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« Reply #3930 on: June 16, 2025, 03:48:52 PM »
Also, once more.

I hope if / when "Iran" attacks the US, in their upcoming terror attack against the US that secures US involvement in the war. That you guys are as understanding as you were in 2001 as to why we need another 20 years of war in the middle east, another refugee crisis in Europe and another 20 trillion dollars spent, for Israel.

Remember the lessons we learned on 9/11.
It only took twenty years of war, twenty trillion dollars and three hundred thousand civilian casualties to prevent another terrorist attack like 9/11.

Really, a small price to pay.
If we don't attack the Muslims in Iran.
They will attack us at home.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #3931 on: June 16, 2025, 04:47:52 PM »
https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1934375883332046933

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Everyone is finding out who are real America First/MAGA and who were fake and just said it bc it was popular.

Unfortunately the list of fakes are becoming quite long and exposed themselves quickly.

Anyone slobbering for the U.S. to become fully involved in the Israel/Iran war is not America First/MAGA.

Wishing for murder of innocent people is disgusting.

We are sick and tired of foreign wars.  All of them.

And this one will quickly engulf the Middle East, BRICS, and NATO as countries are required to take a side.

Real America First/MAGA wants world peace for all people and doesn’t want our military killed and forever injured physically and mentally.

We love our U.S. military and love them helping to secure our borders and our cities for the defense of OUR PEOPLE AND OUR COUNTRY.

They are our friends, spouses, cousins, nieces, nephews, sisters, brothers, sons, and daughters.

We have spent TRILLIONS in the Middle East and we have dealt with the aftermath of death, blown apart bodies, never ending suicides, and disabling PTSD.

All because they told us propaganda as to why we must sacrifice our own to defend some other country’s borders and some other country’s borders.

I don’t want to see Israel bombed or Iran bombed or Gaza bombed.

I don’t want to see Ukraine bombed or Russia bombed.

And we do NOT want to be involved or required to pay for ANY OF IT!!!

We are $36+ TRILLION in debt and have mountains of our own problems.

We have giant planks sticking out of our own eyes while we complain about splinters in other’s eyes.

Every country involved and all over the world can be happy, successful, and rich if we all work together and seek peace and prosperity.

Taking this position is NOT antisemitic.

It’s rational, sane, and loving toward all people.

Taking this position of peace and prosperity for all is not isolationism, it leads to GREAT trade deals and GREAT economies that help ALL PEOPLE.

It’s what many Americans voted for in 2024.

America First!
America First!!
America First!!!

That is how we Make America Great Again!!!!!

Blessed are the peacemakers
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« Reply #3932 on: June 16, 2025, 06:04:41 PM »
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This is not our war.

But if it were, Congress must decide such matters according to our Constitution.

I’m introducing a bipartisan War Powers Resolution tomorrow to prohibit our involvement.

I invite all members of Congress to cosponsor this resolution.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #3933 on: June 16, 2025, 07:08:54 PM »
iran's been kililng their girls much like the taliban in afghanistan.

however,

israel being the deliverer of justice really has no moral high ground.



and besides the point,

if china backs someone we're brinking WWIII
does turkey interjects itself and brings EU-NATO to answer the call?


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« Reply #3934 on: June 16, 2025, 08:01:54 PM »
https://www.wionews.com/world/israel-iran-war-netanyahu-says-us-must-back-israel-or-face-iran-s-wrath-next-1750096841984

Is that a threat?
New York again huh.

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Today, it’s Tel Aviv. Tomorrow, it’s New York.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #3935 on: June 16, 2025, 09:04:54 PM »
believing israel is as foolish as beliving Fucker Farlson

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« Reply #3936 on: June 16, 2025, 09:06:02 PM »
Do you take issue with Tuckers stance that the US shouldn't get involved in the war?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #3937 on: June 16, 2025, 09:08:33 PM »
that asswipe went to turkey and russia and sucked their dicks and assholes.


he also has a history of hiring white sooopremcaist when he was at Fox.



you tell me why he deserves respect

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« Reply #3938 on: June 16, 2025, 09:13:27 PM »
Tucker also thinks the US shouldn't get involved in the war against Rusia.

I know you take issue with that.

Get off the altar you've built to worship yourself on.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #3939 on: June 17, 2025, 01:26:34 AM »
Our garbage government is even worse on the issue than the Turkish one right now...

Ah, the "ace to the bottom of geopolitics where even betrayal has rankings. Let’s dissect this circus:

From Palestine solidarity to Israeli bootlicking? Classic "small state realism." Your leaders trade principles for hoped-up NATO brownie points. The West only cares about Greece as a border guard for refugees and a potential war proxy against Turkey.

My government barks about Gaza yet Turkey Israel trade hit $9.7B in 2023 (TUIK). Erdogan’s "anti Zionist" theatrics are just cover for deeper collusion.

You’re right no one respects a lapdog. But here’s the kicker: neither NATO nor the EU will ever see Greece or Turkey as equals. We’re just expendable pawns in their resource wars.

Greece: Sold out for imaginary "security."

Turkey: Islamist rhetoric masking capitalist complicity.

Result: Both nations’ elites profit while Palestinians die.
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« Reply #3940 on: June 17, 2025, 01:30:11 AM »
It's just because Iran is not in a good position to escalate this war. That's the whole reason Israel attacked in the first place. But they can't do nothing either, and Israel won't let up because they're sure the US will join them eventually. But maybe it doesn't have to be that way.
Ah, the "strategic restraint" dance—where everyone pretends they’re not scared while calculating their next move. Let’s break it down:

Iran’s "Retaliation" Theater:

Fires 300+ missiles, kills 20 Israelis.

Then immediately folds: "We’re done… unless you hit us again!"

Translation: "We can’t afford a real war, but our people demand a show."

Israel’s Bluff:

Netanyahu wanted this strike. Why?

1- Distraction: Shift global focus from Gaza’s genocide to "Iranian aggression."
2- US Lifeline: Provoke Iran just enough to guarantee more American weapons & $$$.

Risk? Zero. The U.S. vetoes every UN ceasefire, funds every bomb.

The Real Power Dynamic:

Iran’s economy is collapsing (50% inflation, currency in freefall).

Israel’s economy is NATO-subsidized ($3.8B/year U.S. military aid).

Result: Iran can’t escalate; Israel won’t stop.

The Cold Truth:

Iran’s leaders care more about regime survival than Palestine.

Israel’s leaders need perpetual war to stay in power.

The U.S.? Happy to fuel both sides—war is profitable.

The only "chosen" thing here is Western imperialism’s chosen puppets.
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« Reply #3941 on: June 17, 2025, 01:31:23 AM »
Our garbage government is even worse on the issue than the Turkish one right now...

Ah, the "ace to the bottom of geopolitics where even betrayal has rankings. Let’s dissect this circus:

From Palestine solidarity to Israeli bootlicking? Classic "small state realism." Your leaders trade principles for hoped-up NATO brownie points. The West only cares about Greece as a border guard for refugees and a potential war proxy against Turkey.

My government barks about Gaza yet Turkey Israel trade hit $9.7B in 2023 (TUIK). Erdogan’s "anti Zionist" theatrics are just cover for deeper collusion.

You’re right no one respects a lapdog. But here’s the kicker: neither NATO nor the EU will ever see Greece or Turkey as equals. We’re just expendable pawns in their resource wars.

Greece: Sold out for imaginary "security."

Turkey: Islamist rhetoric masking capitalist complicity.

Result: Both nations’ elites profit while Palestinians die.

Hey wise, I preferred it when you didn't use AI to "enhance" your writing. I think you wrote better than it! That said, I agree with you.
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« Reply #3942 on: June 17, 2025, 02:30:50 AM »
MAGA believes in peace? Hahahahahah!!!
Cute.
Next you're gonna tell me they love their gay neighbors.

MAGA and America first just want to be alone.  But they're short sighted.  They think 'if we don't do anything its fine' until they're bitching about gas prices because the war makes oil exports impossible and the price jumps.

I believe we shouldn't help those who attack first but those who defend themselves.

I believe that Iran is full of assholes we put in charge.
I believe nukes should be controlled by the UN only.  Not Americans, not Russians, not India or Pakistan, but everyone all at once.
Gone.

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Re: War
« Reply #3943 on: June 17, 2025, 03:55:39 AM »
Hey wise, I preferred it when you didn't use AI to "enhance" your writing. I think you wrote better than it! That said, I agree with you.

Ah dude, so it seems the issue isn’t how the words are written, but what they say. But suit yourself sometimes a thought needs to be woven carefully, other times a fact must land like a slap. If AI is just a tool, then consider this: we’re wielding it to jam a stick in capitalism’s gears. After all, when you speak the language of numbers, hypocrisy loses its smirk, doesn’t it?

No retreat here: We’ll champion intellectual honesty and stand with the people this system treats as disposable. As long as the message hits hard the rest is just details.

Sure, I could walk alone but why would I, when a motorcycle’s faster?
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« Reply #3944 on: June 17, 2025, 08:50:11 AM »
Tucker also thinks the US shouldn't get involved in the war against Rusia.

I know you take issue with that.

Get off the altar you've built to worship yourself on.


"tucker
thnks
us
shouldn't
war
with
russia"



maybe you missed the part where he sucked the dick of putin then used his bowtie to wipe putin's asshole?

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« Reply #3945 on: June 17, 2025, 11:36:34 AM »
Dear Mr Kabool, pls stop talking about Putin's asshole.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #3946 on: June 17, 2025, 11:58:00 AM »
I agree.  It’s arsehole.

Asshole is one Americanism that just sounds totally wrong to my ears.  Math is the other.

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« Reply #3947 on: June 17, 2025, 12:07:50 PM »
i didn't say anything
dispo was talking about how much he loved it

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« Reply #3948 on: June 17, 2025, 12:20:58 PM »

I believe nukes should be controlled by the UN only.  Not Americans, not Russians, not India or Pakistan, but everyone all at once.

It’s a nice dream.  Ideally I’d like to see the vast majority of all armed forces basically under UN control.  The blue hats should be the world police, not Team America, and certainly not Team Russia or Team China.

It will never happen though.

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« Reply #3949 on: June 17, 2025, 04:32:49 PM »
Kabool get off the altar you've made to worship yourself on.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-throws-gabbard-under-the-bus-over-iran-nuke-claim-i-don-t-care-what-she-said/ar-AA1GTdnz
Why would you hire someone to be the director of national intelligence if you won't listen to them?




Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #3950 on: June 18, 2025, 10:57:17 AM »
Haha.  I use the Theoden and Wormtongue analogy a lot these days.  Not entirely sure about Tucker Carlson as Gandalf though.

Sadly I don’t really see Gandalf or Aragorn anywhere in all this.  Just a lot of Grimas, Theodens and the occasional Saruman.

Could be a case for Trump as Denethor as well.
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« Reply #3951 on: June 18, 2025, 12:55:21 PM »
Kim Jong Un is a man among men. After he has warned the globalists to stop feeding troll Netenyahu, Trump has decided to bring Amerikans back from Israel. Trump, he knows Kim, yeah! 😁
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« Reply #3952 on: June 18, 2025, 01:34:45 PM »
Ah, of course.  Kim Jong Un is the Aragorn!

“From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.”


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« Reply #3953 on: June 18, 2025, 03:47:41 PM »
Haha.  I use the Theoden and Wormtongue analogy a lot these days.  Not entirely sure about Tucker Carlson as Gandalf though.

Do you disagree with Tucker that the US should stay out of the war?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #3954 on: June 18, 2025, 06:43:06 PM »
Tucker really cooked Ted Cruz but large parts of their argument could have been avoided if it was clarified that Israel is Jacob, God gave Jacob a new name and called him Israel. I was just a little disappointed that Tucker wasn't ready with that.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #3955 on: June 18, 2025, 11:14:23 PM »
Haha.  I use the Theoden and Wormtongue analogy a lot these days.  Not entirely sure about Tucker Carlson as Gandalf though.

Do you disagree with Tucker that the US should stay out of the war?

Yes, stay out at least.  Try to stop it ideally.  I’ll give him a Boromir, maybe. 

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disputeone

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« Reply #3956 on: June 18, 2025, 11:39:01 PM »
Stop it by bombing Iran?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #3957 on: June 19, 2025, 02:40:33 AM »
Do you disagree with Tucker that the US should stay out of the war?
And related to that, do you think anyone who claims to be a refugee from there should just be rejected and told to go back?

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« Reply #3958 on: June 19, 2025, 02:59:32 AM »

Ah yes, those terrorist nations.
The west needs them, especially the US to justify spending so much on weaponry rather than health care for its people and legitimise the erosion of personal rights.

I have no love for the Ayatollah and his misogynistic backward religion, but the same applies to the Judaism practiced by Ben Gvir and the ultra-right in the Knesset that Netty needs to shore up his government (or any religion for that matter).

Trump will strut around, we will posture and the IDF with American backing will continue to murder children queuing for flour. 
Life is meaningless and everything dies.

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« Reply #3959 on: June 19, 2025, 08:19:38 AM »
"The entire people of Israel are paying a price. We are going through a blitz, and we are going through it in an astonishing way. There are personal costs, people have been hurt, families have lost their loved ones.

"Each of us bears a personal cost, and this did not escape my family - this is the second time that Benny Avner has cancelled a wedding due to missile threats. It is a personal cost for his fiancée as well, and I must say that my dear wife is a hero, and she bears a personal cost."


- Benjamin Netanyahu

My heart bleeds for poor Netanyahu’s family.  I mean, sure, he could have waited until after his son’s wedding to launch his war, but who could have possibly predicted that Iran would shoot back?
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