Net Neutrality: WTF is it?

We had the internet for like 20 years before Obama made this net neutrality law. I don't recall any ISP shenanigans?

No you probably wouldn't as you live in Australia and Obama was the president of the United States.

At different points in time American ISPs have blocked Skype, Vonage and other VOIP systems, electronic wallet transactions (I think such as Googlewallet), and the most famous being Netflix.  These all took place from mid 2000s to right before the net neutrality regs were put in place.

The argument against neutrality is that it is stifling ISP innovation and leading to reduced network investment. This is made dispite at least one ISP publicly admitting that net neutrality hasn't affected their network investment.

Didn't AOL somehow fail to deliver emails that were critical of AOL... or something? It's hard to remember things.  I think I recall some story about Comcast or Verizon blocking gmail in Boston, but I don't know why. There are lots of shitty little things these companies can do because in many places you don't have a choice. You can't just pick a different isp.

https://consumerist.com/2006/04/14/aol-blocks-dearaol-emails/ 

Can you get AOL on the internet?

Can you get AOL on the internet?

I was on AOL back in the dial-up days when they introduced their BYOA (Bring Your Own Access) option.  Basically, I was able to use a dial-up internet provider to get to AOL.

Do you miss that modem connection symphony too?   

Do you miss that modem connection symphony too?   

Eeeeeeeeee

EEEEEEEEEE

BING

BONG

RUUUUUHHHH

REEEEEEE

Those were the good old days.....

And 5 minutes for boobs to appear.

... I mean that scientific paper on quark spin.   

... I mean that scientific paper on quark spin.   

Me too. Oh wait. Now that I think of it I can't remember what I used the internet for in those days. I think maybe starcraft.

Remember when the TV remote was dad telling you to switch the TV to the other channel?

Just think what innovation a TV neutrality law would have spawned.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 17, 2017, 08:41:58 PM

Do you miss that modem connection symphony too?   

Eeeeeeeeee

EEEEEEEEEE

BING

BONG

RUUUUUHHHH

REEEEEEE

Then wait....wait....waaaaiiittt...

No connection, starting over.

Anybody remember waiting for a song to load at 56k?

Quote from: crutonius on December 17, 2017, 08:44:43 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 17, 2017, 08:41:58 PM

Do you miss that modem connection symphony too?   

Eeeeeeeeee

EEEEEEEEEE

BING

BONG

RUUUUUHHHH

REEEEEEE

Then wait....wait....waaaaiiittt...

No connection, starting over.

Anybody remember waiting for a song to load at 56k?

Ever buy mail order, wait 6 to 8 weeks for delivery and pay C.O.D.?

Damn kids   

Ever buy mail order, wait 6 to 8 weeks for delivery and pay C.O.D.?

Damn kids   

Bet you use to walk 5 miles a day, up hill, in the snow to go to school.

Quote from: Babyhighspeed on December 17, 2017, 09:17:10 PM

Quote from: crutonius on December 17, 2017, 08:44:43 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 17, 2017, 08:41:58 PM

Do you miss that modem connection symphony too?   

Eeeeeeeeee

EEEEEEEEEE

BING

BONG

RUUUUUHHHH

REEEEEEE

Then wait....wait....waaaaiiittt...

No connection, starting over.

Anybody remember waiting for a song to load at 56k?

Ever buy mail order, wait 6 to 8 weeks for delivery and pay C.O.D.?

Damn kids   

I remember paying $500 to mail order a 40 MB hard drive, only to have the company go out of business and never get the damned thing. 

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 17, 2017, 09:25:31 PM

Ever buy mail order, wait 6 to 8 weeks for delivery and pay C.O.D.?

Damn kids   

Bet you use to walk 5 miles a day, up hill, in the snow to go to school.

Up hill BOTH WAYS !

I remember paying $500 to mail order a 40 MB hard drive, only to have the company go out of business and never get the damned thing. 

Ouch

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 17, 2017, 09:25:31 PM

Quote from: Babyhighspeed on December 17, 2017, 09:17:10 PM

Quote from: crutonius on December 17, 2017, 08:44:43 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 17, 2017, 08:41:58 PM

Do you miss that modem connection symphony too?   

Eeeeeeeeee

EEEEEEEEEE

BING

BONG

RUUUUUHHHH

REEEEEEE

Then wait....wait....waaaaiiittt...

No connection, starting over.

Anybody remember waiting for a song to load at 56k?

Ever buy mail order, wait 6 to 8 weeks for delivery and pay C.O.D.?

Damn kids   

I remember paying $500 to mail order a 40 MB hard drive, only to have the company go out of business and never get the damned thing. 

Dude, it was only 40MB. Let it go

Here is another one. Instead of a shitty 40MB, you get 12,000,000MB and its cheaper too. If I were you, I'd be pissed at the bastards selling it to you for that much

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagate-ST12000NM0007-12tb-Sata-7200-Rpm-256mb-3-5in-3-5/332405483840?epid=2225097080&hash=item4d64e92940:g:kKAAAOSwRBtZ3STv

    It was probably 35 years ago.

My first computer was a 386 @ 120 MHZ and . . . . . a 40 Meg HD.

ONLY $1600.00

Dude, it was only 40MB. Let it go

Here is another one. Instead of a shitty 40MB, you get 12,000,000MB and its cheaper too. If I were you, I'd be pissed at the bastards selling it to you for that much

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagate-ST12000NM0007-12tb-Sata-7200-Rpm-256mb-3-5in-3-5/332405483840?epid=2225097080&hash=item4d64e92940:g:kKAAAOSwRBtZ3STv

I think I remember paying about 2100 dollars for my Packard Bell 486 that I saved up a year for..think it had 16 Mb of ram, a 150 mb hard drive, 1mb video card, 66hrz and a 28.8 modem.

I could not see how tech could be better. Though 500 for 40mb is a bit steep, unless this was in the mid 80s.

Anyone remember when a small flat screen was a couple Grand..now you can get them for 199 at Walmart.

Pricing is only proportionate to the stupidity of the buyer. 

Technology didn't grow in the little bite sizes they fed us either. Every year the newer model ran just a little faster, had just little more storage, and a tweaked operating system with a few more sparkles so every one would rush out and buy it.

Back in the day I remember something by the name of 'Commodore VIC20'

And the 286

Watching the kb of ram tick over on the startup hehe. Was quite something to see it get to 4MB!

I quite liked the green mono coloured screens too lol

Pricing is only proportionate to the stupidity of the buyer.

The first laser diode I bought cost $18.

Not a laser printer or a laser pointer. Just the fuckin' raw diode.

Technology didn't grow in the little bite sized they fed us either. Every year the newer model ran just a little faster, had just little more storage, and a tweaked operating system with a few more sparkles so every one would rush out and buy it.

Add just enough to keep the buyer wanting more but keep from pissing them off.

Moore's law is something like: Performance doubles every 2 years and price drops by half.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 17, 2017, 08:41:58 PM

Do you miss that modem connection symphony too?   

Eeeeeeeeee

EEEEEEEEEE

BING

BONG

RUUUUUHHHH

REEEEEEE

And my personal favorite:

CHAAAAAAA TRLRLLL

Catchy tune but hard to dance to . . . I'd give it a 4

Moore's law is something like: Performance doubles every 2 years and price drops by half.

Contrary to popular belief, Moore's law says nothing about performance or price.  It has more to do with the number of transistors on a die doubling every 2 years.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 17, 2017, 11:07:52 PM

Moore's law is something like: Performance doubles every 2 years and price drops by half.

Contrary to popular belief, Moore's law says nothing about performance or price.  It has more to do with the number of transistors on a die doubling every 2 years.

And I don't know why they called it a law. It was a prediction. It held true for several decades then started tapering off, as predicted.