Spherical Earth disproved for once and for all!!!

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Wrong, I never gave the rotational speed of the motor, so I don't need to scale up anything.

So your calculations were based on a station earth!!!!!

No, they were based upon a rotating Earth, where the effect of the rotation on the air would result in simple linear scaling.

Now how about you address the real issue:
Earth - All by itself with just a small layer of atmosphere.
Motor Shaft - In a room, near a motor housing with loads of air and friction.

Can you accept the model you are using is nothing like Earth?

To prove your point that the earth's atmosphere moves with the spinning earth, please provide citation of the Convention Heat Transfer Model of a spinning sphere when it radiates to the environment, just like earth does, where it shows the thermal and velocity boundary layers.

No, it is simple friction. If it didn't, there would be large amounts of friction which would then drag the atmosphere along with Earth.

If you wish to disagree, go and provide a citation disproving friction.

Are you saying that Convection Heat Transfer is bogus?

No, it doesn't apply to Earth.

Does not the Earth in the heliocentric model radiate to open space?

Yes, RADIATE, i.e. it radiates energy in the form of EM radiation.
It doesn't use convection.

Friction, you say, but friction is a force and since it is a force then it could be placed on a Free Body Diagram.

And it already is. It is called DRAG!

So please draw the Free Body Diagram of an airplane landing and label all the forces that it encounters especially the force that keeps it in sync with the supposed earth rotation,

You have already been provided with one.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 02:58:41 AM

Thank you for taking the time to write this very good explanation, but your explanation deals with crosswinds, which would be also true on a Flat Earth.

The crosswind demonstrates two things:  that the force you are looking for is drag from the air mass, and that even on an airless surface the plane (spacecraft, I guess...) would only need 12 degrees to compensate for the spinning planet beneath.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 02:58:41 AM

As an airline captain that has over 13,000 hour of flying hours, let me ask you this simple question. Every how many minutes do you dip your airplane down to be in sync with the supposed Earth Curvature?

What routes do you fly, just in the USA or do you do transatlantic flights also.

I won't lie, from a FE standpoint that's an excellent question.  But just to understand, for what purpose do you suppose I need to dip down?

Are you referring to allowing the spinning winds to catch me up to speed or to keep pushing the nose over lest I fly off the planet?  If it's the former, then never because because the winds at altitude, while blowing, also have an orbital velocity of their own.  It is common to find winds out of the west exceeding 150 knots in the winter.  Any jet can easily compensate.  Wind corrections might be 20-30 degrees.  No problem.

If the latter, then also never.  The force of gravity is perpendicular to the surface of the earth.  It always acts straight down.  Lift on an airplane acts exactly opposite gravity, its vector is always straight up.  As the surface of the earth curves, the force of gravity would be at an angle between two different points on the globe, as seen from an outside reference such as space.  We don't care, because we are inside the reference, and can also never be at two places at once.  So from our reference, gravity is always down, towards the center of the earth.  As we travel across the surface, the airplane is maintaining a constant pressure altitude.  As the atmosphere curves with the earth, so must the airplane's flight path over the horizon due to both the changing angle of gravity (as seen only from an outside reference) and the curve of the atmosphere.

A quick insight on the atmosphere and how an airplane maintains altitude:  The pressure of the atmosphere decreases as we increase in altitude.  This has been proven time and again by carrying a barometer up a mountain.  Airplanes maintain altitude by holding a constant air pressure (called "pressure altitude).  The actual height above ground will vary slightly as the air mass changes; pressure increases will cause the airplane to climb a bit to maintain the desired pressure.


I've flown all over North America, and am currently in Japan.

Thank you for informing us that you never dip your airplane to be constant with the supposed Earth Curvature.

As you flight straight if the earth was curved below you, then the distance between you and the ground would increase.

Gravity decrease the higher up you go, so the gravitational force that binds you to the earth would become weaker and weaker the more you travel.

Since the “supposed” earth’s gravity is much stronger than any air pressure, the air pressure would not prohibit you from leaving the earth and fly into space, unless the earth is actual flat.

Would you be able to construct a Free Body Diagram of the airplane when it is flying on a straight line and place all forces on it? Especially the ones that make it curve with the earth.

Remember that Pressure in a uniform all over the airplane. The pressure that the airplane feels in its noise will be the same as in its tail.

The air pressure that the airplane will feel at the top and bottom are going to be the same. And as higher up you go the air gets thinner and thinner, and thus the air pressure would be less and less.


Now it has become even more critical that the heliocentric believer provide a Convection Heat Transfer Model of a rotating sphere that radiates to its environment with the thermal and velocity boundary layers to prove that the earth’s atmosphere moves with the earth.

I will check again tomorrow.

You might want to see this video

I'd count that as successful trolling inFlatEarth. I thought your OP was a waste of typing with the obvious factual flaws, but you've managed to elicit considered replies - and even a dignified response from an airline captain. 9/10.

As you flight straight if the earth was curved below you, then the distance between you and the ground would increase.

If this was true most planes would never be able to land.
If you notice, the land nose up. So while pointing up, they descend.

Go learn how planes fly. Maybe draw a few hundred FBD until you can understand.

Let the man answer the question.

Stop trying to confuse him.

maybe he will come up with something that will help you and shut me up.

Give him a chance, but 

You have to make a Convection Heat Transfer Model of a spinning Earth and show the Thermal and Velocity boundary layers of the atmosphere.

You have to make a Convection Heat Transfer Model of a spinning Earth and show the Thermal and Velocity boundary layers of the atmosphere.

Why is that required?

Let the man answer the question.

Stop trying to confuse him.

maybe he will come up with something that will help you and shut me up.

Give him a chance, but 

You have to make a Convection Heat Transfer Model of a spinning Earth and show the Thermal and Velocity boundary layers of the atmosphere.

I'm pretty sure the only thing that will shut you up is a lobotomy (if there is any brain left to remove) or a banning.

I already pointed out why your convection BS is bullshit, stop bring it up and focus on what has been said.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 04:54:27 AM

You have to make a Convection Heat Transfer Model of a spinning Earth and show the Thermal and Velocity boundary layers of the atmosphere.

Why is that required?

If you don't understand why it is required, then don't participate in the thread, it is too advanced for you.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 04:54:27 AM

Let the man answer the question.

Stop trying to confuse him.

maybe he will come up with something that will help you and shut me up.

Give him a chance, but 

You have to make a Convection Heat Transfer Model of a spinning Earth and show the Thermal and Velocity boundary layers of the atmosphere.

I'm pretty sure the only thing that will shut you up is a lobotomy (if there is any brain left to remove) or a banning.

I already pointed out why your convection BS is bullshit, stop bring it up and focus on what has been said.

Or you schooling like the video below

Thank you for informing us that you never dip your airplane to be constant with the supposed Earth Curvature.

I did no such thing.  We don't fly "straight" as in your frame of reference.  The aircraft naturally follows the curve of the earth by maintaining a constant pressure altitude.  The pressure level is following the curve of the earth.  I informed you that no "dip" is necessary because it is both exceptionally gradual and already maintained by the autopilot keeping a constant pressure altitude.

Your supposition that I am flying a perfectly straight line tangential to the curve of the Earth is flawed for a number of reasons.  The lift generated by a wing depends entirely on air pressure.  With no pressure, no lift.  Aircraft cannot continue to climb out of the atmosphere because the air will become too thin to generate lift.  Likewise, the engines need air pressure.  No air, no combustion, no thrust.  This is why all aircraft have a maximum altitude.  (I have seen posted elsewhere the erroneous figure of less than 40,000.  This is not true, most aircraft are capable of flying in the range of 40-45,000 feet.  Not a significant difference, but facts are important.)

The only instrument we have telling us our altitude measures air pressure.  The rate at which atmospheric pressure decreases is a well known constant.  Airplanes maintain a constant air pressure, meaning that the altitude in feet can actually vary a bit.  But since we are all using the same standard, the variation is irrelevant.  Want to be at about 18,000 feet?  Maintain a pressure of 500mb.  35,000 ft?  Maintain 250mb.  This level, 250 millibars for example, will curve around the Earth, and so will the plane.

You have agreed that air pressure decreases with altitude.  Therefore, in order to maintain a constant pressure altitude, the aircraft would have to curve with the Earth.  You are mistaken in thinking there is a "dip" that the pilots have to perform.  As has been pointed out mathematically a few posts up (thanks, Rabinoz), the angle of "dip" is exceedingly small, and since the autopilot maintains a constant pressure altitude, no further adjustment is required.

Gravity decreases as we go up?  Okay, true enough, but by how much?  Is the ISS in a null gravity environment?  Or is zero gravity a localized relative sensation because the ISS is free falling towards the Earth at exactly the same speed it is moving around it?  (Hint:  it's the latter.  If the ISS were to cease its orbital velocity it would plummet to the Earth.)  An airplane at any altitude is under the force of gravity.  The ISS is under the force of gravity.  The Moon is under the force of gravity.  At what point will the gravitational field of the Earth be zero?  Only when the gravitational influence of the Sun overpowers it.  There is no way any airplane can fly high enough to feel any significant change in gravity.  Measurable, yes, but not significant.

I will happily provide a diagram as soon as I can figure out how to insert one into the message.  I had drawn up some better diagrams for my first post, but I think they have to be on a server somewhere, so I pilfered the one from somewhere.  So please show me how to include a non-internet based diagram in my posts.

I'd count that as successful trolling inFlatEarth. I thought your OP was a waste of typing with the obvious factual flaws, but you've managed to elicit considered replies - and even a dignified response from an airline captain. 9/10.

I probably have better things to do with my time, but this is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.  I just can't look away.  Having said that, FE theory does have some interesting observations and questions, and I think they deserve a dignified factual response.  I can easily understand why "my personal and physical observations say differently to what I'm taught" and if I can add to their education, I will.  Tread on my turf, and I'm going to respond.

I understand, however, that you all have been doing this for a long time.  Give me a few weeks, I'll be spitting venom like a rabid puff adder.

inFlatEarth - God has answered your prayers and given you an experienced pilot with clear answers to your questions. If you don't agree with any of the answers, explain exactly why that is (feel free to use an diagrams you think may help get your point across). If you ask for an FBD or any other irrelevant model again, you may as well hang a neon flashing sign above your head saying "I've lost".

I asked the question: "Every how many minutes do you dip your airplane down to be in sync with the supposed Earth Curvature?"

And you answered :  "then never because because the winds at altitude, while blowing, also have an orbital velocity of their own."

Very clearly you said that you never dip the airplane.

As you clearly stated the altimeter is pressure driven, that is, the outside pressure tells you at what altitude you are flying. This would be true for a Flat Earth and a Spherical Earth.

The altimeter does not control the dipping automatically; the pilot manually controls the level of the flight.

BUT the instruments that keep you level while your flying is the gyroscope, which is nothing more than a disk that spins at very high speeds.

In the airplanes they pass compress air to have the disk spin all the times and this technology is from the early 50’s

So since you have told us that you don’t dip the airplane and since in order for you to land your gyroscope has to be level, how does it always become perpendicular to the ground on a spherical Earth model?

What forces make it to always be sync to the ground, which will not violate basic physics…

Maybe you have been lied too…

Please rethink all of the evidence very carefully again…

inFlatEarth - God has answered your prayers and given you an experienced pilot with clear answers to your questions. If you don't agree with any of the answers, explain exactly why that is (feel free to use an diagrams you think may help get your point across). If you ask for an FBD or any other irrelevant model again, you may as well hang a neon flashing sign above your head saying "I've lost".

Yes, God has answered my prayers and he has given me a pilot with 13,000 hr of flight that he stated that he does not dip the plane to keep level with the Earth and proving that the Earth has no curvature.

Now, you have to explain why the gyroscopes in the airplane are always leveled...

Quote from: kennykirklan on July 23, 2017, 05:52:04 AM

inFlatEarth - God has answered your prayers and given you an experienced pilot with clear answers to your questions. If you don't agree with any of the answers, explain exactly why that is (feel free to use an diagrams you think may help get your point across). If you ask for an FBD or any other irrelevant model again, you may as well hang a neon flashing sign above your head saying "I've lost".

Yes, God has answered my prayers and he has given me a pilot with 13,000 hr of flight that he stated that he does not dip the plane to keep level with the Earth and proving that the Earth has no curvature.

Now, you have to explain why the gyroscopes in the airplane are always leveled...

Assuming you mean the attitude indicator gyro - this an earth gyro held in place to the earths gravity - level being perpendicular with the centre of the planet directly beneath.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 05:59:22 AM

Quote from: kennykirklan on July 23, 2017, 05:52:04 AM

inFlatEarth - God has answered your prayers and given you an experienced pilot with clear answers to your questions. If you don't agree with any of the answers, explain exactly why that is (feel free to use an diagrams you think may help get your point across). If you ask for an FBD or any other irrelevant model again, you may as well hang a neon flashing sign above your head saying "I've lost".

Yes, God has answered my prayers and he has given me a pilot with 13,000 hr of flight that he stated that he does not dip the plane to keep level with the Earth and proving that the Earth has no curvature.

Now, you have to explain why the gyroscopes in the airplane are always leveled...

Because they level perpendicular with the ground directly beneath.

wrong, look at a sphere, every point on it, the next one is on an angle.

Take a ball and place a toy airplane on top of the ball. The airplane (gyroscope) will always be level to the ground that you are standing. The wings of the plane have to be parallel to  the ground. Know try to go to the side of the ball while having the wings of the airplane parallel to the ground.

You really are blind to anything apart from your own thoughts.

Did you read the part where the pilot took great trouble to explain clearly why the concept of an aircraft"dipping" to follow earth's curvature is such a straw man argument.

No.
Because it did not fit your false reality.
Planes fly at altitudes ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
That's it.
The level below them is a globe.
Do if a plane were to fly in a direct straight tangent it would be climbing to a higher altitude.
More power required to maintain climb.
Following the curve IS level flight.

You really are blind to anything apart from your own thoughts.

Did you read the part where the pilot took great trouble to explain clearly why the concept of an aircraft"dipping" to follow earth's curvature is such a straw man argument.

No.
Because it did not fit your false reality.
Planes fly at altitudes ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
That's it.
The level below them is a globe.
Do if a plane were to fly in a direct straight tangent it would be climbing to a higher altitude.
More power required to maintain climb.
Following the curve IS level flight.

So the physics of a gyroscope is wrong!!!

The planes fly on a flat earth.

The altimeter only reads the altitude of the plane, it is like an odometer, it reads the miles that you have traveled. it does not control  the way you drive, stop, go, turn, park...

I asked the question: "Every how many minutes do you dip your airplane down to be in sync with the supposed Earth Curvature?"

And you answered :  "then never because because the winds at altitude, while blowing, also have an orbital velocity of their own."

Very clearly you said that you never dip the airplane.

As you clearly stated the altimeter is pressure driven, that is, the outside pressure tells you at what altitude you are flying. This would be true for a Flat Earth and a Spherical Earth.

The altimeter does not control the dipping automatically; the pilot manually controls the level of the flight.

BUT the instruments that keep you level while your flying is the gyroscope, which is nothing more than a disk that spins at very high speeds.

In the airplanes they pass compress air to have the disk spin all the times and this technology is from the early 50’s

So since you have told us that you don’t dip the airplane and since in order for you to land your gyroscope has to be level, how does it always become perpendicular to the ground on a spherical Earth model?

What forces make it to always be sync to the ground, which will not violate basic physics…

Maybe you have been lied too…

Please rethink all of the evidence very carefully again…

Here we go...

You are envisioning a world where pilots have to push the nose over to maintain altitude above a constantly dipping Earth.  If I were flying above a basketball, then yes that would be the case.  I am flying a plane a few hundred feet long above a curve that is 40,0745 km in circumference.  I don't have to "dip" the airplane, because the autopilot maintains a constant altitude following the curve of the earth, the lift acting parallel to gravity keeps the longitudinal axis of the plane perpendicular to the Earth's surface.  The "dipping" takes care of itself and is so exceptionally gradual (Rabinoz calculated 1 degree per 111km I think) that no control input would be required.


  If someone would kindly explain how I can attach a diagram to a forum post, I'll happily whip one up.

Quote from: InFlatEarth on July 23, 2017, 05:56:59 AM

I asked the question: "Every how many minutes do you dip your airplane down to be in sync with the supposed Earth Curvature?"

And you answered :  "then never because because the winds at altitude, while blowing, also have an orbital velocity of their own."

Very clearly you said that you never dip the airplane.

As you clearly stated the altimeter is pressure driven, that is, the outside pressure tells you at what altitude you are flying. This would be true for a Flat Earth and a Spherical Earth.

The altimeter does not control the dipping automatically; the pilot manually controls the level of the flight.

BUT the instruments that keep you level while your flying is the gyroscope, which is nothing more than a disk that spins at very high speeds.

In the airplanes they pass compress air to have the disk spin all the times and this technology is from the early 50’s

So since you have told us that you don’t dip the airplane and since in order for you to land your gyroscope has to be level, how does it always become perpendicular to the ground on a spherical Earth model?

What forces make it to always be sync to the ground, which will not violate basic physics…

Maybe you have been lied too…

Please rethink all of the evidence very carefully again…

Here we go...

You are envisioning a world where pilots have to push the nose over to maintain altitude above a constantly dipping Earth.  If I were flying above a basketball, then yes that would be the case.  I am flying a plane a few hundred feet long above a curve that is 40,0745 km in circumference.  I don't have to "dip" the airplane, because the autopilot maintains a constant altitude following the curve of the earth, the lift acting parallel to gravity keeps the longitudinal axis of the plane perpendicular to the Earth's surface.  The "dipping" takes care of itself and is so exceptionally gradual (Rabinoz calculated 1 degree per 111km I think) that no control input would be required.


  If someone would kindly explain how I can attach a diagram to a forum post, I'll happily whip one up.

Why is your Attitude Indicator (gyroscope)  level at all times if it is flying on a sphere?

Please see the below video and then explain why it is always level



are the Attitude Indicator broken in the new airplanes???

Attitude Indicator
The attitude indicator (also known as an artificial horizon) shows the aircraft's relation to the horizon. From this the pilot can tell whether the wings are level (roll) and if the aircraft nose is pointing above or below the horizon (pitch).

Altimeter
The altimeter shows the aircraft's altitude above sea-level by measuring the difference between the pressure in a stack of aneroid capsules inside the altimeter and the atmospheric pressure obtained through the static system.

Um, no the altimeter is not like an odometer.  It reads one thing and one thing only, the pressure altitude.  It takes the atmospheric pressure in millibars and translates it to an approximate height above sea level.  As the atmosphere curves around the earth, so must the plane, although as I said no "dip" control input is required because lift is parallel and opposite to gravity, and when lift = gravity then the airplane is maintaining both a constant altitude and is perpendicular to the ground.  If lift is greater than gravity, the airplane climbs.  If lift is less than gravity, the airplane descends.  If I were to consciously attempt to fly a tangent to the earth's surface, then yes I would be increasing in altitude.  I would very quickly run out of air pressure required to ensure lift was overcoming gravity, and would cease climbing.

The altimeter does indeed control how we fly.  Airplanes are not perfectly stable:  minute changes in wind and air pressure and even the act of a flight attendant walking from the back of the plane to the front, and thus shifting the center of gravity, will cause an airplane to pitch up and down ever so slightly.  The autopilot will sense the change in pressure and adjust the pitch accordingly to climb or descend.  We are talking a mere few feet.  Whatever insignificant control input might be required to "dip" the airplane is unnoticeable.

Um, no the altimeter is not like an odometer.  It reads one thing and one thing only, the pressure altitude.  It takes the atmospheric pressure in millibars and translates it to an approximate height above sea level.  As the atmosphere curves around the earth, so must the plane, although as I said no "dip" control input is required because lift is parallel and opposite to gravity, and when lift = gravity then the airplane is maintaining both a constant altitude and is perpendicular to the ground.  If lift is greater than gravity, the airplane climbs.  If lift is less than gravity, the airplane descends.  If I were to consciously attempt to fly a tangent to the earth's surface, then yes I would be increasing in altitude.  I would very quickly run out of air pressure required to ensure lift was overcoming gravity, and would cease climbing.

The altimeter does indeed control how we fly.  Airplanes are not perfectly stable:  minute changes in wind and air pressure and even the act of a flight attendant walking from the back of the plane to the front, and thus shifting the center of gravity, will cause an airplane to pitch up and down ever so slightly.  The autopilot will sense the change in pressure and adjust the pitch accordingly to climb or descend.  We are talking a mere few feet.  Whatever insignificant control input might be required to "dip" the airplane is unnoticeable.

What about your gyroscope, the Attitude Indicator ?

The attitude indicator (also known as an artificial horizon) shows the aircraft's relation to the horizon. From this the pilot can tell whether the wings are level (roll) and if the aircraft nose is pointing above or below the horizon (pitch).

Question, would the altimeter readings be the same if the earth was flat and you were flying level?

If I would put you in a flight simulator and I would tell you that some flights will be test run on a flat earth model and some on a spherical earth model, would you be able to tell the difference of which test was which just from the Altimeter?

Be back tomorrow!!!

You all have a nice Sunday and pray to God to enlighten you.

I only have one question to the pilot, which I really want to thank him from the bottom of my heart and wish him that he find true happiness in his life.

What made you want to write in this forum on this topic, because last night and this morning, I prayed to God to help me today and he delivered you to me.

Did you think that it was God, that gave you the intensive to write?

Either way, may God give you and your family, happiness, piece and love!!!

Be back tomorrow!!!

You all have a nice Sunday and pray to God to enlighten you.

I only have one question to the pilot, which I really want to thank him from the bottom of my heart and wish him that he find true happiness in his life.

What made you want to write in this forum on this topic, because last night and this morning, I prayed to God to help me today and he delivered you to me.

Did you think that it was God, that gave you the intensive to write?

Either way, may God give you and your family, happiness, piece and love!!!

You prayed to "god" to get your ass handed to you?


Cool!

Be back tomorrow!!!

You all have a nice Sunday and pray to God to enlighten you.

I only have one question to the pilot, which I really want to thank him from the bottom of my heart and wish him that he find true happiness in his life.

What made you want to write in this forum on this topic, because last night and this morning, I prayed to God to help me today and he delivered you to me.

Did you think that it was God, that gave you the intensive to write?

Either way, may God give you and your family, happiness, piece and love!!!

So you got backed into a corner when you were asked to calculate something you claimed was easy and now you run away.
Pretty funny.

You know, I did not plain to come back today, since it was Sunday, but I was curious if the pilot has an answer about the gyroscope.

But nothing yet...

You know, I did not plain to come back today, since it was Sunday, but I was curious if the pilot has an answer about the gyroscope.

But nothing yet...

You mean the pendulous vanes mechanism which makes the gyro gravitationally bound?

You know, I did not plain to come back today, since it was Sunday, but I was curious if the pilot has an answer about the gyroscope.

But nothing yet...

He's probably quickly realised he'd have more chance getting the message across to a piece of toast.

You know, I did not plain to come back today, since it was Sunday, but I was curious if the pilot has an answer about the gyroscope.

But nothing yet...

I'm still waiting for you to calculate the size and distance of the sun.  Why do you run away when you claimed it was easy?

I probably have better things to do with my time, but this is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.  I just can't look away.  Having said that, FE theory does have some interesting observations and questions, and I think they deserve a dignified factual response.  I can easily understand why "my personal and physical observations say differently to what I'm taught" and if I can add to their education, I will.  Tread on my turf, and I'm going to respond.

I understand, however, that you all have been doing this for a long time.  Give me a few weeks, I'll be spitting venom like a rabid puff adder.

I think a lot of these guys here are mainly jokers - their game is to troll responses and then try and twist, turn and wriggle their way around all of the informative responses. But it's a good game to play out and gets one to think about what they think they know.

Makes me chuckle when they venture into aviation though as its never long before they are battered - especially when the likes of yourself join in.

I'm PPL (SEP) so delighted when you experienced commercial guys turn up to impart knowledge. What's your current type btw?

Again, not making any sense... You were talking about a ball in a plane, that would get back to your hand as long as the plane stayed on its course. The same applies for Earth. Of course if the plane moves abruptly, the ball will not get back in your hand, and then the comparison with Earth ends because it does not move abruptly.

Also, this 3D video of the solar system sporting a vortex has been flagged as wrong many times.

The planets do not drag behind the sun. They sometimes pass in front of it (relatively to its own motion around the center of the galaxy). That is because the solar system (direction of the ecliptic) makes an angle with the direction of the Sun. So planets are sometimes in front of the Sun, sometimes behind.

If all you want to remember is that planets in orbit make fancy helicoids when their star moves, then yes that is true.

But in reality it looks more like this :
http://i.imgur.com/rLr8Swh.mp4

Join the planets with a line to draw the ecliptic, you can see the angle I was talking about.

Hey, finally a RE-tard that claims to have the CGI of the Solar System in motion through the Universe!!!

Do you have the math that was utilized to render this CGI and can you verify it is legitimate, sourcing Keplar, et.al.?