Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?

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Arealhumanbeing

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2017, 07:37:24 AM »
Why is it that i can find source after source saying NASA was indeed run by Nazis if i am lying?

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2017, 07:42:37 AM »
List the sources so the can be fact checked.
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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2017, 09:47:37 AM »
Why is it that i can find source after source saying NASA was indeed run by Nazis if i am lying?

Because you only look at sources that confirm your prejudices?
Facts won't do what I want them to.

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2017, 10:03:27 AM »
Why is it that i can find source after source saying NASA was indeed run by Nazis if i am lying?
I'm sorry, but I'm still having trouble trying to figure out the point that you're trying to make.  So what if some former Nazis ran NASA?  What is that supposed prove, other than that we hated the Commies more than the Nazis at the time?
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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2017, 01:40:26 PM »
Why is it that i can find source after source saying NASA was indeed run by Nazis if i am lying?
I'm sorry, but I'm still having trouble trying to figure out the point that you're trying to make.  So what if some former Nazis ran NASA?  What is that supposed prove, other than that we hated the Commies more than the Nazis at the time?
I think it proves that the Globe is flat, but I haven't worked out the connection yet.

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2017, 03:49:22 PM »
*Yawn*

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/Biographies/historyb.htm

Administrators and Deputy Administrators links work. These are the guys that "ran the program." No Nazis there unless I missed one, or there's one that's more recent. This page is from 2004; the other links are broken.

There's a mailto at the bottom. Maybe write and ask for a list of Nazis that worked there, and you can show us.
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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2017, 04:08:09 PM »
Why is it that i can find source after source saying NASA was indeed run by Nazis if i am lying?
What are your sources then?
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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2017, 05:18:02 PM »
So far your one and only bit of evidence for Nazis "running NASA" is Werner von Braun.

Von Braun's career for the Germans had its ups and downs. At times he was treated as a prisoner and a slave laborer by the Nazis.  He was taken prisoner by the US Army at the end of the war, worked on the Redstone rockets for the US during the Korean War.

But NASA was established in 1958, and von Braun did not transfer from the US Army to NASA until 1960 - a definite indication that NASA was not created nor run by Nazis.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun   

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2017, 07:31:31 PM »
Why dont you post a link disproving my claims.
Why don't you try explaining the relevance of your claims?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2017, 09:05:38 PM »
NASA NEVER HAD NAZIS!!! HOW CAN PEOPLE BELIEVE STUFF LIKE THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE!!!

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2017, 09:09:52 PM »
NASA NEVER HAD NAZIS!!! HOW CAN PEOPLE BELIEVE STUFF LIKE THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE!!!

Lol.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2017, 09:24:34 PM »
NASA NEVER HAD NAZIS!!! HOW CAN PEOPLE BELIEVE STUFF LIKE THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE!!!

Lol.

You won't be laughing when the tolerance of that kind of ignorance invites Muslims into your home to chop of your head!!! Join me!!! I'm trying to get this site shut down!!!

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2017, 11:54:05 PM »
NASA NEVER HAD NAZIS!!! HOW CAN PEOPLE BELIEVE STUFF LIKE THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE!!!

Lol.

You won't be laughing when the tolerance of that kind of ignorance invites Muslims into your home to chop of your head!!! Join me!!! I'm trying to get this site shut down!!!
NASA employed many german scientists who had worked on the V2 (after all this was a horrible weapon but a masterpiece of engineering). It is (statistically) safe to say that some of them were nazis. Whether the entire space program was run by them is a totally different matter, though.

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2017, 12:13:25 AM »
NASA NEVER HAD NAZIS!!! HOW CAN PEOPLE BELIEVE STUFF LIKE THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE!!!

Lol.

You won't be laughing when the tolerance of that kind of ignorance invites Muslims into your home to chop of your head!!! Join me!!! I'm trying to get this site shut down!!!

You are sick. How dare you equate FET with literal islam?

I will never "join you."

NASA NEVER HAD NAZIS!!! HOW CAN PEOPLE BELIEVE STUFF LIKE THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE!!!

Lol.

You won't be laughing when the tolerance of that kind of ignorance invites Muslims into your home to chop of your head!!! Join me!!! I'm trying to get this site shut down!!!
NASA employed many german scientists who had worked on the V2 (after all this was a horrible weapon but a masterpiece of engineering). It is (statistically) safe to say that some of them were nazis. Whether the entire space program was run by them is a totally different matter, though.

As always Kami is a voice of reason and logic.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2017, 09:56:52 AM »
NASA NEVER HAD NAZIS!!! HOW CAN PEOPLE BELIEVE STUFF LIKE THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE!!!

Lol.

You won't be laughing when the tolerance of that kind of ignorance invites Muslims into your home to chop of your head!!! Join me!!! I'm trying to get this site shut down!!!
How are you going about getting this site shut down? You'd be better off spending your time trying to get YouTube shut down. But yeah, whatever.

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rabinoz

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2017, 02:59:31 PM »
NASA NEVER HAD NAZIS!!! HOW CAN PEOPLE BELIEVE STUFF LIKE THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE!!!

Lol.

You won't be laughing when the tolerance of that kind of ignorance invites Muslims into your home to chop of your head!!! Join me!!! I'm trying to get this site shut down!!!
How are you going about getting this site shut down? You'd be better off spending your time trying to get YouTube shut down. But yeah, whatever.
I'm certainly not in favour of a flat earth, but this site seems to a Voice of Reason compared to YouTube! And,
VoysovReason videos and CHL videos CoolHardLogic)
are not bad antidotes to a lot flat earth ideas, some think they are a bit "disrespectful", but the flat earthers show plenty of that to us!

So, please don't try to shut this site down.

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2017, 07:04:06 PM »
I'm trying to get this site shut down!!!


Try ALL CAPS and BOLD.   ::)


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rabinoz

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2017, 07:25:38 PM »
I'm trying to get this site shut down!!!
Try ALL CAPS and BOLD.   ::)
IT MUST HAVE BEEN REAL IMPORTANT THEN!
Ugh!

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Arealhumanbeing

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2017, 07:43:36 AM »
So, who can disprove what ive said? Nobody? Hmm shame. You globalists are going to have to face the truth eventually.

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onebigmonkey

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2017, 09:30:05 AM »
So, who can disprove what ive said? Nobody? Hmm shame. You globalists are going to have to face the truth eventually.

Already done.

You presented a blanket statement that wasn't true and didn't provide any evidence to support your claim. You've proved nothing but your own lack of knowledge.
Facts won't do what I want them to.

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2017, 08:25:26 AM »
Why oh why? Couldnt they have had fine American minds do the same thing? No? I dont believe you! If we can beat them in a war, we can beat them in rocket building. Theres really no excuse for letting war criminals live a life of luxury just because they can build rudimentary rockets.... But hey... Maybe they had magic fairy dust because the Russians let some Nazis run their space program too.
Well, I think the Americans preferred to use the Nazi Scientists than to kill them, and they gave them a choice; either to work with them or simply die - but again, it turned out they're too precious to be killed.
Nazi Germany held too many secrets about a lot of issues & especially about Earth and ancient civilizations - and I say civilizations because there are NO ALIENS from outside this plane we live on/ in/ within, because everything we see in the sky, is just a reflection of what's on this plane (which is limitless) - at least this is what I believe)!
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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2017, 12:53:09 AM »
Why oh why? Couldnt they have had fine American minds do the same thing? No? I dont believe you! If we can beat them in a war, we can beat them in rocket building. Theres really no excuse for letting war criminals live a life of luxury just because they can build rudimentary rockets.... But hey... Maybe they had magic fairy dust because the Russians let some Nazis run their space program too.
Well, I think the Americans preferred to use the Nazi Scientists than to kill them, and they gave them a choice; either to work with them or simply die - but again, it turned out they're too precious to be killed.
Nazi Germany held too many secrets about a lot of issues & especially about Earth and ancient civilizations - and I say civilizations because there are NO ALIENS from outside this plane we live on/ in/ within, because everything we see in the sky, is just a reflection of what's on this plane (which is limitless) - at least this is what I believe)!
Wait a few years till you get out of your high-chair and see if you still think the same.

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Arealhumanbeing

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2017, 06:01:30 AM »
Maybe they did give the Nazis an ultimatum of "die or comply". But that only points to their unending allegiance to the Nazi killing machine. Also they were released after their usefulness in the space program ran its course and became free roaming public lobbyists and gained many medals and awards. All this for the people who are part of the most hated group on Earth.

What was the US government thinking???

Oh yeah..." We are above the people, we can do what we want, we dont have to ask them, this is for the greater good"

If our government has evolved into one that acts without representation, it sure sounds like the very reason America broke away from england in the first place. I doubt the US gov. is acting any differently today, and I say its time for a revolution.

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2017, 06:18:06 AM »
Maybe they did give the Nazis an ultimatum of "die or comply". But that only points to their unending allegiance to the Nazi killing machine. Also they were released after their usefulness in the space program ran its course and became free roaming public lobbyists and gained many medals and awards. All this for the people who are part of the most hated group on Earth.

What was the US government thinking???
Maybe the US government was thinking that they hated the then Commies more than they hated the Nazis.
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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2017, 06:24:24 AM »
Which, all things considered was reasonable.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Arealhumanbeing

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2017, 06:28:19 AM »
Is that good reason to circumvent democracy?

"We hate commies, lets make decisions without the publics consent!"

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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2017, 08:35:47 AM »
Is that good reason to circumvent democracy?

"We hate commies, lets make decisions without the publics consent!"
Obviously you don't understand the level of paranoia during the cold war.  The government made a lot a shady decisions without the public's consent, and still does to this day. *cough*Muslim ban*cough*
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2017, 10:53:09 AM »
Is that good reason to circumvent democracy?

"We hate commies, lets make decisions without the publics consent!"

The US is a republic, not a direct democracy. We don't vote on all decisions. There has never been a requirement for a public referendum to select which engineers do engineering work.

There were many questionable decisions made by elected officials during "the red scare". People still have differing opinions whether using the experience and skills of Von Braun, et al. in the rocket program was questionable, necessary, or brilliant. Some passionately believe it was disgraceful, others, not. Speaking of which, I haven't heard anything more about good ol' Tom Bishop's "campaign to demand a public apology" about this very topic after his initial flurry of "outrage" more than a year and a half ago. Anything further on the other site?
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Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2017, 06:14:08 PM »
Is that good reason to circumvent democracy?

"We hate commies, lets make decisions without the publics consent!"
I don't think it was a case of hating communists more than Nazis at all.
Many people, myself included, did not "hate" the Russian people, nor did we "hate" the German people.
We did hate the core Nazis who set the agenda and directed the attempted genocide of the Jewish people.

Many Germans were members of the party simply because it was the only way to get ahead in their profession. Maybe they were morally weak to do that, but who among us would know how we would act under similar conditions of ambition and patriotism to the Fatherland.

But, the big difference between the Nazis (ex- or otherwise) after the war was that Communist Russia was seen as a threat and Germans, Nazi or otherwise, were not seen as any threat to national security.

Maybe the USA went too far in many areas. I think that they did with McCarthyism and its attacks on Afro-Americans seeking no more than to better their lot, eg Paul Robeson and many from Hollywood. Some of these did have Communist leanings, but it was all handled so ham-fistedly!

But for a 15-year-old kid like yourself to be so critical of so much from so far back is a bit immature, though the extreme anti-Nazi feelings of anyone with connections with Israel is understandable.

So, for me the bottom line is simply that
the USA did not regard Germans, even Nazis, as any sort of a threat, but rightly or wrongly, they did regard Communist Russia as a threat to national security.