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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #180 on: August 21, 2018, 08:32:28 AM »
Quote from: Jane on August 15, 2018, 03:46:37 PM
Quote from: Babyhighspeed on August 15, 2018, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Jane on August 15, 2018, 03:33:35 PM

Chemical - so not in our control
Spiritual - how is this under our control?
Regional - not chosen
Family - not chosen
Upbringing - not chosen
Etc - any of these under our control?

Why does the lack of free will mean the world would be on fire?

You asked where the thoughts come from..I didn't say they were chosen. However, it is our choice rather to follow those thoughts. Someone who came from a family of addicts and have that gene themselves, they have the choice to change and follow their own path. Someone who came from a family of racist, they have the choice to hold their own ideology. Someone who has a temper has the choice to control themselves. This could go on and on..

No matter what thoughts enter our head either by an outside or inside influence, we have the choice of what to do with them. You are almost proposing we are not sentient creatures.
If we do not control our thoughts, then logically we do not control the thoughts that cover our choices to follow them...
This statement is so asinine it deserves to be memorialized forever!
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #181 on: August 21, 2018, 08:48:54 AM »
Quote from: Jane on August 15, 2018, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Babyhighspeed on August 15, 2018, 03:53:48 PM
Quote from: Jane on August 15, 2018, 03:46:37 PM
the problem is we're not in control of what that 'us' is.

We are actually...why do you think people change through the years (for better or worse)? We are not static, if we were we would be the same from early adulthood to death...we are not though. Our decisions and free will mold us till the end... hopefully for the better but at times for the worse.
Change =/= control.
It certainly does.

Ask anyone who gets off and on any freeway ramp in any vehicle.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #182 on: August 21, 2018, 08:51:16 AM »
Quote from: totallackey on August 21, 2018, 08:48:54 AM
Quote from: Jane on August 15, 2018, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Babyhighspeed on August 15, 2018, 03:53:48 PM
Quote from: Jane on August 15, 2018, 03:46:37 PM
the problem is we're not in control of what that 'us' is.

We are actually...why do you think people change through the years (for better or worse)? We are not static, if we were we would be the same from early adulthood to death...we are not though. Our decisions and free will mold us till the end... hopefully for the better but at times for the worse.
Change =/= control.
It certainly does.

Ask anyone who gets off and on any freeway ramp in any vehicle.
...what?
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #183 on: August 21, 2018, 08:52:05 AM »
BHS, do you believe in God's "Divine Plan"? That at the beginning of time he set his plan into motion?
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #184 on: August 21, 2018, 12:28:11 PM »
Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on August 21, 2018, 07:45:15 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on August 21, 2018, 05:35:41 AM
And atheists believe, without tangible evidence to the contrary that "There is no God" and so they "live by faith" just as much as believers do.
What rubbish.  I can never be absolutely sure that all the proposed gods don't exist, any more than I can be absolutely sure you don't have an invisible pink dragon living in your garage.  However I don't believe that any gods exist, just as I don't believe in the invisible dragon, therefore I'm an atheist.

It's not a faith based position, it's a lack of faith based position.

So you don't understand Religion as well as Thermodynamics, Paul?

Because every single God in every single Pantheon absolutely exists...

Evidence: me.

Yeah, you're just a  hopeless fraud aintcha?

Where you working now that Jacob's Well is being demolished btw?

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/16140830.Well-known_city_centre_building_to_be_knocked_down_this_summer/

I could Google it, but would prefer you just tell me...

Go on, be honest for once in your miserable life...

Win one for the Gipper!

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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #185 on: August 21, 2018, 12:36:23 PM »
I am honored to have Papa Legba shit-post in my thread.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #186 on: August 21, 2018, 12:40:20 PM »
Wait, who tf is Paul now? I thought everyone is markjo, is Paul a new character?
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #187 on: August 21, 2018, 12:42:21 PM »
Also:
Quote from: Papa Legba on August 21, 2018, 12:28:11 PM
Because every single God in every single Pantheon absolutely exists...

Evidence: me.
Lolwut?
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #188 on: August 21, 2018, 12:47:11 PM »
Quote from: Albert Wesker on August 21, 2018, 12:36:23 PM
I am honored to have Papa Legba shit-post in my thread.

Your thread is shit ergo all posts in it are shit posts.

Lol you just got Legba'd!

Plus this:

https://zapatopi.net/kelvin/papers/on_colour_and_design.html

Oh, hang on - are we still doing the schtick where we pretend everyone on this forum is not a managed software persona enforcing false dillemas?

Okay - hit me with em!
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #189 on: August 21, 2018, 12:49:42 PM »
Alright, I put him in quarantine. If you want to have a chat with him, head on down to AR.
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Quote from: Thork on November 27, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #190 on: August 21, 2018, 12:54:52 PM »
Didn't we determine that the quarantined can't even post in AR?
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #191 on: August 21, 2018, 12:56:00 PM »
No, he should be able to post down there. I was trying to make it AR only, but I couldn't find the special permissions.
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Quote from: Thork on November 27, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #192 on: August 21, 2018, 01:06:26 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 21, 2018, 12:49:42 PM
Alright, I put him in quarantine. If you want to have a chat with him, head on down to AR.
:'( I wanted to learn who Paul is...
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #193 on: August 21, 2018, 01:09:52 PM »
He picks some poor random person and then accuses everyone of being that person. Then he posts fake dox, and I get tons of messages asking me to delete his fake dox.

Also, I thought he could post in AR if I quarantined him, but he's not posting so I guess not. I will look into it, but I'm just gonna leave him there in the meantime. Otherwise we'll just have to clean up his mountains of spam and he'd end up banned anyway.
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Quote from: Thork on November 27, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #194 on: August 21, 2018, 01:13:53 PM »
I can't wait until he doxxes me!
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #195 on: August 21, 2018, 01:14:17 PM »
Let Legba post in the upper/lower forums.

Let me remind everyone how he got his first ban.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=63486.msg1682570#msg1682570

A 143-page thread, where the RE could not handle him, so they complained to TheEngineer (active mod at that time) who promptly banned him. Then Ski came back after a long vacation, the RE complained again, so Legba got his second ban.

Each and every complaint against rabinoz or jackblack has gone unanswered, even though they both shitpost the entire forum, each and every thread.

Heiwa's monster thread (over 300 pages) is not locked, even though it is much less interesting than the 143-page thread mentioned above.

If this is a free forum, home for free thinkers, then you must let Legba post in the manner he sees fit, certainly rabinoz and jackblack suffer from no restrictions at all, do they?
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #196 on: August 21, 2018, 01:21:26 PM »
W-what is going on?? First totallackey, then Legba, then Sandy... Is this thread cursed?
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #197 on: August 21, 2018, 01:49:12 PM »
Ahh!!!  This is why atheists can't have nice things!
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #198 on: August 21, 2018, 01:49:34 PM »
Quote from: Pezevenk on August 21, 2018, 01:21:26 PM
W-what is going on?? First totallackey, then Legba, then Sandy... Is this thread cursed?

Cursed? No. It is blessed, thus proving the existence of God.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #199 on: August 21, 2018, 01:52:26 PM »
Quote from: Crouton on August 21, 2018, 01:49:12 PM
Ahh!!!  This is why atheists can't have nice things!
I repent.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #200 on: August 21, 2018, 01:54:02 PM »
They are all trying to outwesker the Wesker, which is physically impossible.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #201 on: August 21, 2018, 03:28:50 PM »
Quote from: Papa Legba on August 21, 2018, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: Albert Wesker on August 21, 2018, 12:36:23 PM
I am honored to have Papa Legba shit-post in my thread.

Your thread is shit ergo all posts in it are shit posts.

Lol you just got Legba'd!

Plus this:

https://zapatopi.net/kelvin/papers/on_colour_and_design.html

Oh, hang on - are we still doing the schtick where we pretend everyone on this forum is not a managed software persona enforcing false dillemas?

Okay - hit me with em!

Nice to have you back legba!!! Let's home cow whore can keep her nasty finger off the ban button.

Quote from: sandokhan on August 21, 2018, 01:14:17 PM
Let Legba post in the upper/lower forums.

Let me remind everyone how he got his first ban.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=63486.msg1682570#msg1682570

A 143-page thread, where the RE could not handle him, so they complained to TheEngineer (active mod at that time) who promptly banned him. Then Ski came back after a long vacation, the RE complained again, so Legba got his second ban.

Each and every complaint against rabinoz or jackblack has gone unanswered, even though they both shitpost the entire forum, each and every thread.

Heiwa's monster thread (over 300 pages) is not locked, even though it is much less interesting than the 143-page thread mentioned above.

If this is a free forum, home for free thinkers, then you must let Legba post in the manner he sees fit, certainly rabinoz and jackblack suffer from no restrictions at all, do they?

Amen!!!

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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #202 on: August 21, 2018, 03:43:29 PM »
Quote from: Albert Wesker on August 21, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
They are all trying to outwesker the Wesker, which is physically impossible.



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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #203 on: August 21, 2018, 03:44:49 PM »
Legba isn't a "free thinker". He's not even a thinker.

Quote from: Babyhighspeed on August 21, 2018, 03:28:50 PM
Quote from: Papa Legba on August 21, 2018, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: Albert Wesker on August 21, 2018, 12:36:23 PM
I am honored to have Papa Legba shit-post in my thread.

Your thread is shit ergo all posts in it are shit posts.

Lol you just got Legba'd!

Plus this:

https://zapatopi.net/kelvin/papers/on_colour_and_design.html

Oh, hang on - are we still doing the schtick where we pretend everyone on this forum is not a managed software persona enforcing false dillemas?

Okay - hit me with em!

Nice to have you back legba!!! Let's home cow whore can keep her nasty finger off the ban button.
Your whole shtick of defending him is really sad. Licking someone's ass because they keep trolling you is just so low.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #204 on: August 21, 2018, 03:45:45 PM »
Quote from: Shifter on August 21, 2018, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: Albert Wesker on August 21, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
They are all trying to outwesker the Wesker, which is physically impossible.





Never happened.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #205 on: August 21, 2018, 03:47:21 PM »
He wants to home a cow whore? How does that work?
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Quote from: Thork on November 27, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #206 on: August 21, 2018, 03:47:52 PM »
Quote from: Albert Wesker on August 21, 2018, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: Shifter on August 21, 2018, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: Albert Wesker on August 21, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
They are all trying to outwesker the Wesker, which is physically impossible.





Never happened.

Denial. Suck it up princess. You got weskered. Killed. Screaming like a little girl. Utterly defeated.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #207 on: August 21, 2018, 03:48:52 PM »
Quote from: Shifter on August 21, 2018, 03:47:52 PM
Quote from: Albert Wesker on August 21, 2018, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: Shifter on August 21, 2018, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: Albert Wesker on August 21, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
They are all trying to outwesker the Wesker, which is physically impossible.





Never happened.

Denial. Suck it up princess. You got weskered. Killed. Screaming like a little girl. Utterly defeated.


There is....another....Wes....ker….
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #208 on: August 21, 2018, 03:54:29 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 21, 2018, 03:47:21 PM
He wants to home a cow whore? How does that work?
I'm just picturing a cow in a stripper outfit homing into various targets.
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Re: The Official Why Are You An Atheist Thread
« Reply #209 on: August 21, 2018, 04:02:38 PM »
Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on August 21, 2018, 07:45:15 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on August 21, 2018, 05:35:41 AM
And atheists believe, without tangible evidence to the contrary that "There is no God" and so they "live by faith" just as much as believers do.
What rubbish.  I can never be absolutely sure that all the proposed gods don't exist, any more than I can be absolutely sure you don't have an invisible pink dragon living in your garage.  However I don't believe that any gods exist, just as I don't believe in the invisible dragon, therefore I'm an atheist.

It's not a faith based position, it's a lack of faith based position.
No the word itself atheism came from Greek and means "no gods" and since you have no tangible evidence that there are "no gods" you hold that position purely by faith.

The Greek for "no pink dragons" is "δεν ροζ δράκους (den roz drákous)", quite different.

Just as many flat-earthers have no tangible evidence that the earth is flat and so hold their belief that the earth is flat purely by faith, maybe they think the Scripture says so.
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