Air Pressure vs Gravity

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2016, 09:36:15 AM »
So when you are in a car, and it accelerates, and you get pressed back in the seat, what's that?
It's atmospheric compression. AC-force, or ACOM-force.

Nope. It isn't.  Not even when you have the window open.

Still waiting for a response to the video I posted of the big fuck off vacuum chamber in which gravity works just fine.
Facts won't do what I want them to.

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2016, 09:39:28 AM »
Scepti, do you believe in acceleration?

Does acceleration produce a force?

Could this force be commonly referred to as g-forces?
Yes acceleration produces a force. And yes you commonly call it a g-force.
Why do you call it a g-force?
Because one g is a convenient unit of measure that people can relate to.
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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2016, 09:48:19 AM »
Oh, here we go again...

Anyone fancy a bet on how many pages this will get to?
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« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2016, 10:19:13 AM »
Too many.

Though It's disappointing Sceptictank has me ignored. I wanted him to explain how a wrench under 3,000 psi doesn't weigh more.
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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2016, 10:24:16 AM »

Like I said earlier, I am not likely to subscribe to your idea anytime soon but why is that relevant? Right now I am just trying to understand it better.
Most say that and most of the most spend too much time refusing to understand or deliberately deflecting.
I guess I didn't come to the right thought on your dog food example, but you said you would explain why pressure increases as altitude decreases.
Atmosphere is stacked. If you grasp what happens with anything that is stacked, you will know that the bottom is under the most pressure.
So if you decrease altitude then you will head into more pressure as you decrease.
And I also still don't know why you think air pressure always directs object down when that is where the air pressure is the highest.
It's the object itself that plays its part in that. The object, (any object) will displace it's own mass of atmosphere and that atmosphere will push back against the push into it.

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2016, 10:27:14 AM »
So when you are in a car, and it accelerates, and you get pressed back in the seat, what's that?
It's atmospheric compression. AC-force, or ACOM-force.

Nope. It isn't.  Not even when you have the window open.

Still waiting for a response to the video I posted of the big fuck off vacuum chamber in which gravity works just fine.
Yes it is and it's provable.
As for your video of a so called vacuum chamber. It's a load of old bullshit.

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2016, 10:28:35 AM »
Scepti, do you believe in acceleration?

Does acceleration produce a force?

Could this force be commonly referred to as g-forces?
Yes acceleration produces a force. And yes you commonly call it a g-force.
Why do you call it a g-force?
Because one g is a convenient unit of measure that people can relate to.
But it's still referring to the fictional gravity, right?
If not then explain to me what g-force is.

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2016, 10:37:07 AM »
So if anyone is curious about how this conversation is going to go here's the 70 page version of it.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67582.0

Here's the results if you're not interested in reading all 70 pages.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67582.msg1807214#msg1807214
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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2016, 10:45:33 AM »
So when you are in a car, and it accelerates, and you get pressed back in the seat, what's that?
It's atmospheric compression. AC-force, or ACOM-force.

Nope. It isn't.  Not even when you have the window open.

Still waiting for a response to the video I posted of the big fuck off vacuum chamber in which gravity works just fine.
Yes it is and it's provable.

Then do so.

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As for your video of a so called vacuum chamber. It's a load of old bullshit.

Your logic is unfindable.

It is a vacuum chamber. At zero atmospheric pressure. Objects fall, almost as if they were subject to a force called gravity.
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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2016, 10:48:23 AM »

I guess I didn't come to the right thought on your dog food example, but you said you would explain why pressure increases as altitude decreases.
Atmosphere is stacked. If you grasp what happens with anything that is stacked, you will know that the bottom is under the most pressure.
So if you decrease altitude then you will head into more pressure as you decrease.

Okay. But why do you consider the earth the bottom of the stack? Why isn't it the top of the stack or a side?
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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2016, 10:50:09 AM »
And I also still don't know why you think air pressure always directs object down when that is where the air pressure is the highest.
It's the object itself that plays its part in that. The object, (any object) will displace it's own mass of atmosphere and that atmosphere will push back against the push into it.

So what we have here is Archimedes' principle, or at least a version of it, is that correct? I'm not trying to lead you anywhere with this, just asking.

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2016, 11:49:41 AM »
So when you are in a car, and it accelerates, and you get pressed back in the seat, what's that?
It's atmospheric compression. AC-force, or ACOM-force.

Nope. It isn't.  Not even when you have the window open.

Still waiting for a response to the video I posted of the big fuck off vacuum chamber in which gravity works just fine.
Yes it is and it's provable.

Then do so.

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As for your video of a so called vacuum chamber. It's a load of old bullshit.

Your logic is unfindable.

It is a vacuum chamber. At zero atmospheric pressure. Objects fall, almost as if they were subject to a force called gravity.

Are you a compulsive liar or just ignorant? Vacuum chambers have air in them. None are a perfect vacuum, nothing is, not even space. Maybe if you did some more research you would find logic in things you claim to be false!!!

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2016, 11:51:22 AM »
I mean, I hate to be the barer of bad news, but if you were to suddenly move into an area of higher pressure, you wouldn't be pushed into the ground with a stronger force, in fact, pressure isn't a force, it doesn't affect acceleration towards the ground.

Even the math proves that it CAN'T move an object or supply a force (such as towards the ground).
kg*m*s-2 / m2 = kg*m-1*s-2

Measured in kilograms per meters seconds squared or pascals. This is a vector over an area or a scalar.

It doesn't have properties to provide a directional force on anything, it provides a uniform "push" on every surface of an area, in every direction and side, therefore it causes a delta(position) = 0.
The sooner you start to engage your brain and stop looking up equations for what happens, the sooner you'll actually grasp reality.
I won't hold my breath with you, though.

Well, I don't have to look those up, considering everyone should know the units for Force and Area...

However, you are making a statement that is grounded in physics, therefore if the math and concept don't agree, you are incorrect. You cannot tell me not to rely on math, the language of physics, to explain to you physics.

I'm just bring this conversation back up, because I don't really feel like retyping the whole pressure isn't a force and can't apply a force if an object is wholly affected by it
Explain yourself.

Well, let's say I put a m3 cube in a chamber

If I pump more air into the chamber, there will not be unbalanced force pushing in any direction, for instance downwards, because pressure is a scalar value. A scalar value is a value that only has a magnitude, not a direction. The reason pressure is a scalar it is measured by force/area:

Force is a vector, meaning it has magnitude and direction
Area is a value of distance^2, so it is just direction.

Force over area then means: it is a magnitude over a direction of area
Therefore all points on an area have a force pushing inwards perpendicular to the surface.

Considering every point on the cube in the chamber is exposed to the air, the force will push equally on every point on it perpendicular to the surface, meaning no movement.

As a simple proof of concept, when I float underwater in a pool, I'm not pushed in any direction (considering gravity and buoyant force are cancelling each other out) because all the pressure is equal on all surfaces of my body. Otherwise, I would probably be pushed in some random direction.

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2016, 11:55:41 AM »
So when you are in a car, and it accelerates, and you get pressed back in the seat, what's that?
It's atmospheric compression. AC-force, or ACOM-force.

Nope. It isn't.  Not even when you have the window open.

Still waiting for a response to the video I posted of the big fuck off vacuum chamber in which gravity works just fine.
Yes it is and it's provable.

Then do so.

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As for your video of a so called vacuum chamber. It's a load of old bullshit.

Your logic is unfindable.

It is a vacuum chamber. At zero atmospheric pressure. Objects fall, almost as if they were subject to a force called gravity.

Are you a compulsive liar or just ignorant? Vacuum chambers have air in them. None are a perfect vacuum, nothing is, not even space. Maybe if you did some more research you would find logic in things you claim to be false!!!
So that little air in them causes the same force as if the chamber was full of air?

Why don't object under over pressure weigh more?
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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2016, 12:54:56 PM »
Scepti, do you believe in acceleration?

Does acceleration produce a force?

Could this force be commonly referred to as g-forces?
Yes acceleration produces a force. And yes you commonly call it a g-force.
Why do you call it a g-force?
Because one g is a convenient unit of measure that people can relate to.
But it's still referring to the fictional gravity, right?
If not then explain to me what g-force is.
G forces don't necessarily refer to acceleration due to gravity.  Rather, one g refers to 9.8m/s2 of acceleration, regardless of its source.  One g of acceleration will make a mass of 1 kg weigh 1 kg.  Two g of acceleration will make that same 1 kg mass weigh 2 kg, and so on. 

Oh, that's right, I seem to recall that you don't believe in the distinction between mass and weight either.
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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2016, 01:19:59 PM »

Your logic is unfindable.

It is a vacuum chamber. At zero atmospheric pressure. Objects fall, almost as if they were subject to a force called gravity.

Are you a compulsive liar or just ignorant? Vacuum chambers have air in them. None are a perfect vacuum, nothing is, not even space. Maybe if you did some more research you would find logic in things you claim to be false!!!

Yes, "Vacuum chambers have air in them." BUT
Standard air pressure is 1,013.25 millibars
An Ultra High Vacuum is 10−9 millibars, that is about 1/1,000,000,000,000 of normal air pressure.

Only someone who a compulsive trouble maker would call that other than zero.

And when it comes to the effect on a feather falling or on anything else the difference between that and a "perfect vacuum" is zilch!

Maybe if you did some more research you would find logic in things you claim to be false!!!

And so many, like sceptimatic and papa legba, go into a fit over the "hard vacuum of space", yet the difference between that and a UH Vacuum chamber is negligible..

Have a trace of "common sense" before you call someone "a compulsive liar".

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2016, 01:27:40 PM »
Are you a compulsive liar or just ignorant? Vacuum chambers have air in them. None are a perfect vacuum, nothing is, not even space. Maybe if you did some more research you would find logic in things you claim to be false!!!

Maybe if you did some research, then you would realize that "vacuum" is not an absolute term.
Vacuum, Space in which there is no matter or in which the pressure is so low that any particles in the space do not affect any processes being carried on there. It is a condition well below normal atmospheric pressure and is measured in units of pressure (the pascal).
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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2016, 01:35:31 PM »
And what in the heck did any of that contribute to the thread. You basically just agreed with me "yes vacuum chambers have air"... "Vacuum is not an absolute term"...But then I am still told I should do more research and I'm a trouble maker...??? What is wrong with you people? What do you want? What will make you change your thickheaded noggins into realizing that you have been lied to and that earth is flat?

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2016, 02:31:47 PM »
There's no such thing as gravity. 100% certain.
Gravity is a massive lie to keep space and a spinning Earth alive. It's complete and utter garbage.
Too bad you don't have any evidence to back this statement up, whereas there is plenty of evidence to back up gravity. Nice try.
Come on then back gravity up. Show me how gravity works. Show me so I can be sure of it.

You must be willfully ignorant to be able to ignore the mountains of evidence supporting gravity.

I will give you one.

Humans can predict, with astounding accuracy, precisely when and where a solar eclipse will be visible.

How do we know this?

Humans have immense knowledge of gravitation and orbits. We have used this knowledge to calculate exactly when the moon will pass directly into sunlight.

Whereas, in your model, nobody can predict eclipses, because light comes from an unseen graphite arc lamp buried under the north pole that shines through a giant prism that rotates somehow.


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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2016, 03:13:06 PM »
Humans can predict, with astounding accuracy, precisely when and where a solar eclipse will be visible.

How do we know this?

Humans have immense knowledge of gravitation and orbits. We have used this knowledge to calculate exactly when the moon will pass directly into sunlight.

Do you have examples of eclipse prediction on the basis of orbital calculations? My understanding is that they are predicted using cycles.

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2016, 03:14:51 PM »
And what in the heck did any of that contribute to the thread. You basically just agreed with me "yes vacuum chambers have air"... "Vacuum is not an absolute term"...But then I am still told I should do more research and I'm a trouble maker...??? What is wrong with you people? What do you want? What will make you change your thickheaded noggins into realizing that you have been lied to and that earth is flat?

You ask, "What do you want?" You to show a little (un)common sense would be a good start.

Then of course, it would be good if you could look at the evidence all around you, instead of claiming that we "have been lied to and that earth is flat".

Lied to by whom, all the thousands of ancient, western and eastern astronomers (astrologers in earlier times), scientists (philosophers in earlier times) and geodetic surveyors (including the "father of geodetic surveying", al-Biruni of Persia) who have left mountains of evidence?

Lied to by what, our own eyes?

No thank you, I'd believe all this evidence before listening to your ravings about millennia-old conspiracy ideas.

Sure, conspiracies exist, our respective governments might be involved in some, I don't know, but without heaps more evidence I don't swallow any of your guff.

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2016, 03:24:28 PM »
Humans can predict, with astounding accuracy, precisely when and where a solar eclipse will be visible.

How do we know this?

Humans have immense knowledge of gravitation and orbits. We have used this knowledge to calculate exactly when the moon will pass directly into sunlight.

Do you have examples of eclipse prediction on the basis of orbital calculations? My understanding is that they are predicted using cycles.
Cycles can predict WHEN an eclipse will happen, but can't predict WHERE it will. Knowledge of orbital mechanics lets us predict exactly where they will occur.
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« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2016, 03:55:47 PM »
If it does not effect its density why would it weigh more?

Ok, so we agree air pressure doesn't cause gravity.
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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2016, 06:06:38 PM »
Sure, conspiracies exist, our respective governments might be involved in some, I don't know, but without heaps more evidence I don't swallow any of your guff.

My guff? All of what I have said about flat earth is on this website. You are complaining about a lack of evidence when you are posting on a site filled with... Evidence. Just because you deny it as such does not make it true. And you seem to continually ask the same questions even though you know what the answers are.

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #55 on: December 13, 2016, 06:18:48 PM »
And what in the heck did any of that contribute to the thread. You basically just agreed with me "yes vacuum chambers have air"... "Vacuum is not an absolute term"...But then I am still told I should do more research and I'm a trouble maker...??? What is wrong with you people?
You're the one who was implying that vacuum chambers contain enough air to affect anything going on inside the chamber.  They don't.  That's pretty much the whole point of vacuum chambers.

What do you want? What will make you change your thickheaded noggins into realizing that you have been lied to and that earth is flat?
A workable flat earth model that matches real world observations would be a good place to start.
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« Reply #56 on: December 13, 2016, 06:34:45 PM »
Cycles can predict WHEN an eclipse will happen, but can't predict WHERE it will. Knowledge of orbital mechanics lets us predict exactly where they will occur.

Thanks Al. Your scientific knowledge truly knows no bounds. Are they hiring at Umbrella Corp?

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #57 on: December 13, 2016, 07:13:30 PM »
Sure, conspiracies exist, our respective governments might be involved in some, I don't know, but without heaps more evidence I don't swallow any of your guff.

My guff? All of what I have said about flat earth is on this website. You are complaining about a lack of evidence when you are posting on a site filled with... Evidence. Just because you deny it as such does not make it true. And you seem to continually ask the same questions even though you know what the answers are.

Yes, your guff!

I know that I "seem to continually ask the same questions", simply because they have never been given a believable answer, certainly never by you.

I cannot even guess what the reasonable answers might be, simply because no-one, least of all you, has provided them.
Jroa comes up with "atmoplanic lensing, which tries to explain the "constancy of the sun's size"
Others come up with the quite unrealistic Rowbothian Refraction to explain a 5,000 km high sun appearing to set.
And you come up with zilch!


Below is "All of what" you "have said about flat earth is on this website" that I consider even vaguely relevant to the shape of the earth. As far as I am concerned none of it is "evidence for a flat earth", none at all. The most you have done is attemp to ridicule the Globe, gravity etc.

Maybe you can point out all this wonderful evidence for a "flat earth" that my poor unobservant self cannot find.

You can forget all the rubbish about conspiracies and the Illuminati, that is not evidence for a flat earth.
I want evidence of what we have here and now! Yes, i have said it before, and I'll undoubtedly say it again.

So, over to your illustrious self!

You are agreeing with me. I am only trying to say a perfect vacuum is impossible therefore your vacuum chamber arguments against the denpressure model are not valid.

And what in the heck did any of that contribute to the thread. You basically just agreed with me "yes vacuum chambers have air"... "Vacuum is not an absolute term"...But then I am still told I should do more research and I'm a trouble maker...??? What is wrong with you people? What do you want? What will make you change your thickheaded noggins into realizing that you have been lied to and that earth is flat?

Believing something false to be truth makes you stupid. Lying to a population about the shape of earth would make them stupid. Stupid people are easier to rule. What do governments do? Oh yeah, they make the laws, enforce the laws, and decide what's right and wrong. They rule.

If it does not effect its density why would it weigh more?

Wow cool. Much knowledge. Very amazed. Now go test it and show me the results. While your at it, why dont you realize that kryptonite vapor and is as real as gravity.

Too bad for you, that gravity does not explain why the universe is expanding! Thats why I dont believe in it. If earth is flat and space does not exist there is no reason to define how physics operate in a mythical environment. Everything is simplified and yet explained just a thoroughly, I belive occams razor applies here in favor of a flat earth.

Can you create a perfectly airless vacuum chamber? I can't... Not even owtur spase is a perfect vacuum. So your question is invalid. Its like asking if a lightsaber could cut through adamantium.

Where did you get that idea about the illuminati? Roman Catholic church... Thats make me smile lol What would they gain? What if everyone who wasn't part of the illuminati/freemasons was a slave like the African who were uprooted and taken to America? A government has that power through Marshall law and the population would have no choice. It would all be for "the greater good". Meanwhile the government "officials" would be munching on lobster laughing while we run their machines, make their food, and plow their fields for free, all under the idea that everyone is going through such hardships. It could all stem from another 9/11 situation where we must all sacrifice rights for the "national safety".

Thanks for the friendly response!
Why are you answering for him though? I know plenty of Christians that believe in evolution so that answers nothing really. They have to believe in it... in this "day and age" and all the "evidence" for it... So I find it rather strange that there is someone here willing to ignore all the facts of evolution, and embrace creationism, BUT still cannot comprehend why someone would believe in a flat earth and continually spend day after day on here calling them idiots.

Unbalanced forces anyone?  The comparably large vacuum of outer space moving upwards of googolplex feet per minute of air (or whatever NASA said space was rated at) will affect a lot more than just the piddling nozzle of the rawhkit.

Those objects fall because that chamber is not a perfect vacuum, there is still air inside, and those objects are more dense then the air.

Why does this site have a diagram that states gravity came before light and matter? How can gravity exist before matter if massive objects are what create gravity? And on top of that it is only a theory, how can it be the basis of the universe?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Solar_System_formation_and_evolution_hypotheses

I like how rab completely ignored my challenge. He always says flat earthers just ignore proof against flat earth... So he does the same thing when theres evidence against a globular one. Ill ask again... How can gravity come into existence before light or matter? No answer? That's ok... Its just because the answer is earth is flat and gravity is not what they say.

<< You might note that later in a thread where it was relevant, i did answer your question quite succinctly. >>

We all know God exists. To say otherwise just means you have fooled yourself into believeing a lie. Usually as a way to do evil deeds and pretend they are ok. Where did cultures long ago, before the scriptures, get the idea of an all powerful being. They just knew, they didnt have to see the being, or speak to it. Its engrained in our thoughts because our creator gave us thought.

Did you know the entire muslim religion preaches a flat earth... Not so few, eh?

<< Well, no "the entire muslim religion" does not "preach a flat earth" >>

Wtf are you talking about? That sentence doesn't even make sense. What if you turn around? Are you going uphill then? No, Earth is flat, there is no "global sloping" except the mountains and valleys created by God.

How many flat earths? How many models of the solar system have there been in the recent past. Remeber Pluto? You are holding flat earth to an unfair standard and expect everything to be explained instantly. All models of the universe in the past have become jokes to me. Look at this link below, gravity began before there was even matter or light and this is currently accepted science?? What a joke! lol

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Solar_System_formation_and_evolution_hypotheses

Markjo you obviously don't know how pressure gradients work. Stop making yourself look like a dummy and admit that you're wrong, or you'll just give proof to the validity of the results of the pole in this thread.

The illuminati are a part of the freemasons, dummy. They are the elite. As the saying goes history is written by the victors, maybe Eratosthenes and Pythagerous were really saying different things other  than what we are led to believe.

I agree with jroa, this is a ridiculous question. Explain what the driving force of fhe sun is in the current model of the solar system. You cant. Everything's expanding and we don't know why.

Airline captains follow their computers. So, lets assume the people intentionally hiding the shape of earth have control of their computers. They can just make captains take the scenic route. How many people in the planes cabin can tell exactly where they are on over an ocean?

At what point in the rockets trajectory were you absolutely certain it reached a stable orbit? Was it before you lost sight quite a ways away with your binoculars? Was there a green flash? A sonic boom? Or an announcement on a loudspeaker informing you that the rokit was now in spayse?

Are you serious? If everyone thought earth was flat we'd be screwed? Who's we? How can you make the assumption that violence would absolutely ensue from such an idea? The ONLY people that would become violent from this idea are those that have been trying to keep it a secret! They would do anything to keep themselves away from reconciliation just like any rotten liar. Keep that in mind, before another false flag 9/11 situation puts us all into FEMA camps and it will be too late.

It does not matter what shape the Earth is? But the government said it was a sphere! What if they are wrong? What if the government vanished and all the supply trucks carrying the garbage some call "food" stopped arriving at your local grocery store. What if all the electronics everyone takes so much for granted, stopped working? What would you do without orders from the masters we call the government? People will realize things are bad only because we let them get that way. Poverty and debt are rampant and knowledge of true health and well being is forbidden. We have been domesticated. We are being caged. Why? Although I may not be convinced of their flat earth views, I stand with those who believe in a flat earth, for they seem more open minded about this MENTal GOVERNing we call GOVERNMENT. The Mayan calendar never said the world would end in 2012, it marked the beginning of a time of "great awakening". I know now what that means.

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hoppy

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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #58 on: December 13, 2016, 09:07:52 PM »
And what in the heck did any of that contribute to the thread. You basically just agreed with me "yes vacuum chambers have air"... "Vacuum is not an absolute term"...But then I am still told I should do more research and I'm a trouble maker...??? What is wrong with you people? What do you want? What will make you change your thickheaded noggins into realizing that you have been lied to and that earth is flat?
They cannot believe in a flat earth, the brainwashing was too strong for them to over come it.
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Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« Reply #59 on: December 13, 2016, 09:25:05 PM »
And what in the heck did any of that contribute to the thread. You basically just agreed with me "yes vacuum chambers have air"... "Vacuum is not an absolute term"...But then I am still told I should do more research and I'm a trouble maker...??? What is wrong with you people? What do you want? What will make you change your thickheaded noggins into realizing that you have been lied to and that earth is flat?
They cannot believe in a flat earth, the brainwashing was too strong for them to over come it.
Personally I don't believe in a flat earth because I see no evidence for it.  To believe in a flat earth I would have to believe that there is some massive conspiracy, that navigators for hundreds of years have been wrong, that thousands of scientists have been wrong and that the evidence I can see for myself is a lie.  I would also have to believe that people who do believe in a flat earth have no way of coming up with a cohenrent map that fits observations and yet somehow know more than everyone else.
To believe in a flat earth I must suspend my disbelief to a point that it is, literally impossible.
But that's just me talking.