Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #270 on: July 24, 2017, 05:48:39 AM »
And on a spherical Earth, since the lift will be equal to the gravity and the gravity will not be able to synchronize it with the earth's rotation, it will fly into space, do to momentum.
What on earth do you mean by
"the gravity will not be able to synchronize it with the earth's rotation, it will fly into space, do to momentum."
That's nothing more than meaningless gobbledegook!

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« Reply #271 on: July 24, 2017, 08:05:26 AM »
And on a spherical Earth, since the lift will be equal to the gravity and the gravity will not be able to synchronize it with the earth's rotation, it will fly into space, do to momentum.
What on earth do you mean by
"the gravity will not be able to synchronize it with the earth's rotation, it will fly into space, do to momentum."
That's nothing more than meaningless gobbledegook!

Yep - he strings a lot of bollocks together in the hope of getting a bite. I'm genuinely surprised his woeful OP has developed into this.

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« Reply #272 on: July 24, 2017, 08:30:53 AM »
OK, in order for you to say that the earth's atmosphere will rotate with the Earth's spin, you must provide a mathematical model that will show this, with numbers.

I can easily say that it is not the air pressure in motion that keeps the airplane on a circular path, but the tooth fairy.

Would you be OK with you?

That the only reason the airplane remains on a circular orbit is the tooth-fairy?

One fairy-tail deserves an other

if you can show me THE mathematical model of the earth spin which will cause the earth's atmosphere to rotate with the earth at the height of the atmosphere, with actual numbers, I will say that you are right and I am wrong.
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« Reply #273 on: July 24, 2017, 08:39:18 AM »
I ask in the other thread you ran away from, do you own a blender?
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« Reply #274 on: July 24, 2017, 08:55:04 AM »
I ask in the other thread you ran away from, do you own a blender?

NO, I don't own a blender. I like to eat my food as a solid not a liquid!
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« Reply #275 on: July 24, 2017, 09:17:18 AM »
So you agree a rotating solid in a fluid will move the fluid?
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« Reply #276 on: July 24, 2017, 09:56:46 AM »
OK, in order for you to say that the earth's atmosphere will rotate with the Earth's spin, you must provide a mathematical model that will show this, with numbers.

I can easily say that it is not the air pressure in motion that keeps the airplane on a circular path, but the tooth fairy.

Would you be OK with you?

That the only reason the airplane remains on a circular orbit is the tooth-fairy?

One fairy-tail deserves an other

if you can show me THE mathematical model of the earth spin which will cause the earth's atmosphere to rotate with the earth at the height of the atmosphere, with actual numbers, I will say that you are right and I am wrong.
But we've talked about this.  You can demonstrate it yourself by throwing a ball on an airplane, or in a car for that matter.

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #277 on: July 24, 2017, 09:57:18 AM »
So you agree a rotating solid in a fluid will move the fluid?

Supposedly you have a rotatory sphere that dissipates heat to its environment which based on Convection Heat Transfer, will create a thermal and velocity boundary layer that will hug it for a certain amount of height.

This is pure Convection Heat Transfer, so if you want to talk about the atmosphere and the earth being stuck together, I have NO problem with believing it, if you show me the numerical calculations, based on Convection Heat Transfer.

The boundary layer may be 600 km high or it may be 100 meter high, but until I see the math, it is all speculations and everything has to be proven.

Do you actually think I like going against everything I learned is college?

It was the hardest thing that I ever did, but the math just don't work out and add the fake videos of NASA, for political reasons, no person will be willing to accept what you are saying as being true.

Let me put it this way, if the woman you want to marry cheated on you with your worst enemy, could you forgive her? If you were to forgive her, would you trust her again?
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #279 on: July 24, 2017, 10:16:55 AM »
Just because the airplane gyros are capable of working, if that is the case, in a spherical earth, does not mean that they are actual working on a spherical earth.
If the earth was flat, then attitude indicators wouldn't need to self-correct, would they?
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« Reply #280 on: July 24, 2017, 10:23:31 AM »
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No, the earth does not move under a hovering helicopter because no helicopter hovers with respect to the stars.  And there is no magical device that will cancel the helicopter's momentum.

And their is no magical device that can create the FBD with the forces that keep the airplane in sync with the supposed earth movement.

If the Earth moves show me the FBD!!!
You don't need a FBD for a fly as it flies around the inside of your car at 65 mph. 

The fly doesn't take off from the headrest and immediately smash into the rear window.

My daughter tossing the ball up in the air while in the back seat doesn't get hit in the face with the ball.

The is because the fly and ball are moving within the inertial frame of reference of the cabin of my car.

It's the exact same thing for a helicopter or an airplane on the inertial frame of the surface of the earth.

Of course, if you time it right in my brother-in-laws Dodge HellCat you might be able to get that fly to smash into the rear window. :D

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #281 on: July 24, 2017, 10:23:48 AM »
Maths

http://biocycle.atmos.colostate.edu/shiny/2layer/

http://www.biocab.org/Heat_Transfer.html

It's not speculation, it's proven.

This is a start, but the math is for a stationary ground.

First of all, it is not in spherical coordinate system

Second it talks about a flat plane.

Third their is not spinning sphere that rotates around it axes.

Fourth it does not talk about the earth heat loss from the inner core to the enviorment.

The scale is local and not on a global size.

Where is the Reynolds number to see if the flow will be laminar or turbulent, and the inflexion point from laminar to turbulent

Where is the Nusselt number ( convective/conductive )

Where is the thermal boundary layer?

Where is the velocity boundary layer?

This is something that you just found on the internet to throw dust in the eyes of people that have never taken 600 level heat transfer.

This is not a mathematical model that you need to provide to prove your point.

Just say that such model does not exists, but I will have somebody from my society make one for you.

Stop with bullshit citations, you are just discrediting your self even more.
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #282 on: July 24, 2017, 10:27:06 AM »
Just because the airplane gyros are capable of working, if that is the case, in a spherical earth, does not mean that they are actual working on a spherical earth.
If the earth was flat, then attitude indicators wouldn't need to self-correct, would they?

When you have 300 lives in an airplane and are faced with possible 300 million dollars in lawsuit for negligence do to poorly constructed machinery, you will not have automatic corrections to minimize the possibility of an accident?
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #283 on: July 24, 2017, 10:30:38 AM »
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No, the earth does not move under a hovering helicopter because no helicopter hovers with respect to the stars.  And there is no magical device that will cancel the helicopter's momentum.

And their is no magical device that can create the FBD with the forces that keep the airplane in sync with the supposed earth movement.

If the Earth moves show me the FBD!!!
You don't need a FBD for a fly as it flies around the inside of your car at 65 mph. 

The fly doesn't take off from the headrest and immediately smash into the rear window.

My daughter tossing the ball up in the air while in the back seat doesn't get hit in the face with the ball.

The is because the fly and ball are moving within the inertial frame of reference of the cabin of my car.

It's the exact same thing for a helicopter or an airplane on the inertial frame of the surface of the earth.

Of course, if you time it right in my brother-in-laws Dodge HellCat you might be able to get that fly to smash into the rear window. :D

Mike

If your windows were open in the car, while you were driving would the fly still be in the car. When you see a bee in your car while you are driving, what do you do, open up the windows.

In a spherical earth, the atmosphere is open to space, like the window. In a flat earth, their is a dome to keep the air pressure.
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

My experiences with science led me to God.

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #284 on: July 24, 2017, 11:03:15 AM »
Just because the airplane gyros are capable of working, if that is the case, in a spherical earth, does not mean that they are actual working on a spherical earth.
If the earth was flat, then attitude indicators wouldn't need to self-correct, would they?

When you have 300 lives in an airplane and are faced with possible 300 million dollars in lawsuit for negligence do to poorly constructed machinery, you will not have automatic corrections to minimize the possibility of an accident?
If you have 300 lives in an airplane, you had better make sure that your navigation system knows the correct shape of the earth.
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #285 on: July 24, 2017, 11:08:18 AM »
Just because the airplane gyros are capable of working, if that is the case, in a spherical earth, does not mean that they are actual working on a spherical earth.
If the earth was flat, then attitude indicators wouldn't need to self-correct, would they?

When you have 300 lives in an airplane and are faced with possible 300 million dollars in lawsuit for negligence do to poorly constructed machinery, you will not have automatic corrections to minimize the possibility of an accident?
If you have 300 lives in an airplane, you had better make sure that your navigation system knows the correct shape of the earth.

And you would not trust a system that was forced to auto-correct its self every minute, in order for the airplane not to crash.

In the old day, when flying was new, it must have been very hard for the pilot to dip the airplane every 2 minutes to keep it level on a spherical earth. A trip of 10 hours would require 300 dips and no time for the pilot to get a coffee and talk to the passengers.
But in the airlines commercials they had the pilot talking to the passengers. Kinda makes you want to think about everything
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #286 on: July 24, 2017, 11:18:03 AM »
Just because the airplane gyros are capable of working, if that is the case, in a spherical earth, does not mean that they are actual working on a spherical earth.
If the earth was flat, then attitude indicators wouldn't need to self-correct, would they?

When you have 300 lives in an airplane and are faced with possible 300 million dollars in lawsuit for negligence do to poorly constructed machinery, you will not have automatic corrections to minimize the possibility of an accident?
If you have 300 lives in an airplane, you had better make sure that your navigation system knows the correct shape of the earth.

And you would not trust a system that was forced to auto-correct its self every minute, in order for the airplane not to crash.

In the old day, when flying was new, it must have been very hard for the pilot to dip the airplane every 2 minutes to keep it level on a spherical earth. A trip of 10 hours would require 300 dips and no time for the pilot to get a coffee and talk to the passengers.
But in the airlines commercials they had the pilot talking to the passengers. Kinda makes you want to think about everything
It must also have been rather disconcerting to find out that lines of longitude are diverging as you fly south in the southern hemisphere when your "official" map says that they should be converging.
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« Reply #287 on: July 24, 2017, 11:22:30 AM »
Just because the airplane gyros are capable of working, if that is the case, in a spherical earth, does not mean that they are actual working on a spherical earth.
If the earth was flat, then attitude indicators wouldn't need to self-correct, would they?

When you have 300 lives in an airplane and are faced with possible 300 million dollars in lawsuit for negligence do to poorly constructed machinery, you will not have automatic corrections to minimize the possibility of an accident?
If you have 300 lives in an airplane, you had better make sure that your navigation system knows the correct shape of the earth.

And you would not trust a system that was forced to auto-correct its self every minute, in order for the airplane not to crash.

In the old day, when flying was new, it must have been very hard for the pilot to dip the airplane every 2 minutes to keep it level on a spherical earth. A trip of 10 hours would require 300 dips and no time for the pilot to get a coffee and talk to the passengers.
But in the airlines commercials they had the pilot talking to the passengers. Kinda makes you want to think about everything
Simply maintain a constant altitude, no dipping.

As you maintain the earth is flat how do you intend to prove this and disprove any round earth measurements?

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #288 on: July 24, 2017, 11:22:40 AM »
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No, the earth does not move under a hovering helicopter because no helicopter hovers with respect to the stars.  And there is no magical device that will cancel the helicopter's momentum.

And their is no magical device that can create the FBD with the forces that keep the airplane in sync with the supposed earth movement.

If the Earth moves show me the FBD!!!
You don't need a FBD for a fly as it flies around the inside of your car at 65 mph. 

The fly doesn't take off from the headrest and immediately smash into the rear window.

My daughter tossing the ball up in the air while in the back seat doesn't get hit in the face with the ball.

The is because the fly and ball are moving within the inertial frame of reference of the cabin of my car.

It's the exact same thing for a helicopter or an airplane on the inertial frame of the surface of the earth.

Of course, if you time it right in my brother-in-laws Dodge HellCat you might be able to get that fly to smash into the rear window. :D

Mike

If your windows were open in the car, while you were driving would the fly still be in the car. When you see a bee in your car while you are driving, what do you do, open up the windows.

In a spherical earth, the atmosphere is open to space, like the window. In a flat earth, their is a dome to keep the air pressure.
The atmosphere works like the inside of the car with the windows up.  The atmosphere moved right along with the globe.

You can spin a globe in a barrel of water and the water at the boundary layer will wind up keeping up with the surface of the globe.  The shear stress at the globe - boundary layer interface will be essentially zero.

It's actually called a planetary boundary layer.  You can numerically model it if you have the right software.

Mike
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #289 on: July 24, 2017, 11:38:57 AM »
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The atmosphere works like the inside of the car with the windows up.  The atmosphere moved right along with the globe.

Really, that stop's the air from leaving and going into orbit? Np dome to hold it under pressure


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You can spin a globe in a barrel of water and the water at the boundary layer will wind up keeping up with the surface of the globe.  The shear stress at the globe - boundary layer interface will be essentially zero.

Stop speculating, provide Convection Heat transfer Model of Earth....

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It's actually called a planetary boundary layer.  You can numerically model it if you have the right software.

Provide documentation and algorithm!
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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #290 on: July 24, 2017, 11:46:55 AM »
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No, the earth does not move under a hovering helicopter because no helicopter hovers with respect to the stars.  And there is no magical device that will cancel the helicopter's momentum.

And their is no magical device that can create the FBD with the forces that keep the airplane in sync with the supposed earth movement.

If the Earth moves show me the FBD!!!
You don't need a FBD for a fly as it flies around the inside of your car at 65 mph. 

The fly doesn't take off from the headrest and immediately smash into the rear window.

My daughter tossing the ball up in the air while in the back seat doesn't get hit in the face with the ball.

The is because the fly and ball are moving within the inertial frame of reference of the cabin of my car.

It's the exact same thing for a helicopter or an airplane on the inertial frame of the surface of the earth.

Of course, if you time it right in my brother-in-laws Dodge HellCat you might be able to get that fly to smash into the rear window. :D

Mike

If your windows were open in the car, while you were driving would the fly still be in the car. When you see a bee in your car while you are driving, what do you do, open up the windows.

In a spherical earth, the atmosphere is open to space, like the window. In a flat earth, their is a dome to keep the air pressure.
If there were a done to keep the pressure in the pressure would equalize inside it.  It does not, ergo, no dome.

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« Reply #291 on: July 24, 2017, 11:53:51 AM »
But the bible also talks about the four angles that hold the 4 winds. This was BC time and the japans discovered the jet streams during WWII and their are 4 of them.

So fresh air could come inside the dome.
To simply dismiss the concept of God as being unscientific is to violate the very objectivity of science itself.

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #292 on: July 24, 2017, 11:57:22 AM »
But the bible also talks about the four angles that hold the 4 winds. This was BC time and the japans discovered the jet streams during WWII and their are 4 of them.

So fresh air could come inside the dome.
Come in from where?  Still doesn't address the fact the pressure would be equalized if there was a dome.  It is not.

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« Reply #293 on: July 24, 2017, 12:19:28 PM »
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The atmosphere works like the inside of the car with the windows up.  The atmosphere moved right along with the globe.

Really, that stop's the air from leaving and going into orbit? Np dome to hold it under pressure


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You can spin a globe in a barrel of water and the water at the boundary layer will wind up keeping up with the surface of the globe.  The shear stress at the globe - boundary layer interface will be essentially zero.

Stop speculating, provide Convection Heat transfer Model of Earth....

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It's actually called a planetary boundary layer.  You can numerically model it if you have the right software.

Provide documentation and algorithm!
It's standard fluid dynamics so there's no speculation here. 

"Provide documentation and algorithm!"  You're kidding right?  Why the hell should I spend my time finding answers for you just because your to lazy to look it up.  It's all in a first year fluids class.  You can find it in any fluid dynamics or geophysics text...Google it your own danged self.

All of MIT's classes are online for free.  Maybe you should take their fluids mechanics class so you can keep up.

https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/aeronautics-and-astronautics/16-01-unified-engineering-i-ii-iii-iv-fall-2005-spring-2006/fluid-mechanics/

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« Reply #294 on: July 24, 2017, 01:17:22 PM »
Again, not making any sense... You were talking about a ball in a plane, that would get back to your hand as long as the plane stayed on its course. The same applies for Earth. Of course if the plane moves abruptly, the ball will not get back in your hand, and then the comparison with Earth ends because it does not move abruptly.

Also, this 3D video of the solar system sporting a vortex has been flagged as wrong many times.

The planets do not drag behind the sun. They sometimes pass in front of it (relatively to its own motion around the center of the galaxy). That is because the solar system (direction of the ecliptic) makes an angle with the direction of the Sun. So planets are sometimes in front of the Sun, sometimes behind.

If all you want to remember is that planets in orbit make fancy helicoids when their star moves, then yes that is true.

But in reality it looks more like this :
http://i.imgur.com/rLr8Swh.mp4

Join the planets with a line to draw the ecliptic, you can see the angle I was talking about.
Hey, finally a RE-tard that claims to have the CGI of the Solar System in motion through the Universe!!!

Do you have the math that was utilized to render this CGI and can you verify it is legitimate, sourcing Keplar, et.al.?
No.
FTFY.

Thank you for admitting this diagram you published is just a bunch of fluff without basis.

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« Reply #295 on: July 24, 2017, 01:34:41 PM »
Hey! 2 can play this game!

Draw me a flat earth map that works and goes in line with wath is known of the world...What? There's none? Then shape of the Earth  is not flat.

There you go.

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #296 on: July 24, 2017, 02:57:01 PM »
A trip of 10 hours would require 300 dips

What year was this? What plane was this? How fast was this plane travelling to require 300 dips? What angle was the plane set for this dip and how long was the dip held for?

Or are you talking utter bollocks again?

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« Reply #297 on: July 24, 2017, 03:14:36 PM »
OK, in order for you to say that the earth's atmosphere will rotate with the Earth's spin, you must provide a mathematical model that will show this, with numbers.
No we don't.

We know that if you have an object moving relative to air, it will create a drag force which acts to bring them both to the same velocity.

Thus we know if you magically made it so Earth was rotating and the atmosphere wasn't a drag force would exist which would act to slow Earth and speed up the atmopshere, resulting in the atmosphere spinning with Earth.

I can easily say that it is not the air pressure in motion that keeps the airplane on a circular path, but the tooth fairy.
Would you be OK with you?
No, because that would be appealing to pure fiction.
Are you suggesting drag is fiction? That it is akin to the tooth fairy?

Supposedly you have a rotatory sphere that dissipates heat to its environment which based on Convection Heat Transfer, will create a thermal and velocity boundary layer that will hug it for a certain amount of height.
HOW MANY TIMES MUST THIS BE POINTED OUT TO BE PURE BULLSHIT!!!!

This applies to small objects surrounded by loads of air, where the heat is being exchanged with the air.

This does not apply to large objects surrounded by a thin layer of air.

The Earth radiates heat away.

This is pure Convection Heat Transfer, so if you want to talk about the atmosphere and the earth being stuck together, I have NO problem with believing it, if you show me the numerical calculations, based on Convection Heat Transfer.
Since you want to keep bringing this BS up, how about you do the calculating, explaining all the steps.

It was the hardest thing that I ever did, but the math just don't work out and add the fake videos of NASA, for political reasons, no person will be willing to accept what you are saying as being true.
Then why don't you show the math that just doesn't work? You completely failed at showing that NASA's video was fake.

Perhaps if you stopped spouting pure bullshit people would start accepting what you are saying is true?
Perhaps if you could back up your insane claims and not dismiss people pointing out the flaws in them people would start accepting what you are saying is true?


If your windows were open in the car, while you were driving would the fly still be in the car. When you see a bee in your car while you are driving, what do you do, open up the windows.

In a spherical earth, the atmosphere is open to space, like the window. In a flat earth, their is a dome to keep the air pressure.
No, it is nothing like that.
With the window, you have a barrier stopping the air outside effecting the inside of the car.
With Earth, there is no barrier and there is no air outside.
The pressure just drops as you get further away.

And you would not trust a system that was forced to auto-correct its self every minute, in order for the airplane not to crash.
Again, it isn't needed to prevent the air-plane crashing.

In the old day, when flying was new, it must have been very hard for the pilot to dip the airplane every 2 minutes to keep it level on a spherical earth. A trip of 10 hours would require 300 dips and no time for the pilot to get a coffee and talk to the passengers.
But in the airlines commercials they had the pilot talking to the passengers. Kinda makes you want to think about everything
Why every 2 minutes?
The process would be continuous. They don't focus on keeping the plane following the curve. They focus on maintaining the same altitude, typically trimming the aircraft to do so (at least in the earlier days). So no, they wouldn't need to keep focusing on dipping the plane down.

Sure, commercials have that, how often do you see it on a real plane (also remember there is often a co-pilot, so the pilot and co-pilot don't need to be there all the time).

How safe would you feel if there was just one pilot and they decided to go get coffee and talk to passengers?

Really, that stop's the air from leaving and going into orbit? Np dome to hold it under pressure
I already explained and showed how gravity does.

Gravity causes the air pressure.

But the bible also talks about the four angles that hold the 4 winds. This was BC time and the japans discovered the jet streams during WWII and their are 4 of them.
Which doesn't address the point at all.
The 4 winds are likely referring to the 4 cardinal directions, N, S, E and W.
There are more than 4 jet streams.


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JackBlack

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #298 on: July 24, 2017, 03:16:30 PM »
Again, you are the one who is claiming to have disproven spherical Earth once and for all!!!!

As such, the burden of proof is on you.

You don't get to bitch and moan that no one is providing you with a model.
Them not providing one doesn't mean the spherical Earth is disproven.

If you want to disprove it, YOU MAKE THE MODEL and then you can show if it matches reality or not.

So stop bitching and moaning and start doing your own work rather than expecting us to do it for you.

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rabinoz

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Re: Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!
« Reply #299 on: July 24, 2017, 04:06:54 PM »
OK, in order for you to say that the earth's atmosphere will rotate with the Earth's spin, you must provide a mathematical model that will show this, with numbers.
We don't have to show you anything of the sort!

You are the one challenging the status quo, the long accepted situation, so the onus is on you not us to prove your case.

Quote from: InFlatEarth
I can easily say that it is not the air pressure in motion that keeps the airplane on a circular path, but the tooth fairy.

Would you be OK with you?

That the only reason the airplane remains on a circular orbit is the tooth-fairy?
Believe what fairy tales you like, that's your right.

Quote from: InFlatEarth
One fairy-tail deserves an other

if you can show me THE mathematical model of the earth spin which will cause the earth's atmosphere to rotate with the earth at the height of the atmosphere, with actual numbers, I will say that you are right and I am wrong.

I am afraid that the topic is a little deep for me, but I'm sure someone of your intellect will follow these papers with no trouble!
Earth Rotation and Coupling to Changes in Atmospheric Angular Momentum Principal Investigator: RICHARD D. ROSEN

The Earth’s rotation and atmospheric circulation: 1958 -1980, Kurt Lambeck and Peter Hopgood

But, just face it Mr InFlatEarth, some things do not have a simple mathematical model.
For example you have totally ignored all requests for such equations for your flat earth.

A much simpler treatment for the earth's atmosphere is in: Quora, Does the atmosphere of the earth rotate with the earth itself around its axis?

But just remember,
you are the one challenging the status quo, so the onus is on you not us to prove your case.