Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?

Quote from: sokarul on April 25, 2021, 09:16:12 PM

Lol, collective-evolution.

Argument from authority!
In scientific work, we seek evidence, not the confirmation of authorities!!

Yes. Seek evidence. Not people’s opinion.

Quote from: flat_theory_is_wrong on April 26, 2021, 01:27:26 AM

Quote from: sokarul on April 25, 2021, 09:16:12 PM

Lol, collective-evolution.

Argument from authority!
In scientific work, we seek evidence, not the confirmation of authorities!!

Yes. Seek evidence. Not people’s opinion.

The People’s opinions could point to some evidence.

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2021/04/19/pro-vaccine-canadian-professor-viral-immunologist-explains-covid-vaccine-concerns/

Conspiracy theory site garbage. Not a real source for news, science or anything else.

Some other 'articles' from that site.

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The Woman Who Claimed She Visited Mars & Spoke To Aliens In 1894

Kendrick Lamar Believes He Saw A UFO & Says He Was ‘Probably’ Abducted By Aliens

LOL. It was probably aliens. I guess.

What a joke.

LOL. It was probably aliens. I guess.

What a joke.

Do you have any Conspiracy theory about Aliens?

Quote from: JJA on May 01, 2021, 06:27:22 PM

LOL. It was probably aliens. I guess.

What a joke.

Do you have any Conspiracy theory about Aliens?

Nope.

The isolation that was proclaimed in connection with the spread of COVID-19 has had a negative impact in absolutely all areas of existence. The surge of coronavirus has prompted a huge number of deaths and has also changed the lives of people. My brother had a cold, and I was also quite worried about this. Coronavirus can have an impact on the life of absolutely all of us. Because I was quite worried if my brother caught a cold, I constantly have an instant analysis in the covid and bought a lot of sars antigen rapid swab tests from , so that, in case I suddenly become weak, I did not go to the clinic, but do the tests at home.

The isolation that was proclaimed in connection with the spread of COVID-19 has had a negative impact in absolutely all areas of existence. The surge of coronavirus has prompted a huge number of deaths and has also changed the lives of people. My brother had a cold, and I was also quite worried about this. Coronavirus can have an impact on the life of absolutely all of us. Because I was quitte worried if my brother caught a cold, I constantly have an instant analysis in the covid and bought a lot of sars antigen rapid swab tests from confirmbiosciences.com, so that, in case I suddenly become weak, I did not go to the clinic, but do the tests at home.

Yes, the COVID-19 virus causes fever, coughing, fatigue, pain everywhere, head ache, loss of taste and smell, throat, nose and stomach problems but, good news, sometimes, nothing at all. Anyway, to protect yourself against dying of fever, coughing, fatigue, pain everywhere, head ache, loss of taste and smell, throat, nose and stomach problems, etc, you better vaxx yourself ... like plenty other idiots. Or, like me, rely on your immune system without vaxx.

Anyway, to protect yourself against dying of fever, coughing, fatigue, pain everywhere, head ache, loss of taste and smell, throat, nose and stomach problems, etc, you better vaxx yourself

Good advice. Vaccinations protect against all of those things, which is why smart people take them.

Quote from: Gael on May 24, 2021, 01:39:42 AM

The isolation that was proclaimed in connection with the spread of COVID-19 has had a negative impact in absolutely all areas of existence. The surge of coronavirus has prompted a huge number of deaths and has also changed the lives of people. My brother had a cold, and I was also quite worried about this. Coronavirus can have an impact on the life of absolutely all of us. Because I was quitte worried if my brother caught a cold, I constantly have an instant analysis in the covid and bought a lot of sars antigen rapid swab tests from confirmbiosciences.com, so that, in case I suddenly become weak, I did not go to the clinic, but do the tests at home.

Yes, the COVID-19 virus causes fever, coughing, fatigue, pain everywhere, head ache, loss of taste and smell, throat, nose and stomach problems but, good news, sometimes, nothing at all. Anyway, to protect yourself against dying of fever, coughing, fatigue, pain everywhere, head ache, loss of taste and smell, throat, nose and stomach problems, etc, you better vaxx yourself ... like plenty other idiots. Or, like me, rely on your immune system without vaxx.

Hmm. And sometimes those that experience 'nothing at all' carry it and pass it on to someone who dies. But of course before they die, they pass it on and so on. Interestingly, some people who experienced nothing at all have shown some kind of permanent damage on the inside. Internal scarring can literally wipe decades off your life should you unknowingly get cancer, a stroke, heart attack etc where you otherwise wouldn't have had.

Just STFU with your apathetic ignorant nonsense old man. You are either trolling here or you really are a despicable, nasty, disgusting human being that any decent bloke would be embarrassed to share the same species as you. Honestly your mind is so vapid, you must be a sub class genus

Quote from: Heiwa on May 24, 2021, 08:09:24 AM

Anyway, to protect yourself against dying of fever, coughing, fatigue, pain everywhere, head ache, loss of taste and smell, throat, nose and stomach problems, etc, you better vaxx yourself

Good advice. Vaccinations protect against all of those things, which is why smart people take them.

Vaccination just activates my immune system against certain diseases caused by virus and microbes, I have been told. And there are already 1000's of virus in the cells of my body and my immune system works fine. So I don't vaxx myself with a patented vaxx of secret composition to stop fever. Actually fever is my immune system getting rid of garbage virus in my body and shouldn't be stopped.

Quote from: JJA on May 24, 2021, 08:14:02 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on May 24, 2021, 08:09:24 AM

Anyway, to protect yourself against dying of fever, coughing, fatigue, pain everywhere, head ache, loss of taste and smell, throat, nose and stomach problems, etc, you better vaxx yourself

Good advice. Vaccinations protect against all of those things, which is why smart people take them.

Vaccination just activates my immune system against certain diseases caused by virus and microbes, I have been told. And there are already 1000's of virus in the cells of my body and my immune system works fine. So I don't vaxx myself with a patented vaxx of secret composition to stop fever. Actually fever is my immune system getting rid of garbage virus in my body and shouldn't be stopped.

Vaccination is for your immune system to make certian virus's defunct in your body.
Also i doubt that there are 1000's of vius in the cells of your body.
You do not know how that works do you heiwa?

Quote from: Heiwa on May 24, 2021, 09:59:15 PM

Quote from: JJA on May 24, 2021, 08:14:02 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on May 24, 2021, 08:09:24 AM

Anyway, to protect yourself against dying of fever, coughing, fatigue, pain everywhere, head ache, loss of taste and smell, throat, nose and stomach problems, etc, you better vaxx yourself

Good advice. Vaccinations protect against all of those things, which is why smart people take them.

Vaccination just activates my immune system against certain diseases caused by virus and microbes, I have been told. And there are already 1000's of virus in the cells of my body and my immune system works fine. So I don't vaxx myself with a patented vaxx of secret composition to stop fever. Actually fever is my immune system getting rid of garbage virus in my body and shouldn't be stopped.

Vaccination is for your immune system to make certian virus's defunct in your body.
Also i doubt that there are 1000's of vius in the cells of your body.
You do not know how that works do you heiwa?

There are 1 000's of virus in living cells of humans, animals, insects, plants, trees and not to forget the oceans. According Wikipedia there are millions of different types of viruses, although fewer than 7 000 types have been described in detail.  I protect myself against all of them by a healthy life avoiding mysterious vaxx developed by cranks.

Well we know alcohol kills viruses and your clearly on the bottle a lot. Maybe that is your secret?

Well we know alcohol kills viruses and your clearly on the bottle a lot. Maybe that is your secret?

Does alcohol kill viruses??? No, it doesn't. Nothing kills viruses. I have 1 000's of viruses in my body. Maybe they live due to the wine and champagne I drink? What to do? Make wine and champagne illegal? You sound like Joe Biden putting a tax on French wine and champagne.

Vaccination just activates my immune system against certain diseases caused by virus and microbes, I have been told.

Viruses and microbes are no match for Heiwa.     
He has an awesome coffee pot.

Actually fever is my immune system getting rid of garbage virus in my body and shouldn't be stopped.

Luckily for you vaccines don't stop your immune system, they make it stronger.  Don't you want a stronger immune system?  Don't you want to avoid spreading a disease to others who might not have a strong one and could die, like your friends and family?

Heiwa is immortal, so it's all kinda irrelevant. 

Quote from: Heiwa on May 24, 2021, 09:59:15 PM

Actually fever is my immune system getting rid of garbage virus in my body and shouldn't be stopped.

Luckily for you vaccines don't stop your immune system, they make it stronger.  Don't you want a stronger immune system?  Don't you want to avoid spreading a disease to others who might not have a strong one and could die, like your friends and family?

My immune system is good without vaxx. And it seems my children's immune systems are also good. And PLEASE, real vaccinations do not stop spreading diseases. They just activate/assist your immune system at little cost. How it works is known since >100 years. What vaxx company do you work for? What magic do you put in your snake oil?  http://heiwaco.com/ch.htm

Quote from: JJA on May 25, 2021, 03:26:08 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on May 24, 2021, 09:59:15 PM

Actually fever is my immune system getting rid of garbage virus in my body and shouldn't be stopped.

Luckily for you vaccines don't stop your immune system, they make it stronger.  Don't you want a stronger immune system?  Don't you want to avoid spreading a disease to others who might not have a strong one and could die, like your friends and family?

My immune system is good without vaxx. And it seems my children's immune systems are also good. And PLEASE, real vaccinations do not stop spreading diseases. They just activate/assist your immune system at little cost. How it works is known since >100 years. What vaxx company do you work for? What magic do you put in your snake oil?  http://heiwaco.com/ch.htm

Other vaccines protect you 100% while the corona shot does around 95% but still better than nothing.
And you need to be vaxxed heiwa.
You wanna die or spread it to your family?
Think about it,if you dont get vaxxed you will get the corona and spread it more.

And PLEASE, real vaccinations do not stop spreading diseases.

I wish there was a way to stop you from spreading your anti vax conspiracy theories and your ignorant bullshit, but sadly no vaccine can help with that. It's sad that your stupidity and ignorance is helping spread disease that kill people. Lucky for you, being an idiot isn't illegal.

Quote from: Heiwa on May 25, 2021, 04:21:29 AM

And PLEASE, real vaccinations do not stop spreading diseases.

I wish there was a way to stop you from spreading your anti vax conspiracy theories and your ignorant bullshit, but sadly no vaccine can help with that. It's sad that your stupidity and ignorance is helping spread disease that kill people. Lucky for you, being an idiot isn't illegal.

People who are antivaxxers are probaly scared of needles and maybe they are anti vaxxers becasue they belive vaccines kill or do something bad.

Quote from: JJA on May 25, 2021, 08:56:00 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on May 25, 2021, 04:21:29 AM

And PLEASE, real vaccinations do not stop spreading diseases.

I wish there was a way to stop you from spreading your anti vax conspiracy theories and your ignorant bullshit, but sadly no vaccine can help with that. It's sad that your stupidity and ignorance is helping spread disease that kill people. Lucky for you, being an idiot isn't illegal.

People who are antivaxxers are probaly scared of needles and maybe they are anti vaxxers becasue they belive vaccines kill or do something bad.

Why would someone disbelieve something that is so provably true and has mountains of evidence behind it and instead rant about insane conspiracy theories full of lies and made up bullshit?

Wish I knew, other than just being flat out crazy.

Quote from: Tsunami on May 25, 2021, 09:10:41 AM

Quote from: JJA on May 25, 2021, 08:56:00 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on May 25, 2021, 04:21:29 AM

And PLEASE, real vaccinations do not stop spreading diseases.

I wish there was a way to stop you from spreading your anti vax conspiracy theories and your ignorant bullshit, but sadly no vaccine can help with that. It's sad that your stupidity and ignorance is helping spread disease that kill people. Lucky for you, being an idiot isn't illegal.

People who are antivaxxers are probaly scared of needles and maybe they are anti vaxxers becasue they belive vaccines kill or do something bad.

Why would someone disbelieve something that is so provably true and has mountains of evidence behind it and instead rant about insane conspiracy theories full of lies and made up bullshit?

Wish I knew, other than just being flat out crazy.

People dont believe they work or belive something bad happens like i said.
Some people before believed corona was fake and you know what they got? CORONA.
Now people belive vaccines are bad and kill but your chances of surviele are much better with vaccine than without vaccine.
Sometimes i have no hope for humanity when it comes to these things.
And if you wanna rant take it to AR.

And if you wanna rant take it to AR.

If Hewia can rant about his made up anti-vax garbage, I can certainly rant back.

I'd happily have all my posts in this thread get moved to AR if it took Hewia's with them.

Quote from: Heiwa on May 25, 2021, 04:21:29 AM

And PLEASE, real vaccinations do not stop spreading diseases.

I wish there was a way to stop you from spreading your anti vax conspiracy theories and your ignorant bullshit, but sadly no vaccine can help with that. It's sad that your stupidity and ignorance is helping spread disease that kill people. Lucky for you, being an idiot isn't illegal.

I just inform that there are 1000's of viruses that have invaded living cells of humans, animals, plants, trees and the oceans since millions of years and that the best way to avoid alleged virus diseases is be in shape with an immune system that works correctly. I had been vaccinated many times until 1972 and always gotten ill, so I avoid it since almost 50 years and after 100's of travel trips in Asia, Africa and America. When I fall ill I use acupuncture to get well.

Quote from: JJA on May 25, 2021, 08:56:00 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on May 25, 2021, 04:21:29 AM

And PLEASE, real vaccinations do not stop spreading diseases.

I wish there was a way to stop you from spreading your anti vax conspiracy theories and your ignorant bullshit, but sadly no vaccine can help with that. It's sad that your stupidity and ignorance is helping spread disease that kill people. Lucky for you, being an idiot isn't illegal.

I just inform that there are 1000's of viruses that have invaded living cells of humans, animals, plants, trees and the oceans since millions of years and that the best way to avoid alleged virus diseases is be in shape with an immune system that works correctly. I had been vaccinated many times until 1972 and always gotten ill, so I avoid it since almost 50 years and after 100's of travel trips in Asia, Africa and America. When I fall ill I use acupuncture to get well.

You get ill because your body is getting itself immune to whatever virus.
Also some vaccines are weaker versons of the virus.
Then some are dead versons.
Plus i get sick from flu shots but always end up getting immune later on for some time.

Quote from: Heiwa on May 25, 2021, 11:03:33 PM

Quote from: JJA on May 25, 2021, 08:56:00 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on May 25, 2021, 04:21:29 AM

And PLEASE, real vaccinations do not stop spreading diseases.

I wish there was a way to stop you from spreading your anti vax conspiracy theories and your ignorant bullshit, but sadly no vaccine can help with that. It's sad that your stupidity and ignorance is helping spread disease that kill people. Lucky for you, being an idiot isn't illegal.

I just inform that there are 1000's of viruses that have invaded living cells of humans, animals, plants, trees and the oceans since millions of years and that the best way to avoid alleged virus diseases is be in shape with an immune system that works correctly. I had been vaccinated many times until 1972 and always gotten ill, so I avoid it since almost 50 years and after 100's of travel trips in Asia, Africa and America. When I fall ill I use acupuncture to get well.

You get ill because your body is getting itself immune to whatever virus.
Also some vaccines are weaker versions of the virus.
Then some are dead versions.
Plus i get sick from flu shots but always end up getting immune later on for some time.

I don't get ill because my immune system works.
So I don't need vaccines.
Especially not dead vaxx versions.

Quote from: Tsunami on May 26, 2021, 07:37:40 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on May 25, 2021, 11:03:33 PM

Quote from: JJA on May 25, 2021, 08:56:00 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on May 25, 2021, 04:21:29 AM

And PLEASE, real vaccinations do not stop spreading diseases.

I wish there was a way to stop you from spreading your anti vax conspiracy theories and your ignorant bullshit, but sadly no vaccine can help with that. It's sad that your stupidity and ignorance is helping spread disease that kill people. Lucky for you, being an idiot isn't illegal.

I just inform that there are 1000's of viruses that have invaded living cells of humans, animals, plants, trees and the oceans since millions of years and that the best way to avoid alleged virus diseases is be in shape with an immune system that works correctly. I had been vaccinated many times until 1972 and always gotten ill, so I avoid it since almost 50 years and after 100's of travel trips in Asia, Africa and America. When I fall ill I use acupuncture to get well.

You get ill because your body is getting itself immune to whatever virus.
Also some vaccines are weaker versions of the virus.
Then some are dead versions.
Plus i get sick from flu shots but always end up getting immune later on for some time.

I don't get ill because my immune system works.
So I don't need vaccines.
Especially not dead vaxx versions.

I have no hope for humanity anymore....

If you don't want to get vaccinated, don't.
I'm vaccinated. I'll be fine.
I honestly don't give a fuck if someone chooses to risk their own life.
Again, I'm vaccinated, I'll be fine.

If you don't want to get vaccinated, don't.
I'm vaccinated. I'll be fine.
I honestly don't give a fuck if someone chooses to risk their own life.
Again, I'm vaccinated, I'll be fine.

This. Once everyone who wants a vaccine, has had the opportunity to get one, frankly fuck the others. If they want to roll the dice, it's their throw.

At some point, we just have to accept covid infection and death as a yearly reality. Much like we shrug at the thousands every year who die from influenza - which with a vaccine is usually almost entirely preventable