Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit

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markjo

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2017, 06:26:20 AM »
Defend your orbit with a yo-yo, if you can!!!
Why a yo-yo?  Do you think that gravitation acts like a string?
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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2017, 06:27:47 AM »
A string only applies tension when it is stretched. Anything less than a stretch to its full length, and the tension decreases or ceases altogether.

Gravity applies whatever the distance.

Not the same at all.

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2017, 06:50:11 AM »
Congratulations, InFlatEarth, you have found out something:

Gravity does not act like a string!

You want a cookie now?


BTW: When you are able to perform actual calculations you would see that (in the limit m_earth << m_sun) exactly those elliptical orbits are the bound solutions to the differential equation. I challenge you to do it!

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2017, 09:08:33 AM »
Defend your orbit with a yo-yo, if you can!!!
Why a yo-yo?  Do you think that gravitation acts like a string?

Do you think that gravity asks like a spring?
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2017, 09:17:16 AM »
Defend your orbit with a yo-yo, if you can!!!
Why a yo-yo?  Do you think that gravitation acts like a string?

Do you think that gravity asks like a spring?

Maybe you are better with other attracting force


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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2017, 11:11:02 AM »
Defend your orbit with a yo-yo, if you can!!!
Why a yo-yo?  Do you think that gravitation acts like a string?

Do you think that gravity asks like a spring?
No.  Do you?

According to Einstein, gravity acts kinda, sorta like this:
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2017, 02:13:52 PM »
Do you think that gravity asks like a spring?
I already told you it doesn't.

Force on spring:
F=k*dx, where dx is the distance from the 0 point, where there is no force.
Force due to gravity:
F=k/r^2, where r is the distance between the masses.

Note the difference? the spring is directly proportional to distance.
You increase the distance, you increase the force.
Force due to gravity is inversely proportional to the distance squared.
You increase the distance, you decrease the force.

Does that sound the same? No.

Treating gravity as a string only works for perfectly circular orbits.

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2017, 11:13:34 PM »
Can you please explain why the Moon is accelerating?

We can learn a lot by studying our history and reading old scientific books

Below is a portion from a book from 1858

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The time occupied by the moon in returning to the same star is called the time of her sidereal revolution. At the beginning of this century it amounted to 27.32 mean solar days. Its value is not the same in every century. From the time of the most ancient observations until the present day, we find that the sidereal revolution has been gradually becoming shorter and shorter. Will this acceleration always continue? This is a question which observation is incapable of deciding.

Popular Astronomy by Francois Arago 1858 - Page 235

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bNAUAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA257&dq=Popular+astronomy+volume+2&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjUsPij6e7TAhWELcAKHQfdDo4Q6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=Popular%20astronomy%20volume%202&f=false

This link to the book was given to me yesterday by Spherical Earth believer.

Can you please show me the math, that the Moon can accelerate in a Heliocentric Theory.

Know, if you claim that this book is bogus, then why would one of the Heliocentric Theory believers recommend to me to read a bogus book?

When I can say to you, that all of your sources are questionable and thus have to be truly examined

To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

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frenat

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2017, 05:17:58 AM »
Can you please explain why the Moon is accelerating?

We can learn a lot by studying our history and reading old scientific books

Below is a portion from a book from 1858

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The time occupied by the moon in returning to the same star is called the time of her sidereal revolution. At the beginning of this century it amounted to 27.32 mean solar days. Its value is not the same in every century. From the time of the most ancient observations until the present day, we find that the sidereal revolution has been gradually becoming shorter and shorter. Will this acceleration always continue? This is a question which observation is incapable of deciding.

Popular Astronomy by Francois Arago 1858 - Page 235

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bNAUAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA257&dq=Popular+astronomy+volume+2&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjUsPij6e7TAhWELcAKHQfdDo4Q6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=Popular%20astronomy%20volume%202&f=false

This link to the book was given to me yesterday by Spherical Earth believer.

Can you please show me the math, that the Moon can accelerate in a Heliocentric Theory.

Know, if you claim that this book is bogus, then why would one of the Heliocentric Theory believers recommend to me to read a bogus book?

When I can say to you, that all of your sources are questionable and thus have to be truly examined

I believe that is referencing tidal friction. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_acceleration
http://study.com/academy/lesson/tidal-friction-effects-on-earth-the-moon.html
https://www.britannica.com/topic/tidal-friction
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Astro/tidfrict.html

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2017, 05:49:16 AM »
I see you made a new thread about the moon, so I wont bother answering it here.

So now how about you address what has already been said in this thread, such as how elliptical orbits are stable?

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2017, 06:07:20 AM »
Try to explain this, in a Heliocentric hypothesis and a Elliptical Orbit

Let’s do the math

Have you heard of leap year, every 4 years we add a date to the calendar (February 29).

There is also something called leap second.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second

Since this system of correction was implemented in 1972, 27 leap seconds have been inserted, the most recent on December 31, 2016 at 23:59:60 UTC

So the rate that the leap second is added is

27 seconds / 44 years = 0.613636364 seconds/year
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What does that actually means?

Last year the earth needed 0.614 seconds to complete it’s revolution.

Than in turn means that last year was spinning faster than this year.

Let extrapolate the math at this rate:




We see that in the bible timeline, the earth rotation is very close to our about 23 hours in a day, but at 140,800 years, the earth spins at 60 RPM, that is 60 revolutions per minute.

At 1 million years ago, the earth rotated at a rate of about 480 RPM
At 100 million years ago, the earth rotated at a rate of 42,613.6 RPM

But let me guess, gravity was much stronger back them and kept everything in place…

Busted!!!
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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2017, 06:11:13 AM »
I see you are assuming the rate is constant when it is known it is not.

also, what is the point of spamming the same post across the forum?  all it does is make you look desperate.

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2017, 06:14:01 AM »
I see you are assuming the rate is constant when it is known it is not.

also, what is the point of spamming the same post across the forum?  all it does is make you look desperate.

Time flows at a constant rate, this principle is used to determine the distance to the stars and radioactive dating.

If time is not linear, then the same must be applied for star distances and radioactive dating, producing a young earth...
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

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frenat

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2017, 06:15:30 AM »
I see you are assuming the rate is constant when it is known it is not.

also, what is the point of spamming the same post across the forum?  all it does is make you look desperate.

Time flows at a constant rate, this principle is used to determine the distance to the stars and radioactive dating.

If time is not linear, then the same must be applied for star distances and radioactive dating, producing a young earth...

NOBODY said time is not constant.  Please stop trying to put words in others' mouths.

the rate at which the Moon recedes is not constant.

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2017, 06:25:20 AM »
I see you are assuming the rate is constant when it is known it is not.

also, what is the point of spamming the same post across the forum?  all it does is make you look desperate.

Time flows at a constant rate, this principle is used to determine the distance to the stars and radioactive dating.

If time is not linear, then the same must be applied for star distances and radioactive dating, producing a young earth...

NOBODY said time is not constant.  Please stop trying to put words in others' mouths.

the rate at which the Moon recedes is not constant.

have you heard of a negative angular acceleration?

If time is not constant, was it faster or slower in the precious years. Please provide citations as proof?
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2017, 06:29:52 AM »
I see you are assuming the rate is constant when it is known it is not.

also, what is the point of spamming the same post across the forum?  all it does is make you look desperate.

Time flows at a constant rate, this principle is used to determine the distance to the stars and radioactive dating.

If time is not linear, then the same must be applied for star distances and radioactive dating, producing a young earth...

NOBODY said time is not constant.  Please stop trying to put words in others' mouths.

the rate at which the Moon recedes is not constant.

have you heard of a negative angular acceleration?

If time is not constant, was it faster or slower in the precious years. Please provide citations as proof?

Our clock is based on the interval between between the sun's daily zenith - not one rotation of the planet. This keeps the sun at its zenith locally at noon as the earth orbits the sun. Which I'm sure you know.

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frenat

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2017, 06:36:51 AM »
I see you are assuming the rate is constant when it is known it is not.

also, what is the point of spamming the same post across the forum?  all it does is make you look desperate.

Time flows at a constant rate, this principle is used to determine the distance to the stars and radioactive dating.

If time is not linear, then the same must be applied for star distances and radioactive dating, producing a young earth...

NOBODY said time is not constant.  Please stop trying to put words in others' mouths.

the rate at which the Moon recedes is not constant.

have you heard of a negative angular acceleration?

If time is not constant, was it faster or slower in the precious years. Please provide citations as proof?
AGAIN, nobody said anything about time not being constant.  You are AGAIN trying to put words in other people's mouths.
Do you really not know the difference between time and a rate?  Didn't you claim to be an engineer?

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2017, 06:41:56 AM »
I see you are assuming the rate is constant when it is known it is not.

also, what is the point of spamming the same post across the forum?  all it does is make you look desperate.

Time flows at a constant rate, this principle is used to determine the distance to the stars and radioactive dating.

If time is not linear, then the same must be applied for star distances and radioactive dating, producing a young earth...

NOBODY said time is not constant.  Please stop trying to put words in others' mouths.

the rate at which the Moon recedes is not constant.

have you heard of a negative angular acceleration?

If time is not constant, was it faster or slower in the precious years. Please provide citations as proof?

Our clock is based on the interval between between the sun's daily zenith - not one rotation of the planet. This keeps the sun at its zenith locally at noon as the earth orbits the sun. Which I'm sure you know.

But if you read the book from 1858, it states that the moon accelerates with respect to the start positions.
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2017, 02:43:31 PM »
Try to explain this, in a Heliocentric hypothesis and a Elliptical Orbit
Stop spamming the same shit all over the place.

Post it in one thread and leave it there. It has already been dealt with.
Your analysis is based upon numerous assumptions you have no backing for.

Now again, DEAL WITH THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD!!!

Do you accept elliptical orbits are stable?
Yes or no?

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markjo

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2017, 03:02:24 PM »
But if you read the book from 1858, it states that the moon accelerates with respect to the start positions.
I haven't read that book, but I'm willing to bet that it says that the moon is orbiting about a spherical earth.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2017, 03:42:35 PM »
Read your history, Piltdown Man was  fabricated in 1912 and was exposed in the 50's. They had even made a fucking memorial for the find.
Yes, "fabricated in 1912"!

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The same standards that the scientist had in 1912,
Some evidence of that please! Who revealed the Piltdown Hoax? Scientists of course!
Please read PILTDOWN: Evidence of Smith-Woodward's Complicity by Gerell M. Drawhorn (UC Davis)/color].
There are a few "bad eggs" in every profession and trade and of course YOU are pure as the driven snow!

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are used today, oh by the way, when did the scientist accept Einsteins relativity theory???
Which "scientist accept Einsteins relativity theory"?
Einstein's SR and GR seemed very radical changes and as you say
"everything must be checked and rechecked to verify. True scientists will not have a problem with that all"
Not only that, SR and GR are being continually checked and rechecked because no real scientists regards is as "The Truth" as FEers like to claim anout their "beliefs".

You clearly have no real idea of how real science works.
Try reading at least some of the simpler journals and see just how much quetioning of "accepted theories" goes on.

Then you will find plenty of papers published questioning relativity, gravitation hypotheses, dark energy and dark matter and even the need for them.

Scientific theories are questioned all the time.

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You Your profession does not have a clean record, and thus everything must be checked and rechecked to verify. True scientists will not have a problem with that all.
What do you mean by my profession?
I am not, never claimed to be and never have been a "scientist" and I do believe that Engineering has enjoyed a rather good reputation, thank you Mr InFlatEarth.

Whereas you have been spreading proven false information all over this forum and I have no way of knowing
whether this is intentional or out of pure ignorance.
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Just because you say something is true, does not meant that it is true.

I totally agree, as we have seen dozens of times:
Just because you say something is true, does not meant that it is true.

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2017, 08:07:49 PM »
Try to explain this, in a Heliocentric hypothesis and a Elliptical Orbit

Let’s do the math

Have you heard of leap year, every 4 years we add a date to the calendar (February 29).

There is also something called leap second.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second

Since this system of correction was implemented in 1972, 27 leap seconds have been inserted, the most recent on December 31, 2016 at 23:59:60 UTC

So the rate that the leap second is added is

27 seconds / 44 years = 0.613636364 seconds/year

What does that actually means?

Last year the earth needed 0.614 seconds to complete it’s revolution.

Than in turn means that last year was spinning faster than this year.

Not necessarily. Your number itself doesn't necessarily mean the rotation of the earth is slowing down.

We're getting into the weeds here, but you brought it up. Let's look at the details and the facts:

The first leap second was inserted at the end of 30 June 1972 at 23:59:60 UTC.

The last leap second was inserted at the end of 31 Dec 2016 at  23:59:60 UTC.

Between 00:00:00 1 Jul 1972 UTC (immediately after the insertion of the first leap second) and 00:00:00 1 Jan 2017 (immediately after the insertion of the 27th leap second) there were exactly 16,255 civil days, including leap days (thank you, Excel). Each civil days is nominally 86,400 seconds long plus a very occasional leap second, so those 16,255 days amount to 1,404,432,000 (one billion, 404 million, 432 thousand) seconds plus 26 (twenty-six) leap seconds, or 1,404,432,026 (one billion, 404 million, 432 thousand and twenty-six) seconds.

Now, the nuisance of leap seconds are (barely) tolerated to keep UTC, which is legal time based on atomic clocks, coordinated within one second of UT1, which is based on the slightly more variable rotation of the earth. The 26-second correction over 16,255 civil days means that, on average, the actual rotation of the earth was 0.0000019% (1,404,432,026/1,404,432,000 = 1.000000019; about 2 parts in 100 million) slower than the technical definition of a civil day. This number alone says nothing about whether the rotation of the earth is speeding up, slowing down, or if the definition of the length of a day was off by about the same amount as most physical constants are known. In fact, the rotation of the earth is known to be slowing down, but it ain't by anything close to 27 seconds in 44.5 years.

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Let extrapolate the math at this rate:



We see that in the bible timeline, the earth rotation is very close to our about 23 [?] hours in a day, but at 140,800 years, the earth spins at 60 RPM, that is 60 revolutions per minute.

At 1 million years ago, the earth rotated at a rate of about 480 RPM
At 100 million years ago, the earth rotated at a rate of 42,613.6 RPM

That's nice. That's the problem with blindly extrapolating data you don't understand waaaayyyy beyond the domain of the actual data. Doing that almost almost always gives you very wacky answers. If you actually believe long extrapolations without knowing the root cause of the change (including having a good handle on the error that exists in all measurements), it just shows that you don't understand what the data is telling you.

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But let me guess, gravity was much stronger back them and kept everything in place…

Or, waaaayyyy more likely, linearly extrapolating 44 years (actually 44.5 years, but who's counting, right?) of data you don't understand out to 100 million years, one million years, or even 100,000 years, is giving a preposterous answer. But, nah! It couldn't be that, could it?

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Busted!!!

You sure were. Oops!
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #52 on: July 26, 2017, 12:11:42 AM »
The numbers don't lie...

Their is a linear line in the graph between Leap seconds added and the number of years that have passed

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The data

Year   Leap Seconds
1972   2
1973   1
1974   1
1975   1
1976   1
1977   1
1978   1
1979   1
1980   0
1981   1
1982   1
1983   1
1984   0
1985   1
1986   0
1987   1
1988   0
1989   1
1990   1
1991   0
1992   1
1993   1
1994   1
1995   1
1996   0
1997   1
1998   1
1999   0
2000   0
2001   0
2002   0
2003   0
2004   0
2005   1
2006   0
2007   0
2008   1
2009   0
2010   0
2011   0
2012   1
2013   0
2014   0
2015   1
2016   1
2017   0
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2017, 12:21:23 AM »
I have been reading that the Flat Earther’s don’t have a model of the sun and the earth. Well, they might be right, but I will come back to you and say that the Spherical Earther’s don’t have a correct model either.

The Parabolic Orbit is pure fiction and I will explain why.

Take a yo-yo and spin it in the air. It will make a circular orbit because the tension in string will hold it in position. A string or rope can only have expansion forces; no compression forces. You can’t push something with a string, only pull.

In our yo-yo model, take the sun to be your hand and the earth to be the yo-yo.
The string is the force that binds the sun and the earth together and it can act only in one direction, it can’t do both pull and push.

In order to have a model of the Sun – earth rotation with an elliptical trajectory, with a yo-yo, that would mean that the string would have to change in size as it is spinning.

Which would mean that the gravitational forces of the sun to the earth will have to change, based upon the position.

Also from basic geometry, we know to plot a ellipse, you need to have two focal point where in a circle you have only one.

In the Heliocentric Model, we only have 1 focal point, the sun.

The elliptical orbit is pure fiction, but it was the only way that they could make the heliocentric hypothesis to work out.

Can the Spherical Earthers, build something that rotates in an elliptical orbit, like a motor?

Last time I checked they were all round.

They have created funny math to make it appear that it works, but it really does not. Like I say, make a yo-yo have an elliptical orbit and I will agree with you that I am wrong.

Your notion of how gravity works is childish to say the least.....there are no strings involved.
You really need to question your motivation in putting forward your vain attempts in trying to discredit science that's driven by no more than your basic ignorance and prejudices.

The motion of the planets has been well understood for hundreds of years with calculations that can predict with great accuracy future planetRy positions. The total eclipse in a couple of weeks time is a good example. If what you were saying were true how could any accurTe predictions ever be made?

Ps.
The solar system is made up of hundreds of orbiting bodies all making their presence felt in a gravitational sense.

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2017, 12:26:43 AM »
I have been reading that the Flat Earther’s don’t have a model of the sun and the earth. Well, they might be right, but I will come back to you and say that the Spherical Earther’s don’t have a correct model either.

The Parabolic Orbit is pure fiction and I will explain why.

Take a yo-yo and spin it in the air. It will make a circular orbit because the tension in string will hold it in position. A string or rope can only have expansion forces; no compression forces. You can’t push something with a string, only pull.

In our yo-yo model, take the sun to be your hand and the earth to be the yo-yo.
The string is the force that binds the sun and the earth together and it can act only in one direction, it can’t do both pull and push.

In order to have a model of the Sun – earth rotation with an elliptical trajectory, with a yo-yo, that would mean that the string would have to change in size as it is spinning.

Which would mean that the gravitational forces of the sun to the earth will have to change, based upon the position.

Also from basic geometry, we know to plot a ellipse, you need to have two focal point where in a circle you have only one.

In the Heliocentric Model, we only have 1 focal point, the sun.

The elliptical orbit is pure fiction, but it was the only way that they could make the heliocentric hypothesis to work out.

Can the Spherical Earthers, build something that rotates in an elliptical orbit, like a motor?

Last time I checked they were all round.

They have created funny math to make it appear that it works, but it really does not. Like I say, make a yo-yo have an elliptical orbit and I will agree with you that I am wrong.

Your notion of how gravity works is childish to say the least.....there are no strings involved.
You really need to question your motivation in putting forward your vain attempts in trying to discredit science that's driven by no more than your basic ignorance and prejudices.

The motion of the planets has been well understood for hundreds of years with calculations that can predict with great accuracy future planetRy positions. The total eclipse in a couple of weeks time is a good example. If what you were saying were true how could any accurTe predictions ever be made?

Ps.
The solar system is made up of hundreds of orbiting bodies all making their presence felt in a gravitational sense.

You said  "been well understood for hundreds of years" but they have been misunderstood, since they believe that they are physical objects, instead of lights in the sky.

Why don't you try your planetary calculations on a strobe light, and see if it will work!!!

if their basic assumption is wrong, then all their calculations are wrong also.
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2017, 12:33:22 AM »
The numbers don't lie...

Their is a linear line in the graph between Leap seconds added and the number of years that have passed

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The data

Year   Leap Seconds
1972   2
1973   1
1974   1
1975   1
1976   1
1977   1
1978   1
1979   1
1980   0
1981   1
1982   1
1983   1
1984   0
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What are you havering about? Like gravity your understanding for the need for the inclusion of leap seconds is again laughable. They are used every now and then to keep Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) close to the mean solar time. Why?.....because of small irregularities in Earth's orbit due to various climatic and geological events driven partly by the varying energy we receive from the sun. We live in a system that's dynamic hence the need to fine tune.

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2017, 12:40:09 AM »
What you can't explain in your Heliocentric fair-tail, you call it laughable.

Bottom line you are always adding second to the clock, because the earth is slowing down.

Your basic logic is this.

If I keep getting loans to by things, and never pay the loans back, somehow the money that I owe and the money that I have will balance out and I will not owe anything!!!

Your economics fit perfectly in a Heliocentric Model of the Earth, that has life on it!!!

Your Hypothesis has been busted!!!
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

Werner Von Braun

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Kami

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2017, 01:54:20 AM »
I have a dream, that one day, InFlatEarth will rise up and post something in the thread it belongs to, and not in five different threads all over the board!

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InFlatEarth

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #58 on: July 26, 2017, 01:58:00 AM »
I have a dream, that one day, InFlatEarth will rise up and post something in the thread it belongs to, and not in five different threads all over the board!

We all have dreams



My dream is the scientist will tell the truth about the flat earth
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

Werner Von Braun

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rabinoz

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Re: Parabolic Orbit vs Radial Orbit
« Reply #59 on: July 26, 2017, 02:31:52 AM »
I have a dream, that one day, InFlatEarth will rise up and post something in the thread it belongs to, and not in five different threads all over the board!

We all have dreams

My dream is the scientist will tell the truth about the flat earth
They do, and have done for recorded history.
The Sumerians, Babylonians and early Chinese "scientisrs" (astronomers/astrologers) might have believed the earth was flat, but they told the truth as they saw it.

And I have not seen any evidence that any real scientist believes the earth flat, yet claims it to be a Globe.