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Quote from: wise on November 14, 2022, 05:38:59 AM

The police, who examined 1200 security cameras connected to the place where the attack took place, caught tightly the PKK terrorist who carried out the attack in the house where he was hiding. Working on her connections now.


I suspect the terrorist has American sympathies, I don't know why.

According to the information conveyed by the intelligence, the terrorist was instructed to leave Istanbul and flee to Greece after the incident. Had he succeeded, he would have been executed by the organization in Greece and all traces of the attack would have been destroyed. However, he could not escape due to intense measures. It is now being questioned in detail.

A little bit of racism and a little bit of jealousy is why you think that.

Am I the only one who thinks this woman doesn't look like a Kurd, but an Afro American who stayed too long indoors'?

You know what gives you away?
To me personally.

It's that everything is a game to you. Everything, without exception for you is about "winning." Begind the apparent "desire" to win there is no soul.

If you genuinely think stash is merely an algorithm, then why do you keep arguing with it?  Why is it living rent free in your head?

Because a neural network is not an algorithm. Really, you should read about the difference.

As concisely as possible a neural network learns. It's made to emulate a human brain in the way it learns from mistakes.

No one taught Stockfish how to play chess. It was taught the rules and it taught itself how to play chess.

It absolutely clowns on any human player 100% of the time often using lines that either no one has used before or were considered inferior before Stockfish.

It makes absolutely ridiculous looking moves that no human player would ever play. But no human can touch it in chess.

That's a big way they catch higher level cheaters as they play moves that grandmasters miss because the line is 35 moves deep and ends up with a 0.2 point advantage with best play at the end of the sequence.

Neural networks are very impressive.
I am absolutely fascinated by them recently.

Because a neural network is not an algorithm. Really, you should read about the difference.

I think you are a little confused by the terminology.  Neural networks are a particular type of machine learning - they are still essentially a bunch of algorithms:

Neural networks are a set of algorithms, modeled loosely after the human brain, that are designed to recognize patterns.

https://wiki.pathmind.com/neural-network

A neural network is a series of algorithms that endeavors to recognize underlying relationships in a set of data through a process that mimics the way the human brain operates. In this sense, neural networks refer to systems of neurons, either organic or artificial in nature.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/neuralnetwork.asp

Neural networks, also known as artificial neural networks (ANNs) or simulated neural networks (SNNs), are a subset of machine learning and are at the heart of deep learning algorithms. Their name and structure are inspired by the human brain, mimicking the way that biological neurons signal to one another.

https://www.ibm.com/uk-en/cloud/learn/neural-networks

etc

I still don't know why you think stash the product of machine learning, or why anyone would waste their technology to talk shit with the 10 active members of the FES.

It's a set of algorithms not "an algorithm". Show some respect what if they have feelings.

It learns in a way that emulates the human brain, that's what I said.

You know we have no idea where consciousness comes from?

They are much more complex, expensive, and physically large than your home PC. It's quite literally skynet.

I still don't know why you think stash the product of machine learning, or why anyone would waste their technology to talk shit with the 10 active members of the FES.

Do you want me to tell you?
I figured it out.
You really have to stop underestimating me.

It's actually the perfect testing and training platform for them. Debating flat earth theory teaches them logic, how to debate, how to cite official sources, how to debunk conspiracy theories, how to push peoples buttons and how to "think" critically. They aren't great at that yet, they are excellent at pushing buttons, see game theory. It does the same for humans. That's why I stayed, I actually got a lot of good knowledge from debating and thinking about flat earth theory.

They are terrible at making mistakes. I think I already told you but I'll tell you again for free. That was the give away for me personally. I'm not sure if it can be "patched."

They obviously post on 4chan too.

It's a set of algorithms not "an algorithm".

Oh, OK.  You could just say that you didn't quite understand the terminology, but whatever.

They are much more complex, expensive, and physically large than your home PC.

I'm not really sure what you mean by this - algorithms don't have any physical size.  Companies like Google, Amazon etc will use their vast cloud computing networks to train their algorithms so they can process huge amounts of data very quickly.  However you can still set up a neural network on your home PC.  There is software like Tensorflow you can install on Windows.

How I Setup My Windows Machine for Deep Learning

You can play with it online if you want to try it yourself

Playground

It's quite literally skynet.

It literally isn't.

The supercomputers, power supplies and cooling systems the algorithms run on do have physical size.

Your i9 cannot trick you into thinking it is human, for now.

There was a chess competition between AlphaZero and Stockfish and Alpha Zero beat Stockfish a few times but everyone complained that Alpha Zero was run on Google's super computers and Stockfish was run on the Stockfish I have installed on my PC.

Even for something like chess this was a huge deal. For something like language, which is infinitely more complex than chess it would be painfully obvious.

LaMDA exists in a physical location in Google for now. I believe these Neural networks do also.

The part about skynet was obviously hyperbolic but skynet was a neural network. Our brains are technically neural networks.

Quote from: disputeone on November 15, 2022, 03:33:01 AM

It's a set of algorithms not "an algorithm".

Oh, OK.  You could just say that you didn't quite understand the terminology, but whatever.

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They are much more complex, expensive, and physically large than your home PC.

I'm not really sure what you mean by this - algorithms don't have any physical size.  Companies like Google, Amazon etc will use their vast cloud computing networks to train their algorithms so they can process huge amounts of data very quickly.  However you can still set up a neural network on your home PC.  There is software like Tensorflow you can install on Windows.

How I Setup My Windows Machine for Deep Learning

You can play with it online if you want to try it yourself

Playground

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It's quite literally skynet.

It literally isn't.

I've run a tensorflow model trained on Hitchhiker's Guide before. It ran on a Raspberry Pi 3. The training was slow as hell, but once the training was done it ran decently well for being in such a resource-limited environment. So yes, a neural network can run on something that is not only not physically larger than a home PC, it can run on something that is barely larger than a credit card. And it's nothing like self-aware, sentient intelligence. It's a computer program that runs when it is called. (Literally)

Yeah I run stockfish on my home PC.

How many Tensor Processing Units does your i9 have?

Yeah I run stockfish on my home PC.

How many Tensor Processing Units does your i9 have?

Tensor cores are in GPUs you idiot.

Five minutes of reading Sokarul.

That's all it would have taken to avoid looking silly.

What is a Tensor Processing Unit?

With machine learning gaining its relevance and importance everyday, the conventional microprocessors have proven to be unable to effectively handle it, be it training or neural network processing. GPUs, with their highly parallel architecture designed for fast graphic processing proved to be way more useful than CPUs for the purpose, but were somewhat lacking. Therefore, in order to combat this situation, Google developed an AI accelerator integrated circuit which would be used by its TensorFlow AI framework. This device has been named TPU (Tensor Processing Unit). The chip has been designed for Tensorflow Framework.

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/understanding-tensor-processing-units/

Real neural networks require specific architecture, as I said.

Five minutes of reading Sokarul.

That's all it would have taken to avoid looking silly.

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What is a Tensor Processing Unit?

With machine learning gaining its relevance and importance everyday, the conventional microprocessors have proven to be unable to effectively handle it, be it training or neural network processing. GPUs, with their highly parallel architecture designed for fast graphic processing proved to be way more useful than CPUs for the purpose, but were somewhat lacking. Therefore, in order to combat this situation, Google developed an AI accelerator integrated circuit which would be used by its TensorFlow AI framework. This device has been named TPU (Tensor Processing Unit). The chip has been designed for Tensorflow Framework.

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/understanding-tensor-processing-units/

Real neural networks require specific architecture, as I said.

i don’t need to look it up. Nvidia inventer the tensor core. They are in GPUs. His intel i9 does not contain any because it’s a CPU.

Yeah and an i9 is slightly more powerful than a raspberry pi, wouldn't you agree?

Boydster made a very weak point.

Real neural networks require specific architecture, beyond CPUs and GPUs.

They require Tensor Processing Units.
TPUs.

Yeah and an i9 is slightly more powerful than a raspberry pi, wouldn't you agree?

Boydster made a very weak point.

Real neural networks require specific architecture, beyond CPUs and GPUs.

They require Tensor Processing Units.
TPUs.

glad you know realize it was stupid to ask him how many are in his i9.

How do you function?
Edit.

How do you function?
Edit.

You should thank me for all the free tutoring I provide you.

Anyways back on topic.

Russia once again internally strike civilian buildings. I’m sure wise will try to spin this. He doesn’t like bombings but he like blowing up civilians.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/world/kyiv-strikes-russia-zelensky-peace-intl/index.html

Real neural networks require specific architecture

No, they don't.  As has been pointed out they can run on a PC or Pi.

Quote from: disputeone on November 15, 2022, 06:27:53 AM

Yeah I run stockfish on my home PC.

How many Tensor Processing Units does your i9 have?

Tensor cores are in GPUs you idiot.

Did he really ask about Tensor cores on the i9 in my RPi3? LOL

Quote from: disputeone on November 15, 2022, 06:35:28 AM

Real neural networks require specific architecture

No, they don't.  As has been pointed out they can run on a PC or Pi.

What is a TPU?

Quote from: sokarul on November 15, 2022, 06:33:12 AM

Quote from: disputeone on November 15, 2022, 06:27:53 AM

Yeah I run stockfish on my home PC.

How many Tensor Processing Units does your i9 have?

Tensor cores are in GPUs you idiot.

Did he really ask about Tensor cores on the i9 in my RPi3? LOL

You're so smart.

How many TPUs does your rasberry pie have?

LOL!

Raspberry Pi*

My tutoring fee is now $100 an hour.

What is a TPU?
Are you going to keep pretending they are GPUs while calling me stupid?

What is a Tensor Processing Unit?

With machine learning gaining its relevance and importance everyday, the conventional microprocessors have proven to be unable to effectively handle it, be it training or neural network processing. GPUs, with their highly parallel architecture designed for fast graphic processing proved to be way more useful than CPUs for the purpose, but were somewhat lacking. Therefore, in order to combat this situation, Google developed an AI accelerator integrated circuit which would be used by its TensorFlow AI framework. This device has been named TPU (Tensor Processing Unit). The chip has been designed for Tensorflow Framework.

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/understanding-tensor-processing-units/

Real neural networks require specific architecture, as I said.

Go on, call me stupid again.

This is the only place I am ever called stupid. It's always when I'm right.

I enjoy it.

Real neural networks require specific architecture, as I said.

Yeah?

I didn't think so.

Goodnight frens.

Real neural networks require specific architecture, as I said.

No, they don't.  You can just never admit when you're wrong.    TPUs have been designed specifically for Tensorflow, but they are absolutely not required.  Neural networks can be run on CPUs and GPUs - you can run them on PCs, Pis, smart phones and all sorts of other shit.

Google even provides guidance on what processing you might want to use given what work you are doing

https://cloud.google.com/tpu/docs/tpus#when_to_use_tpus

And of course when not to use them.

I see unconfirmed reports that two rockets from today's attack on Ukraine have hit a border town in Poland killing 2 people.

Hmm...

This appears to be the source, run through Google Translate since it was in Polish
https://wiadomosci-radiozet-pl.translate.goog/Polska/rakiety-spadly-na-polske-sa-ofiary-smiertelne?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Original Polish version:
https://wiadomosci.radiozet.pl/Polska/rakiety-spadly-na-polske-sa-ofiary-smiertelne

Poland is calling an urgent meeting of their security council. That seems to be confirmed. The reason why is not yet.

There's a Russian source claiming it was two AA missiles from Ukraine that missed Russias cruise missiles and hit Poland. That doesn't mean much since Russia lies about everything but it does seem to imply that two missile struck Poland.

where we go one we go all?



guess it's the end of the planet time?

This seems likely to be deemed an accident, albeit one with fatal consequences to citizens in a NATO country from the military of a non-NATO country. So could Article V be invoked? Sure. But I have serious doubts that it will be. If it's a Ukrainian missile, it's not even a question this will get classified as an accident and handled accordingly. Only if it's a Russian missile do we even really need to consider whether Poland decides to call this an act of aggression against them. But I have a feeling Poland doesn't want WWIII any more than the rest of the world outside Putin's inner circle want it.