Where's the Love for Bipolar FET?

DET aside, as I already understand it and there are limited adherents, is there anyone out there who adheres to a model where the North and South pole both exist?

I've seen a couple of mentions of such a model, particularly on older threads, just wondering if any users still accept it.
If so, can someone explain the Sun's path? I'll understand if you don't have an accurate map etc, just broadly speaking, I'm wondering how it works. General relationships only.

Micro aggression against an oppressed group and not PC.

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Just kidding.

That's a really neat question. My first thought is perhaps there would be 2 suns in that model, but then there needs to be an explanation for why only one is ever seen in places where they would pass near each other. I'm having trouble visualizing a way for a single source of light to behave the way we observe across the entire Earth throughout a day.

Very neat question.

DET aside, as I already understand it and there are limited adherents, is there anyone out there who adheres to a model where the North and South pole both exist?

I've seen a couple of mentions of such a model, particularly on older threads, just wondering if any users still accept it.
If so, can someone explain the Sun's path? I'll understand if you don't have an accurate map etc, just broadly speaking, I'm wondering how it works. General relationships only.

Tom Bishop, who posts mainly on TFES.org supports the "Bipolar Map" more or less as presented in
But, be warned, you're in for a rough ride with all these "Monstrous Hypothetical Motions"
and some "interesting" ideas about astronomy.

Quote from: Jane on November 15, 2016, 02:38:30 PM

DET aside, as I already understand it and there are limited adherents, is there anyone out there who adheres to a model where the North and South pole both exist?

I've seen a couple of mentions of such a model, particularly on older threads, just wondering if any users still accept it.
If so, can someone explain the Sun's path? I'll understand if you don't have an accurate map etc, just broadly speaking, I'm wondering how it works. General relationships only.

Tom Bishop, who posts mainly on TFES.org supports the "Bipolar Map" more or less as presented in

SEA-EARTH GLOBE, And Its Monstrous Hypothetical Motions; OR Modern Theoretical Astronomy, by Zetetes.

But, be warned, you're in for a rough ride with all these "Monstrous Hypothetical Motions"

I got through DET  Looking forward to it!
Thanks for the reference.

The half tiger dude posted a map of one not too long ago, saying it's the correct model, I keep meaning to ask him how it works

The half tiger dude posted a map of one not too long ago, saying it's the correct model, I keep meaning to ask him how it works

"Here, this copypaste explains it all."

Tom Bishop, who posts mainly on TFES.org supports the "Bipolar Map" more or less as presented in

SEA-EARTH GLOBE, And Its Monstrous Hypothetical Motions; OR Modern Theoretical Astronomy, by Zetetes.

But, be warned, you're in for a rough ride with all these "Monstrous Hypothetical Motions"
and some "interesting" ideas about astronomy.

So, by the look of it, the Sun rotates, spiralling around a pole, before shifting to the current over the other pole, and spiralling over that one. And then light, explained to travel in great curves, move to shift perception of where the Sun 'rises.'
Happy to follow with such statements, in-model, but it seems to do weird things with how much light the Sun emits. There are times where it would be further South than the South pole, and yet still gives off enough light to light the Northern hemisphere, with it still being night in some places.
Can anyone clarify the movement of light? Might just be me, but I can't see what rules would allow it to light the opposing hemisphere while still allowing night.

Quote from: rabinoz on November 15, 2016, 05:29:39 PM

Tom Bishop, who posts mainly on TFES.org supports the "Bipolar Map" more or less as presented in

SEA-EARTH GLOBE, And Its Monstrous Hypothetical Motions; OR Modern Theoretical Astronomy, by Zetetes.

But, be warned, you're in for a rough ride with all these "Monstrous Hypothetical Motions"
and some "interesting" ideas about astronomy.

So, by the look of it, the Sun rotates, spiralling around a pole, before shifting to the current over the other pole, and spiralling over that one. And then light, explained to travel in great curves, move to shift perception of where the Sun 'rises.'
Happy to follow with such statements, in-model, but it seems to do weird things with how much light the Sun emits. There are times where it would be further South than the South pole, and yet still gives off enough light to light the Northern hemisphere, with it still being night in some places.
Can anyone clarify the movement of light? Might just be me, but I can't see what rules would allow it to light the opposing hemisphere while still allowing night.

Shock, horror, Jane of all people has not done her homework!

Did you see the diagram on p 30 of Sea-Earth Globe and the "explanation" on pp 32,33?

And there you have it, it's so "shimple" - look what our kids are missing out at school!

Just learn
"but we must remember that there is a great difference between the motions of the solar orb, and the motions of light which proceed in every direction away from it."

and you did see the wondrous proof of "bendy light" in
"the curve of about 6,000 miles from E to A is so great, that for the last few miles the rays seem to come to A in a straight line in the direction from H. Hence he sees the sun’s image rise “due east,” not north-east, proving that light travels in great curves.

and
"when, having lost its further southern tendency or swirl, electrical and magnetic forces, doubtless under intelligent supervision, drive it again northwards."

Do you wonder that Tom Bishop of TFES.org isn't fazed by "bendy light"?

  Now make sure you learn all your bendy light theory by tomorrow, or there'll be "Trouble in River City, Trouble with a Capital T" - yes Brisbane is called the "River City". 

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64997.0

As for the bipolar map, I introduced the global Piri Reis map here for the first time, some eight years ago...

Just learn
"but we must remember that there is a great difference between the motions of the solar orb, and the motions of light which proceed in every direction away from it."

and you did see the wondrous proof of "bendy light" in
"the curve of about 6,000 miles from E to A is so great, that for the last few miles the rays seem to come to A in a straight line in the direction from H. Hence he sees the sun’s image rise “due east,” not north-east, proving that light travels in great curves.

and
"when, having lost its further southern tendency or swirl, electrical and magnetic forces, doubtless under intelligent supervision, drive it again northwards."

Do you wonder that Tom Bishop of TFES.org isn't fazed by "bendy light"?

  Now make sure you learn all your bendy light theory by tomorrow, or there'll be "Trouble in River City, Trouble with a Capital T" - yes Brisbane is called the "River City". 

I did read that, but my confusion is over the behaviour when the Sun's at L or R, or positions like that. Light travelling in great curves would still indicate that it would illumination most if not all of the hemisphere it's in, while leaving the far one dark.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64997.0

As for the bipolar map, I introduced the global Piri Reis map here for the first time, some eight years ago...

I have seen a few of your posts over the forum, but typically they take a lot more work than just one post to understand, and it can be tricky to find the particular answers that you're looking for. If, as it sounds, you have an approximate map and what seems to be a fair concrete path of the Sun, would it be possible to ask for an image of the map with the Sun's path quickly drawn on? I'm struggling to understand a lot of the diagrams in that thread.

Quote from: rabinoz on November 16, 2016, 06:13:30 PM

Just learn
"but we must remember that there is a great difference between the motions of the solar orb, and the motions of light which proceed in every direction away from it."

and you did see the wondrous proof of "bendy light" in
"the curve of about 6,000 miles from E to A is so great, that for the last few miles the rays seem to come to A in a straight line in the direction from H. Hence he sees the sun’s image rise “due east,” not north-east, proving that light travels in great curves.

and
"when, having lost its further southern tendency or swirl, electrical and magnetic forces, doubtless under intelligent supervision, drive it again northwards."

Do you wonder that Tom Bishop of TFES.org isn't fazed by "bendy light"?

  Now make sure you learn all your bendy light theory by tomorrow, or there'll be "Trouble in River City, Trouble with a Capital T" - yes Brisbane is called the "River City". 

I did read that, but my confusion is over the behaviour when the Sun's at L or R, or positions like that. Light travelling in great curves would still indicate that it would illumination most if not all of the hemisphere it's in, while leaving the far one dark.

Join the Confusion Inc. Club!

New Flat Earth motto: It you can't beat them, confuse the hell out of them.

I thought the flat earth motto was "The only thing we have to fear, is sphere itself"

I wish I could take credit for it but I can't.  Don't remember where I read that though.