War

Quote from: markjo on January 04, 2026, 10:19:45 PM

Why don’t you stop pretending that usury has anything to do with why Trump invaded Venezuela?

Why dont you stop pretending to be stupid. Every single leader who has shunned the international financial system of usury has been invaded or deposed.

Yes, Trump made that very clear in his justification. Narco terrorism and stolen oil had nothing to do with his decision to invade.

Can I also just point out how hilarious it is, that not only have Dave and Torve put aside their differences to defend usury, Markjo is now holding up President Trump as some kind of pillar of truth.

Do you think we invaded Iraq because we thought they had WMDs? Be honest.

Palestinians attack Israel = genocide.
Jews declare war on Germany = genocide.

I take it with this you recognise that there is no honest connection to Venuzela, and you are now just going on your anti-Jew rants?

Even if we accept your pathetic garbage, there is quite a big difference to directly attacking the territory of those who committed acts of terrorism against you, and carrying out genocide against a group wherever you can get your hands on them.

The holocaust started before 1933?
Are you quite sure it didnt start in 1941?

My bad, misread the date.
Still, the Nazi parties outright racism still predates it.
And it isn't even a declaration of war. It is a newspaper headline.
Where is the actual attack?
No where.

Instead, it is suggesting to not buy goods from Germany and companies owned by Germans.

It is just you showing you hatred of Jews.

We get it, you are scum that wants to wipe them from existence.
But it just shows how horrible you are.

Same as with all price controls. If you think you know better than the market then you are the dumbest guy around.

It has nothing at all to do with the market, but the rich and powerful extorting the poor.

And even price control is often not about the market, it is again about stopping the rich and powerful from exploiting the poor.
Especially with anti-competitive practices, and setting up massive barriers to entry.

I guess you also oppose ideas like minimum wage, and think that the poor should be happy with whatever scraps they get; allowing the "market" to control it?

And I'm done with D1's stupid troll bit.

you are now just going on your anti-Jew rants?

Checkmate.

This is why Gen Z thinks the holocaust is a funny joke. Because Jack, after vociferously defending Israel's genocide for the last ten posts in this thread, refusing to even acknowledge its happening, is about to clutch his pearls and talk about how bad the holocaust was and how we should never make light of it. How it was uniquely evil and how anyone who refuses to acknowledge it happened should be put in jail.

All while he makes excuses for and refuses to acknowlege the most documented genocide in history. The Jewish Israeli genocide of Arab Palestinians.

Dont believe me, watch.
You guys can go back to talking about Venezuela now.

Jack, I'd advise you to stick to what youre good at. Debunking the flat earth.

Murphy mocks people's sense of justice. While NPCs do everything he says, the attitude of RPCs is a matter of curiosity.

Global powers are still using NASA to generate illicit money, and with that, the US has orchestrated coups and political assassinations in over a hundred countries worldwide. I've explained this many times before. And this is now acknowledged by US government spokespeople as well. Except for the part about NASA.

Despite everything, the American people live in better conditions than the rest of the world. This isn't because the American deep state and global powers care about the American people. It's because they want to maintain their power by securing the support of their own people for American barbarism. And in this way, they can bully the rest of the world.

And guess what will happen to the American people when they're done with the rest of the world? They're going from easy to difficult. Everyone's in line here, all countries and peoples. And the American people are somewhere in there too.

Alright, now a bit of intelligence information. Ahem, you know, that kind of stuff. This website works jointly with the CIA, FBI and Fvey. Thanks to that, we can access some information as well thanks to those idiots. Haha.

Russia and China were informed before the operation, and negotiations took place. These reactions are completely staged. One country abducting another country’s leader is not acceptable under international law. Yet they accepted it. It’s obvious this was the result of bargaining and an agreement.

1. Zelensky may soon be similarly “packaged” and arrested by Russia using a comparable method.
2. China may attack Taiwan.

Take note of what I’m saying. When these things happen in the near future, you might remember that I wrote this.

Despite everything, the American people live in better conditions than the rest of the world.

They do not.

Much of the world, maybe, but not all of it.

1. Zelensky may soon be similarly “packaged” and arrested by Russia using a comparable method.
2. China may attack Taiwan.

Take note of what I’m saying. When these things happen in the near future, you might remember that I wrote this.

I mean... yeah.  This is obvious.  Trump won't stop it.  He might even help.

Also note the US will invade other nations in South and Central America.

Checkmate.

You mean you have checkmated yourself?
Especially with how morally bankrupt your comparisons are.

Global powers are still using NASA to generate illicit money

No, that would be the US military, not NASA.

Despite everything, the American people live in better conditions than the rest of the world.

No.
Some Americans live in better conditions than the rest of the world, primarily the rich ones.
The poorer ones live vastly worse than so many countries it isn't funny.

Alright, now a bit of intelligence information.

That would be a first from you, but it seems that day is still yet to come.

This website works jointly with the CIA, FBI and Fvey.

Based on what?
Your desperate need to pretend anyone who doesn't immediately silence people who think differently to you must be controlled by the government?

One country abducting another country’s leader is not acceptable under international law. Yet they accepted it.

Lots of things aren't acceptable under international law.
The issue is stopping them.
Neither China nor Russia want all out war with the US.

Why bother bringing Ukraine into it, other than as an example of what has been going on for years which is a violation of international law?

1. Zelensky may soon be similarly “packaged” and arrested by Russia using a comparable method.

Russia is not capable of an operation like this.

Also, Z lives in a concrete underground maze. Not possible.

2. China may attack Taiwan.

Fat chance. The PLA leadership is decimated by political infighting. It would be like when Stalin purged the red army and then ordered it to attack Finland. Optimistic.

I mean... yeah.  This is obvious.  Trump won't stop it.  He might even help.

Also note the US will invade other nations in South and Central America.

I don’t remember whether I’ve warned you about this before, but please don’t split my texts. It’s a primitive behavioral pattern like two boxers throwing punches at each other. My writing is built around a central idea, and if you’re going to respond, I’d prefer you address that. In general, I reply to your writing by staying true to its main idea, and I think I have the right to expect the same from you. Otherwise, you’d be no different from cheap trolls, and I’d have to block you like jackblack, or ignore what you write like I did with Torve. But you’re not that worthless yet, don’t lower your own value.

It looks like Trump may also be preparing to strike Cuba and Colombia, but I think all of this is planned and that he won’t do it for now. At the very least, he’ll wait for progress on either the Zelensky or Taiwan issue and only then make his next move. In chess, no one lets you make two moves in a row, especially if your opponents are alert enough. And I think Putin and Xi are alert enough.

For a moment, imagine the talks between the United States and Russia. Without doing this, you cannot understand what is happening in the world. They come together as two states with the world’s most powerful militaries, not as one being the world’s leader and the other a weak country begging for mercy. They sit at the table as equals. And what is discussed at that table is not how they will block each other or how they will harm each other less, but rather why and where they might refrain from acting against each other’s interests.

This is how classic political bargaining works: which Russian interest can the United States tolerate, and in return, which American interest can Russia tolerate? Under normal circumstances, this might look like a deal weighted as two parts U.S. to one part Russia. But since China is also involved, it turns into a three way bargaining structure: two parts U.S., one part Russia, and one part China, or China is incorporated into the bargain in this way.

Once you understand this reality, you can foresee that after the United States overthrows Maduro, either China or Russia will carry out an action of comparable scale for their own interests. Since China would be the country most negatively affected by a U.S. intervention in Venezuela, it is likely that China could use this grievance to legitimize a Taiwan intervention in the eyes of the United States. On the other hand, Russia’s move against Zelensky has also become legitimized.

So which one will happen first?

Because the United States carried out this attack partly to deter China, a Chinese move on Taiwan at this stage would look like a conscious reaction by China, and Trump would not achieve the political victory he seeks. For the perception of victory to be maintained, Russia needs to move first. In that scenario, China appears unable to respond to Trump’s Maduro move. After Russia’s action, Trump gains the right to make a second move and that move is Cuba, which is a country closer to Russia. After that, a Taiwan move would come from China, which has so far remained more distant from the immediate sequence.

Therefore, if we place the upcoming events in chronological order:

1. Zelensky
2. Cuba
3. Taiwan

Any questions? (From non-trolls.)

Quote from: disputeone on January 04, 2026, 09:27:03 PM

These are countries, not leaders.
Plus Japan charges up to 20% interest on loans. So they havent banned usury, they do have better laws than most.

What was the interest rate under Maduro?

That's the thing, he didn't actually ban usury - it's just something he put in some emergency decrees in 2013 and seems to have never been mentioned again, or even ever defined.  The economy collapsed a year later and the country went into a hyperinflationary spiral, peaking at something like 1,000,000% in 2018.

Nobody is lending anyone anything at any interest rates during hyperinflation as the value of your loan rapidly reduces to nothing.

Even last year, which had their lowest inflation since he got to power, it was running at 48% for the year.  That means at the very minimum interest you'd need to be charging at least 48% on any loan, otherwise you're losing money.

D1, if you think he really did ban usury* can you take us through the legislation at what interest rates were capped at?  Also, how that worked in hyperinflation?


*which seems to just mean "interest rates, but Jewish"

Quote from: Lorddave on January 05, 2026, 12:41:04 AM

I mean... yeah.  This is obvious.  Trump won't stop it.  He might even help.

Also note the US will invade other nations in South and Central America.

I don’t remember whether I’ve warned you about this before, but please don’t split my texts. It’s a primitive behavioral pattern like two boxers throwing punches at each other. My writing is built around a central idea, and if you’re going to respond, I’d prefer you address that. In general, I reply to your writing by staying true to its main idea, and I think I have the right to expect the same from you. Otherwise, you’d be no different from cheap trolls, and I’d have to block you like jackblack, or ignore what you write like I did with Torve. But you’re not that worthless yet, don’t lower your own value.

It looks like Trump may also be preparing to strike Cuba and Colombia, but I think all of this is planned and that he won’t do it for now. At the very least, he’ll wait for progress on either the Zelensky or Taiwan issue and only then make his next move. In chess, no one lets you make two moves in a row, especially if your opponents are alert enough. And I think Putin and Xi are alert enough.

I find it easier to adress the main points I wish to comment on, but very well.  I will try to remember this when commenting on your posts.

Good talk.

Hahahahah

It looks like Trump may also be preparing to strike Cuba and Colombia, but I think all of this is planned and that he won’t do it for now. At the very least, he’ll wait for progress on either the Zelensky or Taiwan issue and only then make his next move. In chess, no one lets you make two moves in a row, especially if your opponents are alert enough. And I think Putin and Xi are alert enough.

Dont kid yourselves that anything is trumps plan.
He installs handpicked judges
He signs EO he has no idea whata on them.
These are shadow govt long gmae plans

I bet all the countries that bought China's air defense systems are a little bit annoyed right now.

I bet all the countries that bought China's air defense systems are a little bit annoyed right now.

Pakistan was very happy with their performance in their little show down with India.  Lets face it, most countries buying Chinese radars  aren't doing so because they hope to go toe-to-toe with the USA.

I don't think it is that clear whether they "failed" as such - this was fantastically corrupt military getting massive multi-spectrum sucker punch from an overwhelming force.   It looks like America hit the power network with cyber attacks, meaning many of the radars perhaps didn't have power when the force arrived.  There was a lot of stuff going on, much of which we might never hear about, especially all their intelligence assets who are probably right now moving into their new Miami condos.

I've also read that this is very much last gen kit and even if it wasn't, it shows how defence networks are only as good as their weakest point - of which Venezuela will have lots....

Question is...

How well would America's air defense do?  It hasn't really been tested.

Tested every time hamas throws rockets at israel

Question is...

How well would America's air defense do?  It hasn't really been tested.

The individual bits of kit have been tested in Ukraine lots of times.  Do you mean your defence on home soil?

In general, I reply to your writing by staying true to its main idea, and I think I have the right to expect the same from you.

You have repeatedly ignored or misrepresented what others have said, even when following your pathetic demands.
So no, you don't have the right to expect people to not split your posts.
They have the right to split your posts, to call out your BS with each point.

And what makes your response even more hypocritical, is that you split his post.

The simple fact is, when you are making multiple separate arguments, it is far easier to split your posts to address each argument separately.
And that is likely the reason why you don't want it split, to try to avoid that refutation.

If you want people to respect your ridiculous demands, you need to show them respect as well, which you refuse to do so.

And complaining about it makes you a cheap troll.

In chess, no one lets you make two moves in a row

This isn't chess. It's more like a RTS, where you can repeatedly attack, and can even carry out multiple attacks at the same time.

For a moment, imagine the talks between the United States and Russia. Without doing this, you cannot understand what is happening in the world.

So indulge in a complete fantasy to pretend your fantasy is real?

Once you understand this reality, you can foresee that after the United States overthrows Maduro, either China or Russia will carry out an action of comparable scale for their own interests.

Again, this requires ignoring the reality that Russia is already trying this, and even China is trying with more minor things.

it is likely that China could use this grievance to legitimize a Taiwan intervention in the eyes of the United States. On the other hand, Russia’s move against Zelensky has also become legitimized.

No, it really doesn't.
They are fundamentally different situations.
Even if they were comparable, the US doing something illegitimate doesn't magically make other illegitimate actions legitimate.

Therefore, if we place the upcoming events in chronological order:
1. Zelensky

Again, if Russia could, they already would have.
They can't, because they aren't powerful enough to do it in a way which wouldn't result in massive retaliation by other powers.

Any questions? (From non-trolls.)

So that rules you out.

Quote from: Lorddave on January 05, 2026, 10:33:16 AM

Question is...

How well would America's air defense do?  It hasn't really been tested.

The individual bits of kit have been tested in Ukraine lots of times.  Do you mean your defence on home soil?

Yes.

We are protected by the wings of eagles.

*which seems to just mean "interest rates, but Jewish"

In a sense because Christianity and Islam both ban it but Judaism allows it. You got so sensitive I was criticising the international financial system you had to deploy Jack and Wise to argue with each other about......
honestly these LLMs make less and less sense as the years go on.

Quote from: JimmyTheLobster on January 05, 2026, 11:55:07 AM

Quote from: Lorddave on January 05, 2026, 10:33:16 AM

Question is...

How well would America's air defense do?  It hasn't really been tested.

The individual bits of kit have been tested in Ukraine lots of times.  Do you mean your defence on home soil?

Yes.

Canada been norading since the 70s.