Brexit

I have no interest in trawling your posts to determine your heritage.
Some Greeks might well be anti EU, especially since Tsipras, but you have to stay in because know that you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you...literally.

"Since" Tsipras? Tsipras was elected because people were anti-EU, not the other way around, and Tsipras is now pro-EU, in fact he's citing the shitfest going on in Britain right now as an example for how he made the right choice to compromise.

Quote from: MS on March 22, 2019, 07:39:27 AM

I have no interest in trawling your posts to determine your heritage.
Some Greeks might well be anti EU, especially since Tsipras, but you have to stay in because know that you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you...literally.

"Since" Tsipras? Tsipras was elected because people were anti-EU, not the other way around, and Tsipras is now pro-EU, in fact he's citing the shitfest going on in Britain right now as an example for how he made the right choice to compromise.

Voted because he was anti EU, exactly. Which bit didn't you understand? Now he's pro EU, what a surprise. Not much choice really. Compromise? Again, what choice did you have?

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 22, 2019, 07:43:23 AM

Quote from: MS on March 22, 2019, 07:39:27 AM

I have no interest in trawling your posts to determine your heritage.
Some Greeks might well be anti EU, especially since Tsipras, but you have to stay in because know that you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you...literally.

"Since" Tsipras? Tsipras was elected because people were anti-EU, not the other way around, and Tsipras is now pro-EU, in fact he's citing the shitfest going on in Britain right now as an example for how he made the right choice to compromise.

Voted because he was anti EU, exactly. Which bit didn't you understand? Now he's pro EU, what a surprise. Not much choice really. Compromise? Again, what choice did you have?

Τhe other choice we were given was Grexit because they were not willing to give us better terms. Grexit would have been really bad, so we didn't do that.

Better terms? LOL
Try running up a huge bill at a hotel then trying to check out without paying. Better terms like that you mean?
Greece has a debt that is 180 percent of GDP and the taxpayers of other EU nations are fed up of bailing you out.

Another reason why leaving the EU is a good idea.

The UK is one of 10 nations out of 28 that puts more in than they ever get back and Greece is way down the list, just above Latvia. Better terms my arse.

https://twitter.com/JewishTelegraph/status/1109145636216152065

Just for context as to how freaking weird british politics is at the moment.
Not gonna lie, still better than some other brexit plans.

Short version: Uri Geller wrote a letter to the PM.

Not exactly British politics is it, just some nutty has been looking for the limelight.

Not exactly British politics is it, just some nutty has been looking for the limelight.

Nope. Uri Geller will stop brexit with the power of his mind. That's where we are now.

Well, I suppose at least he's using his mind unlike most of the current Government.

Better terms? LOL
Try running up a huge bill at a hotel then trying to check out without paying. Better terms like that you mean?
Greece has a debt that is 180 percent of GDP and the taxpayers of other EU nations are fed up of bailing you out.

Another reason why leaving the EU is a good idea.

The UK is one of 10 nations out of 28 that puts more in than they ever get back and Greece is way down the list, just above Latvia. Better terms my arse.

You really don't understand shit about the Greek debt crisis, do you? Do you know which country pays the most while getting very little back if you only look at the EU budget? Germany. Either Germany got a shit deal and they should be wanting to get out of the union, or you're an idiot who can only think one dimensionally.

Quote from: MS on March 22, 2019, 01:50:26 PM

Not exactly British politics is it, just some nutty has been looking for the limelight.

Nope. Uri Geller will stop brexit with the power of his mind. That's where we are now.

Can he make Farage disappear?

Quote from: MS on March 22, 2019, 01:47:48 PM

Better terms? LOL
Try running up a huge bill at a hotel then trying to check out without paying. Better terms like that you mean?
Greece has a debt that is 180 percent of GDP and the taxpayers of other EU nations are fed up of bailing you out.

Another reason why leaving the EU is a good idea.

The UK is one of 10 nations out of 28 that puts more in than they ever get back and Greece is way down the list, just above Latvia. Better terms my arse.

You really don't understand shit about the Greek debt crisis, do you? Do you know which country pays the most while getting very little back if you only look at the EU budget? Germany. Either Germany got a shit deal and they should be wanting to get out of the union, or you're an idiot who can only think one dimensionally.

I don't care about the Greek debt crisis. It's your debt, so why should everyone else have to get you out of it?
(not that you will for some considerable time, so enjoy your subsidised stay). Although if you'd like to enlighten me so that I might 'understand' it, in simple terms of course, please do.
Which country gets the least back, well it isn't Greece is it? You should ask a few people in Germany, see how they feel about funding the shit end of the EU.
Losing an arguement usually shows itself by the insults one gives and you've given plenty. I'll see in the summer for my holidays, thats all you've got.

Although if you'd like to enlighten me so that I might 'understand' it, in simple terms of course, please do.

Do you have any explanation of why they pretended they thought our economy was solid enough to enter the eurozone? Or why they lent a bunch of money to an irresponsible government which they knew we couldn't repay (before the crisis)? Or why they keep forcing us to follow austerity policies which even the IMF has conceded don't work? The deal you had was actually great, you're gonna find out now if you leave. You even controlled your own powerful currency. On the contrary, we effectively don't have sovereignty any more and we only receive enough money just to stay afloat and keep repaying loans.

Which country gets the least back, well it isn't Greece is it? You should ask a few people in Germany, see how they feel about funding the shit end of the EU.

LOL so the EU is just a giant scheme from the poorer and weaker countries to rip off Germany? Get a grip.

Do you have any explanation of why they pretended they thought our economy was solid enough to enter the eurozone?

You were a land buffer where fighting off an invasion would not harm Europe.

In answer to your first rambling rant, I don't care. Austerity?...boo hoo, get a grip yourself.
The second part? You mentioned Germany, so I just put it back to you. There are more countries to pick from. I didn't suggest any scheme or plan, just Germany is another country that isn't as happy at funding the freeloaders as you seem to think.
If you can't explain why I should care or understand, then I suppose I'll just have to keep being one dimensional.

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 23, 2019, 01:38:28 PM

Do you have any explanation of why they pretended they thought our economy was solid enough to enter the eurozone?

You were a land buffer where fighting off an invasion would not harm Europe.

The eurozone is the countries which use euros.

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 23, 2019, 01:38:28 PM

Do you have any explanation of why they pretended they thought our economy was solid enough to enter the eurozone?

You were a land buffer where fighting off an invasion would not harm Europe.

You think Europe was likely to be invaded? Surely not, with the might of the EU protecting us. Or maybe the Greeks would fend off any invasion?

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 23, 2019, 01:44:08 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 23, 2019, 01:38:28 PM

Do you have any explanation of why they pretended they thought our economy was solid enough to enter the eurozone?

You were a land buffer where fighting off an invasion would not harm Europe.

The eurozone is the countries which use euros.

I thought you were part of the EU.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 23, 2019, 01:44:08 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 23, 2019, 01:38:28 PM

Do you have any explanation of why they pretended they thought our economy was solid enough to enter the eurozone?

You were a land buffer where fighting off an invasion would not harm Europe.

The eurozone is the countries which use euros.

Ah, euros. We don't use them here, we kept our sovereignty.

In answer to your first rambling rant, I don't care. Austerity?...boo hoo, get a grip yourself.

Wow, truly the master of the argument.

The second part? You mentioned Germany, so I just put it back to you. There are more countries to pick from. I didn't suggest any scheme or plan, just Germany is another country that isn't as happy at funding the freeloaders as you seem to think.

So the #1 most powerful country in the EU and de facto leader oddly enough keeps funding us even though it is totally against the interests because... Maybe we're super powerful after all and we forced them to? Wow, maybe Germany should be wanting to exit the EU as well...

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 23, 2019, 01:47:39 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 23, 2019, 01:44:08 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 23, 2019, 01:38:28 PM

Do you have any explanation of why they pretended they thought our economy was solid enough to enter the eurozone?

You were a land buffer where fighting off an invasion would not harm Europe.

The eurozone is the countries which use euros.

I thought you were part of the EU.

Both.

Quote from: MS on March 23, 2019, 01:46:09 PM

In answer to your first rambling rant, I don't care. Austerity?...boo hoo, get a grip yourself.

Wow, truly the master of the argument.

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The second part? You mentioned Germany, so I just put it back to you. There are more countries to pick from. I didn't suggest any scheme or plan, just Germany is another country that isn't as happy at funding the freeloaders as you seem to think.

So the #1 most powerful country in the EU and de facto leader oddly enough keeps funding us even though it is totally against the interests because... Maybe we're super powerful after all and we forced them to? Wow, maybe Germany should be wanting to exit the EU as well...

It's simpler than that. You ain't going nowhere until you paid your debts.

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 23, 2019, 01:51:29 PM

Quote from: MS on March 23, 2019, 01:46:09 PM

In answer to your first rambling rant, I don't care. Austerity?...boo hoo, get a grip yourself.

Wow, truly the master of the argument.

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The second part? You mentioned Germany, so I just put it back to you. There are more countries to pick from. I didn't suggest any scheme or plan, just Germany is another country that isn't as happy at funding the freeloaders as you seem to think.

So the #1 most powerful country in the EU and de facto leader oddly enough keeps funding us even though it is totally against the interests because... Maybe we're super powerful after all and we forced them to? Wow, maybe Germany should be wanting to exit the EU as well...

It's simpler than that. You ain't going nowhere until you paid your debts.

Wow, and here I thought they were just funding us and getting nothing out of it! You still didn't explain why they lent billions to an irresponsible government which was doing nothing with it, why they let us in the eurozone prematurely, or why they are insisting on a failed strategy to fix our issues.

If I knew that, I'd be doing their job, not them. Then again, why let Bulgaria and Romania join? I don't know, maybe cheap labour? ( Just using the German refugee model there)

What are your thoughts Pez, oh wise one?

If I knew that, I'd be doing their job, not them. Then again, why let Bulgaria and Romania join? I don't know, maybe cheap labour? ( Just using the German refugee model there)

What are your thoughts Pez, oh wise one?

I think they let them join because they were forced to. We are all collaborating to rip off Germany, we're far more powerful than you could ever imagine. Good thing you're leaving, because we were coming for you next.

...and with that empty answer the arguemnet is exhausted. I thank you.

...and with that empty answer the arguemnet is exhausted. I thank you.

It was exhausted the moment you started saying blatant falsities and couldn't comprehend simple concepts. Bye.

 

I actually can't tell if these people are for or against brexit.

Quote from: MS on March 23, 2019, 02:19:01 PM

...and with that empty answer the arguemnet is exhausted. I thank you.

It was exhausted the moment you started saying blatant falsities and couldn't comprehend simple concepts. Bye.

In other words MS is a typical brexiteer,  all lies and pig ignorance.

Do the Tories not know what a "Grand Wizard" is?