Why would NASA claim Earth is round?

In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?

 Why do women lie about their weight?

Why do women lie about their weight?

I’d argue everyone lies about their weight.  Ask any man about his member...  Aweful lot of lying there too... Average American male pants is now 38 inches and average height has shrunk a little too.   

As for NASA lying... obviously NASA overlords have decided to rid the world of God for the past 2000 years and they figured showing how insignificant our little speck of dust is compared to the Universe would be the best way to do this.  Maybe it’s a long play... they hope people will stop paying churches and will pay NASA overlords instead, those offering bowl donations add up!

Why do women lie about their weight?

Because their appearance/figure is important to them.

I see no correlation to the original question.

They do it for the lols

In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?

Power over the masses

Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.

Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.

That's an interesting hypothesis that has no basis in fact.

Quote from: Earth is round like a bal on January 14, 2019, 09:18:12 AM

In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?

Power over the masses

Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.

You're presupposing a falsehood. A lot of the "falsehood" can be independently verified as a "truehood". The preponderance of evidence is overwhelmingly on the side of the "falsehood" actually being true as originally thought prior to indoctrination into said falsehood.

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 06:48:42 PM

Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.

That's an interesting hypothesis that has no basis in fact.

Exactly. The Earth zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h, NO basis in fact whatsoever. Thank you for affirming. And what of us Australians? Are we hanging by our feet as we zoom around the universe? Everywhere I have been on this planet, from Canberra to Reykjavik, I have felt the exact same orientation. The ground beneath me and the sky above me.

Quote from: Earth is round like a bal on January 14, 2019, 09:18:12 AM

In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?

Power over the masses

And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 06:48:42 PM

Quote from: Earth is round like a bal on January 14, 2019, 09:18:12 AM

In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?

Power over the masses

And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.

Indeed. Yet they believe.

Quote from: Curiouser and Curiouser on January 14, 2019, 06:53:14 PM

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 06:48:42 PM

Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.

That's an interesting hypothesis that has no basis in fact.

Exactly. The Earth zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h, NO basis in fact whatsoever. Thank you for affirming.

Oooooh. I bet you think that's clever.

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 06:58:13 PM

Quote from: Curiouser and Curiouser on January 14, 2019, 06:53:14 PM

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 06:48:42 PM

Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.

That's an interesting hypothesis that has no basis in fact.

Exactly. The Earth zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h, NO basis in fact whatsoever. Thank you for affirming.

Oooooh. I bet you think that's clever.

It is what it is.

Quote from: rabinoz on January 14, 2019, 07:31:14 PM

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 06:48:42 PM

Quote from: Earth is round like a bal on January 14, 2019, 09:18:12 AM

In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?

Power over the masses

And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.

Indeed. Yet they believe.

Just so.

“In the Middle Ages people believed that the earth was flat, for which they had at least the evidence of their senses: we believe it to be round, not because as many as one percent of us could give the physical reasons for so quaint a belief, but because modern science has convinced us that nothing that is obvious is true, and that everything that is magical, improbable, extraordinary, gigantic, microscopic, heartless, or outrageous is scientific.”

~ George Bernard Shaw


Why, indeed.

“In the Middle Ages people believed that the earth was flat, for which they had at least the evidence of their senses: we believe it to be round, not because as many as one percent of us could give the physical reasons for so quaint a belief, but because modern science has convinced us that nothing that is obvious is true, and that everything that is magical, improbable, extraordinary, gigantic, microscopic, heartless, or outrageous is scientific.”

~ George Bernard Shaw


Why, indeed.

Probably not the best idea to get your science opinions from playwrights

Anyone can check the main evidence for the shape of the Earth.  The real question is why aren't Flat Earther's interested?

Quote from: rabinoz on January 14, 2019, 07:31:14 PM

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 06:48:42 PM

Quote from: Earth is round like a bal on January 14, 2019, 09:18:12 AM

In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?

Power over the masses

And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.

Indeed. Yet they believe.

I asked "And what power would that be?" Would you care to answer the question?

If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.

How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".

Neither the topic nor the OP made any reference to "the Earth . . . . . . zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".
You do like your straw-man arguments.   

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 07:34:02 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on January 14, 2019, 07:31:14 PM

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 06:48:42 PM

Quote from: Earth is round like a bal on January 14, 2019, 09:18:12 AM

In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?

Power over the masses

And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.

Indeed. Yet they believe.

I asked "And what power would that be?" Would you care to answer the question?

I dont know their agenda. Maybe they do it for kicks. But lets face it, if you have indoctrinated people to believe certain things about the nature of their existence, in a way you control them. You are their God whether they see it or not.

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 06:48:42 PM

If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.

How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".

Neither the topic nor the OP made any reference to "the Earth . . . . . . zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".
You do like your straw-man arguments.   

Indeed. How does NASA make the leap from a round Earth to a spinning ball zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h. Yet that is what we are told and that is what many believe.

I dont know their agenda. Maybe they do it for kicks.

The less plain the truth is, the more man needs an interpreter. All "truth" flows through the pulpit of the Orthodoxy. They fill pliable minds with the counter-intuitive to obfuscate truth and make it unreachable by the unwashed masses. 
It's the same reason the Catholic Church resisted first, the Vulgate and then, later translations.  Rationalism deposed the Church from it's throne, and then promptly wrapped itself in the former's trappings. "Modern man" is controlled by the same mechanisms all the while thinking himself above such "superstition" because his priest wears a labcoat instead of a frock.

Quote from: rabinoz on January 14, 2019, 09:14:00 PM

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 07:34:02 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on January 14, 2019, 07:31:14 PM

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 06:48:42 PM

Quote from: Earth is round like a bal on January 14, 2019, 09:18:12 AM

In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?

Power over the masses

And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.

Indeed. Yet they believe.

I asked "And what power would that be?" Would you care to answer the question?

I dont know their agenda. Maybe they do it for kicks. But lets face it, if you have indoctrinated people to believe certain things about the nature of their existence, in a way you control them. You are their God whether they see it or not.

Unacceptable! In answer to, "If there is no benefit, why would they do this?" you answered, "Power over the masses."
So, I ask again, "What power to the masses?"

And exactly how does the shape of the earth have anything to do with "the nature of their existence?"

Quote from: rabinoz on January 14, 2019, 09:21:29 PM

Quote from: Shifter on January 14, 2019, 06:48:42 PM

If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.

How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".

Neither the topic nor the OP made any reference to "the Earth . . . . . . zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".
You do like your straw-man arguments.   

Indeed. How does NASA make the leap from a round Earth to a spinning ball zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h. Yet that is what we are told and that is what many believe.

Unacceptable!  I asked YOU why you dragged "the Earth . . . . . . zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h" into the mix?
You haven't even shown that NASA makes such a leap so there's no need for me to try to guess how NASA may or may not have done something.

Now this time answer the simple questions that I asked:

• What power does lying to us "that the Earth is round" give anyone over masses"?
  
  
• How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h"?
  
  
• And exactly how does the shape of the earth have anything to do with "the nature of their existence"?

Unacceptable!  I asked YOU why you dragged "the Earth . . . . . . zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h" into the mix?
You haven't even shown that NASA makes such a leap so there's no need for me to try to guess how NASA may or may not have done something.

Now this time answer the simple questions that I asked:

• What power does lying to us "that the Earth is round" give anyone over masses"?
  
  
• How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h"?
  
  
• And exactly how does the shape of the earth have anything to do with "the nature of their existence"?

I have already answered these.... It's not my fault I cant doctor an answer to your level of acceptability

Well they government has much better ways to control the masses. They can just do it like North Korea, or by mass media advertisement, in fact the rich and the government do control us by making people buy from them, when we use electricity  mobile phones etc.That is much more sensible than trying to control people by lying to them that the flat Earth is round eh

Quote from: rabinoz on January 14, 2019, 10:08:46 PM

Now this time answer the simple questions that I asked:

• What power does lying to us "that the Earth is round" give anyone over masses"?
• How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h"?
• And exactly how does the shape of the earth have anything to do with "the nature of their existence"?

I have already answered these.... It's not my fault I cant doctor an answer to your level of acceptability

Incorrect! All you did was add more confusion but you never gave any straight answer to any of those questions.

And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.

And you meaningless answer:

Indeed. Yet they believe.

So I, hopefully, ask again:

I asked "And what power would that be?" Would you care to answer the question?

To which you give the inane response:

I dont know their agenda. Maybe they do it for kicks. But lets face it, if you have indoctrinated people to believe certain things about the nature of their existence, in a way you control them. You are their God whether they see it or not.

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And addition asked:

How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".

Neither the topic nor the OP made any reference to "the Earth . . . . . . zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".
You do like your straw-man arguments.

And back comes another carefully crafted non-answer:

Indeed. How does NASA make the leap from a round Earth to a spinning ball zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h. Yet that is what we are told and that is what many believe.

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And you've injected another bit of total crap:

But lets face it, if you have indoctrinated people to believe certain things about the nature of their existence, in a way you control them.

So I ask a straight forward question:

And exactly how does the shape of the earth have anything to do with "the nature of their existence?"

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I guess that we've established that you have no idea what you are talking about.
I suggest that you go back to the Flat Earth Community University - FECU! and do a refresher in your Flat Earth Indoctrination 101 course.

Now maybe those that have something worth saying can continue with the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?".

Obviously there is no reason,unless NASA is as bored as the flatties.

the way i see it is science is the evolution of knowledge, the more knowledge you have the more things you can explain through science. blaming everything on NASA and the government shows an extreme level of mistrust which is common in all conspiracy theorists despite people doing experiments 100's and 1000's of years before even america as a country existed let alone NASA.

sure at one point they thought the earth was flat then erastosthenes did an experiment that could only work on a globe and pretty much proved the earth was sphericle or an oblate spheroid as NDT puts it cus its grown abit of a spare tyre round its waist in its old age!! they also thought we were the center of the universe (mans ego) then they found out that cant be right so it must just be our solar system that revolves around us (again mans ego), then they figure out we revolve around the sun all way way before NASA existed. all that is gaining the knowledge through science to ask more questions.

its like bridges or something like that over big stretches of water that seem to sink over long distance but its just following the curve of the earth. Eric Dubay asked some engineer (was in the early part of his 200 things for flat earth) if you would compensate for the curvature of the earth by say dropping a road by how ever many feet and the engineer laughed and said no that would be stupid but Dubay though that as proof of flat earth. Nope, like over water if you build those structure at say 10 feet above sea level or the lakes level or whatever. it will naturally follow the curvature of the earth. its the same with anything on land the earths curve is so tiny that as long as what you are building is level it will always follow the curve of the earth. Its like taking a ruler and put it on the top of a basketball and keep the ruler level and move the ruler side to side rolling the basketball, the ball will move yet the ruler will always stay level. same thing

i think some people just like the idea of seeing something that isnt there. if the earth was flat why hide it as the educational system would have come into play way way before then to teach earth is flat. Technology would have grown with that in mind. Technology mainly grows with the need of something, take the GPS system which surrounds the earth, not sure if that system would work on a flat earth because you might need satellites off to the side to give you an elevation reading but im sure there are other ways to read elevation anyway.

Actually if the earth was flat and the sun was only 3000 miles up or whatever you guys believe creating a dyson sphere to harness 100% of the the suns solar energy for our planets consumption would be orders of magnitude easier to do, in fact we could probably do it right now so having the earth as flat would actually benefit the planet far more than having a solar system with a huge in space with millions of galaxies.

bit long i think but just some thoughts

NASA is just a name..is it ?
The Apollo program is begging for answers.
Apollo God of the Sun (heliocentric model)
The rays of light that radiate from Apollo's head symbolize that he is the god of the sun. According to the Greek myth, each morning Apollo rides a golden flaming chariot across the sky bringing daylight to the world.

Why in the world would a supposed ''christian'' nation use occult symbolism in their biggest scientific achievement ?
The NASA logo of the vector image is a representation of the serpent's forked tongue despite what they claim to the general public.
What has Wernher von Braun the war criminal in charge of Apollo got to say on the matter ?
“It [the rocket] will free man from his remaining chains, the chains of gravity which still tie him to this planet. It will open to him the gates of heaven.”

So we have an ancient Greek sun god, snake tongue satanical symbolism and the head of NASA claiming that the rocket is our way out of our remaining earthly chains to finally concor the heavens.
It is all over the bible to warn for this end times wickedness and agenda of the lawless generation.

Of course this will be ridiculed, but there is more to come......

Outlets like NdGT and Elon Musk are slowly prepairing the world for this ''other'' dimensions that our limited awareness cannot really comprehend.
Our world is just an illusion, a hologram of a reality that lies underneath this 3D (+ time) shallow dimension.
In fact reality could be a hologram, a game of super itelligent aliens, or even far more outlandish than that i want to write here and now....

Bottom line,......they are slowly teaching a reality from scratch that no one has ever teached from the dawn of this world nor our own forefathers..
It will lead to a total and massive alienation of reality as we know it to be for thousends of years.
They can program whatever cosmic reality into our children's minds as long as they label it as ''based on true science''.
I follow this discussion from the beginning of the string theory and what is offered right now is wicked and satanical.

My children are addults, but i will surely urge them to be extremely critical towards this new reality when it will become part of every day education.

NASA is just a name..is it ?
The Apollo program is begging for answers.
Apollo God of the Sun (heliocentric model)
The rays of light that radiate from Apollo's head symbolize that he is the god of the sun. According to the Greek myth, each morning Apollo rides a golden flaming chariot across the sky bringing daylight to the world.

Why in the world would a supposed ''christian'' nation use occult symbolism in their biggest scientific achievement ?
The NASA logo of the vector image is a representation of the serpent's forked tongue despite what they claim to the general public.
What has Wernher von Braun the war criminal in charge of Apollo got to say on the matter ?
“It [the rocket] will free man from his remaining chains, the chains of gravity which still tie him to this planet. It will open to him the gates of heaven.”

So we have an ancient Greek sun god, snake tongue satanical symbolism and the head of NASA claiming that the rocket is our way out of our remaining earthly chains to finally concor the heavens.
It is all over the bible to warn for this end times wickedness and agenda of the lawless generation.

Of course this will be ridiculed, but there is more to come......

Outlets like NdGT and Elon Musk are slowly prepairing the world for this ''other'' dimensions that our limited awareness cannot really comprehend.
Our world is just an illusion, a hologram of a reality that lies underneath this 3D (+ time) shallow dimension.
In fact reality could be a hologram, a game of super itelligent aliens, or even far more outlandish than that i want to write here and now....

Bottom line,......they are slowly teaching a reality from scratch that no one has ever teached from the dawn of this world nor our own forefathers..
It will lead to a total and massive alienation of reality as we know it to be for thousends of years.
They can program whatever cosmic reality into our children's minds as long as they label it as ''based on true science''.
I follow this discussion from the beginning of the string theory and what is offered right now is wicked and satanical.

My children are addults, but i will surely urge them to be extremely critical towards this new reality when it will become part of every day education.

Ok, this right here is not your average, everyday dutchy, this is advanced dutchy

Ok, this right here is not your average, everyday dutchy, this is advanced dutchy

Still not advanced dutchy though, because many things don't belong on a forum.
Reality should be a personal quest before anything else, not someting you believe because it was spoonfed to you by authorities that really don't care what you believe in the first place as long as it does not challenge their authority.

But what's there to challenge nowadays, apart from the leftovers in the far corners of an artificial scientific construct that has trapped every induvidual ?
It is fixed what's debatable and what's not as long as the structure remains it's full rigidity.

NASA is just a name..is it ?
The Apollo program is begging for answers.
Apollo God of the Sun (heliocentric model)
The rays of light that radiate from Apollo's head symbolize that he is the god of the sun. According to the Greek myth, each morning Apollo rides a golden flaming chariot across the sky bringing daylight to the world.

Why in the world would a supposed ''christian'' nation use occult symbolism in their biggest scientific achievement ?
The NASA logo of the vector image is a representation of the serpent's forked tongue despite what they claim to the general public.
What has Wernher von Braun the war criminal in charge of Apollo got to say on the matter ?
“It [the rocket] will free man from his remaining chains, the chains of gravity which still tie him to this planet. It will open to him the gates of heaven.”

So we have an ancient Greek sun god, snake tongue satanical symbolism and the head of NASA claiming that the rocket is our way out of our remaining earthly chains to finally concor the heavens.
It is all over the bible to warn for this end times wickedness and agenda of the lawless generation.

Of course this will be ridiculed, but there is more to come......

Outlets like NdGT and Elon Musk are slowly prepairing the world for this ''other'' dimensions that our limited awareness cannot really comprehend.
Our world is just an illusion, a hologram of a reality that lies underneath this 3D (+ time) shallow dimension.
In fact reality could be a hologram, a game of super itelligent aliens, or even far more outlandish than that i want to write here and now....

Bottom line,......they are slowly teaching a reality from scratch that no one has ever teached from the dawn of this world nor our own forefathers..
It will lead to a total and massive alienation of reality as we know it to be for thousends of years.
They can program whatever cosmic reality into our children's minds as long as they label it as ''based on true science''.
I follow this discussion from the beginning of the string theory and what is offered right now is wicked and satanical.

My children are addults, but i will surely urge them to be extremely critical towards this new reality when it will become part of every day education.

Even if all your silly ideas were correct, where does it get you? Nowhere!

Anyone with half a brain and a pair of eyes can see that the earth cannot be flat with the sun, moon, planets and stars circling above.
And that is why the Globe has been the only wisely accepted shape for the earth for a couple of millenia!

I repeatedly ask you to explain the simple things that we can see with no assistance from instruments other than perhaps a compass, a stick and a tape measure.

But you never have an answer - you always go back to ridiculing NASA with stupidity like "Apollo God of the Sun" - "Apollo" is just a name!
Might I ask you what your names of the week are?
Surely you don't use names like:
      maandag after the "goddess of the moon",
      woensdag after the Norse god Wodan (Odin) or
      donderdag from the Norse god of thunder (Thor)?
You are so superstitious when you want to ridicule space missions but even all your ridicule contains no evidence against the reality of space missions.

Even if all your silly ideas were correct, where does it get you? Nowhere!

Isn't this a contradiction ?
If my silly ideas are right it gives me inside in the truth .
If my silly ideas are the figments of an idiot i continue being what i am....an idiot.
Only your ''Even if all your silly ideas were correct, where does it get you? Nowhere!'' is an erronious outcome !

Anyone with half a brain and a pair of eyes can see that the earth cannot be flat with the sun, moon, planets and stars circling above.

Have you seen a ship going over the bulge lately by using your eyes only ?

And that is why the Globe has been the only wisely accepted shape for the earth for a couple of millenia!

You think you choose wisely to trust men that have a record of recorded wickedness,....your choice.

I repeatedly ask you to explain the simple things that we can see with no assistance from instruments other than perhaps a compass, a stick and a tape measure.

And i have answered you that i am a default flatearther, because i dismiss all claims derived from hypothetical musings that fall apart the moment you zoom in....
Starting with the superiour eyesight of the ancient Greeks that concluded that ships sunk below an imaginary bulge.

But you never have an answer - you always go back to ridiculing NASA with stupidity like "Apollo God of the Sun" - "Apollo" is just a name!
Might I ask you what your names of the week are?
Surely you don't use names like:
      maandag after the "goddess of the moon",
      woensdag after the Norse god Wodan (Odin) or
      donderdag from the Norse god of thunder (Thor)?
You are so superstitious when you want to ridicule space missions but even all your ridicule contains no evidence against the reality of space missions.

Your examples go back a long time in history....
NASA could use whatever name, image,symbol they thought resembled their journey best.
They choose for the occult and idols instead of names and symbols related to christianity.....why ?
If a president does not ''believe'' in the christian god...he/she stands no chance at all in the final election.
Why look away when NASA introduces mythical and occult names and symbolism ?