PROOF Earth is not round

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Anonymous

PROOF Earth is not round
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2005, 02:10:00 PM »
Quote from: "O RLY"
You flat-believers are confusion the Earth with my sister's chest.  :shock:


ZING!

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Jesus Christ

PROOF Earth is not round
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2005, 09:59:15 AM »
So, you take a boat with a big red mast, and you have it set sail away from you. The earths roundness can be explained by why the mast is seemingly 'sinking' into the ground as it sails further away. If the earth was flat, it would just grow smaller, you'd still be able to see the entire ship, but you aren't.


By the way, if you say I've never seen this in real life, me and everyone else who wasn't living under a rock all their lives has.

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Anonymous

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« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2005, 07:01:44 AM »
Quote from: "Anonymous"
A) There is no such thing as Centrifugal force... only Centripetal acceleration
B) Image altering technology in the 70s was NO WHERE near capable to create quality fakes like that.
C) when being created in an open space. objects being created generally take on a spherical form. (take for example looking into the stars. every planet and star we see is in a spherical form, its just plain illogical to think that for some reason the earth was created differently)
D)You guys are idiots.
E) Its just a plain matter of times in terms of travel... If you think about it, if the earth were round, the fastest way to get from say New York to Paris would be a straight line through the atlantic ocean, but it is not. The fastest way is to travel in a seemingly curved pattern. That is because the earth is ROUND, and a straight path from one place to another does not exist.

-this post by ph34r... im too lazy to create an account so thats my name.


    Just like to add to that - there is a 'Centrifugal Force' but it is not known by that name. It's scientific description would be closest matched to 'inertial acceleration' I suppose, the rule that says any object moving in a constant direction will want to retain that direction - any attempt to alter its trajectory results in a resistant force - felt by us as this so called 'Centrifugal Force'. The same force is felt on a fairground ride that moves you in circles - as your speed increases a horizontal component begins to appear in the form of 'inertial acceleration'.
 
    And with regards to the shortest distances between points on the world, that is a very good point and I'd like to see a 'flat-earther' prove it wrong. Viewed from directly above the midpoint of a transatlantic journey, the line will appear perfectly straight. But if you view the same route when onboard the aircraft via the little screens in front of you, you'll see that such a long route of 4,000 miles or more appears greatly curved. That is because in reality it is following the Earth's curvature, and as pilots we refer to this as a 'Great Circle Route', the shortest distance between two points on the Earth's surface. The other primary method of navigating is to fly 'Rhumb Lines', which means that you hold a distinct compass heading, for example 270 degrees. This is not the shortest route betweeen two points and proves the 'flat-earth theory' invalid, because the shortest distance between two points on a FLAT EARTH would be to hold a constant BEARING/HEADING. And I can tell you that if you were to fly a transatlantic route via a great circle route and then again by a rhumb line, you'd find the great circle track to cut you short about 500 miles.



    Cheers, Jack.

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Anonymous

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« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2005, 08:26:56 AM »
I would just like to point out to whoever the idiot was before that said it... Columbus never sailed around the Earth, Magellan did.

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Cryoruggie

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« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2005, 05:06:28 PM »
Quote from: "Anonymous"
I would just like to point out to whoever the idiot was before that said it... Columbus never sailed around the Earth, Magellan did.


I dunno - he got to the West Indies - isn't that India?
...yet I thought it was flat!"

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Anonymous

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« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2005, 11:03:25 PM »
Quote from: "Cryoruggie"
Quote from: "Anonymous"
I would just like to point out to whoever the idiot was before that said it... Columbus never sailed around the Earth, Magellan did.


I dunno - he got to the West Indies - isn't that India?


Heh heh heh, heh heh heh...

Try North America.

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« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2005, 12:16:35 AM »
Columbus name the West Indies such becuase he thought he landed near India.  Maggelan technily didn't sail around the world.  He was killed before making to the Indian Sea.  His crew finished the vowage.
gnorance can be excused, Stupidity cannot.

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Cryoruggie

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« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2005, 10:51:28 AM »
Quote from: "Nevyn"
Columbus name the West Indies such becuase he thought he landed near India.  Maggelan technily didn't sail around the world.  He was killed before making to the Indian Sea.  His crew finished the vowage.


so isn;t that proof that man was not meant to go around the Earth?  This "accident" seems very convenient.  May be part of the conspiracy....
...yet I thought it was flat!"

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Anonymous

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« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2005, 09:22:03 PM »
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E) Its just a plain matter of times in terms of travel... If you think about it, if the earth were round, the fastest way to get from say New York to Paris would be a straight line through the atlantic ocean, but it is not. The fastest way is to travel in a seemingly curved pattern. That is because the earth is ROUND, and a straight path from one place to another does not exist.


(you might want to Edit part E, change the first "round" to "flat")

Perhaps the map is drawn incorrectly. Feels pretty straight in the plane (and it is a straight line in both models).

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 And I can tell you that if you were to fly a transatlantic route via a great circle route and then again by a rhumb line, you'd find the great circle track to cut you short about 500 miles.


Have you personally navigated transatlantically both ways, with navigation equipment and education that you would describe as infallible?

Of course, I'm in the same boat as everyone else when it comes to this. I've been told all my life that the earth is approximately a sphere, with allowances for contour and whatnot. I couldn't, however, sit down cold and rattle off even the explanations I've been given.

I'm no idiot, but I'm definitely humbled here. Yes, we all think that the world is round because we believe what we've been told - and not, may I add, most of what we've seen - but the truth is that I have shockingly little first hand (the most important kind) experience with spherically based navigation.

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« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2005, 09:33:25 PM »
Who cares?  You know we have seasons and time zones right?  That's pretty strong evidence the earth isn't flat.  There's a decent chance you've seen a ship sink into the horizon.  You may have seen an eclipse, and the round shadow.  You have probably traveled north or south enough to see a noticable shift in the sky that the curvature of the earth explains.  Or maybe you've visited Australia and noticed everything in the sky seems upside down.  You may not have realized it at the time, but you very well may have seen it.  In the future, look for it.  There's plenty of reasons that you yourself can use, and don't need to take someone's word for.

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Ninja Hippy

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« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2005, 09:37:42 PM »
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Perhaps the map is drawn incorrectly. Feels pretty straight in the plane (and it is a straight line in both models).


That's dumb. Of course it feels straight- the reason it is shorter is because it is even straighter than a direct route. Besides, even if it was more curved, the massive distance over which the slight curve takes place is far too small to make you feel anything.

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Darwinism will pwn you.

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« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2005, 10:29:58 PM »
Quote from: "Ninja Hippy"
Quote from: Guest
Perhaps the map is drawn incorrectly. Feels pretty straight in the plane (and it is a straight line in both models).


That's dumb. Of course it feels straight- the reason it is shorter is because it is even straighter than a direct route. Besides, even if it was more curved, the massive distance over which the slight curve takes place is far too small to make you feel anything.


It doesn't feel straight at all, you can very clearly feel (and see) the plane climb and descend. From a side view the plane's flight is a curve, not a straight line.

I just found this site, so I'm going to ask some pretty obvious questions:

1. If the earth is flat, how is it possible that nobody alive has found the edges?

2. If the earth is flat, how is it possible that when you fly in a plane, it looks round in every direction?

3. If the earth is flat, how is it possible that you can all be so god damned retarded?

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devo

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« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2005, 11:56:26 PM »
also, that picture last page, i see africa, but i do not see america. Why is that? Because its round.

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Anonymous

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« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2005, 07:00:06 AM »
Hi
I currently study physics at university and upon finding this website i was shocked to find the truth about the earth from this website, I have however discovered proof (given that the earths surface is flat) that the earth is more of a rectangular shape than just a flat mass, to avoid the biases of todays manipulated 'science' i have used only scientific theories that i myself have seen absolute proof for in order to logically come to this conclusion. Though trying to avoid it I have gotten a tiny bit technical so if needed ill repost in laymans terms.

Ok i think that we can all agree, from the wealth of common sense proof, that the worlds surface is indeed flat. However the earth itself must be more of a cube or rectangular shape, to have sufficient mass, and therefore gravitational attraction to exert the force that it does upon us and also in order to reduce the angle between an object on the outer rim and the centre of gravity of the earth (which is essential so that people on the rim do not simply fall over from the angle that gravity is pulling them at).

Firstly the minimum angle must be determined. To be deemed having a negligible effect on humans, this angle should at maximum be just inside the angle to vertical that gravity could act in order for a human to be able to stand (i.e. the angle from a humans centre to the outside base of his/her feet) an average human having a COG 90cm from the ground and a foot base of 20 cms from front to back (roughly 10cms on either side of the COG obviously). These figures (with simple geometry) give you a maximum allowable minimum angle (let this angle be Z from now on) from a point on the edge of the earth to the earths COG of 10 degrees.

If the point from the north pole to the edge of the earth is 20,000 kms, (something that EVEN the gullible 'round earth' believers think due to them believing the earth has a 'circumference' of 40,000 kms... what a bunch of idiots) with this 20,000 kms the 10 degree allowable angle and this simple diagram.


If diagram does not show properly its just simple grade 10 stuff.

we can see that the distance to the earths centre of gravity must be at least 180,000km,s so that humans would not topple over when standing in a location on the edge of the earth such as Australia, being a west Australian i can personally attest to the fact that we do not topple over, not even the really tall people.

Therefore logically and indisputably (unless you want to contend with gravitational theories that can be tested by anybody with a telescope by observing the light from stars bending while passing other planets) the flat earth, given uniform consistency underneath (i know uniform consistency is not guarenteed, but its the most logical). Has a depth of at least 360,000 kms making it much more of a rectangular shape than previously believed.

Since the centre of gravity of the earth is also much further away than calculated using false 'spherical earth' calculations, we must recalculate this to find the earths mass so we can have a guess at what kind of material is underneath us. I will not bore you with figures (unless of course i am bombarded with claims that i do not know how to do the proper calculations) but in the end the mass of the earth, given the gravitational attraction roughly 180,000kms away from the COG on the surface of our flat earth, works out to be (at bare minimum remember)

350,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 KGs

or about 60 times the mass that the earth is currently believed to be at by the ignorant 'sphereical earth' believers

Given the earths volume for this mass is 20,000,000m x 20,000,000m x 360,000,000m = 144,000,000,000,000,000,000,000m^3

The earths average density must equal

350,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000KGs
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144,000,000,000,000,000,000,000m^3

= 350,000
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144

= 2430.56KG.m^(-3)

=2.43 times the density of water
since 1m^3 of water = 1000KGs

Since the Earths top layer of crust has an average density of about 5 the density of the elements/element underneath would be slightly less than this density as the top layer adds a bit onto the average figures derived

  Borons density = 2.34
and Silicons = 2.33

Since silicon is one of the greatest occuring natural elements near the earths surface (beaten only by iron and one more element if i remember correctly), and it cant be a coincidence that it lines up almost perfectly with my expectations, The above logic combined with what should be common knowledge (that the earth is flat), prooves that the earth is floating on a sea of silicon which has over time leaked through to the earths surface as it tries to rise above the denser crust of the earth (or more accuratly the dense crust is being attracted towards the COG).

Conclusion: since the earth must have a certain minimum depth (if it is to be considered flat as it should be) in order to produce the gravitational effects which we all experience daily and which any moron in his backyard with a telescope can prove (see above), i have concluded that the earth is in fact a 3d rectangular (possibly cylndrical if the flat surface is circular) shape (we live on one of the small surfaces), whose sides are a mimimum of 9 times longer than the top (top from our perspective anyway) that we live on. It is also conclusive that our crust is floating on a sea of silicon or on some other element or mixture of elements with a density around 2.43 times that of water, though if the originally calculated maximum angle Z is less (it cannot be more) than 10 degrees this could mean that different elements are underneath us.[/img]

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« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2005, 12:44:34 PM »
I dub thee troll, Sir Guest.  Thoust shall not receive a bite from me!

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devo

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« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2005, 04:13:07 PM »
Climate is also proof the earth is round. Also, how can you post a picture from outer space, that shows asia and claim thats proof the world is flat. what about everywhere else? there earth is round, its common logic. we wouldnt be here if it were flat. you cant prove the earth is flat, just like you cant prove an orange is flat. they're clearly both round.

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« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2005, 08:36:47 PM »
I agree that the Earth is spherical, but what has a satellite picture of Asia got to do with anything?
lat? Hahahahahaha.... no, Round.

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devo

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« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2005, 01:32:56 AM »
there was a picture a few pages back i was referring to.

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Anonymous

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« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2005, 05:27:06 PM »
You people are crazy. THE EARTH IS A SPHERE| How could we then do a round the world trip or have Comunication satelittes. IF it was flat you could see mount everest since you are on a flat plane and will be able to see it. The arc limits visibility. Ah . The Art of EVOLUTION Checkmate

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shitonashingle

F-L-A-T!
« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2005, 11:09:59 PM »
Quote from: "Anonymous"

Check and mate.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity <-- That should help you guys :)



From wikipedia on "gravity":
"Exactly why two masses separated in space have a gravitational attraction to one another remains largely unknown, despite much research and various theories."

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shitonashingle

ph34r the truth do ya?
« Reply #50 on: July 09, 2005, 11:18:42 PM »
Quote from: "Anonymous"
A) There is no such thing as Centrifugal force... only Centripetal acceleration
B) Image altering technology in the 70s was NO WHERE near capable to create quality fakes like that.
C) when being created in an open space. objects being created generally take on a spherical form. (take for example looking into the stars. every planet and star we see is in a spherical form, its just plain illogical to think that for some reason the earth was created differently)
D)You guys are idiots.
E) Its just a plain matter of times in terms of travel... If you think about it, if the earth were round, the fastest way to get from say New York to Paris would be a straight line through the atlantic ocean, but it is not. The fastest way is to travel in a seemingly curved pattern. That is because the earth is ROUND, and a straight path from one place to another does not exist.

-this post by ph34r... im too lazy to create an account so thats my name.


Oh come on! Secret military technology is decades beyond what we see in the everyday flat world! The stealth bomber that the world recently saw for the first time was made int the seventies! They had todays popular technology a long time ago! A-doy!

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shitonashingle

To the Part-Time Christian...
« Reply #51 on: July 09, 2005, 11:32:25 PM »
Quote from: "All Christian do not believe in the Bible litterally.[/quote


Then why bother? If it didn't happen the way the book says it did, why would you gamble your existence on this flat world and the afterlife on constantly updated, reinterpreted and erroneously translated versions of the book? If you really believe there is a greater plan in motion and there is a glorious afterlife that hinges on your faith and following the rules of the bible shouldn't you follow these rules VERY LITERALLY with the negative consequence being eternal sufffering in hell? You don't get to pick and choose which rules you follow or interpret what the bible "really" means. Get with it John. Don't live your corporeal life half-assed. Do it right or don't do it at all. Now go away or I shall be forced to taunt you for a second time.

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Mario

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« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2005, 05:12:12 PM »
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I know who posted this CHAOS!   :lol:

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conveyance

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« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2005, 10:57:20 PM »
Fresh Lists of Open HTTP Proxies: http://www.checkproxy.net

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« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2005, 11:42:41 PM »
Who gives a rat's ass?

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ChrisDuhfur

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« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2005, 03:54:49 AM »
Quote from: "Anonymous"
Quote from: "Anonymous"

Check and mate.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity <-- That should help you guys :)



Quite obviously, this is a top-down photo of the flat earth! This photo also illustrates how every continent except america is a lie!



 :lol:
he world is flat, get over your false 'science religion'. Accept common sense and sanity for once in your life.

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Quite Stupid

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« Reply #56 on: August 10, 2005, 01:51:57 AM »
Here's ya proof earth is round

Upon arousal, the brain sends signals to the vascular system, which directs blood flow to the penis. Arteries in the penis supply blood to erectile tissues, which become engorged and expand as a result of increased blood flow. As the cavernosal bodies fill up with blood, they squash the veins within the penis against the inner membrane of the shaft. Blood is then trapped within these blood vessels, which makes the penis hard and erect.

For a detailed explanation of the stages of an erection and the possible complications with each stage, read about the erection process.

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cheezerguy

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« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2005, 08:28:36 PM »
If you try to keep watching a boat as it heads out to sea, the reason that you are unable to continue following it as it disappears is because of the large amount of molecules that you must see through after some distance. As the distance gets greater and greater, the number of molecules that get in the way continues to increase.

When you see that an object gets lower as it gets farther away, it is because the molecules closer to the ground are denser than the molecules in the atmosphere and there's also a little bit of isostasy involved as well.

The thickness around the edges of the Earth is thinner than around the middle area also because of isostasy, which also creates a slight arc effect to the terrain of the Earth.

As for the argument about the image modification technology in the 70s - you really have no idea how advanced some of the departments in the government are. Though I don't necessarily subscribe to this idea, I've heard that the government has a secret military base on the other side of the moon that they use to hold meeting with aliens and they can travel there within an hour. This does seem absurd, but wait until you see some sort of evidence supporting this claim that leads to other evidence supporting it.

Sometimes the Earth gets arroused.

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« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2005, 11:18:12 PM »
Quote from: "Anonymous"
Quote from: "Anonymous"

Check and mate.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity <-- That should help you guys :)



Quite obviously, this is a top-down photo of the flat earth! This photo also illustrates how every continent except america is a lie!


Not to be a jerk, but that's Africa there.

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« Reply #59 on: August 11, 2005, 04:07:38 PM »
jerk!