The dome is dead.

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Lonegranger

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The dome is dead.
« on: December 29, 2016, 12:49:55 AM »
It looks like the dome in flat earth mythology is having a tough time at the moment being breached from below by rockets and pies and from above by lumps of rock. It must have quite a few holes in it....a bit like flat earth theory.

It must be tough being a flat earther being besieged by pesky verifiable facts and evidence from all directions, is this why the flat earth community appear to abhor them.....facts that is?

I think it's time for the flat earth community to throw its collective hands up and say ....... "ok the dome is dead, we was just fooling"

Just to make it official, what we could do on this thread is make two 'piles' of evidence, well one pile to be accurate where we can present verifiable evidence for the non existance of the dome. I think these two inbound meteors from space are a good starter that say 'no dome'.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/nov/06/chelyabinsk-meteor-russia

https://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2016/dec/06/meteor-brightens-night-sky-in-siberia-video

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Lonegranger

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2016, 01:34:23 AM »
Some background 'facts' on those pesky dome penetrating meteoroids...soon to be meteor....then meteorite.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteoroid

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Lonegranger

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2016, 01:45:28 AM »
Now not only do we recieve irregular cosmic dome punching rocks like the above....but we also have regular visitors that appear to make their way through with great regularity.

Quadrantids
Quadrantids is the first meteor shower of every year, usually occurring between the last week of December, and January 12. It peaks around January 3 and January 4 and is best seen from the Northern Hemisphere. The radiant point for the Quadrantids lies in the constellation Boötes, close to the Big Dipper.

Lyrids
The radiant point of the Lyrids lies in the constellation Lyra. This meteor shower occurs between April 16 to April 26th of every year and can be seen from the Northern and Southern Hemisphere.

Eta Aquarids
The next major meteor shower of the year, the Eta Aquarids, occurs between late April and mid-May, peaking around May 5-6. It is best seen from the Southern Hemisphere, though observers in the Northern Hemisphere can also enjoy a sparser display. Meteoroids in the Eta Aquarids are remnants from Halley’s Comet. The radiant for this shower lies in the constellation Aquarius.

Perseids
The Perseid meteor shower occurs in mid-August, reaching peak activity around August 11-13. Its radiant point lies in the constellation Perseus and it is associated with the comet Swift-Tuttle.

Draconids
The Draconid meteor shower, occurs every October, peaking around October 7-8. The name of this shower comes from the constellation Draco the Dragon.

Orionids
The Orionid meteor shower, which is also associated with debris from Halley’s comet, occurs every October, peaking around October 21-22. The name of this shower comes from the constellation Orion.

Leonids
Leonids occur during the month of November, usually peaking around mid-November. It is associated with the comet Tempel-Tuttle and is named after the constellation, Leo.

Geminids and Ursids
The month of December is good for meteor shower watchers, with the Geminids gracing the skies in early December, peaking around December 13-14, and the Ursids that peak around December 22-23. The Geminids owes their name to the constellation Gemini and are the only major meteor shower not associated with a comet, but with an asteroid. Ursids, on the other hand, get their name from the constellation Ursa Minor.

Viewing a Meteor Shower
Meteors are best viewed during the night, though meteoroids can enter the Earth’s atmosphere at any time of the day. They are just harder to see in the daylight. Any ambient light, even from the Moon, is a bane for meteor watchers. Meteors can be best seen away from city lights, on a New Moon night.
Since meteors seem to come from the constellation they are named after, meteor watchers should try and find the direction of the constellation in the sky and look there for meteors.
July and August are some of the best months to observe meteor showers. Along with the Perseid, these months experience several minor meteor showers. December is another good month for meteor watchers.

Wow the evidence for no dome is really mounting.....

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Lonegranger

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2016, 02:18:03 AM »
But it's not just irregular big rocks or predictable showers......it's every day. The Earth is hit by thousands and thousands of Dome breaching metal and rock space fragments every single day.

http://space-facts.com/meteorites/

That's a nice pile of evidence pointing to the 'no dome' view.......still see no even teeny weeny pile to support the opposing view......ah but silly me as there is no evidence for the Dome........It's an example of evidence free belief just like the rest of flat earth mythology, based on no more than negativity, conspiracy, wishful thinking and gut ache.

Ah but watch this space, as the flat earth cadets zoom in with their witty film flam and personal abuse that they imagine will render facts null and void. If only they could for once post something that might just be credible.....a photo of the Dome, or a sample of its structure, or a study of its structure!.......we live in hope.

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Lonegranger

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2016, 02:34:17 AM »
Looks like no one wants to come out and play....    :'(

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disputeone

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2016, 02:41:37 AM »
Or, no one cares, take your pick.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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TheRealBillNye

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2016, 02:42:28 AM »
Looks like no one wants to come out and play....    :'(

No, sorry. Sceptimatic might appear, but he would only say something like "you indoctrinated fool, meteors don't exist"

Totllackey  might show up and post a video of a rocket "stricking" the dome at 72 miles of altitude, and then ignore all FE math putting the sun at least 3,000 miles high, with the dome being higher still.

I totally agree with you. Insistence upon the existence of a dome is nothing short of foolish.

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FalseProphet

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2016, 02:56:28 AM »

Totllackey  might show up and post a video of a rocket "stricking" the dome at 72 miles of altitude, and then ignore all FE math putting the sun at least 3,000 miles high, with the dome being higher still.


Judging from this picture the dome is way higher than 3000 miles.



Actually room for plenty of Quadrantids and Aquarids.


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TheRealBillNye

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2016, 03:22:56 AM »

Totllackey  might show up and post a video of a rocket "stricking" the dome at 72 miles of altitude, and then ignore all FE math putting the sun at least 3,000 miles high, with the dome being higher still.


Judging from this picture the dome is way higher than 3000 miles.


I never said the dome was 3000 miles high

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Lonegranger

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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2016, 04:20:07 AM »
Or, no one cares, take your pick.

A rather pathetic display of defeat I think.....don't you? Or in other words....where is your counter evidence?..oh sorry you don't have any of that just a feeling in your gut.

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Lonegranger

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2016, 04:23:34 AM »

Totllackey  might show up and post a video of a rocket "stricking" the dome at 72 miles of altitude, and then ignore all FE math putting the sun at least 3,000 miles high, with the dome being higher still.


Judging from this picture the dome is way higher than 3000 miles.



Actually room for plenty of Quadrantids and Aquarids.

Wow false phrophit presents a rather dubious work of art as evidence plus some addition guess as to the distance of the Dome of 3000 miles!

Q1... how did you obtain this measurement?.....with a long rule perchance!
Q2...how do all those pesky lumps of rock and metal find their way through?

As usual all the evidence that the flats can present is pure nonesense.

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Arealhumanbeing

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2016, 04:47:58 AM »
Looks like no one wants to come out and play....    :'(

This isn't a game, fool. These flying rocks cannot possible come from anywhere other than ouuuuter spaaaaace. Even though they appear like clockwork every year... How does that work with the globe model? Oh... Earth is flying through the universe farther and farther away from the center every day, but these smart little rocks always know how to find Earth... Hmmmm does that make sense to anyone? Maybe these meteoroids have a Earthly origins.

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FalseProphet

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2016, 04:55:51 AM »

Q1... how did you obtain this measurement?.....with a long rule perchance!
Q2...how do all those pesky lumps of rock and metal find their way through?



A1...It could even be a lot higher. But if it would be much lower it wouldn't really be a dome.
A2...Duh, they are inside the dome. They are just whirling around up there.

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TheRealBillNye

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2016, 07:00:40 AM »
Looks like no one wants to come out and play....    :'(

This isn't a game, fool. These flying rocks cannot possible come from anywhere other than ouuuuter spaaaaace. Even though they appear like clockwork every year... How does that work with the globe model? Oh... Earth is flying through the universe farther and farther away from the center every day, but these smart little rocks always know how to find Earth... Hmmmm does that make sense to anyone? Maybe these meteoroids have a Earthly origins.

The meteors are orbiting the sun, just like everything else in the solar system.

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Lonegranger

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2016, 10:19:08 AM »
Looks like no one wants to come out and play....    :'(

This isn't a game, fool. These flying rocks cannot possible come from anywhere other than ouuuuter spaaaaace. Even though they appear like clockwork every year... How does that work with the globe model? Oh... Earth is flying through the universe farther and farther away from the center every day, but these smart little rocks always know how to find Earth... Hmmmm does that make sense to anyone? Maybe these meteoroids have a Earthly origins.

They come from the far reaches of outer space as in the case of meteors, or in the case of the recurring 'showers' debris from comets  that we, that's the earth pass through on our endless journey around the sun.
To claim they they originate from the earth is ridicules and is contrary to all the facts. Case in point the space rock over Siberia was travelling at 12 miles per second at an altitude of 28 miles and when it exploded it was equivalent to 500 kilo-tonnes of TNT. How on earth could you claim that it had terrestrial origins!

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deadsirius

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2016, 10:22:34 AM »
...Long live the dome!
Suffering from a martyr complex...so you don't have to

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Lonegranger

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2016, 10:50:59 AM »
...Long live the dome!

Love live stupidity.

One only has to gaze at the surface of the moon to see the effect of meteors. They hit the moon, they hit us.

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Arealhumanbeing

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2016, 11:53:31 AM »
Meteor impacts do not explain the craters in the moon. Not only that but the Tycho crater is only 85 km in diameter, while the moon itself is 384,400 in away. How is it possible to see something so small from so far?https://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/060308crater.htm

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Lonegranger

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2016, 02:20:37 PM »
Meteor impacts do not explain the craters in the moon. Not only that but the Tycho crater is only 85 km in diameter, while the moon itself is 384,400 in away. How is it possible to see something so small from so far?https://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/060308crater.htm

Oh but they do.....so you are clearly wrong as in so many things. Yes the Tycho crater is clearly visible from earth and is a classic impact crater. Your other comment regarding the distance to the moon is yet another red herring. 85km is not small! However your  brain must be.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tycho_(crater)

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Lonegranger

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2016, 02:26:12 PM »
So far the flat earthers have.

Posted an artists impression of the domed earth from a very jaunty angle.

Have tried to suggest meteors originate from the earth itself, suggesting they leap up 30 miles or so then attain great velocities like 12 miles per second, then blow up!

Then they have avoided the topic completely as it's just too difficult to explain away with some cock and bull flat earth story.

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Lonegranger

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2016, 03:40:47 PM »
Present some evidence that can be wormed around and the flat earthers are stumped. Meteors however are only one of the very many realities of life and the cosmos that knock this crazy flat earth theory for six.

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2016, 04:05:20 PM »
Looks like no one wants to come out and play....    :'(

This isn't a game, fool. These flying rocks cannot possible come from anywhere other than ouuuuter spaaaaace. Even though they appear like clockwork every year... How does that work with the globe model? Oh... Earth is flying through the universe farther and farther away from the center every day, but these smart little rocks always know how to find Earth... Hmmmm does that make sense to anyone? Maybe these meteoroids have a Earthly origins.
um.. why do you think yhey only target the earth, as you can see from most of thr other planets they are heavily scared with crators. And the thing that is attracing them I'm going to guess is gravity. if You need any proof of gravity just drop something, maybe on you're head.

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rabinoz

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2016, 05:08:41 PM »

Totllackey might show up and post a video of a rocket "striking" the dome at 72 miles of altitude, and then ignore all FE math putting the sun at least 3,000 miles high, with the dome being higher still.


Judging from this picture the dome is way higher than 3000 miles.



Actually room for plenty of Quadrantids and Aquarids.
Where was that " ;D photograph  ;D" taken from?  Were you there to  ::) personally verify that it is genuine  ::)?

Well, Globe supporters get asked those very questions.

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rabinoz

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Re: The dome is dead.
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2016, 05:56:36 PM »
Meteor impacts do not explain the craters in the moon. Not only that but the Tycho crater is only 85 km in diameter, while the moon itself is 384,400 in away. How is it possible to see something so small from so far?https://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/060308crater.htm
Funny how you'll swallow whole any bit of conjecture that is opposed to mainstream science, without bothering to seek alternate explanations.

But do you enjoy showing your ignorance? You ask "How is it possible to see something so small from so far?" The crater itself is too small to be other than a dot to the unaided eye, but the radiating rays can easily be seen.

To see the crater itself only quite modest magnification is needed. This is a hand-held photo taken on the night of Oct 16, 2,016 in my backyard:

2016-10-16 - Full Perigee Moon
It shows Tycho Crater quite clearly near the top right of the moon's disk. Craters do not show up the best on a full moon, but Tycho is very clearly visible. Is was taken with a fairly "long" lens, a 35 mm equiv of 1440 mm. Undoubtedly I should have cropped it a bit, but then you would accuse me of "photoshopping" it, though I did enhance the contrast.