How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2017, 01:41:44 AM »
If I jump up in the air do I land in the same place?

This depend if you believe in the Heliocentric hypothesis?

In reality Yes, but in the Heliocentric hypothesis No

If you jump on an airplane going at a constant speed of 600mph, do you end up at the end of the plane?

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2017, 01:45:25 AM »
If I jump up in the air do I land in the same place?

This depend if you believe in the Heliocentric hypothesis?

In reality Yes, but in the Heliocentric hypothesis No

If you jump on an airplane going at a constant speed of 600mph, do you end up at the end of the plane?


Please provide citation of the Convention Heat Transfer Model of a spinning sphere when it radiates to the environment, just like earth does, where it shows the thermal and velocity boundary layers.
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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2017, 01:46:05 AM »

I have proven that the earth is stationary

No you haven't, you've just built yourself a strawman to play with.

Please provide citation of the Convention Heat Transfer Model of a spinning sphere when it radiates to the environment, just like earth does, where it shows the thermal and velocity boundary layers.

There's an atmosphere where the heat is retained.

https://www.ucar.edu/learn/1_3_1.htm

Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2017, 01:46:42 AM »
If I jump up in the air do I land in the same place?

This depend if you believe in the Heliocentric hypothesis?

In reality Yes, but in the Heliocentric hypothesis No

If you jump on an airplane going at a constant speed of 600mph, do you end up at the end of the plane?


Please provide citation of the Convention Heat Transfer Model of a spinning sphere when it radiates to the environment, just like earth does, where it shows the thermal and velocity boundary layers.

And you wrote that right after I replied to you. Quit dodging the question.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2017, 01:47:36 AM »
Please provide citation of the Convention Heat Transfer Model of a spinning sphere when it radiates to the environment, just like earth does, where it shows the thermal and velocity boundary layers.
What is a "Convention Heat Transfer Model"?
Just wondering!

Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2017, 01:51:39 AM »
Please provide citation of the Convention Heat Transfer Model of a spinning sphere when it radiates to the environment, just like earth does, where it shows the thermal and velocity boundary layers.
What is a "Convention Heat Transfer Model"?
Just wondering!

He's probably asking how heat is retained on Earth or some irrelevant dumb sh*t like that

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2017, 01:57:16 AM »
Please provide citation of the Convention Heat Transfer Model of a spinning sphere when it radiates to the environment, just like earth does, where it shows the thermal and velocity boundary layers.
What is a "Convention Heat Transfer Model"?
Just wondering!

If you don't know what Convection Heat Transfer is, then you are not engineer. But let me educate you.

Heat transfer can be accomplished by 3 ways, Conduction (two bodies touching), Convection (a body with an environment) and radiation.

A model is a representation of the event with equations and diagrams.

So when I ask for a Convention Heat Transfer Model I am asking for documentation of the calculations that were created that proves that the velocity boundary layers of the spinning sphere that loses heat, like the Earth supposedly does, will be the same in height as the earth's atmosphere.

If such a model does not excites, then the velocity boundary layer of the Earth spinning will not be able to keep the atmosphere synchronized to the Earth, which in turn will disprove your hypothesis.

You are making claims that something is true and I am challenging your claims.

Put up or shut up!!!


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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2017, 01:59:15 AM »

I have proven that the earth is stationary

No you haven't, you've just built yourself a strawman to play with.

This is not a Convection Heat Transfer Model of the Earth with Velocity Boundary layers.

You are trying to bullshit your way out of the corner that you are in!!!

Please provide citation of the Convention Heat Transfer Model of a spinning sphere when it radiates to the environment, just like earth does, where it shows the thermal and velocity boundary layers.

There's an atmosphere where the heat is retained.

https://www.ucar.edu/learn/1_3_1.htm

First of all, this is not a Convention Heat Transfer Model.

Second of all, it doe not have any calculations whatsoever

You are falling into the Piltdown Man Complex
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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2017, 02:30:10 AM »
And on this note, Good night!!!
OK

How about a FBD for each of the sun and moon orbiting above the flat earth?

Answer that,

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2017, 02:35:42 AM »
And on this note, Good night!!!
OK

How about a FBD for each of the sun and moon orbiting above the flat earth?

Answer that,

Are you stupid or have never taken physics?

You want me to create one  free body diagram that has 3 object in it. What college did you attend?

By definition a Free Body Diagram has ONLY 1 object and all forces that act upon that object.

To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2017, 02:43:12 AM »
Please provide citation of the Convention Heat Transfer Model of a spinning sphere when it radiates to the environment, just like earth does, where it shows the thermal and velocity boundary layers.
What is a "Convention Heat Transfer Model"?
Just wondering!

If you don't know what Convection Heat Transfer is, then you are not engineer. But let me educate you.

Dipstick! 
You did not ask for Convection Heat Transfer.

You asked for  ;D ;D "Convention Heat Transfer".  ;D  ;D

Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2017, 03:01:01 AM »
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So when I ask for a Convention Heat Transfer Model I am asking for documentation of the calculations that were created that proves that the velocity boundary layers of the spinning sphere that loses heat, like the Earth supposedly does, will be the same in height as the earth's atmosphere.

"Velocity Boundary layer".

Unless you're referring to aerodynamics (which you're not), you have made this up on your own. Earth's atmosphere rotates along with Earth's surface because of friction. The Earth has enough time for the forces of friction to cause the atmosphere to rotate with the Earth. This has nothing to do with "losing heat". Whether or not the Earth was spinning is directly irrelevant.

How the Earth maintains heat is a different story. That's atmospheric science.

https://icp.giss.nasa.gov/education/radforce/energybudget.GIF

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2017, 03:01:51 AM »
Spelling may not be my expertise, but at least I know the basic governing principles of a Free Body Diagram
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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2017, 03:03:24 AM »
And on this note, Good night!!!
OK

How about a FBD for each of the sun and moon orbiting above the flat earth?

Answer that,

Are you stupid or have never taken physics?

You want me to create one  free body diagram that has 3 object in it. What college did you attend?

By definition a Free Body Diagram has ONLY 1 object and all forces that act upon that object.


Create a Free Body Diagram that illustrates the orbital mechanics and the forces at play of the Sun relative to the Flat Earth.

Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2017, 03:05:36 AM »
Spelling may not be my expertise, but at least I know the basic governing principles of a Free Body Diagram

I'm calling it. This guy's a troll.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2017, 03:08:41 AM »
And on this note, Good night!!!
OK

How about a FBD for each of the sun and moon orbiting above the flat earth?

Answer that,

Are you stupid or have never taken physics?
You want me to create one  free body diagram that has 3 object in it. What college did you attend?
By definition a Free Body Diagram has ONLY 1 object and all forces that act upon that object.
Ooh, we are getting  :D touchy aren't we!  :D

Do I have to translate simple English for you now, guess you skipped Reading Comprehension 101!

No I am not stupid, I asked you for  "a FBD for each of the sun and moon orbiting above the flat earth".

Now, "a FBD for each" means one FBD for each, that is a number of separate Free Body Diagrams.
I was not expecting the earth as well, because that depends too much on which one of the numerous flat earth models you subscribe to.

So present me with a FBD for the sun circling above the flat earth.
This must show the forces on the sun allowing it to maintain its (unknown) height and causing it to travel in its weird spiralling motion.
Then do the same for the moon.

Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Now,  how about it!

PS We know how those things work on the Heliocentric Globe! You see we have a model that works, you don't.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2017, 03:11:53 AM »
I thought the question was how stupid were scientists?

However,
How can you simultaneously demand"scientific proof" while deriding the work of all science...


Oh, I know, in the same way you ask why a picture from a satellite does not show a mountain / dome.....and at the same time believe that said satellite could not exist in the first place.

The wikipedia description of a fee body diagram actually describes the forces acting on a gymnast, and one is the earths rotation.
Go and read it properly and you might learn something.

Unlike yourself I did listen and learn in basic and advanced physics, and all evidence , proof and physical observation confirmed a round (ish), rotating heliocentric planet.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2017, 03:17:46 AM »
And on this note, Good night!!!
OK

How about a FBD for each of the sun and moon orbiting above the flat earth?

Answer that,

Are you stupid or have never taken physics?

You want me to create one  free body diagram that has 3 object in it. What college did you attend?

By definition a Free Body Diagram has ONLY 1 object and all forces that act upon that object.


Create a Free Body Diagram that illustrates the orbital mechanics and the forces at play of the Sun relative to the Flat Earth.

How can you make a free body diagram of a light source???

Does light have mass?

If so, what is the maximum distance that a single photon can travel???

Once you answer these questions, then I will draw your FBD.

What about my FBD with the airplane landing...
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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2017, 03:21:12 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2017, 03:25:56 AM »
I thought the question was how stupid were scientists?

However,
How can you simultaneously demand"scientific proof" while deriding the work of all science...


Oh, I know, in the same way you ask why a picture from a satellite does not show a mountain / dome.....and at the same time believe that said satellite could not exist in the first place.

The wikipedia description of a fee body diagram actually describes the forces acting on a gymnast, and one is the earths rotation.
Go and read it properly and you might learn something.

Unlike yourself I did listen and learn in basic and advanced physics, and all evidence , proof and physical observation confirmed a round (ish), rotating heliocentric planet.

Heat transfer will be the end of you!

What is the temperature of the environment that the Satellites operate in?

Before you answer this think very carefully of your answer.

Place your answer in the below thread.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=71393.0

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2017, 04:54:25 AM »
Also mathematics tell us, that there is no earth curvature.
Math alone cannot tell you anything.
But math, combined with observation can.

And that tells us that Earth is round.

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And you even have parts of the oil rigs hidden in this video. So much for disproving curvature.

You also clearly have distortion.
Unless you want to say the crane really looks like that?



I have proven that the earth is stationary, because you can’t draw a FBD of an airplane landing and show the forces that sync the plane to the earths movement, nor have provided any citation in which you show the convention heat transfer model of a spinning sphere that radiates to its environment with the thermal and velocity boundary layers.
No. You have proven you are a pathetic dishonest troll with no interest in the truth or rational debate.
You have been provided with a FBD, and it has been explained to you that Earth RADIATES heat, rather than transfer it to other environments by convection.
You have been completely unable to prove any of your baseless claims.

You have no proof that the earth’s atmosphere moves with the supposedly spinning earth and yet you still believe in it.
Because if it didn't, friction would force it to.

This is stupidity and it fall in line with the Piltdown Man.
No, it is "stupidity" in line with thinking it is possible for the wind to blow things around.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2017, 05:21:47 AM »
Also mathematics tell us, that there is no earth curvature.
Math alone cannot tell you anything.
But math, combined with observation can.

And that tells us that Earth is round.

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And you even have parts of the oil rigs hidden in this video. So much for disproving curvature.

You also clearly have distortion.
Unless you want to say the crane really looks like that?



I have proven that the earth is stationary, because you can’t draw a FBD of an airplane landing and show the forces that sync the plane to the earths movement, nor have provided any citation in which you show the convention heat transfer model of a spinning sphere that radiates to its environment with the thermal and velocity boundary layers.
No. You have proven you are a pathetic dishonest troll with no interest in the truth or rational debate.
You have been provided with a FBD, and it has been explained to you that Earth RADIATES heat, rather than transfer it to other environments by convection.
You have been completely unable to prove any of your baseless claims.

You have no proof that the earth’s atmosphere moves with the supposedly spinning earth and yet you still believe in it.
Because if it didn't, friction would force it to.

This is stupidity and it fall in line with the Piltdown Man.
No, it is "stupidity" in line with thinking it is possible for the wind to blow things around.

I have a very small portion not visible but I have an extremely large portion visible that should have not been visible if the earth was curved.

It's like I own you 1 dollar and you own me 1000 dollars, Who is better off...

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2017, 05:29:51 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth. 

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2017, 05:38:53 AM »
InFlatEarth, can you please stop providing so much facepalm material? A FBD is not all there is to science.
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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2017, 05:40:55 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

He could even include a FBD of the Sun, I'd def like to see that.  :D
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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2017, 06:04:40 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2017, 06:10:14 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2017, 06:14:38 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

This is all useless since in another thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

Werner Von Braun

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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2017, 06:16:56 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

This is all useless since in another thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!

This is an irrelevant argument. It's also flawed because pilots don't have to keep dipping their airplanes to maintain their altitude.
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Re: How stupid are the scientist that believe in the Heliocentric Model?
« Reply #59 on: July 23, 2017, 06:27:42 AM »
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Just remember that according the this Flat Earth Society the sun and moon are each about 50 km in diameter and about 5000 km high.

Have I ever stated this in a post?

Just because some people think this is true, does not mean that I believe it., Actually it could be very easily calculated using the standard that ophthalmology have for 20/ 20 vision.
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays up above the earth.

If you were not paying attention, in an other thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!
Great, go ahead.  Calculate the size and distance of the sun and explain how it stays above the earth.  You claimed it was easy.

This is all useless since in another thread a pilot of 13,000 hour of flight just stated that he never dipped his airplane to follow the earth curvature.

You know have a big problems on your hand, to try to explain how the gyroscopes that keep the airplane level are always parallel to a curved earth...

You have been demolished, and all this on a Sunday...

God is great!!!

This is an irrelevant argument. It's also flawed because pilots don't have to keep dipping their airplanes to maintain their altitude.

Irrelevant that we have testimony that the earth has no curvature???

It prove the point that you have the Piltdown Man Syndrome , to believe every lie that fits into your narrative...
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

The Truth Will Set You Free

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