Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?

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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #180 on: September 01, 2016, 02:51:19 AM »
Damn, silicon, that must hurt!

Two times you tried to fake the facts so they fit in your view of the world, two times instant exposed as a liar.
You tried to "disprove" flat earth with an invalid argument - instant getting destroyed.

I start to feel sorry for you.

I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who tries to fake evidence to prove that scientists fake evidence.
Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

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« Reply #181 on: September 01, 2016, 03:06:02 AM »

Maybe this nonsense works for most people but according to your own globe earth model the below image should be impossible.



Really?  Do you ever think what you are saying?

On the Flat Earth the moon is supposedly always about 3,000 miles high, so there is no way the moon can ever appear near the horizon.

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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #182 on: September 01, 2016, 04:34:50 AM »
Silicon, this proves beyond reasonable doubt that you KNOW the Earth is Globe.

If you were sure that the Earth is Flat, you would look for real proof.

You wouldn't twist the fasts. You would think it is not necessary.

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If Moon was 3000 miles above Flat Earth ground,
should be 17 000 miles away to get at 10 degrees above horizon,
and be 35 000 miles away to be at 5 degrees above the horizon..
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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #183 on: September 01, 2016, 04:41:33 AM »
Why should the moon appear a pefect circle when your own roundly scientists agree it is not a perfect sphere?

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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #184 on: September 01, 2016, 04:48:04 AM »
Why should the moon appear a pefect circle when your own roundly scientists agree it is not a perfect sphere?

Something to do with the way the human brain works.    We overlook the way it appears to be a pefect circle and imagine it is a perfect circle.

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« Reply #185 on: September 01, 2016, 04:50:36 AM »
Why should the moon appear a pefect circle when your own roundly scientists agree it is not a perfect sphere?

Something to do with the way the human brain works.    We overlook the way it appears to be a pefect circle and imagine it is a perfect circle.

Then, why are all the roundies going on about the picture not being perfect?

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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #186 on: September 01, 2016, 04:52:37 AM »
It can actually not be "proven" that earth is spinning. All phenomena associated with the earth spin, Coriolis and centrifugal force included, can be explained otherwise, too. If you do not believe me, please google "Lense-Thirring-Effect"

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From wiki

"In general relativity, Lense–Thirring precession or the Lense–Thirring effect (named after Josef Lense and Hans Thirring) is a relativistic correction to the precession of a gyroscope near a large rotating mass such as the Earth."

So:

1.  What large rotating mass is near our gyroscopes?

2. If the Earth is a gyroscope near the Sun then it is spinning


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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #187 on: September 01, 2016, 04:53:29 AM »
Why should the moon appear a pefect circle when your own roundly scientists agree it is not a perfect sphere?
Bullshit.
It has been stated how much the difference in height and width would be. Read it again.

It has been proven that there were 2 times used fake "evidence" to prove a wrong point.
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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #188 on: September 01, 2016, 04:53:52 AM »
Why should the moon appear a pefect circle when your own roundly scientists agree it is not a perfect sphere?

Something to do with the way the human brain works.    We overlook the way it appears to be a pefect circle and imagine it is a perfect circle.

Then, why are all the roundies going on about the picture not being perfect?

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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #189 on: September 01, 2016, 04:56:32 AM »
Why should the moon appear a pefect circle when your own roundly scientists agree it is not a perfect sphere?
Bullshit.
It has been stated how much the difference in height and width would be. Read it again.

It has been proven that there were 2 times used fake "evidence" to prove a wrong point.


Photo enhancing = fake now?  Perhaps you should inform NASA?

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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #190 on: September 01, 2016, 05:06:32 AM »
Why should the moon appear a pefect circle when your own roundly scientists agree it is not a perfect sphere?
Bullshit.
It has been stated how much the difference in height and width would be. Read it again.

It has been proven that there were 2 times used fake "evidence" to prove a wrong point.


Photo enhancing = fake now?  Perhaps you should inform NASA?

Using photoshop to change a picture = not fake now?
Perhaps you should use your brain?
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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #191 on: September 01, 2016, 05:16:36 AM »
Did my best with MS Paint, but here is a circle on top.



As you can see, it is not a full moon. Also, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the dark side is facing towards the horizon, exactly as we would expect on a near-full moon during dusk.

I think your circle tool is broken....Again this is impossible on a globe earth.



If that is in fact a 188x188 pixel square then that is NOT a circle as it does not touch the top and bottom of the square while it does touch the sides.  That makes it an ellipse and NOT full.

That is interesting, but if you notice origamiscienceguy's circle doesn't follow the moon, and the circle does not fit in the square at all.  I don't think the moon is a perfect sphere.  Its a little squishier at the poles and a little chubbier along the mid section...oh wait, what am I saying??

It's a 99.8% full moon buddy.
his circle doesn't follow the moon because it IS NOT FULL.  Your "circle" does not fit the square because it is not a circle. 

The Moon has an equatorial radius of 1,738.1 km and a polar radius of 1,736.0 km so it is not a perfect sphere but not by enough to tell in a picture of this size or by the naked eye. 

You are still wrong and the moon in the pic is still not full (your own drawing proves it and origamiscienceguy's drawing proved it) and not 99.8% full either.  But thanks for proving the old adage that most statistics are made up on the spot.

Its fixed.  looks to me like its a 100% full moon. Where is your excuse now?

You've altered it somehow.  As already mentioned, I measured before and top to bottom was 182 pixels.  So the question now becomes why you feel the need to be deceptive, first by claiming an obvious non-circle is a circle and then by altering the image.  I zoomed in on this one and measured and while it is 187 top to bottom, it is 183 side to side.  You altered it and screwed up.  Just can't admit when you're wrong, can you?

I'm not being deceptive. 

I changed the square from 188x188 to 187x187 and made the line thinner.  I drew another circle holding shift as suggested by someone above. 

Anyone can download this picture and do the same thing and get the same result.  I know this, so everyone try it and you will see it works. 

100% full moon, 100% busted.
Again, the original was 182 pixels top to bottom and it was wider side to side.  In you supposed 187x187 it is now 183 side to side.  Not 100% full and never was.

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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #192 on: September 01, 2016, 05:20:44 AM »
Why should the moon appear a pefect circle when your own roundly scientists agree it is not a perfect sphere?
Bullshit.
It has been stated how much the difference in height and width would be. Read it again.

It has been proven that there were 2 times used fake "evidence" to prove a wrong point.


Photo enhancing = fake now?  Perhaps you should inform NASA?

Using photoshop to change a picture = not fake now?
Perhaps you should use your brain?

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #193 on: September 01, 2016, 05:25:26 AM »

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

NASA?

Picture was changed by Silicon.
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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #194 on: September 01, 2016, 05:25:33 AM »
Why should the moon appear a pefect circle when your own roundly scientists agree it is not a perfect sphere?
Bullshit.
It has been stated how much the difference in height and width would be. Read it again.

It has been proven that there were 2 times used fake "evidence" to prove a wrong point.


Photo enhancing = fake now?  Perhaps you should inform NASA?

Using photoshop to change a picture = not fake now?
Perhaps you should use your brain?

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

Enhancing =/= changing the moons size so that it appears round when it was not on the original image.
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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #195 on: September 01, 2016, 05:27:55 AM »

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

NASA?

Picture was changed by Silicon.


NASA never enhaces photos?

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« Reply #196 on: September 01, 2016, 05:29:26 AM »

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

NASA?

Picture was changed by Silicon.


NASA never enhaces photos?

Enhance =!= changing to prove an invalid point.
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« Reply #197 on: September 01, 2016, 05:33:44 AM »

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

NASA?

Picture was changed by Silicon.


NASA never enhaces photos?

Enhance =!= changing to prove an invalid point.

You mean, like when NASA stiches a bunch of pics into a circular shape and you people jump around proclaiming proof of a ball?

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« Reply #198 on: September 01, 2016, 05:34:16 AM »
Why should the moon appear a pefect circle when your own roundly scientists agree it is not a perfect sphere?

Just possibly because "the equatorial diameter of the Moon is 3,476.28 km" and "the polar diameter of the Moon is 3,471.94 km" or about 0.1% off spherical.

Are you really going to notice 1 part in 1,000 out of round?

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« Reply #199 on: September 01, 2016, 05:35:00 AM »

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

NASA?

Picture was changed by Silicon.


NASA never enhaces photos?

Enhance =!= changing to prove an invalid point.

You mean, like when NASA stiches a bunch of pics into a circular shape and you people jump around proclaiming proof of a ball?

Nasa does not use it as a proof for a round earth.
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« Reply #200 on: September 01, 2016, 05:38:36 AM »
Why should the moon appear a pefect circle when your own roundly scientists agree it is not a perfect sphere?

Just possibly because "the equatorial diameter of the Moon is 3,476.28 km" and "the polar diameter of the Moon is 3,471.94 km" or about 0.1% off spherical.

Are you really going to notice 1 part in 1,000 out of round?

That is my point, dummy.  Did you learn to read over the weekend? 

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« Reply #201 on: September 01, 2016, 05:41:02 AM »

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

NASA?

Picture was changed by Silicon.


NASA never enhaces photos?

Enhance =!= changing to prove an invalid point.

You mean, like when NASA stiches a bunch of pics into a circular shape and you people jump around proclaiming proof of a ball?

Nasa does not use it as a proof for a round earth.

They don't need to prove something that most people believe anyway.

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« Reply #202 on: September 01, 2016, 05:48:14 AM »

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

NASA?

Picture was changed by Silicon.


NASA never enhaces photos?

This is absurd.

Now you use the fact that one nutter changes the shape of the moon to prove that the earth is flat, as evidence that all pictures ever taken from the Earth are faked.

This is totally absurd. Even for FE this is absurd.
Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

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« Reply #203 on: September 01, 2016, 05:52:48 AM »

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

NASA?

Picture was changed by Silicon.


NASA never enhaces photos?

This is absurd.

Now you use the fact that one nutter changes the shape of the moon to prove that the earth is flat, as evidence that all pictures ever taken from the Earth are faked.

This is totally absurd. Even for FE this is absurd.


I never said it was evidence.  I simply questioned the double standard. 

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« Reply #204 on: September 01, 2016, 05:56:12 AM »
He is deperate.
He would like to force everyone to believe what Flatties say,
and disregard wat people see around in reality.

He would love to forbid people going to Moon again,
just to prevent any further proof that they were already there.

With so many ongoing projects by space agencies all around the world
space colonization is just a matter of time.

We could let flatties dream while they can, (if they wouldn't drag more naive, vulnerable kids into it).

It won't last long.
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« Reply #205 on: September 01, 2016, 06:09:51 AM »

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

NASA?

Picture was changed by Silicon.


NASA never enhaces photos?

This is absurd.

Now you use the fact that one nutter changes the shape of the moon to prove that the earth is flat, as evidence that all pictures ever taken from the Earth are faked.

This is totally absurd. Even for FE this is absurd.


I never said it was evidence.  I simply questioned the double standard.

HOW IS THIS A DOUBLE STANDARD?

Guy on FE forum fakes a picture. Unmasked within minutes.

One million pictures of the Earth, live satellite feeds, pictures taken from probes, space ships, the surface of the moon...

All that. Not a shred of evidence that ANY of it is faked.

But somehow this one little petty man on the FE forum with his bad MS pain skills just proves that all those real pictures should be considered fake?

ARE YOU INSANE?
« Last Edit: September 01, 2016, 06:14:17 AM by Omega »
Only thing round in FE is its circular logic.

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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #206 on: September 01, 2016, 06:27:02 AM »

frenat and origamiscience: I see no evidence of him stretching or otherwise altering the image, except for the outline he overlayed on top. Be careful about false accusations.



Omega, and others, at least one of your round earth counterparts has some dignity.  I would advise that you stop claiming that I faked anything and do some work on your own for a chance, and see for yourself.

I know it hurts when the globe model is wrong and you have to resort to these tactics, but they don't work forever.  In fact we're going to the next image.  What is your excuse for this full moon during the day? 


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« Reply #207 on: September 01, 2016, 06:30:33 AM »

So, we can all finally agree that NASA fakes their images?  This is a glorious day!

NASA?

Picture was changed by Silicon.


NASA never enhaces photos?

Enhance =!= changing to prove an invalid point.

You mean, like when NASA stiches a bunch of pics into a circular shape and you people jump around proclaiming proof of a ball?

Nasa does not use it as a proof for a round earth.

They don't need to prove something that most people believe anyway.

Then why would you blame people for using it as a prove if it doesn't need to be proven in the first place?
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Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #208 on: September 01, 2016, 06:44:12 AM »
I know it hurts when the globe model is wrong and you have to resort to these tactics, but they don't work forever.  In fact we're going to the next image.  What is your excuse for this full moon during the day? 
Its not wrong and why do you post here pictures of almost full moon, not full full moon? Do you have problems with your eyes?
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

Re: Does ANYONE have ANY evidence that we live on a spinning ball?
« Reply #209 on: September 01, 2016, 07:32:37 AM »
As you can see, the sun is clearly setting, or has already set in that picture (the red reflection on the waves) And the moon is right on the horizon. I see nothing wrong, this is what should happen.
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