The Earth is flat... now what?

They will never be able to understand , these Heliocentric's have been programmed not to question authority they underestimate the intelligence of normal people because they believe they are superior.

Spot on.

To any normal person who reads or hears what they say it is obvious what they are trying to do.

The game is up !

It is obvious to most normal people that the whole space science thing is bollocks there has been no recent manned space exploration.

I grew up in the seventys/eightys and loved to watch the Sci/fi films and TV series.

I expected we would be colonising space by now but we haven't even been back to the Moon.

The majority of people now know this is because we never went there in the first place.

One question leads to another the end result is inevitable.

A moonbase was presented in the seventies as future fact.
I was a science fiction lover too and series like ''space 1999'' showed a future moonbase and a moon out of earth's orbit in deep space.
It was generally accepted that we would most certainly have a moonbase in our current timeframe.

Even the most diehard NASA defender and glober must understand that the ''money, money, money'' argument doesn't change anything at all.
The spaceshuttle project was a sort of ''a huge step backwards for mankind''  , compared to the moonlandings.
Even as a 13 year old boy i felt betrayed with the whole project in LEO....what ?? they aren't going to the moon and further this time around with that good looking shuttle ?

The spaceshuttle could carry 7 persons instaed of a lame 3 into space 
The spaceshuttle could deliver satelites to uhhhh space 
The spaceshuttle was a kind of sciencelab 
The spaceshuttle carried the large lego blocks to built the ISS
The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

What a huge step backwards compared to going to the moon and back.

I know the fanboys will join the discussion to convince me of all the wonders and great things that the spaceshuttle program delivered for mankind.
I stick to my own feelings  : space is fake....at least nothing like we were being told by the Hollywood extraterrestrial production department called NASA o...almost forgot...and other slave space agencies around the gl....world.

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Quote from: markjo on July 07, 2017, 03:18:20 PM

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Just give it up everybody knows apart from you stupid gullable Heliocentric's that nobody is ever going to the Moon as they didn't go in the first place.

We are in 2017 and there is not one video of the whole globe spinning from space.

Do you think that people are as stupid as you?



Here's a video you will like.

 

Quote from: markjo on July 07, 2017, 03:18:20 PM

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

So what?

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Why would they when it's already been established that gliders can already make jet-like noises on their own?

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Quote from: markjo on July 07, 2017, 03:18:20 PM

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

So what?

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 03:24:09 PM

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Why would they when it's already been established that gliders can already make jet-like noises on their own?

You believe a Glider can make a jet like noise ?

Have you heard how many decibels a jet engine puts out?

Have you ever been near a Jet ?

Your stupidity knows NO bounderies.

Keep up the good work.

You believe a Glider can make a jet like noise ?

Yes, because I've heard it myself.

Have you heard how many decibels a jet engine puts out?

I said that a fast moving glider can sound like a jet. 

I never said anything about being as loud as a jet.

Do you not understand the difference?

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 03:24:09 PM

Quote from: markjo on July 07, 2017, 03:18:20 PM

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Just give it up everybody knows apart from you stupid gullable Heliocentric's that nobody is ever going to the Moon as they didn't go in the first place.

We are in 2017 and there is not one video of the whole globe spinning from space.

Do you think that people are as stupid as you?

You mean not one video you'll accept.

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 03:24:09 PM

Quote from: markjo on July 07, 2017, 03:18:20 PM

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

So what?

So it is another possible source of jet noise.

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 03:24:09 PM

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Why would they when it's already been established that gliders can already make jet-like noises on their own?

Just putting it out there as a possibility.  Believers of various other conspiracy theories have put out fake or altered videos to try to help their cause before.  This wouldn't be the first time.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 04:21:21 PM

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 03:24:09 PM

Quote from: markjo on July 07, 2017, 03:18:20 PM

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Just give it up everybody knows apart from you stupid gullable Heliocentric's that nobody is ever going to the Moon as they didn't go in the first place.

We are in 2017 and there is not one video of the whole globe spinning from space.

Do you think that people are as stupid as you?

You mean not one video you'll accept.

Show me the video of the whole Globe spinning from space.

Don't bother posting the high altitude weather Balloon video/animation they claim is the ISS I want to see the whole Globe spinning from a simaler perspective as the CGI blue marble 2002.

 

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Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 04:21:21 PM

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 03:24:09 PM

Quote from: markjo on July 07, 2017, 03:18:20 PM

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Just give it up everybody knows apart from you stupid gullable Heliocentric's that nobody is ever going to the Moon as they didn't go in the first place.

We are in 2017 and there is not one video of the whole globe spinning from space.

Do you think that people are as stupid as you?

You mean not one video you'll accept.

Show me the video of the whole Globe spinning from space.

Don't bother posting the high altitude weather Balloon video/animation they claim is the ISS I want to see the whole Globe spinning from a simaler perspective as the CGI blue marble 2002.

 

Why should I when you immediately declare two things fake BEFORE anything is presented and finish with a cheesy emoji?  You don't seem serious.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 04:35:19 PM

You believe a Glider can make a jet like noise ?

Yes, because I've heard it myself.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 04:35:19 PM

Have you heard how many decibels a jet engine puts out?

I said that a fast moving glider can sound like a jet. 

I never said anything about being as loud as a jet.

Do you not understand the difference?

Yet again you will say anything to defend your Starnge Heliocentric Religion .

Just to clarify you are saying a glider sounds like a "quiet Jet"

 

A Glider sounds nothing like a jet a four year old child could tell you that.

Keep up the good work.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:22:37 PM

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Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 03:24:09 PM

Quote from: markjo on July 07, 2017, 03:18:20 PM

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Just give it up everybody knows apart from you stupid gullable Heliocentric's that nobody is ever going to the Moon as they didn't go in the first place.

We are in 2017 and there is not one video of the whole globe spinning from space.

Do you think that people are as stupid as you?

You mean not one video you'll accept.

Show me the video of the whole Globe spinning from space.

Don't bother posting the high altitude weather Balloon video/animation they claim is the ISS I want to see the whole Globe spinning from a simaler perspective as the CGI blue marble 2002.

 

Why should I when you immediately declare two things fake BEFORE anything is presented and finish with a cheesy emoji?  You don't seem serious.

Give it up !

There are no videos of the whole spinning Globe.

It's not a case of why should I .

It's a case of you can't because there isn't any FACT.


By the way its NASA that claim that the 2002  blue marble is a composite image of many satellite images stitched together not me you don't even know your own religion.

Yet again you will say anything to defend your Starnge Heliocentric Religion .

Speaking of strange religions, tell me again why the sun doesn't come crashing down to the flat earth?

Just to clarify you are saying a glider sounds like a "quiet Jet"

Under certain conditions, yes.

A Glider sounds nothing like a jet a four year old child could tell you that.

*sigh*
Did you even watch this video?

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Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:22:37 PM

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Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 04:21:21 PM

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 03:24:09 PM

Quote from: markjo on July 07, 2017, 03:18:20 PM

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Just give it up everybody knows apart from you stupid gullable Heliocentric's that nobody is ever going to the Moon as they didn't go in the first place.

We are in 2017 and there is not one video of the whole globe spinning from space.

Do you think that people are as stupid as you?

You mean not one video you'll accept.

Show me the video of the whole Globe spinning from space.

Don't bother posting the high altitude weather Balloon video/animation they claim is the ISS I want to see the whole Globe spinning from a simaler perspective as the CGI blue marble 2002.

 

Why should I when you immediately declare two things fake BEFORE anything is presented and finish with a cheesy emoji?  You don't seem serious.

Give it up !

There are no videos of the whole spinning Globe.

It's not a case of why should I .

No, it is a case of why should I.  Before I even start you're already doing what I predicted.

It's a case of you can't because there isn't any FACT.

Wrong.  But still not sure why it would be worth my time.  You really don't seem serious at all.

By the way its NASA that claim that the 2002  blue marble is a composite image of many satellite images stitched together not me you don't even know your own religion.

composite doesn't equal fake.
And the 1972 blue marble is not a composite.  But both are not a video which is what you specified so not sure why you brought it up.

But if still images are interesting then there are plenty here
http://himawari8.nict.go.jp/
new one every 10 minutes and not even from NASA
But they can still be put together in a time lapse
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/10/science/An-Image-of-Earth-Every-Ten-Minutes.html?_r=1


There is this video from Apollo that does show rotation.


edit to add:
It was broadcast live at the time and the weather matched.

IF the earth is flat, then there is a need and opportunity for entirely new industries and sciences to explore and exploit whatever is beyond The Limit of the known geography of earth - whether it means that there is a drop-off at the rim of the flat earth or that the surface goes on for a considerable distance (or infinitely) beyond the known geography.  If we suppose that the known geography of a flat earth is like the flat top of a tree stump, then there is exploration of the sides leading downward - perhaps entirely strange animals and plants, and new mineral resources for mining and drilling, maybe even intelligence beings.  The potential is beyond imagining and if such a thing is possible there would be no stopping the entrepreneurs of this world, nor most of the governments; the fact that they haven't tried is evidence that they know that they earth is not flat.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

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Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:22:37 PM

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 05:19:20 PM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 04:21:21 PM

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 03:24:09 PM

Quote from: markjo on July 07, 2017, 03:18:20 PM

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Just give it up everybody knows apart from you stupid gullable Heliocentric's that nobody is ever going to the Moon as they didn't go in the first place.

We are in 2017 and there is not one video of the whole globe spinning from space.

Do you think that people are as stupid as you?

You mean not one video you'll accept.

Show me the video of the whole Globe spinning from space.

Don't bother posting the high altitude weather Balloon video/animation they claim is the ISS I want to see the whole Globe spinning from a simaler perspective as the CGI blue marble 2002.

 

Why should I when you immediately declare two things fake BEFORE anything is presented and finish with a cheesy emoji?  You don't seem serious.

Give it up !

There are no videos of the whole spinning Globe.

It's not a case of why should I .

No, it is a case of why should I.  Before I even start you're already doing what I predicted.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

It's a case of you can't because there isn't any FACT.

Wrong.  But still not sure why it would be worth my time.  You really don't seem serious at all.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

By the way its NASA that claim that the 2002  blue marble is a composite image of many satellite images stitched together not me you don't even know your own religion.

composite doesn't equal fake.
And the 1972 blue marble is not a composite.  But both are not a video which is what you specified so not sure why you brought it up.

But if still images are interesting then there are plenty here
http://himawari8.nict.go.jp/
new one every 10 minutes and not even from NASA
But they can still be put together in a time lapse
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/10/science/An-Image-of-Earth-Every-Ten-Minutes.html?_r=1


There is this video from Apollo that does show rotation.


edit to add:
It was broadcast live at the time and the weather matched.

Just as I said there is no footage of the spinning Globe from the 2002 blue marble perspective.

We are in 2017 that's not acceptable you must watch that and understand why people are sceptical ?

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Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 05:25:15 PM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:22:37 PM

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 05:19:20 PM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 04:21:21 PM

Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 03:24:09 PM

Quote from: markjo on July 07, 2017, 03:18:20 PM

Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Just give it up everybody knows apart from you stupid gullable Heliocentric's that nobody is ever going to the Moon as they didn't go in the first place.

We are in 2017 and there is not one video of the whole globe spinning from space.

Do you think that people are as stupid as you?

You mean not one video you'll accept.

Show me the video of the whole Globe spinning from space.

Don't bother posting the high altitude weather Balloon video/animation they claim is the ISS I want to see the whole Globe spinning from a simaler perspective as the CGI blue marble 2002.

 

Why should I when you immediately declare two things fake BEFORE anything is presented and finish with a cheesy emoji?  You don't seem serious.

Give it up !

There are no videos of the whole spinning Globe.

It's not a case of why should I .

No, it is a case of why should I.  Before I even start you're already doing what I predicted.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

It's a case of you can't because there isn't any FACT.

Wrong.  But still not sure why it would be worth my time.  You really don't seem serious at all.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

By the way its NASA that claim that the 2002  blue marble is a composite image of many satellite images stitched together not me you don't even know your own religion.

composite doesn't equal fake.
And the 1972 blue marble is not a composite.  But both are not a video which is what you specified so not sure why you brought it up.

But if still images are interesting then there are plenty here
http://himawari8.nict.go.jp/
new one every 10 minutes and not even from NASA
But they can still be put together in a time lapse
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/10/science/An-Image-of-Earth-Every-Ten-Minutes.html?_r=1


There is this video from Apollo that does show rotation.


edit to add:
It was broadcast live at the time and the weather matched.

Just as I said there is no footage of the spinning Globe from the 2002 blue marble perspective.

We are in 2017 that's not acceptable you must watch that and understand why people are sceptical ?

And exactly what I expected from you.  Those views are similar.  Though to be REALLY similar to the 2002 blue marble it would be taken from lower down and not show the whole Earth (hence why the 2002 image was a composite, still not fake).  Good thing you already preemptively denied any and all video from the ISS.   

But hey, thanks for proving me right.  You're not serious and it isn't worth the time. 

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Quote from: frenat on July 07, 2017, 05:19:20 PM

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 04:21:21 PM

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Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Just give it up everybody knows apart from you stupid gullable Heliocentric's that nobody is ever going to the Moon as they didn't go in the first place.

We are in 2017 and there is not one video of the whole globe spinning from space.

Do you think that people are as stupid as you?

You mean not one video you'll accept.

Show me the video of the whole Globe spinning from space.

Don't bother posting the high altitude weather Balloon video/animation they claim is the ISS I want to see the whole Globe spinning from a simaler perspective as the CGI blue marble 2002.

 

Why should I when you immediately declare two things fake BEFORE anything is presented and finish with a cheesy emoji?  You don't seem serious.

Give it up !

There are no videos of the whole spinning Globe.

It's not a case of why should I .

No, it is a case of why should I.  Before I even start you're already doing what I predicted.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

It's a case of you can't because there isn't any FACT.

Wrong.  But still not sure why it would be worth my time.  You really don't seem serious at all.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

By the way its NASA that claim that the 2002  blue marble is a composite image of many satellite images stitched together not me you don't even know your own religion.

composite doesn't equal fake.
And the 1972 blue marble is not a composite.  But both are not a video which is what you specified so not sure why you brought it up.

But if still images are interesting then there are plenty here
http://himawari8.nict.go.jp/
new one every 10 minutes and not even from NASA
But they can still be put together in a time lapse
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/10/science/An-Image-of-Earth-Every-Ten-Minutes.html?_r=1


There is this video from Apollo that does show rotation.


edit to add:
It was broadcast live at the time and the weather matched.

Just as I said there is no footage of the spinning Globe from the 2002 blue marble perspective.

We are in 2017 that's not acceptable you must watch that and understand why people are sceptical ?

And exactly what I expected from you.  Those views are similar.  Though to be REALLY similar to the 2002 blue marble it would be taken from lower down and not show the whole Earth (hence why the 2002 image was a composite, still not fake).  Good thing you already preemptively denied any and all video from the ISS.   

But hey, thanks for proving me right.  You're not serious and it isn't worth the time.

That footage is shit anyone will tell you that.

People expect much more in this day and age if you can't accept that it shows how far removed you are from society.

Keep up the good work.
 

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Quote from: dutchy on July 07, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Just give it up everybody knows apart from you stupid gullable Heliocentric's that nobody is ever going to the Moon as they didn't go in the first place.

We are in 2017 and there is not one video of the whole globe spinning from space.

Do you think that people are as stupid as you?

You mean not one video you'll accept.

Show me the video of the whole Globe spinning from space.

Don't bother posting the high altitude weather Balloon video/animation they claim is the ISS I want to see the whole Globe spinning from a simaler perspective as the CGI blue marble 2002.

 

Why should I when you immediately declare two things fake BEFORE anything is presented and finish with a cheesy emoji?  You don't seem serious.

Give it up !

There are no videos of the whole spinning Globe.

It's not a case of why should I .

No, it is a case of why should I.  Before I even start you're already doing what I predicted.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

It's a case of you can't because there isn't any FACT.

Wrong.  But still not sure why it would be worth my time.  You really don't seem serious at all.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

By the way its NASA that claim that the 2002  blue marble is a composite image of many satellite images stitched together not me you don't even know your own religion.

composite doesn't equal fake.
And the 1972 blue marble is not a composite.  But both are not a video which is what you specified so not sure why you brought it up.

But if still images are interesting then there are plenty here
http://himawari8.nict.go.jp/
new one every 10 minutes and not even from NASA
But they can still be put together in a time lapse
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/10/science/An-Image-of-Earth-Every-Ten-Minutes.html?_r=1


There is this video from Apollo that does show rotation.


edit to add:
It was broadcast live at the time and the weather matched.

Just as I said there is no footage of the spinning Globe from the 2002 blue marble perspective.

We are in 2017 that's not acceptable you must watch that and understand why people are sceptical ?

And exactly what I expected from you.  Those views are similar.  Though to be REALLY similar to the 2002 blue marble it would be taken from lower down and not show the whole Earth (hence why the 2002 image was a composite, still not fake).  Good thing you already preemptively denied any and all video from the ISS.   

But hey, thanks for proving me right.  You're not serious and it isn't worth the time.

That footage is shit anyone will tell you that.

People expect much more in this day and age if you can't except that it shows how far removed you are from society.

Keep up the good work.
 

the footage is real.  And you ignored the himawari 8 pics.  But thanks again for proving me right.

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The spaceshuttle returned to earth as a glider (althaugh many have recorded audio of the spaceshuttle's jet engine when returning to earth  ) 

That's because gliders can sound like jets when they go fast enough.  And yes, I have personally heard the sound at a local glider field.

and they often have chase planes accompanying the landing craft. 

I also wouldn't put it past some to have added sounds later.

Just give it up everybody knows apart from you stupid gullable Heliocentric's that nobody is ever going to the Moon as they didn't go in the first place.

We are in 2017 and there is not one video of the whole globe spinning from space.

Do you think that people are as stupid as you?

You mean not one video you'll accept.

Show me the video of the whole Globe spinning from space.

Don't bother posting the high altitude weather Balloon video/animation they claim is the ISS I want to see the whole Globe spinning from a simaler perspective as the CGI blue marble 2002.

 

Why should I when you immediately declare two things fake BEFORE anything is presented and finish with a cheesy emoji?  You don't seem serious.

Give it up !

There are no videos of the whole spinning Globe.

It's not a case of why should I .

No, it is a case of why should I.  Before I even start you're already doing what I predicted.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

It's a case of you can't because there isn't any FACT.

Wrong.  But still not sure why it would be worth my time.  You really don't seem serious at all.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:31:55 PM

By the way its NASA that claim that the 2002  blue marble is a composite image of many satellite images stitched together not me you don't even know your own religion.

composite doesn't equal fake.
And the 1972 blue marble is not a composite.  But both are not a video which is what you specified so not sure why you brought it up.

But if still images are interesting then there are plenty here
http://himawari8.nict.go.jp/
new one every 10 minutes and not even from NASA
But they can still be put together in a time lapse
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/10/science/An-Image-of-Earth-Every-Ten-Minutes.html?_r=1


There is this video from Apollo that does show rotation.


edit to add:
It was broadcast live at the time and the weather matched.

Just as I said there is no footage of the spinning Globe from the 2002 blue marble perspective.

We are in 2017 that's not acceptable you must watch that and understand why people are sceptical ?

And exactly what I expected from you.  Those views are similar.  Though to be REALLY similar to the 2002 blue marble it would be taken from lower down and not show the whole Earth (hence why the 2002 image was a composite, still not fake).  Good thing you already preemptively denied any and all video from the ISS.   

But hey, thanks for proving me right.  You're not serious and it isn't worth the time.

That footage is shit anyone will tell you that.

People expect much more in this day and age if you can't except that it shows how far removed you are from society.

Keep up the good work.
 

the footage is real.  And you ignored the himawari 8 pics.  But thanks again for proving me right.

I don't know where you live but hardly anyone in UK believes in the  Moon Landings so you might aswell give up everyone knows it's bollocks.

Where the astronots spacesuits radiation proof.

How did they get through the van Hallen belt ?

You just make yourself look stupid because you think it's real.

Just as I said there is no footage of the spinning Globe from the 2002 blue marble perspective.

We are in 2017 that's not acceptable you must watch that and understand why people are sceptical ?

There is simply no way to take convincing video of the slowly rotating earth from fast moving satellites.
Even the geostationary satellites are not stationary in space, they orbit over the equator once per sidereal day.

But the EPIC camera on DSCOVR is orbiting the sun at the same angular rate as the earth, so can get this sort of thing. Or
But we can explain:
sunrises and sunsets, you can't!
sunrise and sunset times and directions, you can't!
southern hemisphere distances, you can't!
24 hour daylight everywhere south of the Antarctic Circle, you can't!
six month sunlight at the South Pole from Sep 21 to Mar 21, you can't!
lunar phases, you can't!
lunar eclipses, you can't!
dawn sunlight shining up under clouds, you can't!
etc, etc, ad infinitum.
Now''s the time for  Duthcy  to put his spoke in.

I don't know where you live but hardly anyone in UK believes in the  Moon Landings so you might aswell give up everyone knows it's bollocks.

That isn't what actual surveys say.  Not that reality is a popularity contest.

Where the astronots spacesuits radiation proof.

Why should they be?  The majority of radiation encountered is particle radiation.  The Sun is rather weak in x-rays and gamma

How did they get through the van Hallen belt ?

since that one doesn't exist it wasn't a problem.  For the Van Allen belts though, they were able to go around the majority of them avoiding the more intense parts in the center.  A path that isn't available for interplanetary trips by the way.

You just make yourself look stupid because you think it's real.

I know it is real.  I've yet to see a hoax argument that stands up to scrutiny.

Quote from: Resistance.is.Futile on July 07, 2017, 05:58:54 PM

Just as I said there is no footage of the spinning Globe from the 2002 blue marble perspective.

We are in 2017 that's not acceptable you must watch that and understand why people are sceptical ?

There is simply no way to take convincing video of the slowly rotating earth from fast moving satellites.
Even the geostationary satellites are not stationary in space, they orbit over the equator once per sidereal day.

But the EPIC camera on DSCOVR is orbiting the sun at the same angular rate as the earth, so can get this sort of thing.

DSCOVR EPIC observing Earth, SciNews

Or

Dark side of the moon passing over Earth: Captured by NASA's EPIC camera, The Cosmos News

Just proves how gullible we are. 

But we can explain:
sunrises and sunsets, you can't!
sunrise and sunset times and directions, you can't!
southern hemisphere distances, you can't!
24 hour daylight everywhere south of the Antarctic Circle, you can't!
six month sunlight at the South Pole from Sep 21 to Mar 21, you can't!
lunar phases, you can't!
lunar eclipses, you can't!
dawn sunlight shining up under clouds, you can't!
etc, etc, ad infinitum.

Get with the strength, get with the Heliocentric Globe, the only model that works!

Now''s the time for  Duthcy  to put his spoke in.

Is that image fron the playstation 2 or playstation 3 it's definitely not from the playstation 4.

Don't you think that with the millions of sceptics that it's time for another manned space flight to the Moon to put this to rest.


If North Korea Claimed they had been to the Moon and shown us simliar footage to what I've just been shown on here in the last few hours would they be believed?


The answer is NO

Come on be reasonable that footage is not acceptable I've seen better on the 1960s startrek.

You can't explain the big bang which is the start of your space science.

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Just as I said there is no footage of the spinning Globe from the 2002 blue marble perspective.

We are in 2017 that's not acceptable you must watch that and understand why people are sceptical ?

There is simply no way to take convincing video of the slowly rotating earth from fast moving satellites.
Even the geostationary satellites are not stationary in space, they orbit over the equator once per sidereal day.

But the EPIC camera on DSCOVR is orbiting the sun at the same angular rate as the earth, so can get this sort of thing.

DSCOVR EPIC observing Earth, SciNews

Or

Dark side of the moon passing over Earth: Captured by NASA's EPIC camera, The Cosmos News

Just proves how gullible we are. 

But we can explain:
sunrises and sunsets, you can't!
sunrise and sunset times and directions, you can't!
southern hemisphere distances, you can't!
24 hour daylight everywhere south of the Antarctic Circle, you can't!
six month sunlight at the South Pole from Sep 21 to Mar 21, you can't!
lunar phases, you can't!
lunar eclipses, you can't!
dawn sunlight shining up under clouds, you can't!
etc, etc, ad infinitum.

Get with the strength, get with the Heliocentric Globe, the only model that works!

Now''s the time for  Duthcy  to put his spoke in.

Is that image fron the playstation 2 or playstation 3 it's definitely not from the playstation 4.

How would I know? I have never played PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 or PlayStation 4. Unlike you, I stick to reality.

As I have said so many times, all you are capable of doing is ridiculing - you can never offer anything constructive!

Don't you think that with the millions of sceptics that it's time for another manned space flight to the Moon to put this to rest.

Why bother? How would it put anything to rest. The early moon landing were broadcast live, the path of the space-craft often tracked by amateur astronomers and radio signals tracked by radio amateurs.

A kid like you was not around at the time to know these things first hand.

NASA has been to the moon plenty of times and has thousands of genuine photos taken on "real high quality film cameras".
And you still don't believe it!

Why would you believe another mission?
You even refuse to believe that the ISS is real, when is can be seen by anybody and has been photographed by ordinary cameras and by professionals with high power telescopes.

No, there are those so totally indoctrinated that they cannot believe anything that goes against the teachings at your Flat Earth temple of YouTube.
It's commonly called brainwashing and you are one of the best examples we have seen.
We have solid reasons for what we believe, all you have are doctrines you parrot from YouTube.
When asked for evidence, all you do is to grab another video out the trash can.

If North Korea Claimed they had been to the Moon and shown us simliar footage to what I've just been shown on here in the last few hours would they be believed?

The answer is NO

So what? I would depend entirely what the evidence was. The USA and many other nations could track any spacecraft much of the distance.

Come on be reasonable that footage is not acceptable I've seen better on the 1960s startrek.

Maybe because NASA use real-life photographs, StarTrek can use studio effects.

You can't explain the big bang which is the start of your space science.

Why, "the big bang" is not my problem, and why is it part of my "space science".
I am concerned here only with the Heliocentric Globe and that was well accepted and fitted astronomical observation long before there were any ideas about any "Big Bang".
But do you, since you claim not to be religious, have better theories about the "beginning"?

But we can explain:
      sunrises and sunsets, you can't!
      sunrise and sunset times and directions, you can't!
      southern hemisphere distances, you can't!
      24 hour daylight everywhere south of the Antarctic Circle, you can't!
      six month sunlight at the South Pole from Sep 21 to Mar 21, you can't!
      lunar phases, you can't!
      lunar eclipses, you can't!
      dawn sunlight shining up under clouds, you can't!
etc, etc, ad infinitum.

So whatever you try to disprove, you've got explanations of nothing !

Come on be reasonable that footage is not acceptable I've seen better on the 1960s startrek.

You can't explain the big bang which is the start of your space science.

The problem is not that we cannot explain you something. The problem is that you will not understand anything.

I don't know where you live but hardly anyone in UK believes in the  Moon Landings so you might aswell give up everyone knows it's bollocks.

So 48% is "hardly anyone".

Really, and 12 million Americans believe alien lizards rule us.
Neither the moon landings nor the shape of the earth can be determined by public ballot.

Where the astronots spacesuits radiation proof.

No. 

How did they get through the van Hallen belt ?

They didn't get through "the  van Hallen belt  ".

You just make yourself look stupid because you think it's real.

Look in the mirror! No-one, apart from you (again) claimed that they even attempted to get through any " van Hallen belt  ".

You claim to know so much about these "  van Hallen belts  ", but you can't even spell his name!

Now please explain how you know that the Van Allen Belts are impenetrable to astronauts!

Earth's two main belts extend from an altitude of about 500 to 58,000 kilometers above the surface in which region radiation levels vary.

If you admit that space travel is possible, what grounds do you have for doubting the ISS, the Space Shuttle and even the moon missions.
If you deny that space travel is possible, the YOU must admit that YOU know nothing of the Van Allen belts.

No-one denies that the Van Allen belts pose a serious hazard, but NASA did a lot of research before the moon missions.
As a result, they

• chose a translunar injection trajectory that was far "south" of the equatorial plane to avoid the worst of the radiation,
• determined that the type of radiation (largely particulate, not gamma radiation) was easily blocked by light materials that were part of the spacecraft's structure anyway and
• fitted the spacecraft  and crew with radiation monitors to ebsure that their calculations were correct.

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Read a lot more detail in CLAVIUS ENVIRONMENT, Radiation and the Van Allen Belts.

And here are a few quotes from that article:

Claim: There is too much radiation in outer space for manned space travel.

This general charge is usually made by people who don't understand very much at all about radiation. After witnessing the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the tragedy of Chernobyl it is not surprising that the idea of radiation should elicit an intuitively fearful reaction. But when you understand the different types of radiation and what can be done about them, it becomes a manageable problem to avoid radiation exposure.

Claim: It doesn't matter how difficult or expensive it might have been to falsify the lunar landings. Since it was absolutely impossible to solve the radiation problem, the landings had to have been faked.

This is a common method of argument that attempts to prove something that can't be proven, by disproving something else. In this case the reader is compelled to accept the conspiracy theory and all its attendant problems and improbabilities, simply on the basis that no matter how difficult, absurd, or far-fetched a particular proposition may be, if it's the only alternative to something clearly impossible then it must -- somehow -- have come to pass. This false dilemma is aimed at pushing the reader past healthy skepticism and into a frame of mind where the absurd seems plausible.

Claim: The Van Allen belts are full of deadly radiation, and anyone passing through them would be fried.

Needless to say, this is a very simplistic statement. Yes, there is deadly radiation in the Van Allen belts, but the nature of that radiation was known to the Apollo engineers and they were able to make suitable preparations. The principle danger of the Van Allen belts is high-energy protons, which are not that difficult to shield against. And the Apollo navigators plotted a course through the thinnest parts of the belts and arranged for the spacecraft to pass through them quickly, limiting the exposure.

The Van Allen belts span only about forty degrees of earth's latitude -- twenty degrees above and below the magnetic equator. The diagrams of Apollo's translunar trajectory printed in various press releases are not entirely accurate. They tend to show only a two-dimensional version of the actual trajectory. The actual trajectory was three-dimensional. The highly technical reports of Apollo, accessible to but not generally understood by the public, give the three-dimensional details of the translunar trajectory.

Each mission flew a slightly different trajectory in order to access its landing site, but the orbital inclination of the translunar coast trajectory was always in the neighborhood of 30°. Stated another way, the geometric plane containing the translunar trajectory was inclined to the earth's equator by about 30°. A spacecraft following that trajectory would bypass all but the edges of the Van Allen belts.

This is not to dispute that passage through the Van Allen belts would be dangerous. But NASA conducted a series of experiments designed to investigate the nature of the Van Allen belts, culminating in the repeated traversal of the Southern Atlantic Magnetic Anomaly (an intense, low-hanging patch of Van Allen belt) by the Gemini 10 astronauts.

See CLAVIUS ENVIRONMENT, Radiation Primer. and learn a bit about radiation.

Put simply:
1) NASA had done much study of the Van Allen Belts before the mission. All the information we have on the comes from NASA!

2) The radiation is mainly charged particles, which unlike gamma radiation, requires relatively little lightweight shielding.

3) Whatever you might claim, the trajectories were chosen to minimise the time in the VABs.

And I stress, ALL you know of the Van Allen Belts comes from NASA (and possibly other space agencies), for stop pretending that you know more than they do.

How would I know? I have never played PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 or PlayStation 4. Unlike you, I stick to reality.

Rabinoz, the graphics in a modern computer game (assuming that your computer specs are up to date), vastly surpasses all the cgi that NASA has presented till now.
It is a revelation to me why you still think that dark moon crossing the earth is real.......you simply do not now what todays cgi look like in gaming.
So please catch up with reality and then compare with NASA's attempts and you will feel betrayed just like modern people who keep up with the latest developments in computer graphics.
Now i also understand your inabilty to discern a real live performance from a tricky mix (ISS+earthband)
Maybe you aren't into popmusic and gaming, no problem here, but in both cases you would have noticed right away what cheap marketing crap NASA is serving the general public.
Thanks for sharing, it helps me a lot to understand what your current position towards NASA and their cgi is.

Why bother? How would it put anything to rest. The early moon landing were broadcast live, the path of the space-craft often tracked by amateur astronomers and radio signals tracked by radio amateurs.

The first 1969 moon landings were prerecorded on a big screen and the internaional tv stations could record the prerecorded film displayed........no live event whatsoever.
The ''radio amatures'' is such a lame excuse,.....even the Russians couldn't really track Apollo and had to beg the Brittains for the latest info on the US new frequencies.
You know little about Apollo so it seems,........do some research and things aren't that obvious as the official storyline.
Do you really think some people ruined their lives out of attention seeking ?
People genuinely found many flaws and absurdities in the Apollo story and footage and felt it was their human duty to inform the general public.
It is people like you that make me loose believe in humanity, people so easily indoctrinated and controlled by official storylines and supposed ''scientific peer reviews''.

If you have any instinct left to think outside the box as an independent induvidual, start with the Apollo hoax. Everyone who gives it a real and honest chance will encounter so many irregularities that you will finally doubt some parts of the official story.....a good beginning.

Frenat where art thou ? 

Quote from: rabinoz on July 07, 2017, 08:12:48 PM

How would I know? I have never played PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 or PlayStation 4. Unlike you, I stick to reality.

Rabinoz, the graphics in a modern computer game (assuming that your computer specs are up to date), vastly surpasses all the cgi that NASA has presented till now.
It is a revelation to me why you still think that dark moon crossing the earth is real.......you simply do not now what todays cgi look like in gaming.

If it looks so fake to you, then please tell us what thee far side of the moon passing in front of the earth should look like from space.

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How would I know? I have never played PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 or PlayStation 4. Unlike you, I stick to reality.

Rabinoz, the graphics in a modern computer game (assuming that your computer specs are up to date), vastly surpasses all the cgi that NASA has presented till now.
It is a revelation to me why you still think that dark moon crossing the earth is real.......you simply do not now what todays cgi look like in gaming.

If it looks so fake to you, then please tell us what thee far side of the moon passing in front of the earth should look like from space.

I don't know, but here's a liitle comparison.

First is an artist rendering with recently discovered Kepler in mind


Here is a ''real photo'' from the same NASA department presenting the darkside of the moon crossing earth
Kepler looks better doesn't it


And here is a high altitude picture from earth.


I'm from the Netherlands, country of the ''Dutch masters''.Rembrandt was the master of light.
The reflection of real sunlight is the most difficult to fake....now look to that high altitude balloon photo and compare with the other two.
...reality looks very different markjo...doesn't it ?