Flat is not round

Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 16, 2016, 08:49:13 AM

Fluorine kills all the bad bacteria.

Fluoride kills a lot more than that,

Sadly, it doesn't work against trolls so it hasn't killed you yet.

Drinking fluoridated water saves you money by not requiring a trip to the dentist!
Also, we'll put it in your toothpaste, for the same reason!
Moreover, all restaurants will be using the same water to cook your meals! Further condensing your money saving!
No thanks necessary! Be sure to visit your dentist regularly for free toothpaste and water!

If you think it's a big deal, then go drink from a nearby river instead.

Long time ago there was some diagram showing inner energy ballance in different atoms nuclei.
Iron 56 is at the bottom of the curve, which means, over very long timespan elements lower than iron
will gain protons and neutrons, elements above iron will lose them.
Orbiting electrons will come and go with protons.

Tried to find by Google where I saw it.
Meanwhile, found this:

"In 10¹⁵⁰⁰ years, cold fusion occurring via quantum tunnelling should
make the light nuclei in ordinary matter fuse into iron-56 nuclei (see isotopes of iron).
Fission and alpha-particle emission should make heavy nuclei also decay to iron,
leaving stellar-mass objects as cold spheres of iron, called iron stars."

From: Future of an expanding universe.

The tunneling would happen if matter is in close proximity, which it won't be because of the expansion of the universe. So there 

Quote from: SpJunk on September 16, 2016, 05:22:27 AM

Long time ago there was some diagram showing inner energy ballance in different atoms nuclei.
Iron 56 is at the bottom of the curve, which means, over very long timespan elements lower than iron
will gain protons and neutrons, elements above iron will lose them.
Orbiting electrons will come and go with protons.

Tried to find by Google where I saw it.
Meanwhile, found this:

"In 10¹⁵⁰⁰ years, cold fusion occurring via quantum tunnelling should
make the light nuclei in ordinary matter fuse into iron-56 nuclei (see isotopes of iron).
Fission and alpha-particle emission should make heavy nuclei also decay to iron,
leaving stellar-mass objects as cold spheres of iron, called iron stars."

From: Future of an expanding universe.

The tunneling would happen if matter is in close proximity, which it won't be because of the expansion of the universe. So there 

Thanks.
Any local group of galaxies will be inaccessible from other local groups,
but within group itself all galaxies will collide, and groups will condense.
Just like "soon" collision between Milky Way and Andromeda.

There is a theory called "the big rip" that says the universe's expansion willncontinie to increase until in the far distant future, the observable universe shrinks until it becomes smaller than planks length. At that point, physics breaks.

There is a theory called "the big rip" that says the universe's expansion willncontinie to increase until in the far distant future, the observable universe shrinks until it becomes smaller than planks length. At that point, physics breaks.

That's mathematics (i.e. fiction).

I didn't present it as fact.

Also mathematics is fiction now? I guess it has to be, since someone with the knowledge of calculus can derive the formulas that model our understanding of physics.

I didn't present it as fact.

Also mathematics is fiction now? I guess it has to be, since someone with the knowledge of calculus can derive the formulas that model our understanding of physics.

You should see the guy that claims Pythagoras theorem is false because an approximation of "square a circle" problem leads to the "right" triangle for which the formula a^2+b^2=c^2 doesn't hold. So basically, someone drew a triangle that is not right and someone else concluded Pythagoras was wrong. Just one of many examples of how uneducated flat earthers are.

I didn't present it as fact.

Also mathematics is fiction now? I guess it has to be, since someone with the knowledge of calculus can derive the formulas that model our understanding of physics.

Reality is not mathematical. Mathematics is representation. And all form of representation is fictitious. Want to dispute that?

Name one thing in reality tthat cannot be modeled by mathematics.

Name one thing in reality tthat cannot be modeled by mathematics.

Surprise, surprise! there is such thing: a Flat-Earther's mind. It's modeled by voting and religion.

Name one thing in reality tthat cannot be modeled by mathematics.

A model can depict reality only by means of its assumptions towards it. That's why they're called "models". A model has to contain guidelines, a system of knowledge to be applied. It's therefore a conception of reality. Every model is just a map, not the way itself.
When you conceive something through a model, as Earth being a circle, you're going to understand the model first in order to make sense of the things you see outside the model.
Once the model has explained the phenomena you see in reality according to its guidelines, you may get dumbier than you were, because now you call your model of reality.

I refuse to model my thinking.

 

So you cannot.

Good to know.

Name one thing in reality tthat cannot be modeled by mathematics.

The concept of right and wrong.

Right=1

Wrong=0