HOLY FICUS TREES ILHAN OMAR IS GOOD

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4779974/representative-omar-clashes-elliott-abrams-us-military-role-central-america

It's so good to see the tide changing one step at a time. That was brilliant. You need more politicians willing to say this sort of stuff. Actually, not just you. The world does. Remember how your decisions affect other countries, you live in one of the world's superpowers, which means you have various privileges as a country but it also means you have to think more about how what your representatives do affects other countries.

Thank you... for your participation.
That shit cracked me up.

Thank you... for your participation.
That shit cracked me up.

Yeah that was pretty great. I love how angry he got.

Omar sounds like a troll but it is typical political 'question time' tactics

She brings up something from 20 odd years ago and for whatever reason he did and for whatever reason why, he was pardoned.

Maybe she should look at what that means

He answers 'no' to a massacre being some achievement to which she says 'I'll take that as a yes' because she clearly had a script she wanted to follow

She then tries to assert that the US must have some policy where human rights and crimes against humanity are actively opposed hence her so called question at the very end. It took over 4 minutes to get to her simple question 

He was involved in the Iran-Contra affair and was pardoned by Bush.

Elliott Abrams has literally surrended. his  body language clearly reveals that the lose. in the last part, Ömer deliberately softens her rhetoric, because the responder has apparently lost his concentration. US policies always for some companies, not for national interests. This can be provable and I'll plan to do it soon with documents. I just need a time for solving the documents.

Omar sounds like a troll but it is typical political 'question time' tactics

She brings up something from 20 odd years ago and for whatever reason he did and for whatever reason why, he was pardoned.

Maybe she should look at what that means

It means that they have no reason to trust someone who withheld information on fucking war crimes and let them happen, and also plead guilty to two counts of withhelding information for the Iran-Contra affair, to handle a similar situation in the present. It means they should not trust the wolf to guard the sheep.

He answers 'no' to a massacre being some achievement to which she says 'I'll take that as a yes' because she clearly had a script she wanted to follow

No, it's because everything else that he said and did points towards "yes".

She then tries to assert that the US must have some policy where human rights and crimes against humanity are actively opposed

Yes, it's called "foreign policy".

Lol CNN analyst and WaPo columnist Max Boot is not happy about this:


That's definitely a good thing, coming from this guy:
https://www.rt.com/usa/450201-max-boot-mideast-genocide/

Why do these people whose idea of human rights is endless war have a job?

Endless war keeps the population feeling patriotic, while making shitloads of money for private military contractors. There is a thing here in Americaland that if you criticize the govt during wartime you are being unpatriotic. You must fly your flag and pledge your allegiance or you're a dirty commie traitor. 

I guess any of you have nothing to say about her anti-Semitic remarks that she keeps having to apologize for.

I guess any of you have nothing to say about her anti-Semitic remarks that she keeps having to apologize for.

They are not antisemitic and she shouldn't have apologized, because it kind of legitimized her critics.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/432504-house-dems-to-vote-on-resolution-in-response-to-omars-latest-israel-remarks?__twitter_impression=true

WTF is happening?? Why are your politicians acting like that?? Apparently questioning the US-Israel relationship is... a vile slur?? They're trying harder to denounce her than they did with Steven King and the blackface democrat guy, it's surreal...

Would they be as pissed at her if she'd said some lawmaker's defense of Israel is motivated by their desire for the apocalypse?

I don't know if she's a good politician or not, but I agree with her that she shouldn't have to pledge loyalty to another country in order to serve this one.

Ilhan is great. I have bet 100$ that she gets assassinated.

No, I have not.

Would they be as pissed at her if she'd said some lawmaker's defense of Israel is motivated by their desire for the apocalypse?

Lol I forgot these weirdos existed.

Those weirdos have a lot of power in the US.

Gotta love the irony...

"AIPAC lobby promises to destroy any politicians who dare suggest it threatens politicians."

Gotta love the irony...

"AIPAC lobby promises to destroy any politicians who dare suggest it threatens politicians."

Yeah, if anything they're proving her point.

Quote from: JerkFace on March 05, 2019, 11:01:44 PM

Gotta love the irony...

"AIPAC lobby promises to destroy any politicians who dare suggest it threatens politicians."

Yeah, if anything they're proving her point.

Umm.....  I didn't think I needed to explain it,  but you either get it or you don't. 

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 05, 2019, 11:33:32 PM

Quote from: JerkFace on March 05, 2019, 11:01:44 PM

Gotta love the irony...

"AIPAC lobby promises to destroy any politicians who dare suggest it threatens politicians."

Yeah, if anything they're proving her point.

Umm.....  I didn't think I needed to explain it,  but you either get it or you don't.

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Quote from: JerkFace on March 06, 2019, 02:05:54 AM

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 05, 2019, 11:33:32 PM

Quote from: JerkFace on March 05, 2019, 11:01:44 PM

Gotta love the irony...

"AIPAC lobby promises to destroy any politicians who dare suggest it threatens politicians."

Yeah, if anything they're proving her point.

Umm.....  I didn't think I needed to explain it,  but you either get it or you don't.

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AIPAC only attacks islamic Dems,  they seem to ignore the GOP's anti-semites

So when they attack Ilhan Omar,  it's not because she said anything anti-semitic  ( she didn't ) it's because they are being islamophobic. 

So they are literally doing themselves what they are attacking Ilhan Omar for.

This article isn't about Ilhan Omar, but it is about loyalty to Israel. I just don't get it. What does boycotting Israel even mean? If you live in the US, and aren't Jewish, I can't think of anything to buy that is made in Israel.  https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/pro-israel-loyalty-oath-required-to-do-business-with-texas-aandm-11589214  Why do Americans need to swear loyalty to a foreign country? I don't care if it's Israel or England, we shouldn't have to give up our right to boycott anything we please for any stupid reason. Even if the reason is racist, it's still a person's right to boycott or not.

What does boycotting Israel even mean?

It mostly has to do with businesses disinvesting and ceasing relations with them etc, and citing BDS as the reason. But you're right that it makes no sense. And yet people have gotten in trouble over this (some states have adopted anti-BDS laws). Boycotting apartheid states allied to the US is bad, mkay?

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on March 06, 2019, 05:03:59 PM

What does boycotting Israel even mean?

It mostly has to do with businesses disinvesting and ceasing relations with them etc, and citing BDS as the reason. But you're right that it makes no sense. And yet people have gotten in trouble over this (some states have adopted anti-BDS laws). Boycotting apartheid states allied to the US is bad, mkay?

Looks like it backfired. 

https://newrepublic.com/article/153229/ilhan-omars-victory-political-sanity

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 06, 2019, 10:27:52 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on March 06, 2019, 05:03:59 PM

What does boycotting Israel even mean?

It mostly has to do with businesses disinvesting and ceasing relations with them etc, and citing BDS as the reason. But you're right that it makes no sense. And yet people have gotten in trouble over this (some states have adopted anti-BDS laws). Boycotting apartheid states allied to the US is bad, mkay?

Looks like it backfired. 

https://newrepublic.com/article/153229/ilhan-omars-victory-political-sanity

Good.

Aside from my extreme dislike of Ilhan Omar for residing in this country illegally (having married her brother in order to take advantage of that immigration loophole) and for benefiting from Barry's importation and placement of thousands of Somali immigrants in her district in Minnesota...

She, herself, is Semitic.

Kinda hard to be anti-Semitic when you are Semitic.

Aside from my extreme dislike of Ilhan Omar for residing in this country illegally (having married her brother in order to take advantage of that immigration loophole)

She did not marry her brother.  Put up some evidence, or shut the fuck up.

Kinda hard to be anti-Semitic when you are Semitic.

Antisemitic is commonly understood to mean "Anti-Jewish", and has done since the 19th century.  As the wiki says:

"The root word Semite gives the false impression that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic people, e.g., including Arabs and Assyrians. The compound word antisemite was popularized in Germany in 1879[7] as a scientific-sounding term for Judenhass ("Jew-hatred"),[8][9][10][11][12] and this has been its common use since then."

So, of course she can be antisemitic.  Not that I think she is.

Totallackey's gonna totallackey.

Quote from: totallackey on March 07, 2019, 04:19:37 AM

Aside from my extreme dislike of Ilhan Omar for residing in this country illegally (having married her brother in order to take advantage of that immigration loophole)

She did not marry her brother.  Put up some evidence, or shut the fuck up.

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Kinda hard to be anti-Semitic when you are Semitic.

Antisemitic is commonly understood to mean "Anti-Jewish", and has done since the 19th century.  As the wiki says:

"The root word Semite gives the false impression that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic people, e.g., including Arabs and Assyrians. The compound word antisemite was popularized in Germany in 1879[7] as a scientific-sounding term for Judenhass ("Jew-hatred"),[8][9][10][11][12] and this has been its common use since then."

So, of course she can be antisemitic.  Not that I think she is.

She does not even speak a Semitic language as her mother tongue. Somali is Cushitic.