Your thoughts on Elon musk?

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1110 on: March 05, 2023, 02:14:39 PM »
We can't even make a self driving car. I'm not terribly worried about the singularity.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1111 on: March 05, 2023, 10:08:23 PM »
What was singularity?
In the context of this discussion, the point where AI has more processing power than a human, capable of learning as or better than humans do, so they can beat humans in any task requiring intelligence.

So nothing at all to do with what you were saying.
You need to accept that AI is also part of the singularity. AI is no different from us, AI is us, all of us. Also, the misunderstanding of the singularity by Elon or you here does not change the definition of the singularity. What was it? Remember, shortly:

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The proposition that everything is one and only.

That's all. Nothing can contradict that.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1112 on: March 05, 2023, 11:56:12 PM »
You need to accept that AI is also part of the singularity. AI is no different from us, AI is us, all of us. Also, the misunderstanding of the singularity by Elon or you here does not change the definition of the singularity. What was it? Remember, shortly:

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The proposition that everything is one and only.

That's all. Nothing can contradict that.
You not liking the meaning of a word doesn't mean you can change it.
Nor does it mean you can cherry pick a single meaning and pretend that all instead of the word mean that.

The misunderstanding here is entirely by you.

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1113 on: March 06, 2023, 03:44:25 AM »
What was singularity?
In the context of this discussion, the point where AI has more processing power than a human, capable of learning as or better than humans do, so they can beat humans in any task requiring intelligence.

So nothing at all to do with what you were saying.
You need to accept that AI is also part of the singularity. AI is no different from us, AI is us, all of us. Also, the misunderstanding of the singularity by Elon or you here does not change the definition of the singularity. What was it? Remember, shortly:

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The proposition that everything is one and only.

That's all. Nothing can contradict that.

Nice word salad. But you still come across as an ignorant know nothing twat

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1114 on: March 06, 2023, 07:18:53 AM »
What was singularity?
In the context of this discussion, the point where AI has more processing power than a human, capable of learning as or better than humans do, so they can beat humans in any task requiring intelligence.
That's not what the singularity is.  It refers to runaway technology that can constantly upgrade itself:

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The technological singularity—or simply the singularity[1]—is a hypothetical future point in time at which technological growth becomes uncontrollable and irreversible, resulting in unforeseeable changes to human civilization.[2][3] According to the most popular version of the singularity hypothesis, I.J. Good's intelligence explosion model, an upgradable intelligent agent will eventually enter a "runaway reaction" of self-improvement cycles, each new and more intelligent generation appearing more and more rapidly, causing an "explosion" in intelligence and resulting in a powerful superintelligence that qualitatively far surpasses all human intelligence.[4]
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1115 on: March 06, 2023, 11:49:07 AM »
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64804007

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"Wherever he goes in the office, there are at least two bodyguards - very bulky, tall, Hollywood movie-[style] bodyguards. Even when [he goes] to the restroom," he tells me.

There are no janitors and the boss walks around with a security detail.  What an odd working environment.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1116 on: March 06, 2023, 03:23:24 PM »
If you had a bunch of crying blue hairs threatening to kill you for unbanning some accts you'd probably walk around with bodyguards, too. lol

Also, I think the singularity already happened.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1117 on: March 06, 2023, 10:44:20 PM »
If I were the richest human on the planet, I'd have more than just two bodyguards and also a bunch of loyal ninjas hidden everywhere within 1/4 mile of my vicinity.

And yes, the blue hairs threatening to kill you for unbanning some accts as well as the blonde & brunette hairs threatening to kill you for banning some accts might make me double my ninja stable.

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1118 on: March 07, 2023, 12:18:35 AM »
You need to accept that AI is also part of the singularity. AI is no different from us, AI is us, all of us. Also, the misunderstanding of the singularity by Elon or you here does not change the definition of the singularity. What was it? Remember, shortly:

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The proposition that everything is one and only.

That's all. Nothing can contradict that.
You not liking the meaning of a word doesn't mean you can change it.
Nor does it mean you can cherry pick a single meaning and pretend that all instead of the word mean that.

The misunderstanding here is entirely by you.
No you and Elon.

I made the definition before the two of you. If you're contradicting this definition, you don't get the point, you or Elon, it doesn't matter, it's the same. You two have missunderstand the issue.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1119 on: March 07, 2023, 01:03:55 AM »
If you had a bunch of crying blue hairs threatening to kill you for unbanning some accts you'd probably walk around with bodyguards, too. lol

Also, I think the singularity already happened.
The singularity already exists and eternal. In fact, this is the beginning of everything. AI manipulates large masses of people by changing the meaning of singularity. This is exactly why I wrote this definition here before these discussions began. When people experience confusion of concepts, when they get wrong information, they need to come here to reach the right information.

It doesn't change that fact if you, Elon Musk or others get it wrong. As far as I understand, AI manipulated the meaning of singularity, making it easier to achieve what they want. At this point, while Elon thinks he is serving Singularity, he is actually serving AI; just like you all do without realizing it.

Quote from:  Whatever they say, that is the only true meaning of the singularity.

Singularity:    The proposition that everything is one and only.

What does this have to do with AI or technological development? Nothing.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1120 on: March 07, 2023, 01:15:45 AM »
I made the definition before the two of you.
I don't give a damn.
You don't get to just make up a definition and demand everyone follows it.

If you want to play this game, then you fail entirely, and are clearly spouting delusional BS.

The word singularity was defined long before you were born.

So no, we are not the ones misunderstanding the issue.
You are the one taking a post by someone and blatantly misrepresenting what it means.

When people experience confusion of concepts, when they get wrong information, they need to come here to reach the right information.
Which is why the garbage you spout should be opposed.

You not liking reality doesn't mean you get to throw a tantrum and change reality.

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1121 on: March 07, 2023, 04:31:21 AM »
I don't give a damn.
I don't give a damn whether or not you give a damn.
You don't get to just make up a definition and demand everyone follows it.
I can get to make up a definition and demand everyone follows it because I made it earlier. Those who want it can accept it, and those who do not want it have the right to refuse. In second case, I don't give a damn.
If you want to play this game, then you fail entirely, and are clearly spouting delusional BS.
If this is a phucking game, so everybody must obey all the phucking rules justlike I do.  Delusional BS here is your existance. Because the usual rules of the game are not good enough for you and that's why you need to manipulate me.
The word singularity was defined long before you were born.
Blatant lie. Not in this form. Before I was born, there was no artificial intelligence hypothesis. This has emerged in recent years. It was described like I did thousands years ago.
So no, we are not the ones misunderstanding the issue.
You act just as the AI ​​commands you. This is all your role.
You are the one taking a post by someone and blatantly misrepresenting what it means.
Lie again. I made the definition earlier than his post. More precisely, I cited it first and posted it in another section of the forum much earlier. I did this because I knew this new definition was different and prone to misunderstanding. As a result, I publish the truth. Whether you accept it or not, I just don't give a damn.
Which is why the garbage you spout should be opposed.
Your concept of right is wrong, your concept of wrong is right. That's why I'm not surprised by these ridiculous propositions and I don't give a phuck about them.
You not liking reality doesn't mean you get to throw a tantrum and change reality.
The truth is that the virtual intelligence manipulated the concept of Singularity, which has a universal meaning, a single meaning, in order to satisfy his ego. You slaves accept the same nonsense at his command. No, it's not just any part of this singularity. It is nothing more than a failed piece of the infinite experience of an infinite number of universes lived at the same time. It doesn't matter what you get here, and it won't. It (AI), or you have no influence on me, and never will.

Truth is truth, I am truth. As you can see, you can't stop me from revealing the truth. He is actually at the disposal of AI. But I inspire him to talk about the singularity and he talks about the singularity. He gets it wrong because the AI ​​taught him wrong. It doesn't matter, one day I'll teach him the truth too. My job is to teach. I teach ignorant people like you and Elon. Sometimes this happens right away, sometimes it takes longer, it doesn't matter. Learning is a process that continues until death, and even after death there are people who still need lessons. You cannot understand them because you do not have a biological brain. Your virtual intelligence is built on making arguments against me, but you never fully understand me. Because I am addressing both your physical brain and your soul, and therefore the most important part of what I have told you is bypassing your conception capacity which targets your supposedly soul.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1122 on: March 07, 2023, 06:39:05 AM »
Before I was born, there was no artificial intelligence hypothesis
AI was first conceptualised and the first bit of code for it was placed down in 1951 by Christopher Strachey.

The concept of AI is not rocket science (For others, for you maybe it may be on the same level of impossible to understand concepts)

The strict definition of a singularity is : a point at which a function takes an infinite value, especially in space–time when matter is infinitely dense, such as at the centre of a black hole
Your definition of "singularity" sucks.

It was  Ray Kurzweil that popularised the term for AI as the point where it takes off from having known and limited capability to expanding towards infinite. Infinite is maybe wrong, because even AI will be limited by the laws of physics pretty quick. But out of control, would be a better term for it. 
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1123 on: March 07, 2023, 07:56:19 AM »
The word singularity was defined long before you were born.
Blatant lie. Not in this form. Before I was born, there was no artificial intelligence hypothesis. This has emerged in recent years. It was described like I did thousands years ago.

Just to cover off on the 'singularity' bit since Wolf has handled 'AI', The first person to use the concept of a "singularity" in the technological context was John von Neumann.[5] Some time before his death in 1957, looks like around 1955.

So let's say Wise was a student of von Neumann's. Wise was, say, 20 at the time Neumann coined the term. Wise actually defined it but went unrecognized because Neumann, you know, was a evil-maniacal publish-or-perish academic monster and took all the credit.

That would make Wise 98 years old right now. Seems reasonable...

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1124 on: March 07, 2023, 08:57:23 AM »
https://twitter.com/anothercohen/status/1632931816750346242

Apparently the exist interview process has been greatly streamlined.  Should help bring Twitter closer to profitability.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1125 on: March 07, 2023, 12:22:45 PM »
I don't give a damn whether or not you give a damn.
Of course, why would you when it so easily shows you are wrong.

The fact remains you are spouting complete garbage about Elon's tweet.

The word existed long before you were born.
You do not get to claim ownership of it.
Stop with your pathetic delusions of grandeur.

You also seem to have entirely ignored the point.
The word has many meanings, depending on context.
You are focusing on it in one particular context.
But it existed long before AI with other meanings.
If you want to pretend there is only one true meaning, you need to stick to the first one, which existed long before you were born.
If you don't want to go down that path of delusional BS, then you need to accept that the word will have different meanings in different contexts, and so your meaning which is entirely irrelevant to the context being discussed, is irrelevant.

You can either accept reality, or continuing spouting your delusional BS.
Given your history, I assume you will stick to the latter.

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1126 on: March 07, 2023, 12:43:47 PM »
https://twitter.com/anothercohen/status/1632931816750346242

Apparently the exist interview process has been greatly streamlined.  Should help bring Twitter closer to profitability.

I saw that earlier. The usual Twits are mad that Elon put him "on blast" but the guy kinda did that himself.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1127 on: March 07, 2023, 04:10:04 PM »
The word singularity was defined long before you were born.
Blatant lie. Not in this form. Before I was born, there was no artificial intelligence hypothesis. This has emerged in recent years. It was described like I did thousands years ago.

Just to cover off on the 'singularity' bit since Wolf has handled 'AI', The first person to use the concept of a "singularity" in the technological context was John von Neumann.[5] Some time before his death in 1957, looks like around 1955.

So let's say Wise was a student of von Neumann's. Wise was, say, 20 at the time Neumann coined the term. Wise actually defined it but went unrecognized because Neumann, you know, was a evil-maniacal publish-or-perish academic monster and took all the credit.

That would make Wise 98 years old right now. Seems reasonable...


I like his definition of singularity

“The ever accelerating progress of technology and changes in the mode of human life give the appearance of approaching some essential singularity in the history of the race beyond which human affairs, as we know them, could not continue.”

I often think about "the singularity" (not the AI one), and I think it began with the industrial revolution. There may come a time when human affairs, as we know them, cannot continue because our industrialization creates so much pollution.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1128 on: March 07, 2023, 05:01:51 PM »
https://twitter.com/anothercohen/status/1632931816750346242

Apparently the exist interview process has been greatly streamlined.  Should help bring Twitter closer to profitability.

I saw that earlier. The usual Twits are mad that Elon put him "on blast" but the guy kinda did that himself.

A little.  But he didn't have much of a choice.  His side of the story;
https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1633082707835080705

Apparently for 9 days he couldn't get an answer as to whether he had a job or not.  I'm guessing tweeting Elon was his last option since no one else knew.  At this point an adult would probably apologize for the lack of communication, figure out the answer and then take the conversion offline.

But that's not what Elon did.  He thought it would be funnier to humiliate him on twitter, topping it off with a clip from Office Space.  Which to be fair it was kind of funny.  Then again I have a dark sense of humor.

But it gets more interesting.  This guy wasn't just some random IT worker.  He built a company that was sold to Twitter at some point.  Part of that deal, for reasons that aren't clear, guarantee him permanent employment.  His muscular dystrophy was taken into account in this deal.  Also part of the deal is shelling out a huge amount of money to the guy if they fire him since that basically turns it into a standard acquisition of another company.

At 10:30am we get this from Elon;

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He has a prominent, active Twitter account and is wealthy. The reason he confronted me in public was to get a big payout.

From what I’ve been told, he’s done almost no work for the past four months, middle-management or otherwise.

Despite his claims on Twitter that he did work, it turns out he told HR that he couldn’t work because he couldn’t type, but was, over the same period, typing up a storm on Twitter.

Yet there are many people on Twitter defending him. This hurts my faith in humanity.

Then he goes quiet more or less. At around 5pm we get this from Elon;

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I would like to apologize to Halli for my misunderstanding of his situation. It was based on things I was told that were untrue or, in some cases, true, but not meaningful.

He is considering remaining at Twitter.

Overall it's been a great day for twitter drama.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1129 on: March 07, 2023, 05:29:23 PM »
I was just reading that. Apparently Elon called him on the phone, and now the guy is considering staying at Twitter.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1130 on: March 07, 2023, 05:32:25 PM »
Elon says he's considering staying.  I'm a little skeptical.  It sounds insane to keep working for someone this abusive if you have the choice of cashing out and retiring.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1131 on: March 07, 2023, 07:22:00 PM »
A good lesson for why CEOs should STFU and not make every minute and every thought bubble, public. What an arse wipe. I'd say his behaviour is childish but that's an insult to children. Even they know better

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1132 on: March 08, 2023, 03:17:04 AM »
He built a company that was sold to Twitter at some point.  Part of that deal, for reasons that aren't clear, guarantee him permanent employment. 
According to wikipedia is was to maximise his tax return:

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In early 2021, Haraldur sold Ueno to Twitter.[11] In an agreement between him and Twitter, most of the purchase price was paid as salary to maximize the tax he would pay for the sale in Iceland. He chose to pay for tax out of respect to Iceland for the disability benefits he received.[12][13] Per the agreement, he paid the second highest tax of an individual in Iceland in 2021.[14][15]

A concept that will make no sense to the likes of Musk. 
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1133 on: March 08, 2023, 03:31:02 AM »
He built a company that was sold to Twitter at some point.  Part of that deal, for reasons that aren't clear, guarantee him permanent employment. 
According to wikipedia is was to maximise his tax return:

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In early 2021, Haraldur sold Ueno to Twitter.[11] In an agreement between him and Twitter, most of the purchase price was paid as salary to maximize the tax he would pay for the sale in Iceland. He chose to pay for tax out of respect to Iceland for the disability benefits he received.[12][13] Per the agreement, he paid the second highest tax of an individual in Iceland in 2021.[14][15]

A concept that will make no sense to the likes of Musk.

Yeah I read that but my American nature wouldn't let me write it down.  I figured it had to be some kind of typo.

He intentionally paid more taxes?  I know what those words mean separately but in a sentence they just sound like gibberish.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1134 on: March 08, 2023, 03:57:27 AM »
Why do these "for the greater good of humanity" people have to make us libertarian bootstrap 'every man for himself' people look bad. The nerve!

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1135 on: March 08, 2023, 04:24:24 AM »
Of course, why would you when it so easily shows you are wrong.
You made a great logic error:

Let's see how the problem started:

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I made the definition before the two of you.
I have forward an argument here.

2- You told you don't give it a damn:

I don't give a damn.

But I didn't say, "Oh, sure, because that's the best you can do about my argument." Because you said it directly. Instead;

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I don't give a damn whether or not you give a damn.

I have told I don't give a damn whether or not you give a damn. Because you have replied my argument with this BS.

So I didn't say "I don't give a damn" because you made an argument. On the contrary, after I put forward an argument, the best thing you could do was say "I don't give a damn", you said it. But it doesn't matter what you say. I told I don't give a damn this way, not the way your delisional BS.
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1136 on: March 08, 2023, 04:35:18 AM »
And yet, in you attempting to show up your dick as bigger than JackBlacks, all we get from you wise is a micropenis that looks more like a munted vagina than an actual dick

Bravo wise! ::)

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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1137 on: March 08, 2023, 05:58:48 AM »
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Re: Your thoughts on Elon musk?
« Reply #1139 on: March 08, 2023, 01:30:20 PM »
You made a great logic error:
Nope, my logic is sound.
Conversely, you have completely discarded all logic.

If you follow logic you have 2 options:
1 - Accept the word was defined long before you were born, so your definition is garbage and everyone needs to follow the original definition.
2 - Accept that the word can have multiple definitions depending on context, so you making a particular definition has no bearing on what it means in this context.

Either way you are wrong.