First, I want to start with the most simple question you may be able to answer. How do you know the earth is flat? I want image proof and I don't want a model of the flat earth or this cant happen if the earth is round. I want image proof that the earth is flat. I also don't want the "horizon looks flat" that can be explained by the obloid effect which states that the larger something is, the less drastic its feature will be. Its simple logic in that standpoint. Second, I want concrete evidence of an Ice wall and the dome. Now you guys explain that there is an Ice wall holding in all the water and a dome projecting stars, however, If the stars in the sky are so bright they can even light up the night, Why do people in Australia see different stars than in the U.S.A? Second of all, Why would other planets form round, when you believe ours is flat? Do you have image proof that they are round? what if it is an optical illusion making it seem round? You choose not to back that up with evidence or empirical proof of the existence of why we would have formed flat. Now I don't believe the earth is flat but this is a backing of the scientific method of study. Now I have to ask this question to a man named flat earther asshole which is an actual you tuber. You can search if you'd like. he said that boats don't disappear over the horizon, Its all perspective. He said that you would be unable to see it disappear over the horizon because it would become to small. However, Instead of showing us, He zoomed in with a camera and zoomed out saying you could no longer see it. In fact that's not the case. It's a matter of Pixels Per Inch. My Dad owns a boat and when we go out boating we see land disappear over the horizon the farther we get out to sea. It disappears bottom first. When we sail back We see it top first. Now second of all, He also did a poor job of explaining something V-sauce mentioned in one of his videos. the verrazanos narrow bridge has been adapted to the curvature of the earth. How ever He said that the bridge was curved but the horizon was still flat. This does not answer the question however. It was a statement. If you want watch the video. He also mentioned that no flat earther believes in the Idea that the earth accelerates up a 9.8 meters per second despite the fact that there is literally an entire sub topic on it, Lowering his credibility. I want to tell you guys, You treat it as more of a religion than a science. I hear "I believe this" all the time instead of "I have PROOF of this". Secondly, You also say that space does not exist and you acknowledge the other planets, yet you show none of them In your model. I don't understand why this is so difficult for you to look at and think about. You want to revise Physics that have worked for centuries, And we have proof of these physics we use. thirdly, an Ice wall? come on. Why would the U.S. want to hide that from us, What would they have to gain? There's literally no reason for them to keep it from us. Finally. You say we've never been to outer space and that it proves the earth is flat. Even If NASA staged the moon landing, How does that prove the earth is flat? The only thing I want to hear back from you guys is proof of how things must work using globe physics, and find something out there that defies those physics in a whole new way to prove why the earth must be flat. I want you to think and find proof to say you know, rather than I believe. Stay frosty, and remember, If every pork chop were perfect, we wouldn't have hot dogs.