Jwst launches in less than 3 hours

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on July 30, 2022, 02:29:43 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on July 30, 2022, 02:23:12 AM

Quote from: Stash on July 30, 2022, 01:20:54 AM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on July 29, 2022, 02:31:12 PM

When I was in Seoul, I could count the number of stars and planets on one hand the light pollution was so bad.

Yeah, he's not gonna see jack in Monaco. Way too much light pollution. Here's a light pollution map, Seoul, NYC & Monaco are all on the same level of massive light pollution:

?? When I have early breakfast I can clearly see the dark sky above place My place is apparently above any light pollution.

That's not how light pollution works. Your only hope for a clear night sky is to have a country wide blackout.

Please, do not change topic, which is what the JWST sees in space that we humans cannot see. There is no light pollution at my place and I see the sky clearly, incl. the Milky Way galaxy that is very big.

Quote from: Heiwa on July 30, 2022, 05:04:40 AM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on July 30, 2022, 02:29:43 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on July 30, 2022, 02:23:12 AM

Quote from: Stash on July 30, 2022, 01:20:54 AM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on July 29, 2022, 02:31:12 PM

When I was in Seoul, I could count the number of stars and planets on one hand the light pollution was so bad.

?? When I have early breakfast I can clearly see the dark sky above place My place is apparently above any light pollution.

That's not how light pollution works. Your only hope for a clear night sky is to have a country wide blackout.

Please, do not change topic, which is what the JWST sees in space that we humans cannot see. There is no light pollution at my place and I see the sky clearly, incl. the Milky Way galaxy that is very big.

Light pollution is why we build telescopes that gaze at the stars away from urban areas. Your night sky in Monaco has too much light pollution. The JWST not only has zero light pollution but near zero temperatures which allows for total non interference - which is important if you want to study things in the order of billions of light years. Your human eyes even if you had the best vision on the planet, in total darkness could only see a few thousand stars.



You also have to contend with the weather and atmosphere and the fact that half of what is out there is blocked by the planet you are standing on.

Also, can your eyes see in infrared?

I just see plenty visible stars incl. the Milky Way galaxy from my place when the sky is clear. It is good enough for me. I can also see Venus and Mars and some other planets.
I understand that JWST has just filmed some new stars just created 7500 light years away and I have missed them. I am told that Webb reveals emerging stellar nurseries and individual stars that are completely hidden in visible-light pictures. Because of Webb’s sensitivity to infrared light, it can peer through cosmic dust to see these objects. Protostellar jets, which emerge clearly in this image, shoot out from some of these young stars. The youngest sources appear as red dots in the dark, dusty region of the cloud. Objects in the earliest, rapid phases of star formation are difficult to capture, but Webb’s extreme sensitivity, spatial resolution, and imaging capability can chronicle these elusive events.
It is a pity I haven't seen an red dots in the dark sky.

You don't understand that, Heiwa. You just straight copied it off https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-cosmic-cliffs-glittering-landscape-of-star-birth

Seems to be your way when trying to prove knowledge of anything - quickly google, then paste it here.

Quote from: Calen on July 30, 2022, 07:16:25 AM

You don't understand that, Heiwa. You just straight copied it off https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-cosmic-cliffs-glittering-landscape-of-star-birth

Seems to be your way when trying to prove knowledge of anything - quickly google, then paste it here.

Correct!  I just copy what NASA writes. If I link to it or my own web site I get banned for trolling.

About the only times you are correct on anything is when you copy verbatim NASA and pass it off as if it was from your own intelligence lol

Quote from: Heiwa on July 30, 2022, 10:01:42 AM

Quote from: Calen on July 30, 2022, 07:16:25 AM

You don't understand that, Heiwa. You just straight copied it off https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-cosmic-cliffs-glittering-landscape-of-star-birth

Seems to be your way when trying to prove knowledge of anything - quickly google, then paste it here.

Correct!  I just copy what NASA writes. If I link to it or my own web site I get banned for trolling.

Who said you cant link to NASA where they talk about the JWST (the topic). Your website has nothing to do with the JWST and thus linking to it is just spamming off topic BS

About the only times you are correct on anything is when you copy verbatim NASA and pass it off as if it was from your own intelligence lol

My JWST website is quite popular.

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on July 30, 2022, 10:39:13 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on July 30, 2022, 10:01:42 AM

Quote from: Calen on July 30, 2022, 07:16:25 AM

You don't understand that, Heiwa. You just straight copied it off https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-cosmic-cliffs-glittering-landscape-of-star-birth

Seems to be your way when trying to prove knowledge of anything - quickly google, then paste it here.

Correct!  I just copy what NASA writes. If I link to it or my own web site I get banned for trolling.

Who said you cant link to NASA where they talk about the JWST (the topic). Your website has nothing to do with the JWST and thus linking to it is just spamming off topic BS

About the only times you are correct on anything is when you copy verbatim NASA and pass it off as if it was from your own intelligence lol

My JWST website is quite popular. I am quite proud of it and all nonsense NASA produces.

Yes, it's such a pity that there are things that you can only see with a very powerful telescope.

Quote from: markjo on July 31, 2022, 09:07:34 AM

Yes, it's such a pity that there are things that you can only see with a very powerful telescope.

The beauty of the JWST is that it can see and make photos of things in space that are not visible to human eyes, i.e. invisible things. Then NASA publish the photos of, e.g. the birth of new stars not far from Earth, and when I ask NASA about these stars, I am told they cannot be seen.

Quote from: Heiwa on July 31, 2022, 09:45:52 AM

Quote from: markjo on July 31, 2022, 09:07:34 AM

Yes, it's such a pity that there are things that you can only see with a very powerful telescope.

The beauty of the JWST is that it can see and make photos of things in space that are not visible to human eyes, i.e. invisible things. Then NASA publish the photos of, e.g. the birth of new stars not far from Earth, and when I ask NASA about these stars, I am told they cannot be seen.

Quite correct. They are too far away and obscured by lots of interstellar dust at the same time. There are also some things that are invisible to the human eye but not to something that can see in the infrared spectrum. And also our human eye lacks the resolution to resolve images so far away. Like the picture of thousands of galaxies that only cover a portion of the sky the size of a grain of sand at arms length away.

We also see light in real time whereas a telescope can stay on an image for hours or weeks and collect a lot of light and publish it into one photo

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on July 31, 2022, 09:50:56 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on July 31, 2022, 09:45:52 AM

Quote from: markjo on July 31, 2022, 09:07:34 AM

Yes, it's such a pity that there are things that you can only see with a very powerful telescope.

The beauty of the JWST is that it can see and make photos of things in space that are not visible to human eyes, i.e. invisible things. Then NASA publish the photos of, e.g. the birth of new stars not far from Earth, and when I ask NASA about these stars, I am told they cannot be seen.

Quite correct. They are too far away and obscured by lots of interstellar dust at the same time. There are also some things that are invisible to the human eye but not to something that can see in the infrared spectrum. And also our human eye lacks the resolution to resolve images so far away. Like the picture of thousands of galaxies that only cover a portion of the sky the size of a grain of sand at arms length away.

We also see light in real time whereas a telescope can stay on an image for hours or weeks and collect a lot of light and publish it into one photo

No, the stars in question are just 7500 light years away in the Milky Way galaxy and should be easily seen from my window. I can also see the Andromeda galaxy outside the Milky Way. Of course it just looks like a little star, but it is bigger than the whole Milky Way.

Quote from: Heiwa on July 31, 2022, 10:13:47 AM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on July 31, 2022, 09:50:56 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on July 31, 2022, 09:45:52 AM

Quote from: markjo on July 31, 2022, 09:07:34 AM

Yes, it's such a pity that there are things that you can only see with a very powerful telescope.

The beauty of the JWST is that it can see and make photos of things in space that are not visible to human eyes, i.e. invisible things. Then NASA publish the photos of, e.g. the birth of new stars not far from Earth, and when I ask NASA about these stars, I am told they cannot be seen.

Quite correct. They are too far away and obscured by lots of interstellar dust at the same time. There are also some things that are invisible to the human eye but not to something that can see in the infrared spectrum. And also our human eye lacks the resolution to resolve images so far away. Like the picture of thousands of galaxies that only cover a portion of the sky the size of a grain of sand at arms length away.

We also see light in real time whereas a telescope can stay on an image for hours or weeks and collect a lot of light and publish it into one photo

No, the stars in question are just 7500 light years away in the Milky Way galaxy and should be easily seen from my window. I can also see the Andromeda galaxy outside the Milky Way. Of course it just looks like a little star, but it is bigger than the whole Milky Way.

Almost all the furthest stars you can see, even in the perfect of conditions (zero light pollution) are only a few thousand light years distant. 7500 light years would be pushing the limits. Certainly over the limit of an old fogies eyes out of a dirty kitchen window. The only reason why you can see the Andromeda galaxy unaided (also with no light pollution) is because it is a collection of hundreds of billions of stars.

But as we all know, the city of Monaco is full of light pollution making star gazing pretty shit. These are simply the facts of reality. Argue against them if you wish to look like a fool. For now, be thankful we have advanced telescopes that can see wonders you never could on your own

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on July 31, 2022, 10:29:28 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on July 31, 2022, 10:13:47 AM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on July 31, 2022, 09:50:56 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on July 31, 2022, 09:45:52 AM

Quote from: markjo on July 31, 2022, 09:07:34 AM

Yes, it's such a pity that there are things that you can only see with a very powerful telescope.

The beauty of the JWST is that it can see and make photos of things in space that are not visible to human eyes, i.e. invisible things. Then NASA publish the photos of, e.g. the birth of new stars not far from Earth, and when I ask NASA about these stars, I am told they cannot be seen.

Quite correct. They are too far away and obscured by lots of interstellar dust at the same time. There are also some things that are invisible to the human eye but not to something that can see in the infrared spectrum. And also our human eye lacks the resolution to resolve images so far away. Like the picture of thousands of galaxies that only cover a portion of the sky the size of a grain of sand at arms length away.

We also see light in real time whereas a telescope can stay on an image for hours or weeks and collect a lot of light and publish it into one photo

No, the stars in question are just 7500 light years away in the Milky Way galaxy and should be easily seen from my window. I can also see the Andromeda galaxy outside the Milky Way. Of course it just looks like a little star, but it is bigger than the whole Milky Way.

Almost all the furthest stars you can see, even in the perfect of conditions (zero light pollution) are only a few thousand light years distant. 7500 light years would be pushing the limits. Certainly over the limit of an old fogies eyes out of a dirty kitchen window. The only reason why you can see the Andromeda galaxy unaided (also with no light pollution) is because it is a collection of hundreds of billions of stars.

But as we all know, the city of Monaco is full of light pollution making star gazing pretty shit. These are simply the facts of reality. Argue against them if you wish to look like a fool. For now, be thankful we have advanced telescopes that can see wonders you never could on your own

I just say what I see from my window, incl. the Andromeda galaxy. These are simply the facts of reality.

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on July 31, 2022, 09:50:56 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on July 31, 2022, 09:45:52 AM

Quote from: markjo on July 31, 2022, 09:07:34 AM

Yes, it's such a pity that there are things that you can only see with a very powerful telescope.

The beauty of the JWST is that it can see and make photos of things in space that are not visible to human eyes, i.e. invisible things. Then NASA publish the photos of, e.g. the birth of new stars not far from Earth, and when I ask NASA about these stars, I am told they cannot be seen.

Quite correct. They are too far away and obscured by lots of interstellar dust at the same time. There are also some things that are invisible to the human eye but not to something that can see in the infrared spectrum. And also our human eye lacks the resolution to resolve images so far away. Like the picture of thousands of galaxies that only cover a portion of the sky the size of a grain of sand at arms length away.

We also see light in real time whereas a telescope can stay on an image for hours or weeks and collect a lot of light and publish it into one photo

No, the stars in question are just 7500 light years away in the Milky Way galaxy and should be easily seen from my window. I can also see the Andromeda galaxy outside the Milky Way. Of course it just looks like a little star, but it is bigger than the whole Milky Way.

Thanks. I see the same from my window at night. Right now I see the Mediterranean Sea with a cloudy sky above.

I see something similar from my window.

Right now the Sun is up and no stars are visible in the sky.

I see something similar from my window.

Quote from: Heiwa on July 31, 2022, 11:20:00 AM

I see something similar from my window.

Probably the effects of LSD.

No, either coffee or champagne.

Quote from: Heiwa on July 31, 2022, 12:05:22 PM

No, either coffee or champagne.

If you are seeing stars after so much coffee or champagne, it may be time to slow down a bit

Quote from: MaNaeSWolf on July 31, 2022, 12:12:11 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on July 31, 2022, 12:05:22 PM

No, either coffee or champagne.

If you are seeing stars after so much coffee or champagne, it may be time to slow down a bit

I always drink coffee and sip champagne with moderation while watching stars in the sky, which I do right now.