Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument

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Jonny B Smart

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Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« on: April 07, 2017, 11:22:22 AM »
When I drive my car, I worry about spilling my coffee. That is why I am careful when I go around sharp corners. I can take a corner at 10-15 mph, but I keep an eye on my coffee if I happen to be without a lid.

On a larger-radius turn, such as a big cloverleaf (we Americans have 270° curving ramps for turning left from one highway to another without crossing traffic), I can take the curve at maybe 40 mph. Gentler curves on country highways I can take at 70 mph without spilling my coffee. My coffee barely "feels" the acceleration of a curve with a radius of a mile when even when I travel 70 mph. (I could probably go faster, but laws and all that.) I also barely turn the wheel.

The point is, I have to slow way down to save my coffee on short-radius turns, but the bigger the radius the faster I can take the turn without spilling.

Now I'm trying to imagine driving around a corner with a 4,000 mile radius. I bet I could drive really fast without spilling my coffee (or turning my wheel perceptibly). I could probably do it at like 1,000 mph and not even notice I was turning at all. Good thing, because coffee keeps me going.

Mug, anyone? I'll put the kettle on.
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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 11:24:19 AM »
I'll take one! Extra whip like the layers of the atmosphere that move with the coffee as well.
I know it's not good for my heart, but it's just so tasty.
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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 11:41:57 AM »
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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2017, 12:20:22 PM »
When I drive my car, I worry about spilling my coffee. That is why I am careful when I go around sharp corners. I can take a corner at 10-15 mph, but I keep an eye on my coffee if I happen to be without a lid.

On a larger-radius turn, such as a big cloverleaf (we Americans have 270° curving ramps for turning left from one highway to another without crossing traffic), I can take the curve at maybe 40 mph. Gentler curves on country highways I can take at 70 mph without spilling my coffee. My coffee barely "feels" the acceleration of a curve with a radius of a mile when even when I travel 70 mph. (I could probably go faster, but laws and all that.) I also barely turn the wheel.

The point is, I have to slow way down to save my coffee on short-radius turns, but the bigger the radius the faster I can take the turn without spilling.

Now I'm trying to imagine driving around a corner with a 4,000 mile radius. I bet I could drive really fast without spilling my coffee (or turning my wheel perceptibly). I could probably do it at like 1,000 mph and not even notice I was turning at all. Good thing, because coffee keeps me going.

Mug, anyone? I'll put the kettle on.

How about you drive in a circle doing 1,000 MPH, I bet the coffee flies out of the cup from the centrifugal forces. Your cup of coffee doesn't prove anything.

The claim is, the water on earth bows to make the ball earth from the centrifugal forces, that claim is false.

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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2017, 12:45:14 PM »


How about you drive in a circle doing 1,000 MPH, I bet the coffee flies out of the cup from the centrifugal forces.

That's... exactly what he was describing. Driving at that speed around a curve the size of the earth won't cause centrifugal forces sufficient to spill the coffee.
I'm beginning to thing that the whole "selective reality" thing isn't just an insult bandied around to make Flat Earth Theorists seem silly...
Are you ok, physical observer? Can you, yknow... read?

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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2017, 12:52:03 PM »


How about you drive in a circle doing 1,000 MPH, I bet the coffee flies out of the cup from the centrifugal forces.

That's... exactly what he was describing. Driving at that speed around a curve the size of the earth won't cause centrifugal forces sufficient to spill the coffee.
I'm beginning to thing that the whole "selective reality" thing isn't just an insult bandied around to make Flat Earth Theorists seem silly...
Are you ok, physical observer? Can you, yknow... read?

RE claims the water on earth is being pulled out to make the marble earth by centrifugal forces, yet you'll claim driving around in a circle at 1,000 MPH will have no effect on your coffee. You just debunked the water and centrifugal force claim of mainstream science and the globe earth, NICE JOB!!!!!!!!

Let us know when the coffee in the cup turns into a sphere from the forces of driving in a circle at 1,000 MPH. Then you might have a case for a spherical earth.

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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2017, 01:01:11 PM »


How about you drive in a circle doing 1,000 MPH, I bet the coffee flies out of the cup from the centrifugal forces.

That's... exactly what he was describing. Driving at that speed around a curve the size of the earth won't cause centrifugal forces sufficient to spill the coffee.
I'm beginning to thing that the whole "selective reality" thing isn't just an insult bandied around to make Flat Earth Theorists seem silly...
Are you ok, physical observer? Can you, yknow... read?

RE claims the water on earth is being pulled out to make the marble earth by centrifugal forces, yet you'll claim driving around in a circle at 1,000 MPH will have no effect on your coffee. You just debunked the water and centrifugal force claim of mainstream science and the globe earth, NICE JOB!!!!!!!!

Let us know when the coffee in the cup turns into a sphere from the forces of driving in a circle at 1,000 MPH. Then you might have a case for a spherical earth.

So you want a scale model of the earth - real size to prove it.
But then you'll stand on it and say there's no curve.
And you do understand the difference between the two experiments
I'll give you a hint: scale.
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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2017, 01:41:00 PM »
How about you drive in a circle doing 1,000 MPH, I bet the coffee flies out of the cup from the centrifugal forces.

That's... exactly what he was describing. Driving at that speed around a curve the size of the earth won't cause centrifugal forces sufficient to spill the coffee.
I'm beginning to thing that the whole "selective reality" thing isn't just an insult bandied around to make Flat Earth Theorists seem silly...
Are you ok, physical observer? Can you, yknow... read?

RE claims the water on earth is being pulled out to make the marble earth by centrifugal forces, yet you'll claim driving around in a circle at 1,000 MPH will have no effect on your coffee.

Now I'm trying to imagine driving around a corner with a 4,000 mile radius. I bet I could drive really fast without spilling my coffee (or turning my wheel perceptibly). I could probably do it at like 1,000 mph and not even notice I was turning at all.

Driving at that speed around a curve the size of the earth won't cause centrifugal forces sufficient to spill the coffee.

Where did anyone claim there would be "no effect".

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You just debunked the water and centrifugal force claim of mainstream science and the globe earth

Um... nope.

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Let us know when the coffee in the cup turns into a sphere from the forces of driving in a circle at 1,000 MPH. Then you might have a case for a spherical earth.

The centrifugal acceleration from a turn at 1000 mi/hr with 4,000 mile radius is about 0.002 g. Applying that acceleration sideways to a cup of coffee would be equivalent to tipping it by about 0.12° (about 1/8 degree). It would have a (tiny) effect, but would that be noticeable without precision instruments?
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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2017, 02:09:43 PM »


How about you drive in a circle doing 1,000 MPH, I bet the coffee flies out of the cup from the centrifugal forces.

That's... exactly what he was describing. Driving at that speed around a curve the size of the earth won't cause centrifugal forces sufficient to spill the coffee.
I'm beginning to thing that the whole "selective reality" thing isn't just an insult bandied around to make Flat Earth Theorists seem silly...
Are you ok, physical observer? Can you, yknow... read?

RE claims the water on earth is being pulled out to make the marble earth by centrifugal forces, yet you'll claim driving around in a circle at 1,000 MPH will have no effect on your coffee. You just debunked the water and centrifugal force claim of mainstream science and the globe earth, NICE JOB!!!!!!!!

Let us know when the coffee in the cup turns into a sphere from the forces of driving in a circle at 1,000 MPH. Then you might have a case for a spherical earth.

Let us know when the coffee in the cup turns into a sphere from the forces of driving in a circle at 1,000 MPH

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Jonny B Smart

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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2017, 03:38:03 PM »
Physical observer, how much would you have to turn your steering wheel to go around a corner with the 4000 mile radius? "Looks straight ahead to me!"
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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2017, 03:41:51 PM »
How about you drive in a circle doing 1,000 MPH, I bet the coffee flies out of the cup from the centrifugal forces. Your cup of coffee doesn't prove anything.

The claim is, the water on earth bows to make the ball earth from the centrifugal forces, that claim is false.
Yes it does.
It shows that the size of the curve matters.
If you try going around a tiny circle at 1000 miles per hour, it would be a problem.

If you try going around a massive one, with a radius of say 6371 km, it wont be an issue at all.

No, the fact is water on Earth is held by gravity into a roughly spherical shape.
The only people spouting such a ridiculous claims are people like you, that which to set up a pathetic strawman because you know that you stand no chance at honestly and rationally refuting the reality of Earth being round.

The spinning creates a small bulge at the equator (roughly 0.15%).

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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2017, 04:36:56 PM »
RE claims the water on earth is being pulled out to make the marble earth by centrifugal forces
No. The water is pulled IN by gravity. This makes the marble. The centrifugal force is just responcible for the slight bulge at the equator.

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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2017, 06:27:53 PM »
"Full of antioxidants," they say.
Even more when taken with a little (not TOO little) dark chocolate, they say!
Now back to our 1,000 mph coffee.

I have never had any at 1,000 mph, but enough at over 1,000 km/h (ground speed) to know that there is no problem!.

And it's not even the rotation (centripetal stuff) that's a problem. It's sideways acceleration, look at:

Bob Hoover Barrel Roll
And, same pilot: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bob Hoover trick in 2006. A littje shaky, but heck he's flying the plane in a 1G barrel roll with his left hand at the same time!

Anyone for detecting "a spinning speeding ball with clues from earth"?

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Re: Cup of coffee debunks "spinning 1,000 mph" argument
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2017, 07:19:08 PM »
That video is incredible Rab.

What a pilot...
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.