Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #330 on: July 27, 2017, 04:46:56 AM »
On the screen she pointed to, when she was pointing to it, it was an image of Earth.


This image, to be precise:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS11/36/5353.jpg

Here it is in a newspaper published just after they landed back on Earth, my own copy.



The weather patterns in it match those that can be found on 3 weather satellites for the time it was taken, and the view could only be from waaaay out in cislunar space. Lovely and spherical it is.

Your argument does not make any sense.

If they have faked the Earth photo,

They didn't..


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don't you think that they would also fake the satellite photos?

Logically speaking it does not hold up.

They could not have faked the photos. For one thing, the satellite photos were public knowledge, not just in the sense that they were published all over the place in all kinds of newspapers and technical journals, but also in that they were 'free to air'. Anyone with the right receiving equipment could download the image transmissions just like they can now. They were sent out to meteorological organisations world wide.

Secondly, they could not just 'fake' one satellite image. The images are part of a continuous sequence, they would have to fake all of them, all the time. All of this at a time when they did not have any kind of digital imaging software.

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The newspaper is two small to read, can you please paste a true size of it, I wan't to read it.

I'm sure you do, but I'm not sure what you think it will prove. If I get time I'll look at my scans of them, and if I can be bothered I'll post it. That newspaper was published on August 4 1969. I have other newspapers where the same image was published on July 31, it's also been featured in several books. My point is that you are not dealing with images that have been hidden away - both the Apollo and satellite images have always been public.

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Also the photo that you sent me, was it from the moon or a satellite and how far away from the earth if you know.

Which image?

I've posted images in threads, I haven't sent you any.
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #331 on: July 27, 2017, 04:53:35 AM »
On the screen she pointed to, when she was pointing to it, it was an image of Earth.


This image, to be precise:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS11/36/5353.jpg

Here it is in a newspaper published just after they landed back on Earth, my own copy.



The weather patterns in it match those that can be found on 3 weather satellites for the time it was taken, and the view could only be from waaaay out in cislunar space. Lovely and spherical it is.

Your argument does not make any sense.

If they have faked the Earth photo,

They didn't..


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don't you think that they would also fake the satellite photos?

Logically speaking it does not hold up.

They could not have faked the photos. For one thing, the satellite photos were public knowledge, not just in the sense that they were published all over the place in all kinds of newspapers and technical journals, but also in that they were 'free to air'. Anyone with the right receiving equipment could download the image transmissions just like they can now. They were sent out to meteorological organisations world wide.

Secondly, they could not just 'fake' one satellite image. The images are part of a continuous sequence, they would have to fake all of them, all the time. All of this at a time when they did not have any kind of digital imaging software.

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The newspaper is two small to read, can you please paste a true size of it, I wan't to read it.

I'm sure you do, but I'm not sure what you think it will prove. If I get time I'll look at my scans of them, and if I can be bothered I'll post it. That newspaper was published on August 4 1969. I have other newspapers where the same image was published on July 31, it's also been featured in several books. My point is that you are not dealing with images that have been hidden away - both the Apollo satellite images have always been public.

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Also the photo that you sent me, was it from the moon or a satellite and how far away from the earth if you know.

Which image?

I've posted images in threads, I haven't sent you any.

Just by NASA saying that they are real does not make it so. It's like when George Bush said "that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons" does that make it true...

First of all, all the photos that NASA has from the Apollo missions where on tape, which means that they had to come back to earth and get developed and be distributed by NASA.

i stand corrected, the image that you posted on the thread of just the earth
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #332 on: July 29, 2017, 04:54:24 AM »
Am I the  only one who think that saying that thousands of NASA's photos, videos and various data cannot be real and must be all faked in a quasi global conspiration, but using bible as a reference is complete bs  ??? ???

I dont know the ratio of different religions believers in FE or RE camps, but this shit blows my mind everytime.

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« Reply #333 on: July 31, 2017, 06:45:46 AM »
Am I the  only one who think that saying that thousands of NASA's photos, videos and various data cannot be real and must be all faked in a quasi global conspiration, but using bible as a reference is complete bs  ??? ???

I dont know the ratio of different religions believers in FE or RE camps, but this shit blows my mind everytime.

It is complete bs, considering that religion was used and is still used (in a minor degree) to control people and that the bible was man made, meaning that the books selected to appear on the bible were selected by men with agendas, agendas to make a prophet appear like a divine figure and so on.

So yes, believing in the bible and saying that NASA is fakery fake of fuck made to lie (still wondering what's the gain on all of this) is a complete batshit crazy thing to do. A bunny making fun of a donkey's long ears.
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #334 on: July 31, 2017, 08:14:05 AM »

And you would not trust a system that was forced to auto-correct its self every minute, in order for the airplane not to crash.

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But you wouldn’t have a problem with a plane that must continually bank when flying east-west?
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #335 on: July 31, 2017, 08:48:31 AM »
On the screen she pointed to, when she was pointing to it, it was an image of Earth.


This image, to be precise:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS11/36/5353.jpg

Here it is in a newspaper published just after they landed back on Earth, my own copy.



The weather patterns in it match those that can be found on 3 weather satellites for the time it was taken, and the view could only be from waaaay out in cislunar space. Lovely and spherical it is.

Your argument does not make any sense.

If they have faked the Earth photo,

They didn't..


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don't you think that they would also fake the satellite photos?

Logically speaking it does not hold up.

They could not have faked the photos. For one thing, the satellite photos were public knowledge, not just in the sense that they were published all over the place in all kinds of newspapers and technical journals, but also in that they were 'free to air'. Anyone with the right receiving equipment could download the image transmissions just like they can now. They were sent out to meteorological organisations world wide.

Secondly, they could not just 'fake' one satellite image. The images are part of a continuous sequence, they would have to fake all of them, all the time. All of this at a time when they did not have any kind of digital imaging software.

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The newspaper is two small to read, can you please paste a true size of it, I wan't to read it.

I'm sure you do, but I'm not sure what you think it will prove. If I get time I'll look at my scans of them, and if I can be bothered I'll post it. That newspaper was published on August 4 1969. I have other newspapers where the same image was published on July 31, it's also been featured in several books. My point is that you are not dealing with images that have been hidden away - both the Apollo satellite images have always been public.

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Also the photo that you sent me, was it from the moon or a satellite and how far away from the earth if you know.

Which image?

I've posted images in threads, I haven't sent you any.

Just by NASA saying that they are real does not make it so. It's like when George Bush said "that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons" does that make it true...

First of all, all the photos that NASA has from the Apollo missions where on tape, which means that they had to come back to earth and get developed and be distributed by NASA.

i stand corrected, the image that you posted on the thread of just the earth
Film, not tape.

The Earth in live transmissions matches satellite photos of the same few hours.

But they could not have faked it live. For example, 2001 a space odyssey took 2 years to make 2,5 hours. Plenty of Apollo missions have a single EVA longer than that. It was not possible to edit things on the fly as the audio, video and telemetry came in from the moon. That is not possible even now. Otherwise, interactive, live Sci-fi shows would exist.

Lets start with one thing:
Apollo hoaxers say all the live footage was sped up. Alright. How did they do this live, without distorting voices, with fooling all the receiving and transmissions stations and all the private radio people that were receiving signals, while also fooling the people at mission control, including the computer complex.
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #336 on: July 31, 2017, 09:03:21 AM »
Dayyyummmm I better not Jump for joy at anytime in my life as I might have it that I land in another Province or something cause I will be suspended above the spinning world hahahaha shit, never thought of that!!!! wonder why I never moved before when I jumped or hit a jump snow boarding and got airborne !?!?!? TRIPPY ;)
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #337 on: July 31, 2017, 09:20:00 AM »
Film, not tape.

The Earth in live transmissions matches satellite photos of the same few hours.

But they could not have faked it live. For example, 2001 a space odyssey took 2 years to make 2,5 hours. Plenty of Apollo missions have a single EVA longer than that. It was not possible to edit things on the fly as the audio, video and telemetry came in from the moon. That is not possible even now. Otherwise, interactive, live Sci-fi shows would exist.

Lets start with one thing:
Apollo hoaxers say all the live footage was sped up. Alright. How did they do this live, without distorting voices, with fooling all the receiving and transmissions stations and all the private radio people that were receiving signals, while also fooling the people at mission control, including the computer complex.

You are correct in that nearly all the photos were on film a lot of which was shot on an incredible Hasselblad with a Zeiss lens.  A beauty of a camera.  I was the ships photographer on my boat and we had a couple of nice cameras but nothing like the Hasselblad 500.

However, there was quite a bit of magnetic tape that had Apollo video.  The Apollo missions had TV cameras that transmitted video to earth which was recorded on one inch analog magnetic video tape.  These tapes were scanned and converted to NTSC for broadcast.

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #338 on: July 31, 2017, 10:13:57 AM »
Film, not tape.

The Earth in live transmissions matches satellite photos of the same few hours.

But they could not have faked it live. For example, 2001 a space odyssey took 2 years to make 2,5 hours. Plenty of Apollo missions have a single EVA longer than that. It was not possible to edit things on the fly as the audio, video and telemetry came in from the moon. That is not possible even now. Otherwise, interactive, live Sci-fi shows would exist.

Lets start with one thing:
Apollo hoaxers say all the live footage was sped up. Alright. How did they do this live, without distorting voices, with fooling all the receiving and transmissions stations and all the private radio people that were receiving signals, while also fooling the people at mission control, including the computer complex.

You are correct in that nearly all the photos were on film a lot of which was shot on an incredible Hasselblad with a Zeiss lens.  A beauty of a camera.  I was the ships photographer on my boat and we had a couple of nice cameras but nothing like the Hasselblad 500.

However, there was quite a bit of magnetic tape that had Apollo video.  The Apollo missions had TV cameras that transmitted video to earth which was recorded on one inch analog magnetic video tape.  These tapes were scanned and converted to NTSC for broadcast.

Mike
That is video, not photos.

I wish they used a sophisticated convert method like that, which would most likely have made better results. Instead, the sstv signal from Apollo 11 was displayed on a screen at the ground stations. Pointed at this screen was a NTSC camera.

That is how the converting was done, at least on Apollo 11. I don't know how, or if it was done on later missions. Later missions had more bandwidth and didn't use SSTV for video. Either way it was a crappy way of doing it, and now the best photos, and a short 8-mm clip of the screens displaying the SSTV signal is the best we have, and will most likely ever have. Unless someone finds the missing reels at a ground station or in someone's basement.

(If you don't count their DAC 16-mm camera, which filmed the first steps on the moon in colour, at a higher frame rate than the SSTV signal.)


of course you can (and plenty did) take a still from a live transmission and publish that, before the CM returned to Earth and the flown film was developed.
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #339 on: July 31, 2017, 11:08:48 AM »
Dayyyummmm I better not Jump for joy at anytime in my life as I might have it that I land in another Province or something cause I will be suspended above the spinning world hahahaha shit, never thought of that!!!! wonder why I never moved before when I jumped or hit a jump snow boarding and got airborne !?!?!? TRIPPY ;)
  Because your knowledge of conservation of momentum is even less than your knowledge of photography.

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #340 on: July 31, 2017, 11:13:12 AM »
Dayyyummmm I better not Jump for joy at anytime in my life as I might have it that I land in another Province or something cause I will be suspended above the spinning world hahahaha shit, never thought of that!!!! wonder why I never moved before when I jumped or hit a jump snow boarding and got airborne !?!?!? TRIPPY ;)
  Because your knowledge of conservation of momentum is even less than your knowledge of photography.
And seems to be about on par with his knowledge of reference frames.
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #341 on: July 31, 2017, 12:02:25 PM »
Dayyyummmm I better not Jump for joy at anytime in my life as I might have it that I land in another Province or something cause I will be suspended above the spinning world hahahaha shit, never thought of that!!!! wonder why I never moved before when I jumped or hit a jump snow boarding and got airborne !?!?!? TRIPPY ;)
  Because your knowledge of conservation of momentum is even less than your knowledge of photography.
And seems to be about on par with his knowledge of reference frames.

A big fat zero, then?
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #342 on: July 31, 2017, 12:06:29 PM »
Dayyyummmm I better not Jump for joy at anytime in my life as I might have it that I land in another Province or something cause I will be suspended above the spinning world hahahaha shit, never thought of that!!!! wonder why I never moved before when I jumped or hit a jump snow boarding and got airborne !?!?!? TRIPPY ;)
  Because your knowledge of conservation of momentum is even less than your knowledge of photography.
And seems to be about on par with his knowledge of reference frames.
Well he should fit in nicely with the rest of the FE "researchers" then.   
A severe lack of ability in utilizing  cognitive functions is a prerequisite to joining that club isn't it. 

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #343 on: July 31, 2017, 12:39:39 PM »
Dayyyummmm I better not Jump for joy at anytime in my life as I might have it that I land in another Province or something cause I will be suspended above the spinning world hahahaha shit, never thought of that!!!! wonder why I never moved before when I jumped or hit a jump snow boarding and got airborne !?!?!? TRIPPY ;)
  Because your knowledge of conservation of momentum is even less than your knowledge of photography.
And seems to be about on par with his knowledge of reference frames.
Well he should fit in nicely with the rest of the FE "researchers" then.   
A severe lack of ability in utilizing  cognitive functions is a prerequisite to joining that club isn't it.
Well. I suppose goofs like that are bound to happen when you have to reinvent all of your physics from scratch to fit your otherwise unworkable model.
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #344 on: August 13, 2017, 01:12:53 AM »
Which comes back to our original argument, Free Body Diagram.

Please show the pressure force (PA) on the airplane that keeps it in sync with the earths rotation on a Free Body Diagram!

I have a question for you. Take your beloved FBD of a plane :


Now imagine that Thrust = Drag and Lift = Weight. So the forces effectively cancel out :


We have F = ma, but F = 0 so a = 0.

What happens to the plane ?

This isn't a free body diagram.

And the fact that none of you have even noticed this fact shows conclusively that none of you have any right to speak on Newton's laws of motion.

You are all retards & you prove it in post after post after post...

Lulz!!!
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #345 on: August 13, 2017, 12:37:06 PM »
This isn't a free body diagram.

And the fact that none of you have even noticed this fact shows conclusively that none of you have any right to speak on Newton's laws of motion.

You are all retards & you prove it in post after post after post...

Lulz!!!
And of course, rather than point out why you just dismiss it so you can act all high and mighty without any intelligence at all.

Grow up.

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« Reply #346 on: August 13, 2017, 01:00:26 PM »
you can act all high and mighty without any intelligence at all.

One of the primary allures of FE.

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #347 on: August 13, 2017, 01:12:18 PM »
This isn't a free body diagram.

And the fact that none of you have even noticed this fact shows conclusively that none of you have any right to speak on Newton's laws of motion.

You are all retards & you prove it in post after post after post...

Lulz!!!
And of course, rather than point out why you just dismiss it so you can act all high and mighty without any intelligence at all.

Grow up.

Hi Paul White!

Hiding behind all kindsa sockpuppets tonight aintcha?

Also, 'grow up'?

Now where have I heard that before?

That's right, here:



Wow! The  paedo is strong in that mad shit!

Are all space shills paedos?

Jarrah White is, check out the hentai:



And you have the same last name as Jarrah the paedo don't you, Paul?

Lulz!!!

Anyhoo...

You have no fucking idea what a free body diagram is or how to create one & are just thrashing around like a mad paedo retard trying to save your mad paedo self from drowning in your own paedo bullshit...

Correct?

Yes.

Correct.

Now fuck off, paedo.
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #348 on: August 13, 2017, 01:30:03 PM »
No. I know what a free body diagram is and I know how to make one.

I even provided one previously.

On the other hand, you seem to be thrashing about like a fish out of water, with no indication that you have any idea what you are talking about.

Do you have anything rational to contribute to the conversation?
If not, do us all a favour and fuck off as growing up seems to be beyond your capabilities.
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #349 on: August 13, 2017, 02:05:29 PM »
No. I know what a free body diagram is and I know how to make you.

LMFAO!!!

You're clearly drunk, Paul White...

Go to bed & get ready to face the music at work tomorrow...

You fucking paedo loser.
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« Reply #350 on: August 13, 2017, 02:49:09 PM »
Us non 65 year olds do indeed have to work tomorrow.
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« Reply #351 on: August 13, 2017, 02:57:11 PM »
No. I know what a free body diagram is and I know how to make you.

LMFAO!!!

You're clearly drunk, Paul White...

Go to bed & get ready to face the music at work tomorrow...

You fucking paedo loser.

Calm down Barry Scott - at least he has a job.

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« Reply #352 on: August 13, 2017, 03:55:03 PM »
None of you have any idea why this isn't a free body diagram do you?

You can't tell the difference between Newton's first, second & third laws & just spam wiki-shit with 39,000 sockpuppets whilst pretending you understand it...



I have fucking ruined you all today...

Yes I have, & you fucking know it!

What hopeless bastards you all are...

Toodle-pip, REtards!


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« Reply #353 on: August 14, 2017, 01:34:39 AM »
None of you have any idea why this isn't a free body diagram do you?

You can't tell the difference between Newton's first, second & third laws & just spam wiki-shit with 39,000 sockpuppets whilst pretending you understand it...



I have fucking ruined you all today...

Yes I have, & you fucking know it!

What hopeless bastards you all are...

Toodle-pip, REtards!
And there you go with a bunch more pathetic, baseless insults.

Calm down and try a rational argument.

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« Reply #354 on: August 14, 2017, 01:43:37 AM »
'I have ruined you all' loooool!! 😂

This is gold. For some reason I'm imagining a tiny evil dude with a high pitched squeaky voice when I read that post.

Thanks, that made my morning!

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« Reply #355 on: August 14, 2017, 02:16:32 AM »
None of you have any idea why this isn't a free body diagram do you?

You can't tell the difference between Newton's first, second & third laws & just spam wiki-shit with 39,000 sockpuppets whilst pretending you understand it...



I have fucking ruined you all today...

Yes I have, & you fucking know it!

What hopeless bastards you all are...

Toodle-pip, REtards!
And there you go with a bunch more pathetic, baseless insults.

Calm down and try a rational argument.

Try understanding why this is not a free body diagram, REtard...

Oh, you can't do that cos you're a scientific illiterate...

So my insults aren't baseless at all are they?

You fucking retard.

Fuck this, you autistic meat calculators are hopeless, I'll just ask a real robot instead & cut out the bullshit:

http://www.cleverbot.com/conv/201707231448/WXFMDN4TK1_Can-you-draw-me-a-free-body-diqgram

Well, that wasn't much use...

But it still made more sense than you fuckwits. 

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« Reply #356 on: August 14, 2017, 02:31:27 AM »
Please, can you type 'feel my wrath insignificant humans' next time.

😂

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« Reply #357 on: August 14, 2017, 02:37:42 AM »
Please, can you type 'feel my wrath insignificant humans' next time.

Can you explain why this isn't a free body diagram next time?



No, you can't.

Because you're just a shitposting REtard sockpuppet.
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« Reply #358 on: August 14, 2017, 02:51:05 AM »
Sorry, no I really don't give a shit about whether that's a free body diagram or not.

I'm just here to laugh at your tough guy rants 😂

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« Reply #359 on: August 14, 2017, 02:55:36 AM »
Try understanding why this is not a free body diagram, REtard...

Oh, you can't do that cos you're a scientific illiterate...

So my insults aren't baseless at all are they?

You fucking retard.

Fuck this, you autistic meat calculators are hopeless, I'll just ask a real robot instead & cut out the bullshit:

http://www.cleverbot.com/conv/201707231448/WXFMDN4TK1_Can-you-draw-me-a-free-body-diqgram

Well, that wasn't much use...

But it still made more sense than you fuckwits.
And once again, nothing more than a bunch of baseless insults.

You assert it isn't a free body diagram with no explanation or backing at all.

So yes, your insults are baseless. You are just spouting crap without backing it up or justifying it at all.

Can you explain why this isn't a free body diagram next time?



No, you can't.

Because you're just a shitposting REtard sockpuppet.
Can you? No you can't. If you could you likely would have done so already.
So now you are reduced to pathetic, childish, baseless insults.