s



The North American Aerospace Defense Command (commonly abbreviated to NORAD /ˈnɔːræd/ NΟR-ad; French: Commandement de la défense aérospatiale de l'Amérique du Nord; CDAAN) is a bi-national mutual defense organization in Canada and the United States.[4][5] Established 12 September 1957 as the North American Air Defense Command, NORAD is headquartered at Peterson Space Force Base in Colorado, which also serves as the headquarters of United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM).
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« Reply #4324 on: January 05, 2026, 09:45:35 PM »
Question is...

How well would America's air defense do?  It hasn't really been tested.
The individual bits of kit have been tested in Ukraine lots of times.  Do you mean your defence on home soil?
Yes.


Canada been norading since the 70s.

I have no idea what that means.

Norad

Oh
It was the 60s



The North American Aerospace Defense Command (commonly abbreviated to NORAD /ˈnɔːræd/ NΟR-ad; French: Commandement de la défense aérospatiale de l'Amérique du Nord; CDAAN) is a bi-national mutual defense organization in Canada and the United States.[4][5] Established 12 September 1957 as the North American Air Defense Command, NORAD is headquartered at Peterson Space Force Base in Colorado, which also serves as the headquarters of United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM).

I know what norad is.  But I didn't understand the norading.
What, has Canada been firing missiles into America without warning and I haven't heard about it?
Gone.

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disputeone

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« Reply #4325 on: January 05, 2026, 09:52:29 PM »
What, has Canada been firing missiles into America without warning and I haven't heard about it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb

I'm only joking.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #4326 on: January 06, 2026, 12:28:31 AM »
Also this is the poster lecturing me on morality.
And here you are, demonstrating your complete lack of it; where instead of even attempting a coherent argument, you just take a tiny snippet of what was said and take it entirely out of context.
Without the context, it is impossible to evaluate.
Am I calling a good, decent human being subhuman scum? Or am I calling subhuman scum, subhuman scum?

It would be like just taking a snippet of saying someone deserves to die, with no indication of who is being talked about. Are they a kind, caring person who has dedicated their lives to supporting others, or are they acting like Hitler and causing so much death and suffering?

Someone with morals would understand that, and not just present such worthless snippets.

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disputeone

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« Reply #4327 on: January 06, 2026, 01:54:43 AM »
subhuman scum

Yes Jack we get it.

or are they acting like Hitler and causing so much death and suffering?

Are you talking about Israel?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #4328 on: January 06, 2026, 02:13:35 AM »
Are you talking about Israel?
Given how much you seem to hate the Jews, I figure you would be a much better fit.
If not, Palestine.

But thanks for further proving the point, by entirely ignoring the argument, just like someone who is completely amoral would do.

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disputeone

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« Reply #4329 on: January 06, 2026, 02:32:54 AM »
Are you talking about Israel?
Given how much you seem to hate the Jews

I dont think pointing out the genocide Israel is currently conducting in Gaza is hating the Jews. I understand you disagree but I think that saying that anyone who has a problem with Israel's genocide campaign is a Jew hater is making people anti-semetic.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #4330 on: January 06, 2026, 05:53:54 AM »
Apparently the Venezuelan military launched drones around Miraflores, and then the Venezuelan military shot down the drones thinking it was a coup d'etat by Diosdado Cabello. Nobody really knows what actually happened, though. This is based on Venezuelans posting about it.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #4331 on: January 06, 2026, 11:39:41 AM »
I dont think pointing out the genocide Israel is currently
As if that is the only thing you are doing?
And let me guess, you think Hitler was just objecting to the Jews boycotting him?

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disputeone

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« Reply #4332 on: January 06, 2026, 01:28:41 PM »
I dont think pointing out the genocide Israel is currently conducting in Gaza is hating the Jews. I understand you disagree but I think that saying that anyone who has a problem with Israel's genocide campaign is a Jew hater is making people anti-semetic.
As if that is the only thing you are doing?

Yeah its certainly what's making you mad.

Are you admitting Israel is committing genocide in Palestine? I thought you were a denier and an Israel sympathiser.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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disputeone

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« Reply #4333 on: January 06, 2026, 01:38:36 PM »
I dont think pointing out the genocide Israel is currently conducting in Gaza is hating the Jews. I understand you disagree but I think that saying that anyone who has a problem with Israel's genocide campaign is a Jew hater is making people anti-semetic.
As if that is the only thing you are doing?

Yeah its certainly what's making you mad.

Are you admitting Israel is committing genocide in Palestine? I thought you were a genocide denier and an Israel sympathiser.

you think Hitler was just objecting to the Jews boycotting him?

If by objecting you mean genociding, then sure. Only one of us is trying to justify a genocide here.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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disputeone

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« Reply #4334 on: January 06, 2026, 01:47:06 PM »
Am I talking about genociding decent human beings? Or am I talking about genociding subhuman scum?

Hitler, probably.
Also, Jack Black and Yoav Gallant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
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The Gaza genocide is the ongoing, intentional, and systematic destruction of the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip carried out by Israel during the Gaza war. It encompasses mass killings, deliberate starvation, infliction of serious bodily and mental harm, and prevention of births. Other acts include blockading, destroying civilian infrastructure, destroying healthcare facilities, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, causing mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and destroying educational, religious, and cultural sites.[15] The genocide has been recognised by a United Nations special committee[16] and commission of inquiry,[15] the International Association of Genocide Scholars,[17][18] multiple human rights groups,[c] numerous genocide studies and international law scholars,[24][25] and other experts.

Experts affirm that statements by Israeli political and military leaders[113][114][115]—coupled with eliminationist media rhetoric and Israel's conduct in Gaza—indicate genocidal intent and incitement against the Palestinian people in Gaza.[115] Israeli officials and journalists[113][116][117] have made verbal statements that dehumanise Palestinians and incite, justify, or praise atrocities against them as a group.[118][119] Genocidal intent is also evidenced by the scale and systematic nature of actions that exceed any legitimate military objective[120][115]—including the extensive targeting of children,[55][115] widespread sexual violence,[121] destruction of cultural heritage,[122][123][124] and imposition of life-destroying conditions[125][126]—together with the persistence of these practices despite awareness of their catastrophic effects.[127][128]

"I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly."[e]

– Yoav Gallant, Minister of Defense of Israel, on 9 October 2023[129][130][131]
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #4335 on: January 06, 2026, 02:07:38 PM »
Yeah its certainly what's making you mad.
No, it's just the pathetic crap you keep repeating, so you can pretend your hatred of Jews is justified.

Only one of us is trying to justify a genocide here.
Yes, you.
You were the one trying to defend the holocaust.

Quote from: actually by disputeone, but lied and pretended it was jackblack
Am I talking about genociding decent human beings? Or am I talking about genociding subhuman scum?
And there you go further demonstrating your dishonesty by making up shit.
You really do like showing everyone you have no morals don't you?

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disputeone

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« Reply #4336 on: January 06, 2026, 02:13:53 PM »
Only one of us is trying to justify a genocide here.
Yes, you.
You were the one trying to defend the holocaust.

I was taking a hard-line stance against genocide actually. I said that if you try and justify the Palestinian genocide by Israel then you may as well try and justify the Jewish genocide by the Nazis, because they are both genocides.

Jack can you say for the record youre not a genocide denier and Israel sympathiser?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #4337 on: January 06, 2026, 11:06:28 PM »
I was taking a hard-line stance against genocide actually.
No, you weren't. You were trying to compare Israel responding to a terrorist attack against it, with Germany carrying out the Holocaust which you wanted to pretend is justified by a boycott of Germany.
Quite different.

If you were taking a hard-line stance, you wouldn't make such dishonest comparisons.

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disputeone

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« Reply #4338 on: January 06, 2026, 11:50:42 PM »
I was taking a hard-line stance against genocide actually.
No, you weren't. You were trying to compare Israel responding to a terrorist attack against it, with Germany carrying out the Holocaust

Yes the genocide in Palestine is very similar to the Holocaust. At least in the sense they are both genocides.

Jack can you say for the record youre not a genocide denier and Israel sympathiser?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #4339 on: January 07, 2026, 12:06:32 AM »
Yes the genocide in Palestine is very similar to the Holocaust.
The attack on Gaza is so vastly different the to Holocaust it isn't funny.
Only scum trying to minimise the Holocaust would pretend they are alike.

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disputeone

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« Reply #4340 on: January 07, 2026, 01:39:52 AM »
Yes the genocide in Palestine is very similar to the Holocaust.
The attack on Gaza is so vastly different the to Holocaust it isn't funny.

Because one is a genocide and the other is a genocide?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #4341 on: January 07, 2026, 05:26:15 AM »


1. Zelensky may soon be similarly “packaged” and arrested by Russia using a comparable method.


Russia is not capable of an operation like this.

Also, Z lives in a concrete underground maze. Not possible.
Where do you get the idea that Russia will carry out this operation alone? Of course, they will seek support from those most experienced in this field. We already know who they are, right? If you correct the R in "Rus" to an A and put it at the end, you get USA.  ;D
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« Reply #4342 on: January 07, 2026, 05:55:02 AM »
It’s astonishing how the topic somehow keeps circling back to the Holocaust. On the one hand, this legitimizes Israel’s genocide, while on the other, it normalizes the hardcore Zionist JackBlack.

A people’s suffering genocide does not give them the right to commit genocide against other nations. Moreover, those who did this to them were not Palestinians; they were Germans. However, public opinion polls conducted in Israel show that the public supports the killing of all Palestinians in the seized territories. I think this is due to the Israeli public being heavily poisoned by Zionist media.

Personally, I see Zionism as a harmful but not truly dangerous movement. Zionism is an unattainable utopia. Israel has never had such power and never will. From the outset, they do not have a population large enough to establish Qanon and settle there. This is completely impossible. These are fantasies. What is dangerous, however, is the willingness of the Israeli public and people like JackBlack to commit genocide against others. Regarding all that is happening, the world at large holds fairly similar views, and the Palestinian people are generally seen as the victims. However, since governments, the media, and globalist circles in general are closer to Zionism, the prevailing tendency is to legitimize Zionism and to tolerate Israel’s barbarity up to a certain point. In this context, the tolerance shown toward JackBlack should be evaluated within the same framework.

We can't even stop Israel among us, so how can we expect Israel to stop genociding Palestine?
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« Reply #4343 on: January 07, 2026, 12:23:57 PM »
Because one is a genocide and the other is a genocide?
Because one is a direct military response to a terrorist attack, waging war in the land that houses that foreign power that was attacking and wants to wipe out the Jews; the other was an unprovoked rounding up of innocent people to wilfully murder them under controlled conditions.

They are completely different.

On the one hand, this legitimizes Israel’s genocide
No, the Holocaust cannot be used to justify genocide.
You are setting up a strawman to attack.

it normalizes the hardcore Zionist JackBlack.
Except I'm not a zionist.
I think Judaism is morally bankrupt and abhorrent and has no place in civilised society, just like Christianity and Islam.
They are all cults of hatred, completely lacking morality.

JackBlack to commit genocide against others.
And where have I been committing genocide?
You sure do love spouting complete and utter garbage don't you?

However, since governments, the media, and globalist circles in general are closer to Zionism, the prevailing tendency is to legitimize Zionism and to tolerate Israel’s barbarity up to a certain point.
No, the issue is Hamas, a known terrorist organisation which is also the governing of power of Gaza, with a policy document based upon the complete destruction of Israel, waged war against Israel, committing acts of terrorism; and uses civilians as human shields.
Do you know what would make the best argument against Israel's barbarity? The people of Gaza standing up to Hamas and turning them over.

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« Reply #4344 on: January 07, 2026, 01:13:39 PM »
war crimes jackb
war crimes

no one's denying the terroristical attack from hamas, but that is a terror cell.
not one country vs another country
and definitely even it was one country vs another country, it is still war crimes in the operations that have been conducted in bombing hospitals, ambulances, violating ceasefires, denying UN inspection, etcetcetc

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disputeone

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« Reply #4345 on: January 07, 2026, 01:53:23 PM »
Because one is a genocide and the other is a genocide?
Because one is a direct military response to a terrorist attack,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
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The Gaza genocide is the ongoing, intentional, and systematic destruction of the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip carried out by Israel during the Gaza war. It encompasses mass killings, deliberate starvation, infliction of serious bodily and mental harm, and prevention of births. Other acts include blockading, destroying civilian infrastructure, destroying healthcare facilities, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, causing mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and destroying educational, religious, and cultural sites.[15] The genocide has been recognised by a United Nations special committee[16] and commission of inquiry,[15] the International Association of Genocide Scholars,[17][18] multiple human rights groups,[c] numerous genocide studies and international law scholars,[24][25] and other experts.

Experts affirm that statements by Israeli political and military leaders[113][114][115]—coupled with eliminationist media rhetoric and Israel's conduct in Gaza—indicate genocidal intent and incitement against the Palestinian people in Gaza.[115] Israeli officials and journalists[113][116][117] have made verbal statements that dehumanise Palestinians and incite, justify, or praise atrocities against them as a group.[118][119] Genocidal intent is also evidenced by the scale and systematic nature of actions that exceed any legitimate military objective[120][115]—including the extensive targeting of children,[55][115] widespread sexual violence,[121] destruction of cultural heritage,[122][123][124] and imposition of life-destroying conditions[125][126]—together with the persistence of these practices despite awareness of their catastrophic effects.[127][128]

"I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly."[e]

– Yoav Gallant, Minister of Defense of Israel, on 9 October 2023[129][130][131]
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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disputeone

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« Reply #4346 on: January 07, 2026, 01:56:50 PM »
A people’s suffering genocide does not give them the right to commit genocide against other nations.

Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #4347 on: January 07, 2026, 03:31:31 PM »
Because one is a genocide and the other is a genocide?
Because one is a direct military response to a terrorist attack,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
Continually spamming the same crap doesn't change the fact that the military action in Gaza is a direct response to a terrorist attack by the governing body of Gaza.
That alone makes it incomparable to things like the Holocaust, even if you want to claim it is genocide.

Regardless of if it is genocide or not, it is still incomparable.
And trying to compare them is just you belittling the holocaust and defending it.

Not surprising given how much you hate Jews.

Are the Jews rounding up Palestinians, taking them to camps and gassing them in showers? NO!

Even just look at some of the pathetic crap your useless website is appealing to (and no, insaneleftpedia is not unbiased by any stretch of the imagination, all it takes is looking at their policy on trans people to see that).
Blockading is not genocide.
In order for it to be genocide, you need to show intent. And that is incredibly difficult to show from acts.
Blockading, formally known as sieging is a valid military tactic to use against a target location.
This does not indicate genocidal intent. It might indicate that you don't value the people there, but that alone does not indicate genocide.
It is a valid military tactic to force the enemy to surrender or die.

Likewise, not caring about collateral damage does not indicate genocidal intent.
And that includes intentionally carrying out actions against military targets when they are in their homes and less defended rather than in more heavily defended military locations.

If Israel really wanted to wipe out the Palestinians, why are so many still alive?
It would be incredibly easy for them to go through and kill everyone they see, to destroy every aid camp and every location known to house any Palestinians. Yet they don't.
Compare that to Nazi Germany, where every Jew they could get their hands on was imprisoned or killed.

Even the pathetic quote you are appealing to, taken out of context, is entirely useless. Who are the human animals they are referring to?
Are they referring to all Palestinians, or just Hamas and their supporters who want to wipe out Israel?

If you would like some more comparisons, the intentional, wilful bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed somewhere between 140 000 and 200 000 Japanese civilians. (note: this is over twice the number of people killed from your alleged genocide.)
This was intentional, wilful destruction of a populated civilian area.
Does that mean the US committed genocide against Japan?
NO!
For the simple reason that it lacked the intent to wipe out the Japanese.

In countless medieval battles, locations were sieged. They were cut off from the outside, receiving no support from outside, so people inside could easily starve. Does that make it genocide?
NO!
For the simple reason that it lacked the intent to wipe out the inhabitants.
Even though it is intentionally causing famine and starvation, it is not genocide, because of the intent of the action.

Likewise, even if Israel completely cut off Gaza from the rest of the world, denying all supplies including aid; and carried out bombings without caring about collateral damage; that still doesn't make it genocide, no matter how many pathetic emotional appeals you want to make.

If you want it to be genocide, what you need is the vast majority of Gaza to rise up against Hamas and hand them over to Israel, and then have Israel continue.
While Israel is not rounding up everyone to kill, and Hamas is still in Gaza, then unless you can actually show intention to wipe out all Palestinians, it isn't genocide.

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« Reply #4348 on: January 07, 2026, 03:37:49 PM »
Continually spamming the same crap doesn't change the fact that the genocide in Gaza is a direct response to a terrorist attack by the governing body of Gaza.

Ok sure i just dont think genocide is a reasonable response.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
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The Gaza genocide is the ongoing, intentional, and systematic destruction of the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip carried out by Israel during the Gaza war. It encompasses mass killings, deliberate starvation, infliction of serious bodily and mental harm, and prevention of births. Other acts include blockading, destroying civilian infrastructure, destroying healthcare facilities, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, causing mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and destroying educational, religious, and cultural sites.[15] The genocide has been recognised by a United Nations special committee[16] and commission of inquiry,[15] the International Association of Genocide Scholars,[17][18] multiple human rights groups,[c] numerous genocide studies and international law scholars,[24][25] and other experts.

Experts affirm that statements by Israeli political and military leaders[113][114][115]—coupled with eliminationist media rhetoric and Israel's conduct in Gaza—indicate genocidal intent and incitement against the Palestinian people in Gaza.[115] Israeli officials and journalists[113][116][117] have made verbal statements that dehumanise Palestinians and incite, justify, or praise atrocities against them as a group.[118][119] Genocidal intent is also evidenced by the scale and systematic nature of actions that exceed any legitimate military objective[120][115]—including the extensive targeting of children,[55][115] widespread sexual violence,[121] destruction of cultural heritage,[122][123][124] and imposition of life-destroying conditions[125][126]—together with the persistence of these practices despite awareness of their catastrophic effects.[127][128]

"I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly."[e]

– Yoav Gallant, Minister of Defense of Israel, on 9 October 2023[129][130][131]
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #4349 on: January 07, 2026, 04:01:08 PM »
Because one is a genocide and the other is a genocide?
Because one is a direct military response to a terrorist attack,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
Continually spamming the same crap doesn't change the fact that the military action in Gaza is a direct response to a terrorist attack by the governing body of Gaza.
That alone makes it incomparable to things like the Holocaust, even if you want to claim it is genocide.
Yes, Israel reacted to a terrorist attack.  The thing is that some would say (and are saying) that it's a disproportionate over reaction.  Yes, Hamas is a terrorist organization that should be removed as a threat.  However, leveling the entirety of Gaza City, including hospitals and other civilian infrastructure isn't the way to do it.  If anything, it probably does more to perpetuate generations of resentment and radicalize that many more people against Israel.
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