Jwst launches in less than 3 hours

Quote from: Heiwa on September 17, 2022, 11:11:55 PM

There is no doubt that the JWST can take photos of stars and galaxies in space ... but what does it prove?

It proves that you don't understand how the science of astrophysics works.  Granted, ground and space based telescopes have been taking increasingly amazing pictures of the universe, but JWST is such an improvement the quality of data being collected that scientists don't currently have the sophisticated enough tools to properly analyze that data.
https://www.cnet.com/science/space/nasas-webb-space-telescope-is-so-good-we-might-need-improved-planetary-models/

Please, I know how the science of astrophysics works ... or not. It think astrophysics is pure pseudoscience. No telescope of any type can see the end of the Universe. It is too far away. And there is nothing to see there apart from more amazing galaxies. How do I know? I use my own eyes watching the Universe from my window. I don't need any more sophisticated tools than that. I explain all at my website. Just look at the clowns having explained it so far starting by Albert Einstein.

I use my own eyes watching the Universe from my window. I don't need any more sophisticated tools than that.

I lone conspiracy theorist says he doesn't need anything other than his eyes and a window to examine the cosmos. Hilarious.

Please, I know how the science of astrophysics works ...

I have yet to see any evidence to support that claim.

It think astrophysics is pure pseudoscience. No telescope of any type can see the end of the Universe. It is too far away.

No astrophysicist ever said that they could.  I don't know why you keep repeating that nonsense as if someone has.

And there is nothing to see there apart from more amazing galaxies. How do I know? I use my own eyes watching the Universe from my window.

Can you use your eyes to analyze the atmospheres of exoplanets from your window?

I don't need any more sophisticated tools than that.

Then shut up and leave it for the scientists that do need it.  I keep telling you that NASA and ESA did not build JWST for your limited needs.

Can you use your eyes to analyze the atmospheres of exoplanets from your window?

Quote from: Heiwa on September 18, 2022, 10:38:26 AM

I don't need any more sophisticated tools than that.

Then shut up and leave it for the scientists that do need it.  I keep telling you that NASA and ESA did not build JWST for your limited needs.

No, my eyes cannot analyze gases. I use my nose for it. And I just watch some planets in our Solar System with my eyes. I also watch the Sun every morning when the weather is good to enjoy the photons arriving. The JWST cannot do it and their pseudo-experts do not even know what the Sun is and the origin of photons. The JWST looks at galaxies outside our Milky Way galaxy and there are billions of them, so JWST has a lot to look at. But it is a waste of time. Pseudo-astronomers have been studying galaxies for more than a hundred years and found nothing that explains what the Universe is. So the JWST will not change anything.

So the JWST will not change anything.

It already has, and it will leave one hell of a legacy.

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So the JWST will not change anything.

It already has, and it will leave one hell of a legacy.

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It has seen more galaxies of all sorts, which I had seen since 1970. Yes, there are galaxies everywhere in the Universe. And that's all.

Yes, there are double-hulled tankers everywhere in the Universe. And that's all.

Anders, weren't you asking for JWST pictures of Mars?  If so, here you go:

https://blogs.nasa.gov/webb/2022/09/19/mars-is-mighty-in-first-webb-observations-of-red-planet/

Anders, weren't you asking for JWST pictures of Mars?  If so, here you go:

https://blogs.nasa.gov/webb/2022/09/19/mars-is-mighty-in-first-webb-observations-of-red-planet/

Thanks. I myself can also see Mars from my window using my eyes.

Wow! You can detect the atmospheric content of Mars by just looking out your window? Amazing. You should get yourself a sideshow gig at a carnival with that kind of special super human talent.

Thanks. I myself can also see Mars from my window using my eyes.

Perhaps, but JWST can see it (and much of the universe) better.

Quote from: Heiwa on September 19, 2022, 08:02:54 PM

Thanks. I myself can also see Mars from my window using my eyes.

Perhaps, but JWST can see it (and much of the universe) better.

No, JWST can only see visible matter. There are asstronomers och pseudo-scientists seeing super novas, star births, dark matter and black holes in the Universe, but I cannot do that. I have never seen a super-nova or the birth of stars in galaxies, etc.  I maintain that you can only see what is visible in the Universe and that space travel in the Universe is always one-way, i.e. you cannot return after a lift-off from Earth, i.e. putting Americans on the Moon is not possible. It is pure nonsense.

Quote from: markjo on September 20, 2022, 04:15:49 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on September 19, 2022, 08:02:54 PM

Thanks. I myself can also see Mars from my window using my eyes.

Perhaps, but JWST can see it (and much of the universe) better.

No, JWST can only see visible matter. There are asstronomers och pseudo-scientists seeing super novas, star births, dark matter and black holes in the Universe, but I cannot do that. I have never seen a super-nova or the birth of stars in galaxies, etc.  I maintain that you can only see what is visible in the Universe and that space travel in the Universe is always one-way, i.e. you cannot return after a lift-off from Earth, i.e. putting Americans on the Moon is not possible. It is pure nonsense.

I'm pretty sure there are no Americans stuffed inside of JWST nor is it ever returning to Earth.

And maintaining a position without evidence is just an opinion. And your opinion is meaningless without evidence. And no, there is no evidence on your site so don't bother bringing up that 1990's grade school dumpster fire again.

Quote from: Heiwa on September 20, 2022, 07:18:49 PM

Quote from: markjo on September 20, 2022, 04:15:49 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on September 19, 2022, 08:02:54 PM

Thanks. I myself can also see Mars from my window using my eyes.

Perhaps, but JWST can see it (and much of the universe) better.

No, JWST can only see visible matter. There are asstronomers och pseudo-scientists seeing super novas, star births, dark matter and black holes in the Universe, but I cannot do that. I have never seen a super-nova or the birth of stars in galaxies, etc.  I maintain that you can only see what is visible in the Universe and that space travel in the Universe is always one-way, i.e. you cannot return after a lift-off from Earth, i.e. putting Americans on the Moon is not possible. It is pure nonsense.

I'm pretty sure there are no Americans stuffed inside of JWST nor is it ever returning to Earth.

And maintaining a position without evidence is just an opinion. And your opinion is meaningless without evidence. And no, there is no evidence on your site so don't bother bringing up that 1990's grade school dumpster fire again.

The JWST is of course unmanned but I have my doubts about its ability to fly around in space and look at things in the Universe taking photos. I prefer doing it from my roof terrace sipping champagne.

No, JWST can only see visible matter.

Incorrect.  JWST can see photons in the visible and invisible (infrared) wavelengths.  The interesting part is trying to figure out the source of those photons and what matter those photons may have interacted with along the way.

Quote from: Heiwa on September 20, 2022, 07:18:49 PM

No, JWST can only see visible matter.

Incorrect.  JWST can see photons in the visible and invisible (infrared) wavelengths.  The interesting part is trying to figure out the source of those photons and what matter those photons may have interacted with along the way.

The origins of photons/light are a mystery, i.e. how do they form inside stars popping up from nothing.

Quote from: markjo on September 20, 2022, 07:34:09 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on September 20, 2022, 07:18:49 PM

No, JWST can only see visible matter.

Incorrect.  JWST can see photons in the visible and invisible (infrared) wavelengths.  The interesting part is trying to figure out the source of those photons and what matter those photons may have interacted with along the way.

The origins of photons/light are a mystery, i.e. how do they form inside stars popping up from nothing.

Do some research and find out.

Quote from: Heiwa on September 20, 2022, 07:41:09 PM

Quote from: markjo on September 20, 2022, 07:34:09 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on September 20, 2022, 07:18:49 PM

No, JWST can only see visible matter.

Incorrect.  JWST can see photons in the visible and invisible (infrared) wavelengths.  The interesting part is trying to figure out the source of those photons and what matter those photons may have interacted with along the way.

The origins of photons/light are a mystery, i.e. how do they form inside stars popping up from nothing.

Do some research and find out.

I have for >50 years and nobody knows. Not even NASA. Re topic (JWST) there are billions of galaxies for JWST to look at. I only look at one, i.e. the Milky Way galaxy full of billions of stars of which the Sun is a lonely 1! It just appeared over the horizon outside my window sending photons to me. Last night I looked at the heart of the Milky Way that consists of millions of stars and one  group of them is NGC650 (maybe 100 000 stars) sending out plenty photons except a big, foggy black hole/area with no stars - Barnard 86 - that nobody can explain after years of research. Don't blame me. I just watch the show.

Re topic (JWST) there are billions of galaxies for JWST to look at. I only look at one...

Correct, the topic is what JWST looks at. The topic is not what Anders looks at. Try and stay on topic.

Quote from: Heiwa on September 20, 2022, 10:50:53 PM

Re topic (JWST) there are billions of galaxies for JWST to look at. I only look at one...

Correct, the topic is what JWST looks at. The topic is not what Anders looks at. Try and stay on topic.

I agree. But JWST was supposed to look for the end of the Universe but is just looking at billions of galaxies that are in the way. When will JWST find something new in the Universe? I just look at the sky from my roof terrace.

Quote from: Stash on September 20, 2022, 11:22:19 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on September 20, 2022, 10:50:53 PM

Re topic (JWST) there are billions of galaxies for JWST to look at. I only look at one...

Correct, the topic is what JWST looks at. The topic is not what Anders looks at. Try and stay on topic.

But JWST was supposed to look for the end of the Universe

No, it isn't.  Only you claim that.

The JWST is certainly looking for the earliest galaxies, and hence the earliest formation of structures within the Universe.  Galaxy formation started a considerable amount of time after the Universe began.  So it is in no way looking for the 'end of the Universe'. Furthermore, it is already more than possible to see before the formation of galaxies, by examination of the CMB.

Try to spend more time studying that which you are attempting to refute, and less time aimlessly staring out your window.

WTF does he even mean by 'end'? The JWST wants to see how the early universe looked. Closer to its beginning. The speed of light doesn't operate in a real time that when we see something from 13 billion years ago, we are seeing it as it appears right now.

You cant point a telescope anywhere and see the 'end' of the universe as if it's some physical wall. Only Heiwa seems to assert this nonsense. Over and over despite being told how not only wrong that is, but how wrong he is to assume this is the mission of the JWST

If he is going to pretend to be serious, he could at least pretend to learn things. Obviously he's just a troll. A troll that should stick to his nonsense thread to avoid getting yet another ban

Quote from: Heiwa on September 21, 2022, 03:36:28 AM

Quote from: Stash on September 20, 2022, 11:22:19 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on September 20, 2022, 10:50:53 PM

Re topic (JWST) there are billions of galaxies for JWST to look at. I only look at one...

Correct, the topic is what JWST looks at. The topic is not what Anders looks at. Try and stay on topic.

But JWST was supposed to look for the end of the Universe

No, it isn't.  Only you claim that.

The JWST is certainly looking for the earliest galaxies, and hence the earliest formation of structures within the Universe.  Galaxy formation started a considerable amount of time after the Universe began.  So it is in no way looking for the 'end of the Universe'. Furthermore, it is already more than possible to see before the formation of galaxies, by examination of the CMB.

Try to spend more time studying that which you are attempting to refute, and less time aimlessly staring out your window.

?? But I just quote NASA !
« Webb will be a powerful time machine with infrared vision that will peer back over 13.5 billion years to see the first stars and galaxies forming out of the darkness of the early universe. “
Source - https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/science/
Of course NASA speaks Big Bang nonsense as usual. You cannot peer back in time ever. I explain more at my website since many years.

Quote from: Calen on September 21, 2022, 04:05:14 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on September 21, 2022, 03:36:28 AM

Quote from: Stash on September 20, 2022, 11:22:19 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on September 20, 2022, 10:50:53 PM

Re topic (JWST) there are billions of galaxies for JWST to look at. I only look at one...

Correct, the topic is what JWST looks at. The topic is not what Anders looks at. Try and stay on topic.

But JWST was supposed to look for the end of the Universe

No, it isn't.  Only you claim that.

The JWST is certainly looking for the earliest galaxies, and hence the earliest formation of structures within the Universe.  Galaxy formation started a considerable amount of time after the Universe began.  So it is in no way looking for the 'end of the Universe'. Furthermore, it is already more than possible to see before the formation of galaxies, by examination of the CMB.

Try to spend more time studying that which you are attempting to refute, and less time aimlessly staring out your window.

?? But I just quote NASA !
« Webb will be a powerful time machine with infrared vision that will peer back over 13.5 billion years to see the first stars and galaxies forming out of the darkness of the early universe. “
Source - https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/science/

And where does that say 'the end of the universe'?

WTF does he even mean by 'end'? The JWST wants to see how the early universe looked. Closer to its beginning. The speed of light doesn't operate in a real time that when we see something from 13 billion years ago, we are seeing it as it appears right now.

You cant point a telescope anywhere and see the 'end' of the universe as if it's some physical wall. Only Heiwa seems to assert this nonsense. Over and over despite being told how not only wrong that is, but how wrong he is to assume this is the mission of the JWST

If he is going to pretend to be serious, he could at least pretend to learn things. Obviously he's just a troll. A troll that should stick to his nonsense thread to avoid getting yet another ban

?? But I just quote NASA !
« Webb will be a powerful time machine with infrared vision that will peer back over 13.5 billion years to see the first stars and galaxies forming out of the darkness of the early universe. “
Source - https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/science/

JWST is a time machine!! ROTFL!

You cannot peer back in time ever.

Heiwa, if you see an explosion far away, why dont you hear the sound as it happens?



Do we hear in the past?

Also, stop spamming your website here will get you banned again.

new image from JWST of Neptune.
This is super impressive considering how far Neptune is.



And no Heiwa, you never saw Nepture by looking out your window, stop playing on the internet and tell your nurse you need your bath.

Quote from: Heiwa on September 21, 2022, 05:03:29 AM

You cannot peer back in time ever.

Heiwa, if you see an explosion far away, why dont you hear the sound as it happens?



Do we hear in the past?

Also, stop spamming your website here will get you banned again.

Me spamming my website? I don't need it. The Flat Earth Society forum does it at the top of the page. Imagine >1.5 million viewers of my Challenge thread. Some stupid American thought he had won it, bla, bla, bla.

new image from JWST of Neptune.
This is super impressive considering how far Neptune is.



And no Heiwa, you never saw Nepture by looking out your window, stop playing on the internet and tell your nurse you need your bath.

Correct. I have never seen Neptune from my roof terrace. But Jupiter, Mars, and Venus orbit by regularily and area easy to spot. Like the Sun and the Moon. Do you have a roof terrace to watch the sky?

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on September 21, 2022, 08:58:39 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on September 21, 2022, 05:03:29 AM

You cannot peer back in time ever.

Heiwa, if you see an explosion far away, why dont you hear the sound as it happens?



Do we hear in the past?

Also, stop spamming your website here will get you banned again.

Me spamming my website? I don't need it. The Flat Earth Society forum does it at the top of the page. Imagine >1.5 million viewers of my Challenge thread. Some stupid American thought he had won it, bla, bla, bla.

Typical you. Talking about yourself instead of answering the question. Your tiny ego really needs all the attention it can get.

Why do you hear the explosion a while after it happens?
Why are we hearing in the past?