Jwst launches in less than 3 hours

Quote from: boydster on January 10, 2022, 12:11:47 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 11:22:12 AM

Quote from: boydster on January 10, 2022, 10:46:14 AM

By Heiwa's logic, Jupiter orbits the Earth too

Yes. The Earth is the center of the Universe. Just prove me wrong.

Lucky for you, it's trivial to define a FoR where that's the case, but the math regarding how bodies move in that FoR is needlessly complicated.

I agree. You have to get the mass of the Sun right and find out what it orbits around - planet Mars? But from my windows I see every morning the Sun rises above the distant horizon (of the Earth) and it is only possible if planet Earth rotates around its poles at the center of the Solar system and the Universe.

You could say at a crunch the sun orbits around Sagittarius A*

I agree. You have to get the mass of the Sun right and find out what it orbits around - planet Mars? But from my windows I see every morning the Sun rises above the distant horizon (of the Earth) and it is only possible if planet Earth rotates around its poles at the center of the Solar system and the Universe.

The entire universe does not see from your window - only you.

A hypothetical being on a far distant planet would have a similar view and could reach a similar conclusion.  Indeed any being on any rotation sphere could draw the same conclusion. 

As there is no way to determine who is correct, other than claiming a privileged view, each must have equal validity.  Therefore, every being on a rotating sphere could consider themselves the centre of the Universe.

This is clearly an absurd situation - each being claiming they are the centre.

The resolution to the absurdity is simple: there is no privileged view, and there is no centre.  Science, which does not limit itself to one view, readily accepts this.  It works to create a coherent, consistent framework that every observer can agree on no matter their personal viewpoint.

Maybe spend less time staring out your window, and more time broadening your mental horizons? It may lead you to realise that you, and the view out your window, are not the centre of the Universe.

Quote from: boydster on January 10, 2022, 12:11:47 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 11:22:12 AM

Quote from: boydster on January 10, 2022, 10:46:14 AM

By Heiwa's logic, Jupiter orbits the Earth too

Yes. The Earth is the center of the Universe. Just prove me wrong.

Lucky for you, it's trivial to define a FoR where that's the case, but the math regarding how bodies move in that FoR is needlessly complicated.

I agree. You have to get the mass of the Sun right and find out what it orbits around - planet Mars? But from my windows I see every morning the Sun rises above the distant horizon (of the Earth) and it is only possible if planet Earth rotates around its poles at the center of the Solar system and the Universe.

Why is that the only possibility?

Yes, when the JWST orbits Earth at the L2 point at high altitude, it cannot see the Sun because planet Earth is in the way all the time. It means that the JWST cannot study the Sun from the L2 point.

JWST is designed to study just about every sun except the one at the center of our solar system.  Those telescopes would be in a halo orbit around L1.

But the JWST can study planet Earth (in front of the Sun) from the L2 point all the time.

Actually, L2 really isn't very good for studying the earth because it would be severely backlit by the sun.

To study the rest of the Universe and the Solar system, the JWST must just look in another direction.
Problem remains to orbit planet Earth at the L2 point, i.e. to maintain speed and direction in the orbit (around Earth) and to maintain altitude (above Earth). I still haven't figured out how the JWST does it without some steering system.

Then it's a good thing that JWST does have a steering system that allows it to turn around and face away from the sun and earth.

According the NESA clowns the JWST is never at the L2 point! Instead it orbits the L2 point, but how it is done is religious magic!

It's been said that any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic, so I can see why you keep getting confused.

I dont think it would 'fall' anywhere because if its moving at the same speed Earth is, it's around 30km/s. It cant 'fall' to the sun unless it first counteracts that speed first entirely (which is why its hard to get any probe to the sun but easy to get a probe to leave the solar system as all you need is Earths escape velocity). My guess is that it will continue to orbit the sun, but in an unstable fashion. I would just hope it's not utterly useless and a piece of junk at that point

Perhaps this might help.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 04:35:05 PM

Quote from: boydster on January 10, 2022, 12:11:47 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 11:22:12 AM

Quote from: boydster on January 10, 2022, 10:46:14 AM

By Heiwa's logic, Jupiter orbits the Earth too

Yes. The Earth is the center of the Universe. Just prove me wrong.

Lucky for you, it's trivial to define a FoR where that's the case, but the math regarding how bodies move in that FoR is needlessly complicated.

I agree. You have to get the mass of the Sun right and find out what it orbits around - planet Mars? But from my windows I see every morning the Sun rises above the distant horizon (of the Earth) and it is only possible if planet Earth rotates around its poles at the center of the Solar system and the Universe.

Why is that the only possibility?

It seems everyone agrees that planet Earth rotates 360° around its poles in 24 hrs from East to West, so watching the Sun from such a rotating location, the Sun would appear to rise at the horizon (if you can see it) in the morning. The horizon could also be a mountain range, and then the Sun would rise from behind it. Note that the Sun does not rise vertically. Its trajectory is slightly inclined.
Have you ever witnessed a sun rise?
As planet Earth is fix at the center of the Solar system/Universe, the visible trajectory of the Sun (mass unknown) - a 360° orbit around Earth (another unknown mass) in 365 days - cannot be explained by gravity forces, etc. It means other forces to be explained are in action, e.g. electromagnetic ones, to keep the Sun orbiting Earth. Complicated stuff, to say the least.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 12:01:19 AM

Yes, when the JWST orbits Earth at the L2 point at high altitude, it cannot see the Sun because planet Earth is in the way all the time. It means that the JWST cannot study the Sun from the L2 point.

JWST is designed to study just about every sun except the one at the center of our solar system.  Those telescopes would be in a halo orbit around L1.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 12:01:19 AM

But the JWST can study planet Earth (in front of the Sun) from the L2 point all the time.

Actually, L2 really isn't very good for studying the earth because it would be severely backlit by the sun.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 12:01:19 AM

To study the rest of the Universe and the Solar system, the JWST must just look in another direction.
Problem remains to orbit planet Earth at the L2 point, i.e. to maintain speed and direction in the orbit (around Earth) and to maintain altitude (above Earth). I still haven't figured out how the JWST does it without some steering system.

Then it's a good thing that JWST does have a steering system that allows it to turn around and face away from the sun and earth.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 12:01:19 AM

According the NESA clowns the JWST is never at the L2 point! Instead it orbits the L2 point, but how it is done is religious magic!

It's been said that any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic, so I can see why you keep getting confused.

Markjo - you are 100% right that planet Earth appears like a fix black dot against the Sun when observed by the JWST from L2. The purpose of the JWST is to look in all other directions from L2 to spot the origin of the Universe with its billons of stars, black holes, etc. I doubt the JWST will find it.

Quote from: Stash on January 10, 2022, 06:26:51 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 04:35:05 PM

Quote from: boydster on January 10, 2022, 12:11:47 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 11:22:12 AM

Quote from: boydster on January 10, 2022, 10:46:14 AM

By Heiwa's logic, Jupiter orbits the Earth too

Yes. The Earth is the center of the Universe. Just prove me wrong.

Lucky for you, it's trivial to define a FoR where that's the case, but the math regarding how bodies move in that FoR is needlessly complicated.

I agree. You have to get the mass of the Sun right and find out what it orbits around - planet Mars? But from my windows I see every morning the Sun rises above the distant horizon (of the Earth) and it is only possible if planet Earth rotates around its poles at the center of the Solar system and the Universe.

Why is that the only possibility?

It seems everyone agrees that planet Earth rotates 360° around its poles in 24 hrs from East to West, so watching the Sun from such a rotating location, the Sun would appear to rise at the horizon (if you can see it) in the morning. The horizon could also be a mountain range, and then the Sun would rise from behind it. Note that the Sun does not rise vertically. Its trajectory is slightly inclined.
Have you ever witnessed a sun rise?

No.

As planet Earth is fix at the center of the Solar system/Universe, the visible trajectory of the Sun (mass unknown) - a 360° orbit around Earth (another unknown mass) in 365 days - cannot be explained by gravity forces, etc. It means other forces to be explained are in action, e.g. electromagnetic ones, to keep the Sun orbiting Earth. Complicated stuff, to say the least.

That doesn't answer the question. The question is why is the earth the center of the universe the only possibility. All you are saying is that you think the Sun orbits the earth. And you don't even explain that.

But you are correct in saying that the Sun orbiting around the earth can't be explained by gravity forces. I agree. But the earth orbiting the Sun can be explained by gravity forces.

And what makes you say Earth's mass is unknown? According to whom? You?

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 10:33:33 PM

As planet Earth is fix at the center of the Solar system/Universe, the visible trajectory of the Sun (mass unknown) - a 360° orbit around Earth (another unknown mass) in 365 days - cannot be explained by gravity forces, etc. It means other forces to be explained are in action, e.g. electromagnetic ones, to keep the Sun orbiting Earth. Complicated stuff, to say the least.

That doesn't answer the question. The question is why is the earth the center of the universe the only possibility. All you are saying is that you think the Sun orbits the earth. And you don't even explain that.

But you are correct in saying that the Sun orbiting around the earth can't be explained by gravity forces. I agree. But the earth orbiting the Sun can be explained by gravity forces.

And what makes you say Earth's mass is unknown? According to whom? You?

Based on observations from my window the Sun and the Solar system and the complete Universe orbits around Earth, i.e. Earth is the center of the Universe. The forces and energies involved to keep it in balance are unclear. It seems planet Earth is fixed in Universe and doesn't move at all. Everything else moves around Earth.
I have not been able to find any verified info about the mass of planet Earth. It seems planet Earth consists of a thin crust mostly covered by water for fish and ships. What is below the crust is unclear. Hot magma and old lava? Yes, now and then there is a crack in the crust and magma and lava flow up, but what does it prove? Earth is hot magma? Nobody knows. And NESA sends the JWST to L2 to find out. What a joke!

Quote from: Stash on January 10, 2022, 10:56:33 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 10:33:33 PM

As planet Earth is fix at the center of the Solar system/Universe, the visible trajectory of the Sun (mass unknown) - a 360° orbit around Earth (another unknown mass) in 365 days - cannot be explained by gravity forces, etc. It means other forces to be explained are in action, e.g. electromagnetic ones, to keep the Sun orbiting Earth. Complicated stuff, to say the least.

That doesn't answer the question. The question is why is the earth the center of the universe the only possibility. All you are saying is that you think the Sun orbits the earth. And you don't even explain that.

But you are correct in saying that the Sun orbiting around the earth can't be explained by gravity forces. I agree. But the earth orbiting the Sun can be explained by gravity forces.

And what makes you say Earth's mass is unknown? According to whom? You?

Based on observations from my window the Sun and the Solar system and the complete Universe orbits around Earth, i.e. Earth is the center of the Universe. The forces and energies involved to keep it in balance are unclear. It seems planeet Earth is fixed in Universe and doesn't move at all. Everything else moves around Earth.
I have not been able to find any verified info about the mass of planet Earth. It seems planet Earth consists of a thin crust mostly covered by water for fish and ships. What is below the crust is unclear. Magma and lava? Yes, now and then there is a crack in the crust and magma and lava flow up, but what does it prove? Earth is hot magma? Nobody knows. And NESA sends the JWST to L2 to find out. What a joke!

If you are going to say the Earth is at  the centre of the universe then you must know the size and shape of the universe. Please tell us how you observed all this from 'out your window'

I used to think you were a regular loon or just a troll with your stupid moon landing conspirtard shit. Even would give you credit for all the work you did to play the role on your shitty website www.ratemypoo.com. But now we know you're just trolling for shits and giggles. Just saying the dumbest shit you can think of.

Anyway, why dont you start a new thread about Earth being the centre of the universe or other such nonsense and leave this thread to the science and work of the James Webb Telescope. You're an old fogie with one foot in the grave. School is well and truly out.

Based on observations from my window the Sun and the Solar system and the complete Universe orbits around Earth, i.e. Earth is the center of the Universe. The forces and energies involved to keep it in balance are unclear. It seems planeet Earth is fixed in Universe and doesn't move at all. Everything else moves around Earth.
I have not been able to find any verified info about the mass of planet Earth. It seems planet Earth consists of a thin crust mostly covered by water for fish and ships. What is below the crust is unclear. Magma and lava? Yes, now and then there is a crack in the crust and magma and lava flow up, but what does it prove? Earth is hot magma? Nobody knows. And NESA sends the JWST to L2 to find out. What a joke!

1. You, and your window, still are not the centre of the Universe.

2. Magma, not lava, within the Earth.  Lava, not magma, once erupted.  If you can't even get that right...

3. JWST is heading to L2 to observe the far reaches of the Universe, not to determine the mass and composition of the Earth. That is already known.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 11, 2022, 02:06:23 AM

Based on observations from my window the Sun and the Solar system and the complete Universe orbits around Earth, i.e. Earth is the center of the Universe. The forces and energies involved to keep it in balance are unclear. It seems planeet Earth is fixed in Universe and doesn't move at all. Everything else moves around Earth.
I have not been able to find any verified info about the mass of planet Earth. It seems planet Earth consists of a thin crust mostly covered by water for fish and ships. What is below the crust is unclear. Magma and lava? Yes, now and then there is a crack in the crust and magma and lava flow up, but what does it prove? Earth is hot magma? Nobody knows. And NESA sends the JWST to L2 to find out. What a joke!

1. You, and your window, still are not the centre of the Universe.

2. Magma, not lava, within the Earth.  Lava, not magma, once erupted.  If you can't even get that right...

3. JWST is heading to L2 to observe the far reaches of the Universe, not to determine the mass and composition of the Earth. That is already known.

Thanks, but from my point of view Earth seems to be fix in the Universe with the rest orbiting Earth. Luckily no magma/lava has erupted below me stopping my view. According NESA the JWST has arrived at L2 and testing has started. Soon the JWST will observe the whole Universe from the beginning. I wonder what it looks like. Probably same as from my window.

It seems everyone agrees that planet Earth rotates 360° around its poles in 24 hrs from East to West, so watching the Sun from such a rotating location, the Sun would appear to rise at the horizon (if you can see it) in the morning. The horizon could also be a mountain range, and then the Sun would rise from behind it. Note that the Sun does not rise vertically. Its trajectory is slightly inclined.
Have you ever witnessed a sun rise?
As planet Earth is fix at the center of the Solar system/Universe, the visible trajectory of the Sun (mass unknown) - a 360° orbit around Earth (another unknown mass) in 365 days - cannot be explained by gravity forces, etc. It means other forces to be explained are in action, e.g. electromagnetic ones, to keep the Sun orbiting Earth. Complicated stuff, to say the least.

LOL.

And people are trying to explain to you how halo orbits work?

Quote from: Heiwa on January 10, 2022, 10:33:33 PM

It seems everyone agrees that planet Earth rotates 360° around its poles in 24 hrs from East to West, so watching the Sun from such a rotating location, the Sun would appear to rise at the horizon (if you can see it) in the morning. The horizon could also be a mountain range, and then the Sun would rise from behind it. Note that the Sun does not rise vertically. Its trajectory is slightly inclined.
Have you ever witnessed a sun rise?
As planet Earth is fix at the center of the Solar system/Universe, the visible trajectory of the Sun (mass unknown) - a 360° orbit around Earth (another unknown mass) in 365 days - cannot be explained by gravity forces, etc. It means other forces to be explained are in action, e.g. electromagnetic ones, to keep the Sun orbiting Earth. Complicated stuff, to say the least.

LOL.

And people are trying to explain to you how halo orbits work?

Of course I know that a halo orbit is a periodic, three-dimensional orbit near one of the L1, L2 or L3 Lagrange points in the three-body problem of orbital mechanics. Although a Lagrange point is just a point in empty space, its peculiar characteristic is that it can be orbited by a Lissajous orbit or a halo orbit. These can be thought of as resulting from an interaction between the gravitational pull of the two planetary bodies and the Coriolis and centrifugal force on a spacecraft. Halo orbits exist in any three-body system, e.g., a Sun–Earth–orbiting satellite system or an Earth–Moon–orbiting satellite system. Continuous "families" of both northern and southern halo orbits exist at each Lagrange point. Because halo orbits tend to be unstable, stationkeeping may be required to keep a satellite on the orbit.
Most satellites in halo orbit serve scientific purposes, for example as space telescopes, it is suggested.
Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_orbit
But halo orbits are just another space joke. Like the JWST.

Well, you had to copy and paste your explanation of halo orbits, so your knowledge of them seems a joke.

Care to furnish some proof that halo orbits and the JWST are a joke? Proof, mind you, not just incredulity or your limited view from a window.

I'd just like to apologise to Crouton for unleashing the Heiwa troll. It's my fault for wishing him a merry Christmas on his dumb challenge thread which obviously sent him a notification to his email that someone replied and he hasn't logged off since.

The James Webb telescope is an amazing feat of engineering and if the few Americans that are smart can pull it off and have it successfully deploy, we will be inside a new era of understanding our universe. That is what this thread should be about. Not Heiwas pathetic attention seeking as he shits up the thread

Well, you had to copy and paste your explanation of halo orbits, so your knowledge of them seems a joke.

Care to furnish some proof that halo orbits and the JWST are a joke? Proof, mind you, not just incredulity or your limited view from a window.

As I say, I just look out from my window on Earth to daily watch the Solar system and the Universe and don't need a JWST orbiting at L2 to do the same thing for me. I think my observations are valid proof that the Sun orbits planet Earth. The JWST cannot even see the Sun from L2 as Earth hides the view.

The JWST cannot even see the Sun from L2 as Earth hides the view.

This would lend to evidence the earth revolves around the sun because if the sun revolved around the earth, it wouldn't matter where the JWST is located, you'd see it now and then

Get your own trolling right. Now you're just lame and boring

Today at 08.00 local time I observed from my window the Sun rising at the horizon out of the Mediterranean Sea due East. Same could be seen by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_Observatory  nearby. Actually it was the Sun being visible in the morning as our planet Earth is rotating around its poles 24/24. Earth is otherwise fixed in space. All the stars in the Universe orbit around Earth, which is easy to verify using a telescope at night, e.g. the one at Nice mentioned above. Unfortunately the chief of the Nice telescope is busy driving a rover around on planet Mars using remote control looking for water! Imagine that! Anyway, same person cannot explain how his rover managed to land on Mars at all. Reason? It is a joke.

Quote from: Calen on January 11, 2022, 10:01:13 PM

Well, you had to copy and paste your explanation of halo orbits, so your knowledge of them seems a joke.

Care to furnish some proof that halo orbits and the JWST are a joke? Proof, mind you, not just incredulity or your limited view from a window.

As I say, I just look out from my window on Earth to daily watch the Solar system and the Universe and don't need a JWST orbiting at L2 to do the same thing for me. I think my observations are valid proof that the Sun orbits planet Earth. The JWST cannot even see the Sun from L2 as Earth hides the view.

Ahh, wilful ignorance is your proof.

I can look out my window and see some buildings across the way. From my perspective all the buildings look like 2D squares.  By your reasoning, that is valid proof that 3D buildings do not exist, and are in fact 2D squares.

Actually, this could be really useful.  I'll speed down a motorway at 120mph, and when caught, my defence will be "when I looked out my window, I could see I was doing 70mph, and I think that's valid proof." 

I wonder what I would see through a prison window.

I wonder what I would see through a prison window.

Heiwas not in prison. He's in an old fogies home and he's got the staring window to keep him occupied

Heiwas not in prison. He's in an old fogies home and he's got the staring window to keep him occupied

Here in the UK that window has likely  been bricked up and replaced with a staring billboard to raise funds for the home.

Maybe it's this forum and the number of dummies that get spat out here, I feel I should point out (the fact that Shifter was joking notwithstanding) that I at no point implied Heiwa is in prison, only that I would be if I used Heiwa's logic as legal defence.

That said, I had surmised that Haiwa is a hermit, and by window they mean cave entrance.

Aha, there are people here that surmise things, i.e, guess. I never do it.

Aha, there are people here that surmise things, i.e, guess. I never do it.

That is exactly what you do. You look out your window, observe the sky, suppose that the Universe rotates around the Earth, and provide no proof other than you can see it. You also surmise that the JWST is a joke, again providing no proof, except incredulity.

How would the universe rotate around the earth? Imagine the forces at work that something maybe hundreds of billions of light years away - or more, they say it's 'infinite' - pick earth as the spot to rotate around.

Heiwa just says the dumbest shit because he's bored. At least with people like wise or Sandokhan, you can believe that they believe what they say. No one believes Heiwas believes the BS he says. As it's all over the place and he contracts himself non stop. What a boring old fart he became in his twilight years.

Just go back to your stupid moon landing hoax theory. Or nuclear bombs are fake or bow visor falling off ships or 9/11 fakery challenges.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 12, 2022, 04:44:47 AM

Aha, there are people here that surmise things, i.e, guess. I never do it.

That is exactly what you do. You look out your window, observe the sky, suppose that the Universe rotates around the Earth, and provide no proof other than you can see it. You also surmise that the JWST is a joke, again providing no proof, except incredulity.

Not really. I just watch from my window on Earth the universe/sky around Earth and me and conclude Earth is fix in it - at the center - and that the rest orbits around Earth. The JWST clowns have other ideas and think that they must send a telescope, JWST, to L2 and watch the same things from there. And the JWST has arrived at L2 and started to observe. No pictures are available so far. But it seems also JWST is orbiting Earth at L2. Everything orbits Earth. I am happy just to sit on Earth and watch it. And it upsets plenty fools believing in fantastic nuclear bombs 1945, flying Americans to the Moon 1969, fanatic Arabs landing in skyscrapers 9/2001 and funny people sinking ships by losing visors at the bow earlier 1994, etc. Plenty people believe such fantasies. I don't.

I'd just like to apologise to Crouton for unleashing the Heiwa troll. It's my fault for wishing him a merry Christmas on his dumb challenge thread which obviously sent him a notification to his email that someone replied and he hasn't logged off since.

The James Webb telescope is an amazing feat of engineering and if the few Americans that are smart can pull it off and have it successfully deploy, we will be inside a new era of understanding our universe. That is what this thread should be about. Not Heiwas pathetic attention seeking as he shits up the thread

No worries.  In my mind I picture all these exchanges with Heiwa sort of like an after school special where experts are trying to educate the audience on something but some dimwitted kid keeps bringing up obviously wrong points just so that the experts can talk about it.

Actually it was the Sun being visible in the morning as our planet Earth is rotating around its poles 24/24. Earth is otherwise fixed in space.

Hold on a second. The earth rotates AND the Sun orbits Earth? How does that work? If the earth rotates once every 24 hours, is the Sun stationary?

Additionally, do they let you outside or are you only allowed to look out your window?

Quote from: Heiwa on January 11, 2022, 11:42:20 PM

Actually it was the Sun being visible in the morning as our planet Earth is rotating around its poles 24/24. Earth is otherwise fixed in space.

Hold on a second. The earth rotates AND the Sun orbits Earth? How does that work? If the earth rotates once every 24 hours, is the Sun stationary?

Additionally, do they let you outside or are you only allowed to look out your window?

Yes, Earth rotates 36O° in 24/24 but is otherwise stationary at the center of the Solar system/Universe and the Sun orbits Earth in a year at high speed. Just look out at your own window to see it, e.g. how the Sun seems to slowly rise over the horizon every morning as seen from the rotating Earth. Then the light arrives so you can see clearly and also feel the heat (energy) arriving ... at no cost for you. And nobody can explain how the magic observed works. Light and heat ... from the Sun ... orbiting Earth. 

Quote from: Stash on January 12, 2022, 10:58:35 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 11, 2022, 11:42:20 PM

Actually it was the Sun being visible in the morning as our planet Earth is rotating around its poles 24/24. Earth is otherwise fixed in space.

Hold on a second. The earth rotates AND the Sun orbits Earth? How does that work? If the earth rotates once every 24 hours, is the Sun stationary?

Additionally, do they let you outside or are you only allowed to look out your window?

Yes, Earth rotates 36O° in 24/24 but is otherwise stationary at the center of the Solar system/Universe and the Sun orbits Earth in a year at high speed. Just look out at your own window to see it, e.g. how the Sun seems to slowly rise over the horizon every morning as seen from the rotating Earth. Then the light arrives so you can see clearly and also feel the heat (energy) arriving ... at no cost for you. And nobody can explain how the magic observed works. Light and heat ... from the Sun ... orbiting Earth.

GTFO