Explain these pictures?

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Explain these pictures?
« on: August 26, 2016, 12:50:24 PM »
Here are two pictures of Mallorca taken from a beach at Cala'n Bosch, Menorca. About 45km distance between the two, but I don't know the exact location I was looking up.
One was taken standing on the beach, the second was taken standing on a lifeguard post about 2m high. Both are taken at x40 zoom.

How does the FET explain the increased height in the second.

Standing at sea level.

About 2m higher.


If you don't believe there is a height difference, download the images and check the height of the land in pixels.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2016, 02:08:32 PM by Empirical »

Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2016, 02:21:32 PM »
It would be very helpful if you could put a google map with the spot you were standing and the land you were looking at.
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johnnyorbital

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2016, 06:49:57 PM »
you should have also done the test correctly.. from GROUND level

its amazing how simple it is to prove there IS a curve

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2016, 06:58:57 PM »
Here comes the part when everyone screams "diffraction" at you. Wait for it! Waaaait for iiiit!

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2016, 09:19:43 PM »
Here are two pictures of Mallorca taken from a beach at Cala'n Bosch, Menorca. About 45km distance between the two, but I don't know the exact location I was looking up.
One was taken standing on the beach, the second was taken standing on a lifeguard post about 2m high. Both are taken at x40 zoom.

How does the FET explain the increased height in the second.

Standing at sea level.

About 2m higher.


If you don't believe there is a height difference, download the images and check the height of the land in pixels.



I will explain for you...

first watch this:



OK - its VERY SIMPLE:

- Things on a flat surface at a distance "LOSE THEIR BOTTOM"
- You can 'bring back their missing bottom' by either:

A) Physcially moving closer to the object in question OR:
B) Elevating yourself HIGHER from that object...

"How does the FET explain the increased height in the second."

THERE IS NOT AN INCREASED HEIGHT OF THE MOUTAIN in your photos!  Rather there is a 'dissapearance of the bottom'... then when the viewer moves HIGHER, the MISSING BOTTOM RE-EMERGES...

Again: 'the top of the moutain' didnt get taller, the bottom simply re-emerged

TRY the coin on the table experiment... move the coin away from you until the BOTTOM vanishes.. then either move the coin back towards you OR raise your eye-level HIHGER... either one will make the bottom of the coin/moutain re-emerge...


Your pictures actually PROVE that the earth *is* FLAT!


bee well..

-- hives




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markjo

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2016, 09:28:22 PM »
I will explain for you...

first watch this:
Did you notice that eye level is below the table surface in that video?
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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2016, 09:33:09 PM »

How about you have the camera above the surface, like a human eye would be.
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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2016, 09:46:36 PM »
Here are two pictures of Mallorca taken from a beach at Cala'n Bosch, Menorca. About 45km distance between the two, but I don't know the exact location I was looking up.
One was taken standing on the beach, the second was taken standing on a lifeguard post about 2m high. Both are taken at x40 zoom.

How does the FET explain the increased height in the second.

Standing at sea level.

About 2m higher.


If you don't believe there is a height difference, download the images and check the height of the land in pixels.



I will explain for you...

first watch this:



OK - its VERY SIMPLE:

- Things on a flat surface at a distance "LOSE THEIR BOTTOM"
- You can 'bring back their missing bottom' by either:

A) Physcially moving closer to the object in question OR:
B) Elevating yourself HIGHER from that object...

"How does the FET explain the increased height in the second."

THERE IS NOT AN INCREASED HEIGHT OF THE MOUTAIN in your photos!  Rather there is a 'dissapearance of the bottom'... then when the viewer moves HIGHER, the MISSING BOTTOM RE-EMERGES...

Again: 'the top of the moutain' didnt get taller, the bottom simply re-emerged

TRY the coin on the table experiment... move the coin away from you until the BOTTOM vanishes.. then either move the coin back towards you OR raise your eye-level HIHGER... either one will make the bottom of the coin/moutain re-emerge...


Your pictures actually PROVE that the earth *is* FLAT!


bee well..

-- hives

The Video is invalid, as the position of the camera is below the plane of the desk, if you were able to see the top of the desk the coin would never disappear, until you move the coin off the table and below the surface of the desk, and that is what you see at sunset.
The the universe has no obligation to makes sense to you.
The earth is a globe.

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2016, 01:02:20 AM »

I will explain for you...

first watch this:



OK - its VERY SIMPLE:

- Things on a flat surface at a distance "LOSE THEIR BOTTOM"
- You can 'bring back their missing bottom' by either:

A) Physcially moving closer to the object in question OR:
B) Elevating yourself HIGHER from that object...

"How does the FET explain the increased height in the second."

THERE IS NOT AN INCREASED HEIGHT OF THE MOUTAIN in your photos!  Rather there is a 'dissapearance of the bottom'... then when the viewer moves HIGHER, the MISSING BOTTOM RE-EMERGES...

Again: 'the top of the moutain' didnt get taller, the bottom simply re-emerged

TRY the coin on the table experiment... move the coin away from you until the BOTTOM vanishes.. then either move the coin back towards you OR raise your eye-level HIHGER... either one will make the bottom of the coin/moutain re-emerge...


Your pictures actually PROVE that the earth *is* FLAT!


bee well..

-- hives

This is how someone who believes the Earth is flat uses their reason and logic.

It explains a lot.

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2016, 01:27:28 AM »

I will explain for you...

first watch this:



OK - its VERY SIMPLE:

- Things on a flat surface at a distance "LOSE THEIR BOTTOM"
- You can 'bring back their missing bottom' by either:

A) Physcially moving closer to the object in question OR:
B) Elevating yourself HIGHER from that object...

"How does the FET explain the increased height in the second."

THERE IS NOT AN INCREASED HEIGHT OF THE MOUTAIN in your photos!  Rather there is a 'dissapearance of the bottom'... then when the viewer moves HIGHER, the MISSING BOTTOM RE-EMERGES...

Again: 'the top of the moutain' didnt get taller, the bottom simply re-emerged

TRY the coin on the table experiment... move the coin away from you until the BOTTOM vanishes.. then either move the coin back towards you OR raise your eye-level HIHGER... either one will make the bottom of the coin/moutain re-emerge...


Your pictures actually PROVE that the earth *is* FLAT!


bee well..

-- hives

This is how someone who believes the Earth is flat uses their reason and logic.

It explains a lot.

they redefine the terms logic, evidence and reasoning so that anything is possible... except truth.

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Omega

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2016, 09:27:10 AM »
Holy crap. That video proves we are al burried up to half of our eyes...

I am blown away. BLOWN. AWAY!
Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2016, 08:39:25 PM »
Here are two pictures of Mallorca taken from a beach at Cala'n Bosch, Menorca. About 45km distance between the two, but I don't know the exact location I was looking up.
One was taken standing on the beach, the second was taken standing on a lifeguard post about 2m high. Both are taken at x40 zoom.

How does the FET explain the increased height in the second.

Standing at sea level.

About 2m higher.


If you don't believe there is a height difference, download the images and check the height of the land in pixels.

I will explain for you...

first watch this:


OK - its VERY SIMPLE:

- Things on a flat surface at a distance "LOSE THEIR BOTTOM"
- You can 'bring back their missing bottom' by either:

A) Physcially moving closer to the object in question OR:
B) Elevating yourself HIGHER from that object...

"How does the FET explain the increased height in the second."

THERE IS NOT AN INCREASED HEIGHT OF THE MOUTAIN in your photos!  Rather there is a 'dissapearance of the bottom'... then when the viewer moves HIGHER, the MISSING BOTTOM RE-EMERGES...

Again: 'the top of the moutain' didnt get taller, the bottom simply re-emerged

TRY the coin on the table experiment... move the coin away from you until the BOTTOM vanishes.. then either move the coin back towards you OR raise your eye-level HIHGER... either one will make the bottom of the coin/moutain re-emerge...

Your pictures actually PROVE that the earth *is* FLAT!

bee well..

-- hives
Yes, I've seen that video long ago and it is simply deceptive! If you look carefully, it is obvious that the camera is positioned below the desktop.
Just look at these two images from the video:

Coin on desktop near edge
     

Coin on desktop near back
This is how it is done:

Coin Masked by Desktop

I do not know if that video presenter is trying to be deceptive or just trying to explain away the impossible, but on a Flat Earth there would be nothing to block the view of the sun, a ship or some islands.

Of course with the Flat Earth sun the problem is worse! It is supposedly always at 5,000 km above the earth.
There is no perspective or any other effect that could make that appear anywhere near the horizon.

So for that island to be partly hidden, and then more to appear from a higher site-line,
there must be something "in the way" and it cannot be the flat earth - flat is flat and cannot block the boat!

The only explanation that fits what we see is simply the curve of the earth, as sailors have known for centuries. Sort of like in my rough diagram:

Ship part hidden by curve. Left side on, middle from low view point with all the hull hidden and right from a higher view point with less hidden.

Sure, I know that if you take videos like this as evidence, you will  never be convinced, but some others might see what deception is being presented.

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2016, 10:17:10 PM »
I will explain for you...

first watch this:



OK - its VERY SIMPLE:

- Things on a flat surface at a distance "LOSE THEIR BOTTOM"
- You can 'bring back their missing bottom' by either:

A) Physcially moving closer to the object in question OR:
B) Elevating yourself HIGHER from that object...

"How does the FET explain the increased height in the second."

THERE IS NOT AN INCREASED HEIGHT OF THE MOUTAIN in your photos!  Rather there is a 'dissapearance of the bottom'... then when the viewer moves HIGHER, the MISSING BOTTOM RE-EMERGES...

Again: 'the top of the moutain' didnt get taller, the bottom simply re-emerged

TRY the coin on the table experiment... move the coin away from you until the BOTTOM vanishes.. then either move the coin back towards you OR raise your eye-level HIHGER... either one will make the bottom of the coin/moutain re-emerge...


Your pictures actually PROVE that the earth *is* FLAT!


bee well..

-- hives
If you want to explain something, firstly make sure you don't copy-paste invalid arguments/flawed arguments/clearly wrong arguments.

Secondly, make sure you learn something about the perspective.

Thirdly, repeat the experiment from the video when the camera is not below the table level and when the coin properly depics the reality, e.g. its altitude above the table vs maximum distance from the camera are scaled to the FE reality.

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Omega

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2016, 02:09:21 AM »
I just did the experiment with the coin. This is what the sun would look like if the Earth was flat. It NEVER TOUCHES THE HORIZON.

Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2016, 03:37:51 AM »
djhives, that video with coin hidden by the edge of the table was
already debunked in the comments of the very same video.

Poster even tried to say "sun does get smaller, search for youtube videos to get proof".

There is obvious reason why poster points to other youtube videos
INSTEAD OF REAL SUN OUTSIDE VIEWERS HOME.

I repeat: OBVIOUS REASON.

Do you honestly believe that video shows anything close to real situation outside?
« Last Edit: August 28, 2016, 03:41:29 AM by SpJunk »
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Empirical

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Re: Explain these pictures?
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2016, 01:11:16 PM »
djhives, that video with coin hidden by the edge of the table was
already debunked in the comments of the very same video.

Poster even tried to say "sun does get smaller, search for youtube videos to get proof".

There is obvious reason why poster points to other youtube videos
INSTEAD OF REAL SUN OUTSIDE VIEWERS HOME.

I repeat: OBVIOUS REASON.

Do you honestly believe that video shows anything close to real situation outside?
Yeah, you can't look at the sun in real life because it would damage your eyes.
(Note: That was a joke)